Hopefully I can help. Each camera has a single Ethernet cable run to it. This both powers the camera and also transmits the video stream back. To allow the Ethernet cables to transfer power along the same line, all the cables need to feed back into a PoE switch. Here’s the one I bought which would support up to 7 cameras: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F6DL2FS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This PoE switch then connects to your router via an Ethernet cable as well. This is what allows your home local network to now have access to the video streams from the camera. From here you have two options:
1) Connect a dedicated Network Video Recorder to the router which will “view” those video streams, record the video to an internal HD and provide additional features such as remote viewing, some notifications, etc. There are a bunch on Amazon you could look at. 2) Use your PC as the network video recorder. This is the route I went with. Instead of relying on the software on the NVR box I got to choose my software. I’m using Blue Iris ($60). This lets me fully customize the camera settings, motion alerting, notifications, etc.
No the PI cameras are crap. (I have two PIs and have one of the cams and the IR illuminator). If you even look at the cameras wrong, they break. I think part of the issue is they are using a module that was really made to be built into a product, thus it's not rugged, the ribbon cable is crap, and it has zero ESD (electro static discharge) protection.
If you want a cheap cam to play with, try one of these little $25 Xiaomi cams.
Thanks for your help.
The nvr I'm getting is this: https://tinyurl.com/ych4u637
The poe switch I got is this: https://tinyurl.com/y7pz5n9o (didn't pay that price tho)
Yeah, I was planning on setting it up in one place to test before mounting in place.
Dedicated system is always better but it can be done, you have to consider ip camera compatibility though. Various VMS vendors will have a compatibility list of cameras they can connect to. You might come across systems that say ONVIF compatible keep in mind that ONVIF is a somewhat broken standard and just because a both the camera and VMS says ONVIF compatible does not mean they will talk. To name a few software based systems, if you dont mind running linux in a VM there is zoneminder, Bluecherry, than there are these ones but they are not sold direct to consumer so you have to go through a dealer Exacqvison, Acti(software license is free for there cameras), Avigilon, Milestone. Also if your not concerned about viewing with a mobile app(itleast easily) many ip cameras will allow you to record to a network storage path.
Things to consider: 1. Get an NVR that is larger than you need. For example, if you have 4 cameras get an 8 channel NVR so you won't need to buy a new one if you want to add more cameras. 2. Don't go with cheap cameras. A 2MP camera won't be able to give you a picture clear enough to identify faces or license plates. Go with an 8MP camera which will give you a 4K image. If license plate reading is necessary than buy cameras specifically designed for the task.
I have an Amcrest 4K 8 channel POE NVR with 2TB hard drive and 4 4K IP cameras. The NVR is easily configured for remote viewing either through your phone or PC using the Amcrest app. I'm very happy with the recording and picture quality.. The entire setup cost under $500 USD.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083PT44ZD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_EE06479YQH024TG471RY
You can buy so many on Amazon, get a wireless IP camera for like 60-80$. They even have apps to view from you smartphone or online. Ring cameras are too pricy, they run about 150-200$.
Wireless IP Camera, UOKOO 720P HD Home WiFi Wireless Security Surveillance Camera with Motion Detection Pan/Tilt, 2 Way Audio and Night Vision Baby Monitor, Nanny Cam https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZZQL1XD/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_.d6OzbVXBRY3E
You can the app AtHome Camera. No need to purchase any specialized equipment, simply with two phones, you can establish a professional remote video surveillance system for free. Here is the Google play download sites:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ichano.athome.camera&hl=en
It can take pictures and send it to you when someone breaks into the recording picture. Hope this can help you!
This is my favorite camera and it can zoom to 32mm. It's also a Dahua OEM that does well at night and easily zooms 150-200 ft from the house. The Amcrest camera is 8mp which means it needs 2x the amount of lighting vs a 4mp like this one.
4MP Starlight: 1/1.8” 4Megapixel progressive scan CMOS ,0.002 minimum illumination
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZGF9BRW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Since your starting out, buy one camera and test it to all of your target areas. Then decide where you need to go based on that experience. In my 5 camera setup, I have 3 different types based on the use case. This model handles the most distance across the 3 models I have.
