Blocknews uses the Highwinds Backbone. Therefore service on Blocknews would be redundant with any of the following:
See the providers wiki page for a complete list. I only mention these because they are the most frequently mentioned Highwinds providers/resellers on this sub.
Blue Monthly - Usenet Farm
Gold Monthly - Vipernews
All Access - UsenetFarm, Vipernews, and UsenetExpress (redundant with UsenetPrime).
> Thank you for the info. It doesn’t seem to be available through iTunes, or any other online service I can think of.
apparently that link doesn't work in the US... soo... usenet:
Newshosting -should- have it.
No both of them don't its been quite sometime though.
Abavia themselves have only a month or so local retention after that they pull from Newshosting/HW Media upto 1250 days.
UsenetExpress has local retention of about 100-300 days and after they also pull from Newshosting/HW Media upto 1100 days.
Farm doesn't backfill from anyone anymore they are completely tier 1 backbone now like Vipernews and Altopia.
Let’s not forget that newsgroup ninja is a shadow company owned by omicron. There was the issue a while back about how ninja was dishonest about their ownership and even a situation where the mods had to remove a lot of the shill posts from some of the ninja related subjects. Everyone here can do better than to support a dishonest provider. WHO KNOWS what else they will be dishonest about?
If Omicron wants to offer $3 usenet, they should just offer it at Newshosting or usenetserver and be done with it.
Thundernews is a Newshosting reseller and not an Eweka reseller so they follow DMCA via Newshosting and Eweka only follows NTD for its direct retail customers.
Resellers buy bandwidth in bulk from backbones like Newshosting so they can give more discount but the cons are they have soft caps on data or speed to counter abuse.
When you buy directly from Eweka you get the advantage of NTD which is alot slower and manual than DMCA though the con is speed is limited to 300mbps and when you buy directly from Newshosting
you get direct support from backbone itself and there is no speed or data cap but you pay a higher cost for it than buying from resellers like Thundernews.
Info on independent providers and Omicron resellers
If you vote your wallet don't punish Omicron resellers. those guys are honest hard working small business owners. If I need access to Omicron or a block I buy through them. Some are active on Reddit, click link above.
Omicron has secretly been undercutting their own resellers (via Ninja) to push them out.
The brands below are directly owned and operated by Omicron. They also bought Readnews and EuroAccess (BaseIP) a few years ago.
Reminder: Let’s not forget that newsgroup ninja is a shadow company owned by omicron. There was the issue a while back about how ninja was dishonest about their ownership and even a situation where the mods had to remove a lot of the shill posts from some of the ninja related subjects. Everyone here can do better than to support a dishonest provider. WHO KNOWS what else they will be dishonest about?
If Omicron wants to offer $2 usenet, they should just offer it at Newshosting or usenetserver and be done with it. Anyone paying full price at Newshosting or Usenetserver should feel dumb.
There is a post on the "other" usenet subreddit that contemplates that perhaps Newshosting is no longer a unique backbone but rather just a cache and Eweka is the backbone. If this is true, I could see your Newshosting oddities as glitches in the cache software / processes.
In addition to what u/pelap said:
Retention for the big players is over 3,000 days (nearing 4,000 days for Newshosting). That means your stuff is available to the public for over 10 years and it gets worse if you re-upload everything every 3 years. Do you feel comfortable having your personal files publicly available for that long period with no means to delete it? Today's strong encryption might be crackable in a heartbeat in 10 years. I wouldn't want to take this chance.
My own thoughts, fwiw:
Ditch Newshosting, switch to Ninja or NGD (same backbone, half the price). Grab a Farm block and lose Astraweb. Those two will get you pretty much anything and everything in my experience. Pare down the indexes to Geek (lifetime sub?) and Dog, using a free DrunkenSlug account as backup for five hits a day. If needed you could even drop dog and rely on a (cheaper) Slug account.
You'll save a decent percentage on your current spend and not lose much if anything by way of end results.
> and how much data remains given the plan you have.
If you have to worry about that you should get an unlimited plan. Newshosting usually sells unlimited plans for like 20 to 30 bucks annually.
If you download less then 50 GB per month you could just get a block from Blocknews. Sometimes they are selling a 500 GB block for as low as 75 cents. Thats about 75 cents annually ;-)
Tweakews is entirely different backbone as opposed to newshosting snd eweka.
As for Eweka NGD also have access to same servers but Eweka follows NTD and also doesn't have access US server whereas NGD resells Newshosting which follows DMCA.
