> Thank you for the info. It doesn’t seem to be available through iTunes, or any other online service I can think of.
apparently that link doesn't work in the US... soo... usenet:
Newshosting -should- have it.
No both of them don't its been quite sometime though.
Abavia themselves have only a month or so local retention after that they pull from Newshosting/HW Media upto 1250 days.
UsenetExpress has local retention of about 100-300 days and after they also pull from Newshosting/HW Media upto 1100 days.
Farm doesn't backfill from anyone anymore they are completely tier 1 backbone now like Vipernews and Altopia.
Let’s not forget that newsgroup ninja is a shadow company owned by omicron. There was the issue a while back about how ninja was dishonest about their ownership and even a situation where the mods had to remove a lot of the shill posts from some of the ninja related subjects. Everyone here can do better than to support a dishonest provider. WHO KNOWS what else they will be dishonest about?
If Omicron wants to offer $3 usenet, they should just offer it at Newshosting or usenetserver and be done with it.
Thundernews is a Newshosting reseller and not an Eweka reseller so they follow DMCA via Newshosting and Eweka only follows NTD for its direct retail customers.
Resellers buy bandwidth in bulk from backbones like Newshosting so they can give more discount but the cons are they have soft caps on data or speed to counter abuse.
When you buy directly from Eweka you get the advantage of NTD which is alot slower and manual than DMCA though the con is speed is limited to 300mbps and when you buy directly from Newshosting
you get direct support from backbone itself and there is no speed or data cap but you pay a higher cost for it than buying from resellers like Thundernews.
Reminder: Let’s not forget that newsgroup ninja is a shadow company owned by omicron. There was the issue a while back about how ninja was dishonest about their ownership and even a situation where the mods had to remove a lot of the shill posts from some of the ninja related subjects. Everyone here can do better than to support a dishonest provider. WHO KNOWS what else they will be dishonest about?
If Omicron wants to offer $2 usenet, they should just offer it at Newshosting or usenetserver and be done with it. Anyone paying full price at Newshosting or Usenetserver should feel dumb.
My own thoughts, fwiw:
Ditch Newshosting, switch to Ninja or NGD (same backbone, half the price). Grab a Farm block and lose Astraweb. Those two will get you pretty much anything and everything in my experience. Pare down the indexes to Geek (lifetime sub?) and Dog, using a free DrunkenSlug account as backup for five hits a day. If needed you could even drop dog and rely on a (cheaper) Slug account.
You'll save a decent percentage on your current spend and not lose much if anything by way of end results.
In addition to what u/pelap said:
Retention for the big players is over 3,000 days (nearing 4,000 days for Newshosting). That means your stuff is available to the public for over 10 years and it gets worse if you re-upload everything every 3 years. Do you feel comfortable having your personal files publicly available for that long period with no means to delete it? Today's strong encryption might be crackable in a heartbeat in 10 years. I wouldn't want to take this chance.
Yes, I have Google Fiber.
I haven't tried Giganews or Astraweb yet but with Newshosting I'm averaging about 24MB/s or 192Mb/s. (The limit is disk speed on this server. So I did some testing on a computer with an SSD below.)
Newhosting screenshot at 55MB/s (52MB/s Average):
Second Try 68MB/s (68MB/s Average):
*Edited for clarity and second speed test.
Tweakews is entirely different backbone as opposed to newshosting snd eweka.
As for Eweka NGD also have access to same servers but Eweka follows NTD and also doesn't have access US server whereas NGD resells Newshosting which follows DMCA.
Labour Day deals:
Newshosting US$4,17/mo: ?promo=workersday&rate=163
EDIT: Thanks to /u/Max_Xevious for the links being switched. Fixed.
> Any idea of which country it would be for sale in? I can't imagine it not being for sale in the US, but available elsewhere. Although maybe The Soup was popular in Japan? or Korea? who knows.
fine, now I'm on a mission, give me about 30 minutes ;)
edit: ugh, it's so damn old even usenet is giving me shit air date is 05/29/2009 episode 619 (season 6 episode 21)
edit: found.. but can't find a server with it on it...
Newshosting -should- have it.. but I'm not putting my CC info in there, because I'll forget to cancel it.
In case anyone is wondering how some people can go over a TB a month, it's easy. Get a Newshosting usenet account, it comes with a VPN that you can use for torrents. Add a wife that won't stop watching youtube on her Ipad and a grandaughter that watches Rick and Morty 24/7 on her ipad and BOOM, you have maxed out by the 15th of the month.