These will accept Cat5/6 up to 8mm in diameter with a flexible gasket that keeps out any moisture. You may have to cut off the strain relief boot on premolded cables in order to make it fit inside the coupler.
https://www.amazon.com/Waterproof-Connector-Shielded-Ethernet-Tedgetal/dp/B095JZSGYG/
I don't think that would work that well, looks like it's more for temporary use on an extension cord. If you can't find a back box for it you could use something like one of these cheap junction boxes instead. There are many on amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/LeMotech-Electrical-Waterproof-Dustproof-Electronics/dp/B09VDBN9BL/
https://www.amazon.com/NineLeaf-Waterproof-Connection-Electrical-Universal/dp/B09P7WCC3H/
Well, it is hard to find a non Chinese made camera. And with that the cloud connection becomes a concern if their video streaming service sends your video data over the cloud to China. So my workaround is to use my old phone as a wireless IP camera using this app called Birds ai view. The app will stream what your old phone or tablet sees to the newer phone which you carry. This is done without using a cloud service or internet connection so the data stays in your private network. The down side of this approach is that it will work only in wour private network over WiFi. So you will be able to see your kids but only when you are in your home wifi network. Howevet it will send you remote notifications with snapshots over email if you wish. If enabled it sends notifications when a person enters the room. Email notifications do require internet access. It will also record the video stream locally on your phone for as many hours as you can fit on your SD card. It does loop recording. I got this app for free on Google app store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.unicordia.dc_free. But it comes with ads. They might have a paied version without ads
I use Eufy OutdoorCam. It gets plugged into the wall for
power and it streams over wifi so I don’t use hardwire for that. The camera
comes with motion detection but it only works when I have internet connection
and is less reliable than I would like. So instead I use an app called Birds ai view that works like an NVR and person detector. The app connects my old phone to the camera via wifi, it records the video stream to my phone and it detects people in the video it receives. On detection I get a notification or I can choose to receive emails with snapshots of the people
detected. I can also set it to play my own audio messages when it finds people.
It’s pretty cool. I got it from Google app store for free: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.unicordia.dc\_free.
A cheaper alternative to Eufy is Wyze V3. It costs about 35$ in the US.
Try this: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Momentum-720p-WiFi-Video-Audio-Monitoring-Camera/47445937
Cheaper, lower resolution, but you can have more than one of these for a lower budget and onboard SD card recording is possible.
I usually use the good IP67 rated water proof couplars.
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Thanks for your response!
https://www.amazon.com/HDView-Convert-Cameras-Realtime-Converter/dp/B07CVW4JCS
This is the cheapest one I could find? Is this what you mean? And I would need it for each analog cam?
The LAN port of the SV3C cameras can pickup DHCP and you can log into it via a browswer to setup the wifi.
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Yeah there's lots of cameras that fit this bill but it seems like there's very few cheap wifi cameras. Sometimes I just want a camera to monitor a specific area of the house or yard but don't plan to use it permanently. For instance, monitoring pets while away. Cameras are not permanent installs but rather just something used now and again.
I really liked the idea of PTZ cameras like the E1 Zoom but cloud based setup still means my camera could become a brick some day. I am still not sure if I can like change network information without using the setup process.... Wish that information was more available. Honestly this is just about principal than practicality. I simply dont want to reward companies for making what I consider sub par products. I will gladly pay a lot more for something guaranteed to work as long as the components last.
I am now probably just going to go the esp32 camera route. Something like https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RXPHYNM which I could flash with tasmota or use a custom arduino sketch encode a RTSP stream. This might be the only way to get the control I desire. Was hoping for something a bit simpler but I'll probably have fun setting this up :).
I really liked my SV3C cameras, support onvif, RTSP, poe, support NVR, can record in SD card, can work without internet access, etc.
50 feet away you can get away with a varifocal zoom PoE camera.