Yes, I have Google Fiber.
I haven't tried Giganews or Astraweb yet but with Newshosting I'm averaging about 24MB/s or 192Mb/s. (The limit is disk speed on this server. So I did some testing on a computer with an SSD below.)
Newhosting screenshot at 55MB/s (52MB/s Average):
Second Try 68MB/s (68MB/s Average):
*Edited for clarity and second speed test.
There are so many things you can use a Pi4 for…. If you get reading up on docker you can host a number of small containers that do various things from this little unit that uses next to no electricity.
I have an external hardrive hanging off mine via USB3 but run NextCloud in docker and drop the hosted data onto the external drive. Same goes for Film/TV which I run through Plex.
Off the top of my head I have the following running on my Pi4 (There are more I can’t think of right now but have well over 30 containers running!)
NewsDemon is a highwinds reseller. That means that service with NewsDemon would be redundant with the following list of providers:
- Frugal (main server)
- Usenet Server
- Newsgroup Ninja
This list is not exhaustive, but represents most of the more popular highwinds providers/resellers mentioned on this sub.
BTW, I love to see that old retro 2005 design on the website. Very cool to see a bit of history!
Although it should be noted that as of 4 days ago, they have changed from being an Omicron/Newshosting reseller to an independent feed all their own, which brings major changes to what you've had for the last year, but also great.
if you like you can get Newshosting for $ 20 a year now you know better then me, how that one works, I am not using them, I do thnk you will need a new e-mail adr not sure
and I cant say any about NGD or Ninja
As I said in the previous thread Giganews/supernews are the last remaining indie backbone with most retention ie 600 days all other backbones not owned by Omicron(Newshosting,easynews(web),eweka,tweaknews and xlned) have either less than a year retention or they are backfilling from Newshosting.
If you want to have diversity drop Giganews instead get Supernews which is always running $72 pa promo.
It's effectively Newshosting.
Omicron runs three systems and then sells access to those systems via various brands (Newshosting, Easynews, UNS, Eweka). You could cancel Newshosting, get this or ND which appears to be matching, and it would be the same.
You have made it confusing by separating Ninja and Newshosting with other resellers these should be all clubbed
Newshosting,ninja,Newsdemon,Thundernews,thecubenet,blocknews(add their deal too ),Fastusenet(though specifically mention they don't have access to NL server).
Also separate Tweaknews with other XLned resellers as you have done with Eweka and FYI Tweaknews current retention has been increased to 3200 days.
Another correction to be made on UE retention as their local retention is 1 year.
Labour Day deals:
Newshosting US$4,17/mo: ?promo=workersday&rate=163
EDIT: Thanks to /u/Max_Xevious for the links being switched. Fixed.
> Any idea of which country it would be for sale in? I can't imagine it not being for sale in the US, but available elsewhere. Although maybe The Soup was popular in Japan? or Korea? who knows.
fine, now I'm on a mission, give me about 30 minutes ;)
edit: ugh, it's so damn old even usenet is giving me shit air date is 05/29/2009 episode 619 (season 6 episode 21)
edit: found.. but can't find a server with it on it...
Newshosting -should- have it.. but I'm not putting my CC info in there, because I'll forget to cancel it.
In case anyone is wondering how some people can go over a TB a month, it's easy. Get a Newshosting usenet account, it comes with a VPN that you can use for torrents. Add a wife that won't stop watching youtube on her Ipad and a grandaughter that watches Rick and Morty 24/7 on her ipad and BOOM, you have maxed out by the 15th of the month.
> and also his website have no mentions of it
Are there ANY Newshosting resellers who actually have that on their websites? I feel like you're holding this dude up to a standard that no other resellers are meeting. I don't know why in particular, but I feel like he's been pretty open about everything.
Seriously, it's crap. If you insist on using a Win32 program to browse USENET: get NewsbinPro and subscribe to their search service. They have a 15 day trial, check it out.
Highwinds primary (Newshosting, NewsDemon, Thundernews, Frugal, etc) with blocks from Tweaknews, UsenetExpress and . Check the [promos wiki](/r/usenet/wiki/providerdeals) for best current deals.