You have made it confusing by separating Ninja and Newshosting with other resellers these should be all clubbed
Newshosting,ninja,Newsdemon,Thundernews,thecubenet,blocknews(add their deal too ),Fastusenet(though specifically mention they don't have access to NL server).
Also separate Tweaknews with other XLned resellers as you have done with Eweka and FYI Tweaknews current retention has been increased to 3200 days.
Another correction to be made on UE retention as their local retention is 1 year.
Seriously, it's crap. If you insist on using a Win32 program to browse USENET: get NewsbinPro and subscribe to their search service. They have a 15 day trial, check it out.
Highwinds primary (Newshosting, NewsDemon, Thundernews, Frugal, etc) with blocks from Tweaknews, UsenetExpress and . Check the [promos wiki](/r/usenet/wiki/providerdeals) for best current deals.
Get the milk from the cow. Astraweb, Easynews, Eweka, Giganews, Newshosting, Supernews, TweakNews, UsenetServer or XS News are all providers that are owned by the backbone supplier and sell direct to the consumer. This is the most reliable path to truly unlimited usenet access. To my recollection none of the above listed services has ever had a "false unlimited" complaint levied against them.
Resellers are great for blocks and average downloaders but if you consume TB's of bandwidth monthly then you shouldn't be with a reseller.
You take the file you want to post and shove it into winrar/7zip. You set it to split to 15mb sizes. Winrar does its thing and then you post the parts using Powerpost (you can also run it through a Par2 program for some parity files).
Powerpost generates an nzb (or you can get it from a search engine) and you use that later to download it.
Now, retention. The big boys of the Usenet firms are always adding more and more retention and don't appear to be stopping. So, theoretically, your data should be safe and sound on Usenet as long as the retention keeps increasing.
With Usenet providers coming under safe harbour regulations, they will probably be around a lot longer than your average cyberlocker/cloud service. They also have the added advantage of being transferrable. So, if say you were with Newshosting and they went bankrupt, then you could just join another Usenet provider that offered similar retention and have access to your data again.
its an obfuscated post.... it's nothing out of the ordinary. If you have automatic renaming and sorting turned on your stuff will be renamed and put in the correct location via dnzb header information that came along with the nzb when you downloaded, or through meta-tag information that is in the *.nzb itself. if Newshosting 2.1.1 isn't meeting your expectations, use sab or nzbget
This is legit.
It's the old owner of Newshosting
Only complaint is the pricing, he could be a little more competitive and it would definitely help him more long term. He needs customers to join at the beginning to break even and sustain growth.
If you're listening:
From what I have learned:
If you want "true" Eweka, ONLY option is buying directly from Eweka (and with true Eweka, I mean NTD policy instead of DMCA).
So to answer your question: No, Thundernews wouldn't make sense. Thundernews=DMCA (Newsdemon=DMCA). So basically exact same Newshosting providers/services following same DMCA policy.
First of all peep here have been spoiled by Newshosting resellers low prices so they will be comparing your service to them but even by comparing to or newsxs all your services are too expensive also this 1200 days retention is misinformation when XSnews itself has only 1100 days.
The easiest thing to do would be to switch Astraweb to a block, which won't save you any money today, but will start saving you money in like 6 months.
If you only ever download new content, then you could switch Newshosting to an annual Frugal account for $50.
If you sometimes download old content then you could still switch to Frugal and then just augment your Highwinds backend with another block account from someone else.
newsgroupdirect and newshosting are all highwiinds. In addition Blocknews has its DMCA managed by Highwinds so in effect 3 of your providers are the same server farm. I am assuming that your NGD account is a block so you might want to keep that and cancel Newshosting as your primary.
If from the US look to Supernews as a primary feed. Its the same network as Giganews but you can get an unlimited account for $9.99 a month. Tweaknews works good as a block or primary and is Dutch but your speeds my vary depending on your network and location.
After years of using multiple accounts I find I no longer need a supplemental block account along with Newshosting or Newsdemon. And this is with Sickbeard and Couch Potato, which are considered past their prime.
For some time I have found NzbGeek to catch every thing I want so I let my Dog subscription lapse. For shows on networks with efficient take down procedures I sometimes need to browse Dog manually but even then a Highwinds provider still has what I'm looking for.
