Yes, it means those services won't work. More to the point, they will "work" insofar as they will record the external IP from metronet, but that ip doesn't ONLY point back to you. It's essentially a large "home router" with NAT enabled.
To put it another way, if you and me (both Metronet customers) decide to sign up for dyn, we will have the same IP and no way to forward requests to our services.
I know of two solutions.
1) get a static ip for $10/mo from Metronet.
2) Setup a VPN connection outbound (think Private Internet Access, etc) and while those providers also NAT all connections, they generally give you the ability to port forward back across them to your house. You could then reroute and tunnel anything you want over that VPN.
The second option is actually quite complicated and would require multiple areas of knowledge to pull off but is entirely doable. However, this option does require a paid VPN service account and at that point you might as well just pay a bit more for the no-complications static IP from Metronet.
Get an SC/APC to SC/UPC simplex cable and just move your ONT yourself inside of your house.
You could also just make an SC/UPC to SC/APC cable with a fusion splicer. Metronet wouldn't put it where I wanted it so I just ran new 6 strand TiniFiber(https://tinifiber.com/) from the splice box on the side of my house, then terminated it to a LGX in my fiber panel.
Yeah, I really never use NordVPN. I’ve just had it for 3 years on a deal I got years ago. Definitely just a scam for the most part.
1.1.1.1 is much better than that option, and still yeah, no results that remedy the issue. I’ve provided Metronet with quite a but of trace routes, but I think they’re of the mindset that no one else can notice this issue with their service so they don’t care. Or it’s a small problem to them that only affects a small amount of their customers. I’m not sure if it’s a local peering point with low capacity or the main one in Chicago. I’ve probably been through months of support tickets with these clowns. Their Tier 2 support seems to be the only agents even remotely knowledgable about any type of networking. But if you want to talk to them it’s like pulling teeth.
Something like NordVPN will usually give you much worse latency. They and just about any other "VPN Provider" are more focused on trying to sell the idea of anominity and "security" which is mostly a scam. They are also usually extremely oversold.
But 1.1.1.1 in which they can hopefully then provide you with a more direct route to your final destination than you ISP might be able to. But like you said, it is sort of a crapshoot.
You say you are 3 hours out of Chicago. Perform a traceroute to some random servers and see where the route starts to differ. My guess is you might be going through a few private Metronet hubs before making it to their main peering point in Chicago. Or... you may be hitting a more local peering point that has extremely low capacity.
Yeah, VPN lowers ping half the time, other times loading into game servers it's like the VPN connection just gets bypassed by shitty routing/packet loss. I've even tried Cloudflare 1.1.1.1. I have a NordVPN subscription.
Would you mind posting a screen shot of your Discover tab?
Because your Activity tab looks like mine, which is not how it looked fairly recently when Secure+ was working for me. (I don't recall exactly how it looked, but it had more options in it.)
You can see pictures of the Discover tab with Secure+ by clicking on the pictures on the Android app page. My Discover tab no longer includes any mention of Secure+.
My main router is the Asus-made OnHub which was discontinued long ago, I use the older style pucks too which are no longer in production.
It's this: ASUS SRT-AC1900 AC1900 Onhub Google WiFi Router,Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017C0HZEO/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_gl_i_AR72GTFNQEXZZC2EF3XE
When you say you are using the newest Google mesh routers, are you referring to their new "Nest Wifi" mesh ones with the rounded corners?
I agree though, it's time I downgrade to 500 Mbps regardless of what I do regarding the network hardware.
https://www.amazon.com/Optical-Fiber-Splitter-Single-Cable/dp/B07SJ6G2NW
You’d need another ONT but as long as the light level going into your existing DMARC is good enough, you can split it with the above item and have two ONTS on one incoming line.
I'm in Davenport too, and currently on Mediacom's 100/10 and I'm about done with them. Currently getting https://www.speedtest.net/result/9554829273 , and of course their customer service is not available. I REALLY want to switch to Metronet but have also heard horror stories about outages as well.