I'm guessing anybody who is waiting for an Omicron backbone deal is still waiting but in the provider deals link, there are several Omicron servers still showing for 30-40 dollars a year. Tweaknews, Ninja, Frugal. I'm waiting to see if there are any better black friday specific deals or hoping to score a block from blocknews tomorrow but from what I've seen so far with Newshosting and Eweka the black friday deals aren't looking so good. There was better pricing just a few months back on both. But if others don't roll out any black friday specific deals, maybe pull the trigger on one of these deals instead. They aren't listed above because they aren't technically black friday deals (I believe).
And then there is this
> [–] u/criollitorenegau 9 points 3 hours ago
> I think they’re just sending (targeting) this to users who have accounts on their resellers. I have an active account at two of their resellers (I use different email for every account) and both emails got the discount offer. But my email address associated with newshosting did not. Must mean newshosting is logging the shit out of our usage patterns.
u/criollitorenegau claims he never disclosed or shared two email addresses to Newshosting.
How did Omicron acquire that data?
From what I have learned:
If you want "true" Eweka, ONLY option is buying directly from Eweka (and with true Eweka, I mean NTD policy instead of DMCA).
So to answer your question: No, Thundernews wouldn't make sense. Thundernews=DMCA (Newsdemon=DMCA). So basically exact same Newshosting providers/services following same DMCA policy.
First of all peep here have been spoiled by Newshosting resellers low prices so they will be comparing your service to them but even by comparing to or newsxs all your services are too expensive also this 1200 days retention is misinformation when XSnews itself has only 1100 days.
The easiest thing to do would be to switch Astraweb to a block, which won't save you any money today, but will start saving you money in like 6 months.
If you only ever download new content, then you could switch Newshosting to an annual Frugal account for $50.
If you sometimes download old content then you could still switch to Frugal and then just augment your Highwinds backend with another block account from someone else.
This is legit.
It's the old owner of Newshosting
Only complaint is the pricing, he could be a little more competitive and it would definitely help him more long term. He needs customers to join at the beginning to break even and sustain growth.
If you're listening:
Get the milk from the cow. Astraweb, Easynews, Eweka, Giganews, Newshosting, Supernews, TweakNews, UsenetServer or XS News are all providers that are owned by the backbone supplier and sell direct to the consumer. This is the most reliable path to truly unlimited usenet access. To my recollection none of the above listed services has ever had a "false unlimited" complaint levied against them.
Resellers are great for blocks and average downloaders but if you consume TB's of bandwidth monthly then you shouldn't be with a reseller.
its an obfuscated post.... it's nothing out of the ordinary. If you have automatic renaming and sorting turned on your stuff will be renamed and put in the correct location via dnzb header information that came along with the nzb when you downloaded, or through meta-tag information that is in the *.nzb itself. if Newshosting 2.1.1 isn't meeting your expectations, use sab or nzbget
newsgroupdirect and newshosting are all highwiinds. In addition Blocknews has its DMCA managed by Highwinds so in effect 3 of your providers are the same server farm. I am assuming that your NGD account is a block so you might want to keep that and cancel Newshosting as your primary.
If from the US look to Supernews as a primary feed. Its the same network as Giganews but you can get an unlimited account for $9.99 a month. Tweaknews works good as a block or primary and is Dutch but your speeds my vary depending on your network and location.
You take the file you want to post and shove it into winrar/7zip. You set it to split to 15mb sizes. Winrar does its thing and then you post the parts using Powerpost (you can also run it through a Par2 program for some parity files).
Powerpost generates an nzb (or you can get it from a search engine) and you use that later to download it.
Now, retention. The big boys of the Usenet firms are always adding more and more retention and don't appear to be stopping. So, theoretically, your data should be safe and sound on Usenet as long as the retention keeps increasing.
With Usenet providers coming under safe harbour regulations, they will probably be around a lot longer than your average cyberlocker/cloud service. They also have the added advantage of being transferrable. So, if say you were with Newshosting and they went bankrupt, then you could just join another Usenet provider that offered similar retention and have access to your data again.
Newshosting and XSNews are providers. Head over to the sidebar to read up on providers.
SAB is nzb download software.
Edit: for your user case, I suggest upgrading your newshosting account (or get a proper, new one) while you work out if usenet is for you or not
Astraweb no longer has their own servers. They sold out to Omicron/Newshosting and are a reseller like everyone else.
You don't have to switch back and forth. That's what block accounts are for. You need 2, maybe 3, providers on different backbones.
Omicron doesn't want all of their existing $10 subscribers of Newshosting, UNS, Easynews, etc to become $2 subscribers. That would actually hurt them.