I have developed a taste for foreign language tv shows. Sickbeard often cannot capture these. So I have returned to searching torrents manually, which usually works. Currently I find a bundled VPN service to be more useful than a supplemental block account.
I'm actually spending less on Usenet these days but downloading more. :)
No. is a Tier 1 provider for the first 30 days which actually helps greatly with new releases, after that it is mainly a XS News reseller (which also includes that first month of retention). They also pull articles from Highwinds but that part isn't that good, misses many after 1500 days or so but goes back for 3000 days.
is the cheapest XS News (as far as I know) block provider, and considering they also offer 30 days of retention from their own servers it is the best block to use with Highwinds, Astraweb and Giganews. That they offer both Highwinds and XS News for very cheap is especially important for the last two main account options. At least this is what I think. I am very happy with Newshosting + and Astraweb blocks.
You are overpaying with Giganews and Easynews replace Giganews with Supernews() same backbone as Giganews and Easynews with Newshosting() same US and NL servers but they give access to DE server too and it really helps in terms of speed and get on Tweaknews and (resell Abavia/XSnews after their own retention of about 2 months) both have NL only servers and you are set.
Omicron is just the parent company they don't enforce rules for takedowns its enforced by the backbone themselves currently Omicron operates three backbones Newshosting, Eweka and Tweaknews and every one of them is different with each other in every aspect.
Altopia can be a good alt if they can increase the retention to atleast 30 days and offer a more cost effective rates.
As for Newsguy they don't even offer tls1.2 and their cert is self signed also they are too costly and most probably are hybrid backfilling from Newshosting they don't even have their own network they use Highwinds/Stackpath transit network and even than offer only 1300 days retention.
As for Elbracht they seem to be focused only on their own ISP customers or other German customers as they also have a self signed cert and they are too costly for blocks which are not even non expiry apart even premium-news silver acc cost is 12.78 euro not really cost friendly at all.
Newshosting is a good service but $89.99 a year is only a good price compared to their regular overpriced service fee. The same service can be had from resellers for less than half that price. Newsgroup Ninja is $39.99 a year for example.
Check out the wiki page for direct links.
Most people use Sanbzbd because it works well with CouchPotato, SickBeard and Headphones. I use Newshosting as my primary and that comes with its own client, which I prefer as I don't need automation.
Astraweb's US and EU domains point directly to netblocks for Newshosting and Eweka.
The Astraweb IP are surrounded by IP for other Omicron (Highwinds) owned businesses and resellers that have unique domains resolving to the same Newshosting and Eweka CIDR ranges.
You are downloading from
--> Newshosting platform (US)
--> Eweka platform (NL)
Searchtech's Astraweb service is no longer unique.
Whether or not Searchtech Limited sold Astraweb is an unknown at this point.
If I had to guess, Searchtech's long standing payment processing and network problems became too large. They were forced to sell (not seeing indicators yet) or maintain their business, keep customers, shed their infrastructure, resell Omicron services (newshosting, eweka), and let Omicron handle payment processing.
See the map r/usenet/wiki/providers/ also FYI Omicron doesn't follow same DMCA and NTD for all backbones HW Media/Newshosting DMCA is different from Base IP/XLned DMCA and Eweka NTD is different from Base IP/Tweaknews NTD.
Yes, unlimited is unlimited without any asterisks. Some back-end servers need a specific amount as a limit which normally people don't reach(2tb is nothing), but even if you do they reset it if you ask them too.
I have to ask though, Why Newshosting? Why not say NewsGroupDirect/NewsDemon or ThunderNews or something? NewsDemon and NewsGroupDirect are resellers of NewsHosting and are considerably cheaper. (check out provider deals in the wiki).
Change from Astraweb to Supernews though retention around only 1800 days or less.
Also get an unlimited on Highwinds/Newshosting or one of its resellers if you want retention instead of blocknews.
Me and Newshosting go back 8 years now. In that time we've had some ups and downs, but generally she's been a fine boat to sail on. Occasionally, the pesky landlubbers put holes in her sides and she leaks a bit, but not as much as people think.
You should go with Eweka(NL and DE servers and follows NTD) instead of Newsdemon(Newshosting reseller with US and same NL and DE servers as Eweka but Newshosting follows DMCA) and Tweaknews(NL servers and follows NTD) instead of Usenetbucket(XLned reseller same backbone as Tweak but XLned follows US DMCA).