Amcrest 4K Optical Zoom AI IP PoE Camera, Varifocal 8MP Outdoor IP POE Camera Bullet, Face Detection, Human & Vehicle Detection, 2.7mm~13.5mm Lens, IP67, 5X Optical Zoom, (IP8M-VB2896EW-AI) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097J5GY22/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_F9S4WWKFWK593RH00A63
Most of these box cameras will either be c or Cs mount. Here’s a totally random adapter to EF I found on Amazon which should actually make that easy to do. Not endorsing this at all so do your due diligence! Would be nice to repurpose some old lenses for sure. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OD3A5RI/
If you can run power to each camera, MOCA adapters may be an option if you want to migrate to IP cameras, I'd double check the supported cable lengths though: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08XWWZTLP?pd_rd_i=B08XWWZTLP&pd_rd_w=x7Mp5&pf_rd_p=8df9856b-9cff-4e77-9cb1-dc4719b9c19d&pd_rd_wg=A9wL9&pf_rd_r=SM4MY6FY7C7XTC2V2Q92&pd_rd_r=3872df7f-7a2e-49c5-9978-c0ec7d06a0d9
If you get a box camera style, you can attach any lens you want. You will need a separate enclosure though as box cameras are not waterproof. These are the older style looking cameras… you would need to do some research on best cameras and lenses for these. I would not recommend if you aren’t prepared to learn about photography.
Stay away from some cameras… sunlight will not hit the cover correctly.
Look at higher resolution, 8MP Bullet cameras with higher light sensitivity. Generally, the optical zoom lens models have larger light apertures and will be able to adjust to changing light conditions.
See this model from Amcrest.
Amcrest 4K Optical Zoom IP Camera, Varifocal 8MP Outdoor POE Camera Bullet, Security Camera, 2.7mm~13.5mm Lens, IP67 Weatherproof, MicroSD Recording, (IP8M-VB2796EW) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B097NRQK7L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_BEHD69K6032JZHVAGMDS
You might want to google search for "long range baby monitor". Here's an example result:
You might want to google search for "long range baby monitor". Here's an example result:
I've used the following in a heated and fanned enclosure. I know it's overkill because it's hardened but still
TRENDnet 10-Port Industrial Gigabit L2 Managed PoE+ DIN-Rail Switch, 8 x Gigabit PoE+ Ports, DIN-Rail Mount, 2 x SFP Slots, 24–57V DC Power Input, IP30, VLAN, Lifetime Protection, Black, TI-PG102i https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MK8M75W/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_8K8RNQKTCFRKXGCYKVVY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
TRENDnet 240 W Single Output Industrial DIN-Rail Power Supply, TI-S24048, Extreme Operating Temp Range -25 to 70 °C(-13 to 158 °F) Built-in Active PFC, UL 508 Approved, Passive Cooling, DIN-Rail Mount https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01707FN3Y/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_0GV6QG1GW606CSVA0E1J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I'd be curious about if something like this would work. I'm looking through the NVR manual to see what type of output POE the NVR supports. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07F2RHLS1/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2C232BUL391Z5&psc=1 I'd have to get an enclosure for it.
Well, you can get an ANNKE (Hikvision OEM) 16-channel system with 8 x 5MP cameras and 3TB HD for under $650 with Amazon coupon savings:
https://www.amazon.com/ANNKE-Security-Surveillance-Recording-Detection/dp/B07S2HP94G/
These bundled cameras are excellent quality, but the outer housing is just white plastic so they are ideal for indoor use, but you will probably want the upgraded housing for outdoor use. You can add the upgraded 8 x ANNKE C500 5MP PoE Security IP Dome Cameras for under $60 each:
https://www.amazon.com/ANNKE-Security-Support-Weatherproof-Vandal-Proof/dp/B095SLG83D/
So, you get a full 16-channel system with no compromises: PoE, Motion Detection, IR Night Vision, High Efficiency H.265+ Compression, Remote Access/Mobile Apps Included, WDR, Outdoor IP67 Weatherproof & IK10 Vandal-Proof.
$719.99 x 1 ANNKE H500 16CH System with 8 x 5MP PoE Security IP Cameras -$83 Amazon coupon savings = $636.99
$59.99 x 8 ANNKE C500 5MP PoE Security IP Dome Cameras -$13 Amazon coupon savings = $466.92
= $1103.91
Downloading can be done on your phone using the mobile app, using the IVMS software, or by using the direct interface and a USB flash drive. Live viewing can be done using the mobile app, direct interface, or by turning on virtual host and using a stream player like VLC to directly access the camera's RTSP stream.