I just got Metronet. ONT is separate box from router, i had no issue using my existing router. The installer worked with me on where to bring the fiber in to the home. I have my equipment rack in the basement and they were able to run the fiber directly to the rack.
My ping times are 1-2ms using speedtest to the nearest Metronet server. My speeds are consistently 880-940Mbs up/down . My typical speed test - https://www.speedtest.net/result/9546152702
Had their service for 2 months, no dropouts for performance issues so far. I use a VPN for work and typically get 300+ Mbs through my work connection. So far I am very happy with the reliability and performance of their service.
I didn't get a static IP, but after I complained about not being able to port forward they gave me a free year of static IP.
No idea about ONT/VOIP, as its not something I would use.
That doesn't seem right. I have MN and pay for 100x100 and get it exactly every time. I'd call them. Also go to fast.com to test against Netflix's CDN.
Edit: You have to click "Show more info" button on the bottom after the download test to get the upload speed.
How are you testing your speed?
On wired Ethernet, Using the closest Metronet servers through speedtest.net I am currently at around 500/500... but fast.com is showing 740/900
Since the fiber bandwidth is shared, you will see drops is speed when others are also heavily using it. Also don't expect every server on the internet to keep up. A lot of sites/servers may only have a single gigabit connection and hundreds of users. Plenty of servers still only have 100 megabit connections to the public internet.
https://www.speedtest.net/result/8722446092
Noted, that it seems the servers being used by Speedtest can't handle my upload. I've tried many that aren't Metronet's based and they seem to not be able to handle gig uploads. I constantly get 600 mbps uploads when I test my internet with my Google Wifi router. Also I'm running on a static IP so no carrier grade nat
Yeh, this is a bulk of the info from my unraid docker info:
Repository: binhex/arch-delugevpn VPN: Private Internet Access (PIA) Protocol: Wireguard Nameservers: 209.222.18.222,84.200.69.80,37.235.1.174,1.1.1.1,209.222.18.218,37.235.1.177,84.200.70.40,1.0.0.1
I'm fairly certain its all Deluge thats the problem. I enabled ItConfig and flipped the enable utp to off to begin with. Still showed HRs on my trackers. Now i just changed to the "High Performance Seed" preset.
Whats odd about the whole damn thing is that I SHOW seeding on my client. For some reason its not really pushing to the trackers I think. I will do a "Force Recheck" on a torrent and it'll go off the HR (temporarily), only to go back to saying I'm not doing anything..
Just a huge head scratcher.
Do a speedtest and make sure you are getting close to your speed (use a wired device, not wireless).
After that, I would check your DNS settings on your router. If it is using Metronet's, try one of the free Public ones, like Google's.
There is a free DNS Benchmark program that will test your current ones and other public ones and suggest which servers are best.
Run a local DNS server, but here is the forwarders it uses (in this order)
There is a program called DNS Bench that will perform tests against public DNS servers as well as any custom ones you add.
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From what others have posted Metronet does not support IPV6 on most of their network (it sounds like Lansing might be an exception since they took over from a different ISP).
Generally speaking, yes IPV6 would solve this problem as all your computers would be directly globally addressable (the problem port forwarding is trying to solve).
Looking at portmap.io you could probably get by with the free plan. You just only port forward your VPN server. Once you are connected to the VPN server you have full access to your network so there is no need to directly expose anything else..
OP- If you can borrow another computer, I would suggest re-trying the speed test with a different computer. I'd also use a variety of speed test services (speedtest.net, fast.com).
I don't have the eero Pro 6, but I do have the previous eero Pro model, which was provided to me by Metronet when I started service in Summer 2020. I can confirm that it will work with other off the shelf eero devices, as I have this extender in my house: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077CDGS9S/. My parents, who started service with Metronet this summer, also have the same extender, but I do not recall which model of base router they have (same as mine or Pro 6).
Was going to suggest the same thing. I bought this eero extender on Amazon for $71 on a Lightning Deal in June. It's dead easy to set up, and it's already almost paid for itself in savings over renting from Metronet. Wait for sales around Black Friday to see if the price drops again.