Newsdemon is Highwinds/Newshosting reseller and have access to their US,NL and DE servers with around 3388+ days retention is a hybrid provider having their own retention of around 1-2 months after which they use Abavia for around 1110 days retention and have NL only servers.
Try both Nzbplanet and Nzbfinder both are excellent also see you are not overpaying for Supernews
Also get a block on blocknews(resells Newshosting) and Usenetexpress(own 90 days retention and than resells XSnews).
Not really, especially considering an indexer like NZBGeek is only around $6 for 6 months...
Some of the other indexers may be $10-$20 but they are that price for usually the entire year.
I have used what you consider all-in-one solutions provided both by Newshosting and Giganews. And I still ended up opting for using separate indexers coupled with Sonarr/Radarr and SABnzbd. NZBGeek is such a nicer looking way to search for content (when doing it manually) than looking at the included Browser offered by Newshosting or Giganews.
> Would UsenetExpress block account be a good choice to use as a back up to Newshosting?
Sure, different backbones so I feel it would be a good choice.
>Do you allow account sharing for block accounts?
>and lastly does the block account expire?
Giganews provides good service. They are kind of expensive but if you are looking for Usenet with VPN and online storage they aren't too bad of a deal. They are probably the most dependable provider out there. I've had several provider before ranging from Astraweb, UsenetServer, and Newshosting. They all provided good service. I'm currently with Fast Usenet a try.
Same Highwinds servers offered by Newshosting and Usenetserver but for $5.99/mo
news-us.newsgroup.ninja >> Newshosting platform in Ashburn. Virigina US
news-nl.newsgroup.ninja >> Eweka platform in Amsterdam, NL
news-de.newsgroup.ninja >> Highwinds platform (possibly a small cache) in Frankfurt, DE
Additionally, newsgroup.ninja permits connections (50) which should help to maximize your line.
Use the least amount possible as required. This discussion might also offer some insight on regional platforms.
Teranews, Bubbanews, and Yottanews were resellers of Nibble Information Systems ().
Nibble Information systems officially dissolved in 2009, but may have shutdown their nntp system as far back as 2004-2005. At that time Newshosting, Easynews, and Usenetserver (using Highwinds software) began to outpace nibble's 7 day binaries retention.
When Nibble shutdown the nntp backend and when their resellers switched to Highwinds, I really don't know.
> Q: How many groups does your server have?
> A: Our server currently has about 60,0000 groups. We will add any newsgroup that are requested.
> Q: What is the retention times for articles on your server?
> A: It depends on the group: text groups about 30 days, picture groups about 15 days, mp3 groups about 10 days, large movie groups about 7 days.
With Astraweb's change this month they are basically a duplication of your Blocknews account (Although I think Blocknews may provide access to Newshosting's DE server and Astraweb may not)
Since you're using all blocks I'd base this somewhat on which is cheapest to replace. I obviously don't have any way of knowing what deals you've gotten, but just based on "retail" pricing from each provider I'd probably order it something like:
That said I'd review your current lineup when your existing blocks are used, as your setup now has some overlap in providers and probably isn't ideal.
The Newshosting BF deal is also not exclusive to BF, its available year round at Its also $5 more than the same deal from UsenetServer available at
Yours seems awfully expensive.
An NZBPlanet or NZBGeek (Indexers) subscription is like $10/year (I went ahead and just bought lifetime memberships to both since they're so cheap).
A quick Google search for "Newshosting discount" (Usenet provider) and you'll be able to find a $99/year subscription that includes VPN.
in, that's $109/year, half (or less) than what you're paying. Any idea where the difference / delta is?
I'm kind of amazed that people with Newshosting/Newsdemon are always asking about backup accounts. After many years of using blocks from providers like Tweak I stopped a couple of years ago and there is almost nothing I can't get. It's true that Sonarr and Radarr have to go through most of my several indexers to find some shows that haven't been taken down but they always get them eventually. Maybe once in a while I have to settle for 720p instead of 1080p. Very rarely I have to use Hydra to find a file that is actually obfuscated but not titled as such; in that case I have to manually click the link and check the file names. If I'm more willing to be patient Sonarr will do the same work for me.
So I can't imagine getting any more than I get now with another provider in Europe. And I have hundred of shows going back as far as Newsdemon's retention allows.
Astraweb isn't a backbone anymore they resell HW Media/Newshosting as for Eweka there is distinction between Newshosting/HW Media(and its resellers) and Eweka first being Eweka doesn't have access to US server and another being Newshosting/HW Media follows DMCA across all three servers whereas Eweka follows NTD so you will find articles on Eweka which have been DMCAed from Newshosting/HW Media.