Maybe try ONVIF Device Manager. If the cameras work in there but not in Milestone, it's a Milestone issue (probably). If it doesn't work in ODM, it's probably a camera issue or camera setup issue.
Thank you for the reply, I really appreciate it. That's wild that
"open streaming" would be enabled. I don't see any setting
for such a thing. If that's the case I guess this camera is
getting replaced.
You say "multicast" might be the issue? Could you elaborate on
what that is? If its another protocol I don’t see any mention of it
in the web interface.
This is the camera:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XCMT47N/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o02\_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
c500 is a series not a specific model number, you may have gotten a model without POE, there are POE to 12 volt adapters like this
Sounds good. If you want to try and do it with one camera maybe something like this would work.
Why would it be illegal to record audio? It's a private residence, and the worker would of course be informed that they were being recorded.
I'm in CA and as far as I know as long s the person being recorded is informed it is legal.
The budget thing is a bummer to hear. My initial thought was this from Costco: http://www.costco.com/Lorex-8-Channel-HD-IP-NVR-with-2TB-HDD%2c-8-3MP-Cameras-with-130'-Night-Vision.product.100290772.html
Which was where I got the number, was justhoping for better suggestions.
The 360 degree view is to monitor the large room, and the kitchen at the same time, if it's more cost effective to have multiple standard cameras, that is preferred.
I ended up just getting this. Figured Costco has a good return policy, worth a gamble. If somebody reads this, want to let me know how bad of a decision I just made?
Not really related to video surveillance.
Just pick the right lens. You can look at the data sheet and your planned install location to select the right lens (DORI).
I have Blue Iris, Frigate and DoubleTake (face recognition) in Home Assistant with several of the cameras above. Getting great results.
Either of these would work for your request. Cheap and compatible with Blue Iris. Just plug them into your computers USB port.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Logitech-960-000733-Hd-Webcam-C615/16954486
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-c310-webcam-black/9926783.p?id=1218196190992&skuId=9926783
VMware is overkill, but it's fun.
With VMware you could run BlueIris or iSpy on another VM on another Windows or Linux OS VM, that way if you hate Milestone and want to try something else, you can easily do that.
VMware has a 'snapshot' feature that allows recovery from even the worst OS mistakes; snapshots prevent you having to resinstall the whole OS when an upgrade goes sideways.
If you need to remotely manage a Windows instance, use either Cybelesoft Thinfinity (free HTML5 RDP solution), TeamViewer (free) or GoToMyPC.
Milestone Remote web viewer lets you view/playback video but not manage/control Windows PC or NVR application. I believe you could do that with the SmartClient, but have not tried that.
Some devices allow you to plug in an ethernet cable via USB OTG, but it's device specific. Another option that might work better is a cheap single-board computer running MotionEye OS.
https://www.bandicam.com/how-to-record-computer-for-24-hours/
This may work for you set it up and let it record to a folder on a server you own from there just watch the files from your server using teamviewer or something similar
If you are going to do it yourself, use Ubiquiti Protect with their UNVR... it supports RAID if you need it. Everything is plug and play and you will get auto updates to the NVR and Camera. You can purchase direct from them as well. Just pick the cameras you need, 4k, etc..
https://unifi-network.ui.com/video-security
Axis is great but you really need to go through an installer... And if you don't, you will likely need to at some point when you have issues. You do not get auto updates, and it is not plug and play.
Some update on the MAC and plug-in option that I came across today, if you're still using the same setup.
While Safari fixes might be a while off, the Seamonkey project browser should support the MAC plug in still.