Amazon eero Beacon mesh WiFi range extender (add-on to eero WiFi systems) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077CDGS9S/
I have had cables go bad. Usually they tend to just not work, but I have had bad ones that seem to work barely on PCs and report very slow connection speeds.
You can buy them and they are relatively inexpensive. Look for what they said Cat 5e or Cat 6 Ethernet cables. One example : Monoprice Cat5e Ethernet Patch Cable - 10 feet - Black | Snagless RJ45, Stranded, 350Mhz, UTP, Pure Bare Copper Wire, 24AWG - Flexboot Series https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00KWS7IN2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apan_glt_fabc_X6AY0QEVBD7BKBSQ2CBA
Just make sure you look at the length of the cable when purchasing (they range from really short to extremely long).
I’ve personally never had luck with any Netlink equipment. I got this Synology router and it’s been awesome for me: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5MPTG1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_4DH705SH9QVCCJ46CB10?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I wouldn’t recommend the router that comes with Metronet. I had tons of issues. I bought this one and haven’t looked back https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R2AZLD2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_dl_AWQR92AFGRNMMX0XB54K
I'm thinking of getting Metronet. Do you use the same pillar as Spectrum? Or can you slice into the fiber closer to the front of my townhome? It would be easier to cut through the grass instead of going under the tar.
Does the equipment have to be in a certain location? Do you run fiber in the house, or can the coaxial cable handle 1GB speed for short distances? I want my desktop PC to be hardwired, does it have to be close to modem?.
If you want TV service does the equipment need to be close to the TV or do you send a wireless signal? Speaking of wireless, can I use my TP-Link Archer C7 wireless router?
I use NordVPN, do I have to do anything special? I've heard you have to pay $10/month for a static(?) IP address. Is that true? I have Nord on my harddrive, not in my browser. I use Linux Mint.
Thank you
many vpns will put you behind a NAT and that means some games have issues. Depending on the game you want to play, especially if you want to host the game. Some VPN people like Nord or ExpressVPN have options you can buy that will give you a public IP so you can host games.
Easiest thing is just to get a static IP from metronet.
You had mentioned no interference in the original post. Do you have any way to do a wireless site survey? There are some apps that can show what channels are being used around you. They can't always show other kinds of wireless noise.
I don't have an Eero, so I don't know what kind of feedback they can give (if any). There appears to be an Eero app, might try that too (assuming you haven't already). The Unifi devices can actually display all the channel activity and noise on each of the channels near each access point.
One example (Android): Wifi Man
I believe there are similar apps on iPhone, but I've heard there are some hardware restrictions on the iPhone that prevent some of the features that work on Android.
Here is the cloudflare app for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cloudflare.onedotonedotonedotone
And iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/1-1-1-1-faster-internet/id1423538627
Yeah, I play Overwatch. I tried NordVPN first which is a full VPN suite and got like 60ms ping (I usually get a solid 25ms when Metronet isn't being stupid, and around 200+ms ping when they are being stupid) so 60 was better than 200. But then I tried which is specifically made for gaming and does some other routing magic, anyway, even when Metronet is being bad gives me around a 30ms ping. Not too bad. It does cost $15 a month tho (if you pay per month).
This may be a bit of a stretch, but what are you using for DNS servers? If it is taking a bit to startup, but then works fine, it could be a slow DNS response the first time the computer / device is looking up the appropriate addresses. Might look at using different DNS servers than the default Metronet ones.
I agree about the wireless. You might look for a wireless analyzing app, assuming you have a smart phone. On Android, I like Wifi Analyzer - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer&hl=en It can let you see other networks and see if there might be a better channel for your wifi network to be on.
Another thing. I don't have Android TV, but I do have a Roku. The Roku sticks (cheaper models) only have a single wifi antenna and like to broadcast their own wifi signal to talk to their remotes on the same channel they are using to get on the wifi. This can stomp on the wifi signal.