Any of the omicron resellers would be good and fast. Most of the time the resellers are cheaper than Newshosting or usenetserver is and there is no difference at all. Check out newsdemon or newsgroudirect if you want full retention. I think you can get newsgroupdirect for $40USD/year? Check out Frugal if you want around 1000 days.
Keep in mind Eweka is limited to only 300mbps and only NL and DE servers there is no US server but the pro is NTD takedown whereas Newshosting is not speed limited and does have access to Ewekas NL and DE servers but the con is DMCA takedown as Eweka only follows NTD for its own direct customers making Eweka having different completion rate than Newshosting.
Newshosting is a Highwinds reseller (along with about 50% of all usenet hosts). They're going to be a big target for DMCA. Use the link on the right, under "Interesting Links", to make your choices.
Eweka is highwinds but they kinda follow NTD whereas Newshosting which Newsdemon uses follows DMCA so yeah there is difference but you don't need ND if you live in EU also you don't need Usenetexpress if you are using Farm as UE servers are in US also both UE and Farm backfill from XSnews.
Useless critics like on Amazon
Newshosting or NewsGroupDirect? Both are great seller in my opinion and never had any issues. Especially NGD they've a great support whenever I had a request for them, like to add a group.
Your post is a bit vague. Newshosting is a usenet provider, if you're confused about that see the wiki particularly the FAQ and Providers pages
You can't crash an entire provider just b/c you are downloading.. I think maybe you're referring to the "Newshosting Usenet Browser" that they provide? You'll want to contact Newshosting for support on that.
Most people in this sub use SABnzbd or NZBGet to download binaries from usenet. See the menu at the top of /r/usenet, the Software listing there should give you an idea of what is commonly used. (or see the FAQ in the wiki)
Newshosting, i am maxing my 1Gbps/1Gbps Internet with 30 connections with a 7y/o computer.
I guess most popular provider should allow every user to get max speed. Seems something is wrong with your config / server adress, nothing to do with the provider.
Used to have 45-60 MB/s with SABnzbd but now with NZBGet (default setting) i max my Fiber line.
>Why don't the newsgroup providers have an indexing function?
Some do, well they have a client that can do searches. Newshosting and Giganews off the top of my head. The Newshosting one is rather good too.
Newshosting throws in a free copy of Newsbin Pro with the Internet search feature turned on for free. It's not quite as good as your average indexer for finding stuff, but it's not bad. Newsbin Pro's watchlist feature isn't as good as using Radarr and Sonarr, but it's OK too. If you don't want to set up automation, it's a cheap solution to using paid indexers.
ATM highwinds has basically 4 backends
Base IP bv used by sunny,tweak etc
Hwng used by frugal etc
Newshosting used by usenetserver etc
Eweka bv used by eweka
Choose ur poison but I will suggest you to instead buy a flat acc on frugal/uns and block from astra and xsnews/cheapness or newsoo.
Takedown on Easynews NNTP platform is same as Newsgroup.ninja as both resell Newshosting/HW Media only difference would be Easynews web platform might be using separate takedown also both have same retention so I don't think you gained anything in terms of article completion other than cost cutting.
Go for Newshosting/blocknews/newsgroup.ninja(they will give you access to Eweka Nl and HWNG DE servers apart from Newshosting US use all servers to increase speed and availability) ,Supernews(Giganews US and NL servers) and (NL only server, they have their own retention and than backfill from Abavia NL and Tweaknews NL), you should watch out for usenetexpress too they will soon be launching servers from EU.
You can top it of with Astraweb(have US and NL servers) if you want to reduce DMCA issues.
All depends on line speed, 2.5hrs is pretty long. I'm currently paying for 3Gbps symmetric, and Usenet will max that for me between Eweka and Newshosting. No matter what though, I've never been able to max out my line with torrents (at least, none so far, private or public). If I were interested in this film though, it would take between 3 and 4mins depending on whether its a 50GiB remux or 75GiB remux.
Well, thanks for all the advice guys. Over night sabnzbd downloaded 15 movies, 110Gb, flawlessly. No errors, no misses. The same nzb files that the Newshosting Usenet Browser client could not deal with. Its simple enough to use sabnzbd, resolves the issue, so I will swap permanently. Newshosting client is still useful as an additional search engine (not the best, by far), and of course it provides the NNTP Newshosting service. So as an all-in-one its not performing at all. But stripped down to separate services, 2 out of 3 are fine.