They're doing these deals to try and kill resellers and competition with customer turnover (churn)
Omicron is just the parent company they don't enforce rules for takedowns its enforced by the backbone themselves currently Omicron operates three backbones Newshosting, Eweka and Tweaknews and every one of them is different with each other in every aspect.
Newshosting is a good service but $89.99 a year is only a good price compared to their regular overpriced service fee. The same service can be had from resellers for less than half that price. Newsgroup Ninja is $39.99 a year for example.
Check out the wiki page for direct links.
Altopia can be a good alt if they can increase the retention to atleast 30 days and offer a more cost effective rates.
As for Newsguy they don't even offer tls1.2 and their cert is self signed also they are too costly and most probably are hybrid backfilling from Newshosting they don't even have their own network they use Highwinds/Stackpath transit network and even than offer only 1300 days retention.
As for Elbracht they seem to be focused only on their own ISP customers or other German customers as they also have a self signed cert and they are too costly for blocks which are not even non expiry apart even premium-news silver acc cost is 12.78 euro not really cost friendly at all.
Yes, unlimited is unlimited without any asterisks. Some back-end servers need a specific amount as a limit which normally people don't reach(2tb is nothing), but even if you do they reset it if you ask them too.
I have to ask though, Why Newshosting? Why not say NewsGroupDirect/NewsDemon or ThunderNews or something? NewsDemon and NewsGroupDirect are resellers of NewsHosting and are considerably cheaper. (check out provider deals in the wiki).
See the map r/usenet/wiki/providers/ also FYI Omicron doesn't follow same DMCA and NTD for all backbones HW Media/Newshosting DMCA is different from Base IP/XLned DMCA and Eweka NTD is different from Base IP/Tweaknews NTD.
After years of using multiple accounts I find I no longer need a supplemental block account along with Newshosting or Newsdemon. And this is with Sickbeard and Couch Potato, which are considered past their prime.
For some time I have found NzbGeek to catch every thing I want so I let my Dog subscription lapse. For shows on networks with efficient take down procedures I sometimes need to browse Dog manually but even then a Highwinds provider still has what I'm looking for.
I have developed a taste for foreign language tv shows. Sickbeard often cannot capture these. So I have returned to searching torrents manually, which usually works. Currently I find a bundled VPN service to be more useful than a supplemental block account.
I'm actually spending less on Usenet these days but downloading more. :)
Astraweb's US and EU domains point directly to netblocks for Newshosting and Eweka.
The Astraweb IP are surrounded by IP for other Omicron (Highwinds) owned businesses and resellers that have unique domains resolving to the same Newshosting and Eweka CIDR ranges.
You are downloading from
--> Newshosting platform (US)
--> Eweka platform (NL)
Searchtech's Astraweb service is no longer unique.
Whether or not Searchtech Limited sold Astraweb is an unknown at this point.
If I had to guess, Searchtech's long standing payment processing and network problems became too large. They were forced to sell (not seeing indicators yet) or maintain their business, keep customers, shed their infrastructure, resell Omicron services (newshosting, eweka), and let Omicron handle payment processing.
You are overpaying with Giganews and Easynews replace Giganews with Supernews() same backbone as Giganews and Easynews with Newshosting() same US and NL servers but they give access to DE server too and it really helps in terms of speed and get on Tweaknews and (resell Abavia/XSnews after their own retention of about 2 months) both have NL only servers and you are set.
No. is a Tier 1 provider for the first 30 days which actually helps greatly with new releases, after that it is mainly a XS News reseller (which also includes that first month of retention). They also pull articles from Highwinds but that part isn't that good, misses many after 1500 days or so but goes back for 3000 days.
is the cheapest XS News (as far as I know) block provider, and considering they also offer 30 days of retention from their own servers it is the best block to use with Highwinds, Astraweb and Giganews. That they offer both Highwinds and XS News for very cheap is especially important for the last two main account options. At least this is what I think. I am very happy with Newshosting + and Astraweb blocks.
Most people use Sanbzbd because it works well with CouchPotato, SickBeard and Headphones. I use Newshosting as my primary and that comes with its own client, which I prefer as I don't need automation.
Newshosting though remove all files of a taken down release so no chance of completion with help from other backbones in such cases & you will have to find a different version of that release on other backbones.
Cube was reselling Highwinds Media, which is exactly the same server as Newshosting, before Cube switched to Usenet Express.
Frugal is still reselling Highwinds Media, but with limited retention and an added Usenet Farm bonus server.
