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You can see all the connected devices at my.zerotier.com . If you want to see everything on the network from an app, you could use a network scanner like https://www.fing.com/products/fing-app
The app is intended to connect you to the network, not allow you to control the network. Similar to how connecting to WiFi is not the same as setting up a router.
Router SHOULD aggregate and allow devices to see each other through the router!!!...should be part of the "Plug-N-Play" protocol!!!! Either there is some network isolation going on, could be a subnet issue OR a piss poor implementation of integrating 2.4 & 5 ghz in the same box. Also make sure you're not using guest wi-fi as that blocks off & isolates a whole Lotta stuff!!! Get the "Fing Network app" to scan your network and see what devices are visible.
Can you blame them? I sure as hell don't.
Infrastructure-setup (as in, connected to the home router), and provided you set their IP static on the network, they're just fine.
Reaching that setup is beyond the scope of the vast, vast majority of people. I get a couple every day, and it's always me remoting into their computer, figuring out the login to their router (because they never know it), having them push the WPS button on the printer and triggering it on the router, then instantly setting it static. They don't break after that - but holy shit. Gran-gran can't do that. Your idiot uncle can't. It's entirely magic to these people.
There's better ways; a good router could Fing that it's a printer easily, and static it instantly, that would help. Routers could be made to simply not honor WPS-set requests, or setup a really shitty sub-network just for the printer and knit it in if they're WPSed and Finged.
There's lots of ways I can see to help solve the problem, but they all involve 'smarter' routers that automate it... because printer manufacturers are all horrible, and just the way WiFi networking 'works' is without intelligence.
Fing box can do that. I have got one for 2-3 years now. In the beginning I thought it was fun to get a notification when my neighbor got home from job or stuff like that. It got a function called Fence that might help you.
agreed. I really like having reservations for all my devices. I group them in blocks of IP by type and then create alias groups to redirect dns traffic or block outbound traffic. pfsense is really flexible and free if you have the spare hardware. I've been using a sg-3100 for a few years. it's been pretty stable overall and I can host my own vpn for when I'm away from home. You can get really tricky with inbound services sharing the same IP/port with HAProxy too.
pfblockerng is pretty good at blocking ads/malicious sites. can also do overrides to do things like block the orbi firmware update. ;)
another thing I like having on my network is a fingbox. It alerts me to specific people coming and going (even if they are not on your network), internet outages, speed issues, etc. I think it's worth the $99 for an easy mobile network monitor. https://www.fing.com/products/fingbox
If you are concerned your neighbors might be on your Wi-Fi, grab the Fing app for your phone and run a scan when the problem is happening to see if there are any devices on your network that you don't recognize.
If you know the MAC address you can try looking it up using a tool like this one. Usually it can give an idea of the manufacturer. I've done this myself only to realize that I forgot about some smart device on my network that was wasn't accounting for.
If the router has any logging function then turn it on if it hasn't already been. Another option to analyze your network is a tool like Fing.
Personally I have a PiHole that I use for DNS that I force my router to use. It allows me to see what domains are being requested by which devices (along with blocking capabilities).
Hey, I don't know if you are still trying to do this but I was just able to set up my nest hub in my dorm room by finding the MAC address. Here's what you need:
Google home device (obviously)
Computer (windows or mac)
Phone that supports mobile hotspot
You'll also need to download Fing for the computer.
STEPS
- Start your phones mobile hotspot. Take note of the network name and password
- on the same phone OR a different phone, begin setup on the Google home app.
- Fully perform setup connecting the Google home device to the hotspot.
- On your computer, download and install Fing Desktop .
- On the computer with Fing, connect to the same hotspot as the Google home device.
- Open Fing on the computer and open the "Devices" tab. Fing should scan the network and show all connected devices.
- Since the Google home device and the computer are on the same network, the Google home device should show up on Fing.
- On Fing, click on the Google home device. The MAC address should show.
- Go to whichever online portal you need to use to register a device and register the Google home device using its MAC address.
- Re-do setup of the Google home device and when prompted to select a WiFi network, select the network you have registered the device with.
If everything goes right the Nest hub or whatever you're setting up will connect to the network without you needing to enter any information in.
Fing has public APIs, in the documentation they said that it "[...] relies on TCP/IP network layer, i.e. ICMP (ping) and TCP queries." Source
I'll check Wireshark for sure, thanks for the suggestion.
Time to take back some control in your life. Get a good quality lock for your room that only you have the key to. One way to find hidden cameras is to turn off the lights in your room and use your phone flashlight to scan the room; most camera lenses, even tiny ones, reflect light. Get a network scanning app to find all the devices on your home network (I've heard of using Fing App before). Start taking self-defense classes. Work towards moving out as soon as you are feasible able to.
YES... I have gigabit FIOS, firewalla gold and a TP-Link Omada controller with 3 TP-Link Omada APs. I have been troubleshooting this for months. I thought it was just my Wifi but after some recently found information I'm now actually thinking it's my entire network -- including wired. For whatever reason we just don't really see problems on our wired computers when it happens.
The recent found info is I have been using the Fing Desktop app and have found that it is routinely seeing that "DHCP is not healthy" alerts. The fing desktop app is actually really handy. It just runs in the background and occasionally does health checks on your network (has about 26 tests that it runs: checks if DNS is working, tests if DHCP is working, checks if your ethernet/wireless adapter is running.. all sorts of stuff). If you haven't tried that yet I'd be curious if you get the same errors. Set it up and just let it run in the background (it minimizes to the traybar). After a few days, pull the app up and look at the notifications section. In my case it's peppered with alerts saying that "DHCP isn't healthy" and then "network connectivity looks great".