Of course I have opened a ticket with them, but the back and forthing is too painfully slow (what OS again?, what colour is your mouse? is your computer plugged in? Have you tried re-starting?).
As usual, reddit advice is not often platform-specific, although in my case, that seemed to be the answer. Ask Reddit.
The NGD plan is lifetime (I have it). Speed and retention is no different from Newshosting, which I also have (Usenetserver, Newshosting & Easynews are owned by the same company and have similar performance). Hence, I'm pretty sure that NGD is similar in performance to Usenetserver. The difference is that UNS has a web based search feature.
I don't want to speak for u/harveyharhar but I believe he meant all Omicron/Highwinds resellers will give you the same speed. However the providers you mentioned are not "resellers" for Omicron/Highwinds. For that matter you could also choose Newshosting or UsenetServer and get the same speed as Ninja or NewsDemon. Bottom line is that you'll get great speed from any of the providers who use the Omicron backbone.
If someone can prove they can get a faster connection (over a significant period of time using a relevant method) with Ninja or any other HIghwinds reseller than NewsDemon then I'll comp their account.
I use Newshosting unlimited and usenetbucket 10mbps as my two sources for exactly what you're looking to do. It's about $130/year for this setup and I don't miss a thing if it's available anywhere.
Getting great indexers is equally as important and I'd recommend getting a nzbgeek VIP and or oznzb vip to start and keep your eyes open for invites to dognzb and pfmonkey. In the meantime, add drunkenslug and 6box for free indexers also. I'm sure others will chime in, but basically the name of the game is some diversification if possible.
Make sure you are using all three servers remove all other servers and use only the below
(gives access to Newshosting US)
(gives access to Eweka NL)
(gives access to HWNG DE)
> public trackers
It really doesn't get much easier or better than this for even a somewhat intermediate setup. I have 16TB on a HTPC that doubles as the Plex server that I manage remotely with very little maintenance required. I'm talking maybe an hour a week.
Not sure if you're going to get much of an answer since most people in /r/Usenet don't use that software. The last person that posted here having issues with it ended up switching to SABnzbd/NZBGet
Maybe try contacting Newshosting directly for tech support? Whatever is happening sounds like an issue with the software.
The part I don't get is that after years of it working fine, I've encountered this issue repeatedly just recently. I've been with Newshosting forever and I've never seen the propogation delays I've been seeing in the last 4 to 8 weeks.
>I tried Supernews a while back and kept getting lots of failed downloads
Its DMCA and it will happen on all US based backbones use better indexers and use more than one backbones
XSnews like Farm have NL only servers you should replace Farm with Usenetexpresss same as Farm local retention+Abavia(XSnews) and NGD is same as ND both are Newshosting resellers.
Go for Supernews+NGD/ND and Usenetexpress block if you are still having DMCA issue buy a block on Tweaknews.
You could probably contact u/greglyda of NewsDemon privately and he might honor black friday pricing or cut you a deal of some sort.
He's not the owner of the NNTP platforms (Newshosting, Eweka, Omicron Germany), but it's essentially the same access.
ND offers VPN too.
Actually, I respectfully disagree. These people streaming here with TTV are, I believe, not interested in going out and getting themselves a Newshosting account, or any other, and paying that fee, and then setting up say a Plex server, or whatever you want. Although maybe easy for you and me, I feel the person who wants that has already done so, and is not posting here in this TTV Forum.
Newshosting currently has a $4.99 a month deal
Really depends upon your location,speed and retention you want
Eweka(NL and DE servers only) speed limited to 300mbps doesn't do blocks and retention is 3900 days.
Tweaknews(NL server only) blocks are limited to 100mbps and retention is 3200 days.
Vipernews(NL server only) retention is 100 days.
Farm(NL servers only) retention is 75 days.
Newshosting(US, NL and DE servers) unlimited speed and retention is 3900 days but follows DMCA also blocks are only available through resellers like Newsdemon and Thundernews.
XSnews follows DMCA and not NTD same as Newshosting and Giganews, you are kinda overpaying for Giganews if don't use Vyprvpn get on Supernews also everyone either follows DMCA or NTD though NTD is kinda slower than DMCA so you can look into Eweka(34k+ retention) and Tweaknews(2500 retention) and (1-2 months of local retention after that uses XSnews)
People are confused when they say Highwinds I will give you a clear answer Frugalusenet uses Newshosting on its US servers and HWNG DE on EU servers whereas XSusenet has its own feeds but they use Eweka NL backbone and don't have any US servers.