1st - Try other indexers for your failed nzbs. There are quite a few with a limited free mode which is perfect to testing theses failed nzbs. I suggest ninjacentral and tabula rasa. If you can fill your gaps (or more), you can check API and other functionalities.
2nd - Your provider is fine, as Frugal has 2000d (or even more right now) on highwinds, so you don't need another Omicron provider. Eweka with NTD could be a little better, but someone here compared Newshosting (Frugal highwinds base) and Eweka and found little to no difference. Instead I suggest a block from UsenetExpresss, e.g. via Newsdemon, as sometimes they can fill these gaps, even so not very often (that's why no unlimited right now). Viper and probably wont solve your 200-500d gap, because that isn't their strengh. They have other advantages. With frugal you already have access btw.
> Random articles are highly likely to be spam since we have read that a small percentage of the usenet is not spam.
True. But no provider, to my knowledge, public commented on the fact till much later. When I was running my tests, the default assumption was that providers either had their own deep retention, or they relied on bigger providers for such retention. You could actually see articles being pulled from other providers in real time by observing path headers (for those providers that exposed such details).
> It was not my impression Newshosting was a cache system? If it is a cache, how does that explain an article appearing and then disappearing in such a short period of time (days)?
I can't say with any certainty that it is. But articles disappearing and reappearing is to be expected in any caching system. Caching systems using LRU exhibit precisely this behavior.
I already understood that I would need full nzbs to test with since I knew I would eventually be testing some providers who cache and I want to use the same articles for all the tests. Random articles are highly likely to be spam since we have read that a small percentage of the usenet is not spam.
I have a program that I have altered to output some stat data. It is clear that article abc123 is present on the Newshosting platform now and gone later and then back again at a later time. It was not my impression Newshosting was a cache system? If it is a cache, how does that explain an article appearing and then disappearing in such a short period of time (days)?
Yes. The Eweka servers are very slow for me at Vint Hill. From what I can gather, Eweka and Newshosting are both pulling their deep retention from the USA, so anytime I try to connect from OVH in Vint Hill, the data flows from USA -> Europe (Eweka) ->Vint Hill.
I use a combination of 4 indexers, Newshosting, Giganews, UsenetFarm, and Eweka, and haven't ran into any issues. Newshosting has tanked 99% of my requested articles so the rest aren't really necessary but are nice to have for fallbacks.
I didn't get the email, but my account page indicates that I have 100 connections now, with the following message:
"ENJOY 100 CONNECTIONS FOR FREE!
To thank you for using Newshosting, we've upgraded your account to support 100 connections. Please make sure to update your newsreader settings. Thank you for using Newshosting!"
If you are using e. g. SABnzbd, you can and should prioritize your accounts, so that your main account is used first and if articles are missing, lower priority accounts are being used.
My setup: Newsdemon unlimited prio 1, Newshosting unlimited prio 2 and blocks from and abavia as prio 3 and 4. In my experience my blocks are mostly not used, because if the article was missing on Newshosting, it is also missing on farm and most of the time on abavia too. Blocks are already one year old and >90% still unused.
We price matched this at NewsDemon for a month and at NGD we beat that price by 10% ($18) for a month, but $20/year is below cost for almost all Usenet providers for an average unlimited user, so we stopped. We heard from multiple Usenet sites (many we aren't yet affiliated with in any way) throughout the industry that the deal was causing harm, so we decided to stop matching that price. We are capable of absorbing the loss on these accounts, but many providers/resellers are not and we felt like it was damaging the industry and creating an unfair environment.
If you are dead set on having Newshosting as your provider or are already subscribed there, I highly recommend taking advantage of the "limited time special" they are running and ask them to switch your account immediately. It has only been running publicly since June, so it could end at any moment. /s
Eweka and the EU backbone of Newshosting are the same, just different takedown policies regulated through software afaik. I assume Omicron knows that Eweka is "special" because of the NTD takedown policy and that's why they still lock it to 300Mbit/s. They want people with fast fiber connections to double-dip and basically pay for the same backbone twice.
You're using the client simply to browse the backbone. In essence, you're acting as your own indexer. Indexers can also decrypt obfuscated titles so you know exactly what you're downloading. When you search for stuff with the Newshosting client, you just see the obfuscated title of the file.