If you already have an Ethernet cable run between these locations that you can use for this purpose, just pick up a set of VGA Extenders:
https://www.amazon.com/VGA-Extender-Repeater-Transmitter-Receiver/dp/B078Y2N7YW/
Wireless should be done as a last resort, as it is significantly more expensive and less reliable than using a wired connection:
https://www.amazon.com/Hagibis-Wireless-Transmitter-Receiver-Streaming/dp/B08XV1KXVP/
I ordered this one off Amazon to replace my failed Hikvision cam:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08R55JFVQ
EmpireTech Home Security Systems 4MP Starlight IR Vari-Focal Eyeball Turret IP Camera English Version IPC-T5442T-ZE White
Good luck, see you on the other side in the Spring!
https://www.amazon.com/Kenuco-Heavy-Gauge-Security-Lockbox/dp/B073DBMNQ1/
https://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-Hardened-Locking-703D/dp/B00004SQLV
For added security, I would add a hasp and padlock (shown above) to the enclosure to prevent theft.
I have this camera, it can record on sd card and it doesn't need internet to record.
To retrieve and see the video, you may need to connect it to a switch with a laptop or an access point with your smart devices.
I appreciate the response.
I just stumbled across this subreddit yesterday. I see now that you guys are into some professional level equipment. And I'm confident your advice is sound.
I just dont have enough experience in this subject matter to feel comfortable jumping into the higher end right off the bat.
My son has convinced me to go Poe over wireless. He volunteers to run the cables through the attic and feed them down the walls.
So ..... right now I'm leaning towards just <strong>Getting One Of These Cheap Camaras</strong> and learning how to make it work.
At least if it turns out to be a bad experience I might at least learn the right questions to ask next time.
Get cameras with an SD card slot and configure them to record to there. When you need to see recordings log in to the individual camera to view them. For live viewing multiple cameras at once you can use something like this
You can use ip/poe converters if you'd want.
https://www.amazon.ca/Linovision-Passive-Port-Extender-Splitter/dp/B07HSN5YSK
But I bet they're made in China.
Yeah, I was looking at the Reolink E1 Pro 4MP HD, because that has dual band wifi, and we'll probably want wall mount capability.
https://www.amazon.com/Reolink-Dual-Band-Security-Wireless-Monitor/dp/B07THQDSBD doesn't seem to have any decent pictures of the base so I don't know if that's possible and I had no idea if Reolink was a feasible option, so thanks for that recommendation.
I may have to work with 2.4ghz, but I've had some trouble connecting cameras to the Ubiquiti Access Points, even when separating the bands so there's a strictly 2.4ghz SSID but I assume that's the fault of the merkury stuff I was attempting to use.
I can work with using an app for initial setup as long as I can run everything off of some FOSS software on a virtual machine once they're connected and push storage off to some hard disks on the server rack.
Which Sonoff stuff are you talking about? Most of the stuff I found was Zigbee.
I have the 5mp version of this.
2.4ghz wifi or wired, RTSP works, Onvif works. Motion Detection via Onvif does not work though, app is free, you just need it to setup the camera than you can delete the app and block the camera from internet with your firewall.
With 10 cameras, I would highly recommend you run wires to most/all of them.
If you just want to get analog video to an IP stream (RTSP) so you can record it on a NVR, get an encoder.
Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Hikvision-1-Channel-Video-Encoder-Stream/dp/B010KNP69G/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=hikvision+encoder&qid=1623442141&sr=8-2
Sorry, yes I mixed up the cameras. You're correct, the G3 Flex cameras are fine, I was thinking about the G4 dome cameras that had some IR issues. I think they were cleared up with the angling of the lens covers though.
Yes when I mention 'panel', I'm talking about the electrical panel cover that can be removed with the 2 screws.
I think I have a new idea for the G4 bullet camera. I can remove the metal panel cover, then buy this Box, use the top only, which has a larger in surface area than the electrical cover, drill 2 holes so that it can attach to where the panel cover used to be, and then drill 2 holes to the top of the plastic cover to attach the G4 Camera. I'd have to paint the cover to be the same color as the house, but I think it should work..
You'll likely need a cam with an SD slot to store the video, unless you want to setup something more complicated.
Something like this Wyze Cam with SD Card
Do you have a need for remote viewing? If so you'll need a network camera with an app.
Just to be clear cameras don't protect anything, they just detect, which in turn can help YOU protect things.