But it has been said that Highwinds uses global auto DMCA bots on its network comprising EU and US but I dunno for sure.
I will advice you to get a block on Newsoo(FR)(NL)(they resell XSnews after their own retentions) instead of XSusenet.
Chiming in to highly recommend NZBPlanet (I also use NZBGeek as a backup but it’s rarely used). Newshosting has also treated me well (VPN included too), but never pay full price on their website. SUPER easy to find half off subscription codes and such.
You can get an unlimited account with VPN for $100/year. It's what I do. You need to poke around and find an affiliate link. Also, don't downplay the Newshosting client, it's great for finding really obscure things and works quite well.
>old IPs are still working on port 119.
Also if you telnet comes in the welcome msg after authentication.
> --> Newshosting platform (US)
> --> Eweka platform (NL)
There still seems to be difference in Group as opposed to Newshosting.
Newshosting is great! You should also consider a backup provider. What I'd do is sub to Newsgroup.ninja as your primary and a block account from either CheapNews or BulkNews.
If you plan on staying with Newshosting, then get yourself a block account from CheapNews or .
The idea is to have access to two different providers, especially since Usenet is heavily DCMA'd.
Also regarding indexers, get yourself an account from nzbgeek, probably the best indexer around.
Don't bother with the $100 deal from NGD, its not that special. Newshosting and UsenetServer offer the same thing year round without the invisible cap. Check out my post [here](/r/usenet/comments/3qjzxx/newsdemon_is_capping_my_dl_speed_any_alternative/cwg8pvx) for the links. Newshosting is $99.99 a year for unlimited with VPN included and UsenetServer is $95.40 a year for unlimited with VPN. Even though Newshosting is more money its the better choice as they offer 3 times a many simultaneous connections as UsenetServer does.
You are better off with Eweka and Tweaknews as Newsdemon resell Highwinds/Newshosting which follow DMCA as opposed to Eweka(NL and DE servers) which follows NTD and Tweaknews(NL server Base IP BV backbone and network) which also follow NTD look into this
Eweka is offering 50% on annual deal
>Frugal Usenet - $3.99 per month unlimited accounts. Once sold out, $40 per year through the rest of the year. The change will most likely happen Friday morning some time.
You should reduce that price to 3$ as your competitors will be offering full retention at same price.
>Usenetnow- $8.99 per month OR $48 per 6 months, available through rest of the year.
Rather costly TBH even when compared to new yearly Newshosting deal which costs around 6.67$ pm.
All in you are someone who never had any negative rep so thats a huge plus for you.
Shouldn't really make that much difference if you use a US based Highwinds service (ie. Newshosting, Easynews, UsenetServer, Newsgroup Ninja, NewsDemon, Thundernews, Newsgroupdirect, etc) because none of them give access to the TweakNews/Base IP backbone. You'll still find content on TweakNews that isn't available from your US Highwinds resellers.
Check out the [promos](/r/usenet/wiki/providerdeals) wiki page from some deals that are cheaper than Supernews.
Use these two instead
Unless you are using their software as a newsreader and for header you should switch to Newshosting/ninja.
I'm on Newshosting - been with them for a long while. They have a free newsreader that I personally think is great for what I need like built in search and NZB support. DOes all the unraring too. I still use Agent for some things and Powerpost for posting tho. Looked at Giganews back in the day, but they are too expensive. Never tried Astraweb tho.
Make sure you are using both EU and US servers of both Astraweb(no need to use general address) and Supernews(don't use general address instead use and ) also all three US,NL and DE servers of Newsdemon also Astraweb is better used as block and dump Newsdemon to replace with Newshosting.
Older newsreaders throw a fit if an AAAA record is added long after the fact to an existing domain. Might have been able to get away with it on frugal but Blocknews has so many users holding on to their older newsreaders.
But, just for some personal experience as an example, for years, I had poor performance on IPv6. It was capped at 10 mbits for me due to PC or driver issues never could figure it out. Looking at how happyeyeballs works, during that time, it more than likely still would have chosen IPv6. I always told myself that once available I would leave the choice up to the user explicitly (and then the above reason about older newsreaders further solidified it).
Newshosting does it for the same reasons as well as usenet server.