If you have a really good indexer, you can download almost anything off US Omicron providers (within its retention period, of course). As a test, I setup Newshosting (0), Tweaknews (1) and Eweka (2). Tweaknews and Eweka hardly got any action. When I downloaded the same contents with just Newshosting, the missing files didn't make a difference, as they were repaired after download anyways. Cheers.
I set retention for Usenet Express to 2000 days in NZBGet. Their local retention is ">365 days".
They were reselling Newshosting earlier so the 3k days retention wasn't their own but now they are building a new backbone themselves but don't expect 3k retention as thats impossible right now only Omicron backbones have that.
> So are you guessing they are going to merge the Eweka & Tweak databases?
Happened four years ago.
2014-10-31 TweakNews maintenance Nov 5th
> I wonder if it would be legally possible to have a single private usenet retention database but different revisions
That's effectively what Omicron is doing now with the Amsterdam (NL) platform with services sold in the United States.
Easynews, Newshosting, Usenetserver and others that provide access to the NL platform have a different ACL policy than purchasing directly from Eweka.
Same storage, restricted by software.
Well it seems to be a newsdemon problem, I have tried , vipernews and Newshosting they all work.
Newsdemon is saying it’s on my end I changed my plan a month back to a 40 for 2 yrs instead of monthly that was a mistake
Technically Highwinds is no longer "the provider"
The Miller family sold off the Highwinds name and CDN infrastructure to Stackpath a few years ago. Stackpath still provides an upstream (internet transit), but does not run or own the old usenet operations.
All of the old Highwinds usenet brands and subscribers were retained by the Millers and is now held under Omicron Media.
Omicron Media currently owns Easynews, Eweka, Newshosting, UsenetServer, Tweaknews, XLned, SunnyUsenet, PureUsenet, and Newsgroup.ninja
EuroAccess (baseIP) and Readnews customers are also owned by Omicron Media.
Yours seems awfully expensive.
An NZBPlanet or NZBGeek (Indexers) subscription is like $10/year (I went ahead and just bought lifetime memberships to both since they're so cheap).
A quick Google search for "Newshosting discount" (Usenet provider) and you'll be able to find a $99/year subscription that includes VPN.
in, that's $109/year, half (or less) than what you're paying. Any idea where the difference / delta is?
I'm kind of amazed that people with Newshosting/Newsdemon are always asking about backup accounts. After many years of using blocks from providers like Tweak I stopped a couple of years ago and there is almost nothing I can't get. It's true that Sonarr and Radarr have to go through most of my several indexers to find some shows that haven't been taken down but they always get them eventually. Maybe once in a while I have to settle for 720p instead of 1080p. Very rarely I have to use Hydra to find a file that is actually obfuscated but not titled as such; in that case I have to manually click the link and check the file names. If I'm more willing to be patient Sonarr will do the same work for me.
So I can't imagine getting any more than I get now with another provider in Europe. And I have hundred of shows going back as far as Newsdemon's retention allows.
Keep in mind Eweka is limited to only 300mbps and only NL and DE servers there is no US server but the pro is NTD takedown whereas Newshosting is not speed limited and does have access to Ewekas NL and DE servers but the con is DMCA takedown as Eweka only follows NTD for its own direct customers making Eweka having different completion rate than Newshosting.
Astraweb isn't a backbone anymore they resell HW Media/Newshosting as for Eweka there is distinction between Newshosting/HW Media(and its resellers) and Eweka first being Eweka doesn't have access to US server and another being Newshosting/HW Media follows DMCA across all three servers whereas Eweka follows NTD so you will find articles on Eweka which have been DMCAed from Newshosting/HW Media.
Any of the omicron resellers would be good and fast. Most of the time the resellers are cheaper than Newshosting or usenetserver is and there is no difference at all. Check out newsdemon or newsgroudirect if you want full retention. I think you can get newsgroupdirect for $40USD/year? Check out Frugal if you want around 1000 days.
Change from Astraweb to Supernews though retention around only 1800 days or less.
Also get an unlimited on Highwinds/Newshosting or one of its resellers if you want retention instead of blocknews.
With Astraweb's change this month they are basically a duplication of your Blocknews account (Although I think Blocknews may provide access to Newshosting's DE server and Astraweb may not)
Since you're using all blocks I'd base this somewhat on which is cheapest to replace. I obviously don't have any way of knowing what deals you've gotten, but just based on "retail" pricing from each provider I'd probably order it something like:
That said I'd review your current lineup when your existing blocks are used, as your setup now has some overlap in providers and probably isn't ideal.