I have tried everything I can think of: replaced cables, turned on/off DoH, done multiple reboots of my wireless controller/tried changing all sorts of settings on the controller, tried segmenting wireless to it's own VLAN (I thought it was only regulated to wireless until recently)... I'm kind of out of ideas. I was planning to wait until the Fing desktop app catches when it has problems again and try running some tests. Aside from that I plan on opening a ticket to the firewalla guys and see if they are able to see anything -- again, haven't done that yet due to thinking that it was a wireless problem.
Make sure you install Malwarebytes on both devices. And in order to monitor your WiFi I suggest you use this app and program on both devices as well called fing
Look at it the other way round - get the PC to say “I’m here” at whatever interval suits you and have the “listener” tell you when it gets no message. You could even make that work both ways so that if the “listener” fails you are told that too! If you are into a little programming this is not hard using something called MQTT for the send/listen part (exactly what it is designed to do!) and then trigger an IFTTT webhook to alert you.
Or... you could just buy a Fingbox- it does that and much more!
Try this in the terminal: curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -X POST -d '{"appName": "homebridge", "appSecret":"MDAwMTExMDAwMTExMDAwMTExMDAwMTExMDAwMTExMDA=", "instanceName": "homebridge"}' https://<SYNC-BOX-IP>/api/v1/registrations
Obviously replace <SYNC-BOX-IP>with your sync box’s IP address (I used Fing to find it).
I would take a look at fing
Their free desktop app monitors internet performance. Fing Desktop | Network toolkit and scanner | Fing
Alternatively you could go for their more full featured Fing Box hardware device. Fingbox | Fing
Both work independently -- the desktop app and hardware box work separately and perform similar but slightly different functions. I have both. Both work great.
I live in Cascade Estates, East of the Healthplex. My connection is billed as a 150 Mbps Down / 10 Mbps Up.
I have a Fingbox connected to my router, which monitors my speed (6 times a day), device connections, and down time. This week, I've averaged 165.5 Mbps Down and 10.6 Mbps Up with no down time. Highest has been 175.2 / 11.6.
Make sure that first your WIFI connection is secure and that you have changed your routers password from default to unique. Most routers can be accessed by entering the routers IP address into a search engine, then you will be presented with a login screen, simply google your routers factory default password and you're in! From here you can change the password so no one else can access it. You can also block devices (mac ban, use fing for this) from using the internet and restrict websites on your home network.
If both of the Ethernet LEDs are on (esp with the other one blinking) it should work.
Maybe scan the local network with Fing (https://www.fing.com/products/fing-desktop) or nmap (https://nmap.org/book/inst-windows.html)? Although the router DHCP client list should have it displayed too.
Do you have the NAS plugged directly into the router?
Are the network activity lights on / blinking at either end?
Have you tried a different network cable?
If the NAS has two network ports, have you tried both?
Do you have a device scanner you can run to identify all devices on your network? I use Advanced IP Scanner, which is for PC, or Fing on my iPad (it’s also available for Android). Presumably there’s a Mac equivalent too, if that’s what you’re using.
Hey OP, check out the Fing App. It's free to use, and will quickly see all of your home network devices. You can also buy a Fingbox, think it's around $100, but actively scans and can block devices around the home. It actually can find non-network devices as well... so for any snooping, this is a really big thing.
Fing is a network discovery tool. It started as a CLI tool but evolved into an app that anyone can use. It is simple and very useful for finding all the devices attached to your network (wifi or wired).
I would try using the application Fing to do a scan of your network connection. It will show you your connection strength, details about your connection as well as provide tips and information regarding any issues it may detect.
It can be downloaded for free from their website here: https://www.fing.com/products/fing-desktop
Maybe you have a physical device connected to your network via cable that someone placed and you haven't noticed? check all ips for unknown devices. Try an IP Scanner that can ID connected devices.
Such as Fing for mobile or desktop:
Although I use DDWRT on my router, I use a device called Fing at home (https://www.fing.com/) which has this functionality, you may want to check it out, I think it's very useful for this and other stuff.
Checkout Fingbox does most everything you’re looking for, and then some. Still waiting on HA integration though. It’s also a physical appliance, which I tend to like, as opposed to a container.
If you want local network scans the best is to do from laptop/PC.
There is a number of tools and command line utilities like e.g. nmap, which can provide you port scan result within seconds.
It's coming as well in Fing soon: https://www.fing.com/fing-desktop-beta-pc-mac
You need some device other than the computer you are concerned with to monitor it in some way and use the result to trigger an IFTTT action.
A simple way of doing this (at a cost) would be to acquire a Fingbox which integrates with IFTTT
https://www.fing.com/products/fingbox
this is how I monitor a range of devices and receive alerts.
Or, you could use some inexpensive device, such as a RaspberryPi, and some suitable programming, to achieve a similar result.
The USG router is my firewall. The fingbox is a glorified network monitor, arp spoofer, and iftt plug-in all rolled into one box.
https://www.fing.com/products/fingbox
I can group my kids devices and arp spoof him off the net with a single click. It also tracks who’s on the home network, so I can tie in iftt logic to turn the connected lights on when someone comes home at night, turn down the ac/heat when no one is home, etc.
As for securing it, right now I’d just locate it high in the box, physically he can’t reach it :)