1a.) A indexer helps ID stuff with obfuscated post headers. Maybe people use a few indexers, as different indexers index different a.b.groups.
1b.) Raw search is just the post subject name. Category, could be the group, type of data, source of data, ...
1c.) Newshosting newsreader is limited to the post subject name, so plan type. It doesn't do anything that a indexer would do to ID the obfuscated post.
2.) I'm not sure you need a vpn for downloading just use SSL. The providers don't keep a history of what a account downloads. Only reason for a vpn is if a ISP is idling your speed.
3.) No idea, never used it.
You will get failed TV downloads if they are old no matter which provider you use, get a block account or two (Tweaknews and it may help. If that doesn't help resort to torrents for your backlog content. I believe Newshosting provide a free vpn with annual subscriptions which you can use to torrent safely.
Newshosting is Highwinds and as the largest US Provider it complies with the law and has DMCA takedown of popular content. Giganews is also US based and will have content take downs as well. Either way both a good primary accounts that need to be supplemented with a backup or block account. Please note that Supernews is a Giganews subsidiary which has the same quality as Gignews but at a lower more competitive price point. So Highwinds or Supernews as primary with blocks from a EU provider like Tweaknews.
Correct. Highwinds leases their service out to providers like Newshosting, Usenetserver, etc.
I have used Newshosting for ~2yrs now and it has been rock solid. Maxes out my 50 mbps connection, SSL, unlimited downloads, etc. I used to maintain an Astraweb block account to help with the rare download that Newshosting struggled with, but it took almost 18 mos to use 20GB and I never bothered to buy another block.
If you decide to buy Newshosting, make sure to find a referral link to get the $9.99/mo plan instead of the $12.99/mo plan found on their site.
Referral links in the 'Packages' section of this page: ?id=2
Being as Newshosting is owned by Highwinds it is unlikely (but not impossible) that you will have invisible cap issues like the ones that have come up recently from NGD, NewsDemon, ThunderNews and TheCubeNet.
And you should check out Newshosting for Usenet. $99 per year, unlimited. Rock solid, lots of recommendations. Their client is pretty good too, except their search engine is pretty weak. I've found the best free (two searches per day without subscribing) usenet search engine is Grabit from . It's actually an entire client, but I only use it now for the search engine. But it is a nice clean client if you are looking, and it's free for limited use.
Best combination right now is Supernews main(both US and EU servers),Blocknews block(gives acess to Newshosting US,Eweka NL and HWNG DE servers all have different takedowns),Usenetexpress block(gives access to Abavia/XSnews backfill too),Tweaknews block(different takedown than any other highwinds backbone) there will be one time cost for blocks but than you are good to go even for indexer like OMG which is source for all TV releases.
>usenetexpress use their own backbone and secondary via abavia
Yes Express is a backbone on its own but they don't use Abavia for backfilling anymore as Abavia itself uses Newshosting which Express most probably also does too.
> I am guessing I should get a backbone that follows NTD to complement express.
It really depends on you usage though only 4 backbones follow NTD and you have to buy directly from them Eweka,Tweaknews,Vipernews/Novausenet and
>Do you know if newshosting can access Eweka articles
>Eweka can access highwinds articles?
Eweka is a backbone in itself but doesn't have access to Newshosting US servers.
Eweka provides NL and DE servers to Newshosting backbone but the key difference is takedown and speed Newshosting follows DMCA for all its servers US,NL and DE.
First of all Tweaknews backbone isn't same as Usenetserver and Tweaknews has NL based servers only and they use Base IP BV as backbone where are you located what is your ISP speed mostly depends on that as Usenetserver doesn't throttle, I would suggest use the following servers instead of general USN address
(Eweka Nl server)
(HWNG DE server)
Just to be clear here, Newshosting is actually a Highwinds reseller.
Also the one thing that the Usenet sucks at will be live sports, you gotta be pretty lucky to get a recording anytime soon after a game has finished.
UsenetServer is $99.99, both would be superior choices, that will have truly unlimited accounts, for less money.
I download a lot of old stuff. I'm assuming what you mean is retention wise not new release though... seems like that's a tough one to judge.
edit: just looked at Frugal's site vs Newshosting. Looks like Frugal is 600 days vs 3197 on Newshosting. So for twice the price, I'm basically just getting the ability to download older stuff, is that the key?
edit2: looks like ninja has over 3000 days retention. Would that be a happy medium in terms of price vs retention?