Newsdemon is Highwinds/Newshosting reseller and have access to their US,NL and DE servers with around 3388+ days retention is a hybrid provider having their own retention of around 1-2 months after which they use Abavia for around 1110 days retention and have NL only servers.
Try both Nzbplanet and Nzbfinder both are excellent also see you are not overpaying for Supernews
Also get a block on blocknews(resells Newshosting) and Usenetexpress(own 90 days retention and than resells XSnews).
You should go with Eweka(NL and DE servers and follows NTD) instead of Newsdemon(Newshosting reseller with US and same NL and DE servers as Eweka but Newshosting follows DMCA) and Tweaknews(NL servers and follows NTD) instead of Usenetbucket(XLned reseller same backbone as Tweak but XLned follows US DMCA).
Not really, especially considering an indexer like NZBGeek is only around $6 for 6 months...
Some of the other indexers may be $10-$20 but they are that price for usually the entire year.
I have used what you consider all-in-one solutions provided both by Newshosting and Giganews. And I still ended up opting for using separate indexers coupled with Sonarr/Radarr and SABnzbd. NZBGeek is such a nicer looking way to search for content (when doing it manually) than looking at the included Browser offered by Newshosting or Giganews.
Same Highwinds servers offered by Newshosting and Usenetserver but for $5.99/mo
news-us.newsgroup.ninja >> Newshosting platform in Ashburn. Virigina US
news-nl.newsgroup.ninja >> Eweka platform in Amsterdam, NL
news-de.newsgroup.ninja >> Highwinds platform (possibly a small cache) in Frankfurt, DE
Additionally, newsgroup.ninja permits connections (50) which should help to maximize your line.
Use the least amount possible as required. This discussion might also offer some insight on regional platforms.
> Would UsenetExpress block account be a good choice to use as a back up to Newshosting?
Sure, different backbones so I feel it would be a good choice.
>Do you allow account sharing for block accounts?
>and lastly does the block account expire?
Teranews, Bubbanews, and Yottanews were resellers of Nibble Information Systems ().
Nibble Information systems officially dissolved in 2009, but may have shutdown their nntp system as far back as 2004-2005. At that time Newshosting, Easynews, and Usenetserver (using Highwinds software) began to outpace nibble's 7 day binaries retention.
When Nibble shutdown the nntp backend and when their resellers switched to Highwinds, I really don't know.
> Q: How many groups does your server have?
> A: Our server currently has about 60,0000 groups. We will add any newsgroup that are requested.
> Q: What is the retention times for articles on your server?
> A: It depends on the group: text groups about 30 days, picture groups about 15 days, mp3 groups about 10 days, large movie groups about 7 days.
Giganews provides good service. They are kind of expensive but if you are looking for Usenet with VPN and online storage they aren't too bad of a deal. They are probably the most dependable provider out there. I've had several provider before ranging from Astraweb, UsenetServer, and Newshosting. They all provided good service. I'm currently with Fast Usenet a try.
The Newshosting BF deal is also not exclusive to BF, its available year round at Its also $5 more than the same deal from UsenetServer available at
Me and Newshosting go back 8 years now. In that time we've had some ups and downs, but generally she's been a fine boat to sail on. Occasionally, the pesky landlubbers put holes in her sides and she leaks a bit, but not as much as people think.
For older files you need something from Omicron. Indie providers like Newsgroupdirect only have full retention for a 100 days or so, after that they purge everything that is not considered popular enough by some algorithm. If you only go for that super popular stuff you may be fine, deviate from that and you'll run into problems. A block from Blocknews or Maximumusenet or an unlimited account from Eweka, Newshosting etc. should get the job done. Take a look at provider deals
You should add something Omicron-based like Eweka, Newshosting etc. to have more success with these old posts. More indexers, especially ones that aren't open registration all year round that have good obfuscation will also make your downloading more successful if the reason of it not being available is DMCA/NTD.
My setup providers are Frugal > Eweka > Newshosting > Bonus Frugal
Indexers: nzbsu, Dog, DS, Geek, tabula-rasa/nzbplanet
Put them all in nzbhydra and so far the indexer that helps me most is surprisingly nzbsu. Sometimes they even have stuff compiled so I don't have to grab episodes individually (but of course using sonarr will help).
In my opinion maybe you can add more indexers to your list and see if you find what you're looking for. And if later frugal cannot complete it, then you might want to start looking to add another provider.
All of our plans except for the Newshosting Lite plan include unlimited downloads. For seeing your downloads you are correct, you can use the Newshosting newsreader to see how many GB you have used in a month. Thanks for being a loyal customer and let us know if you have any other questions.
Bei "house-of-usenet" wurde sie sicherheitsarchiviert und steht zum Download bereit. Und wie der Zufall so will, ist gerade sogar die Reg offen. Jetzt musst du dir noch einen Testaccount/Free-Trial bei Newshosting, Eweka oder so erstellen und nach Verwendung nur früh genug wieder Kündigen, sicherheitshalber nur einen Monatsaccount und nicht den voreingestellten Jahresaccount buchen. Und schon hast du die Doku, ganz einfach.
Newshosting was the first upstream provider I ever had for the NewsDemon brand. Really got me off the ground and got me started in Usenet. It was a terrific service.
The guy who owned/ran Newshosting back in those days, before he sold NH to Highwinds, is now my partner at UsenetExpress and he is the dude that makes the thing go. Incredible guy, loyal and honest, great friend, and gifted at running a Usenet farm.
Since you really can not create old retention this just means Omicron allowed access to the same old articles you can get on any of their other providers like Newshosting or Easynews. This just means that Tweak is now more redundant with the other Omicron properties than it used to be.
Eweka runs the EU backbone of Omicron. Even the EU server of Newshosting and it's resellers is the Eweka backbone, just routed through a virtual backbone so they can do DMCA for Newshosting customers/Newshosting resellers and NTD for direct Eweka customers.
The US Omicron backbone is run by Newshosting.
As for Tweaknews, check Reddits Usenet Provider Map linked below. They have some local storage and the rest is pulled from Ewekas backbone. Only Omicron knows how large that local storage is, but it's probably less than 30 days.
Reddit Usenet Provider Map
> Newsgroupdirect resells Newshosting
Not true anymore. That chart is in dire need of an update.
OP: Keep Newshosting & Tweaknews if you care about retention. NGD's retention got slashed recently & blocknews is a Highwinds reseller so it's redundant with Newshosting.
Read this post
UNS, Newshosting, Easynews and Newsgroup.ninja all provide access to the same servers. There is effectively no difference in service. It's all branding.
Newshosting throws in a free copy of Newsbin Pro with the Internet search feature turned on for free. It's not quite as good as your average indexer for finding stuff, but it's not bad. Newsbin Pro's watchlist feature isn't as good as using Radarr and Sonarr, but it's OK too. If you don't want to set up automation, it's a cheap solution to using paid indexers.
Takedown on Easynews NNTP platform is same as Newsgroup.ninja as both resell Newshosting/HW Media only difference would be Easynews web platform might be using separate takedown also both have same retention so I don't think you gained anything in terms of article completion other than cost cutting.
All depends on line speed, 2.5hrs is pretty long. I'm currently paying for 3Gbps symmetric, and Usenet will max that for me between Eweka and Newshosting. No matter what though, I've never been able to max out my line with torrents (at least, none so far, private or public). If I were interested in this film though, it would take between 3 and 4mins depending on whether its a 50GiB remux or 75GiB remux.
Well, thanks for all the advice guys. Over night sabnzbd downloaded 15 movies, 110Gb, flawlessly. No errors, no misses. The same nzb files that the Newshosting Usenet Browser client could not deal with. Its simple enough to use sabnzbd, resolves the issue, so I will swap permanently. Newshosting client is still useful as an additional search engine (not the best, by far), and of course it provides the NNTP Newshosting service. So as an all-in-one its not performing at all. But stripped down to separate services, 2 out of 3 are fine.
Of course I have opened a ticket with them, but the back and forthing is too painfully slow (what OS again?, what colour is your mouse? is your computer plugged in? Have you tried re-starting?).
As usual, reddit advice is not often platform-specific, although in my case, that seemed to be the answer. Ask Reddit.
Not sure if you're going to get much of an answer since most people in /r/Usenet don't use that software. The last person that posted here having issues with it ended up switching to SABnzbd/NZBGet
Maybe try contacting Newshosting directly for tech support? Whatever is happening sounds like an issue with the software.
The NGD plan is lifetime (I have it). Speed and retention is no different from Newshosting, which I also have (Usenetserver, Newshosting & Easynews are owned by the same company and have similar performance). Hence, I'm pretty sure that NGD is similar in performance to Usenetserver. The difference is that UNS has a web based search feature.