Here you go. I just replaced my qsee one too. Added a purple 2tb hard drive and got cool new features like AI. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WJRYLYR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_E91SGNG3H98RNHC9T9JF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
>Is it possible to connect a bnc camera to just a monitor?
Yes, but if you don't have a monitor with a BNC input, you'll need a BNC converter like this: https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Converter-Composite-S-Video-Adapter/dp/B07TDDJ9GH
>What about a poe camera
Yes, but the method varies depending on the make and model of camera.
I used to run a Wyze cam offline that would record to the SD card and use my phone as a hot spot to connect when back in range, This worked quite well for me previously. To make it solar you would need to have the solar charge some battery and then the Wyze connected to the battery - maybe one of those Solar batteries like this? https://www.amazon.com/VITCOCO-Charger-Portable-Foldable-Waterproof/dp/B088CW79YF/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=solar+panel+usb&qid=1610805718&sr=8-4.
This would be a good option. Also make sure to get a high endurance microsd card with it. Here is a good review of the camera.
Check out https://www.amazon.ca/Detection-Security-eoqo-Battery-Surveillance/dp/B074MYCVKC. It’s available in black or white. It’s like a game camera but smaller footprint. Comes with a rechargeable battery that lasts a month or more but can add an external 5volt battery bank. I use it at my cabin. Hide it in a prop.
I have a cheap IP camera I bought from Amazon, and if I recall correctly its specs work down to -10, but I'm sure I've used it in -25 weather, and I bet it would have no problem in -30. They sell 1080p wifi camera's for $50, which is a heck of a bargain. They can be a bit hard to setup if it's your first IP camera, but once you get it going it works great. The brand is called 'Ctronics'. It's a cheap chinese made, canadian owned brand, but they're IP66 compliant, support ONVIF and infrared night vision, come with usable software, and are of sturdy metal construction. Have been using one for a year.
https://www.amazon.com/Ctronics-Camera-Security-outdoor-Ctipcw-123c720pw/dp/B00LNVL6RQ
I doubt you'll find many camera's openly rated for such low temperatures, and if you do, you'll probably have to pay an arm and a leg for them. $50 for a 1080p wifi camera is low enough that if it does fail it's no big deal, and that if it doesn't fail, it's quite a savings. I don't think electronically, there's not any functional difference between -10f and -30f that would cause failure. Both are pretty darn cold.
Generally people install a home-based security system without voice recording. You need to install a voice receiver for each camera. In many cases, there's no need for recording the voice of burglars and break-in thieves. For your grandma's safety, I think one camera is not enough, a DVR system with indoor & outdoor cameras would be a better choice. But you have to install and set it up for her, and you can view the cameras on your phone instantly. Here's one of our best sellers at Amazon for your $200 budget: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZW63ESC
Gonna be pretty hard to get quality cameras with only $500. Yes, IP cams still record locally to a NVR, analog cameras record to a DVR. Analog is so limited, I could not recommend buying any. IP cams have the quality and clarity you seek. I would look into Reolink IP cameras, which can be purchased on Amazon, something like this.
If DVR has composite output, maybe a cheap wireless video transmitter/receiver kit would work. Also, check out this device from Amazon
When I search Amazon for "SJ4000" basically everything that comes up seems to have a battery life of 90 minutes (like this for example, which is 70). It comes with extra batteries so that you can record longer, but that does me no good because I wouldn't be able to change batteries during a shift.
Thank you very much for that information.
I ended up picking up this unit on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G7QZ41A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I don't get it for a few days yet, but I might try my 802.3af 48w injector this afternoon. I've been scared I would great it!
I see this unit you recommend here on amazon as well https://www.amazon.com/Microsemi-PD-9501G-48VDC-Gigabit-Midspan/dp/B00OT68KF8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1512065388&sr=8-2&keywords=Microsemi+9501
I'm now debating if I should order it as well or try the first unit (:
Thanks again for taking the time to comment
Search Poe injector on Amazon.
TP-LINK TL-PoE150S PoE Injector Adapter, IEEE 802.3af compliant, up to 100 meters (325 Feet) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001PS9E5I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Dx.nCbKMGB97X
Amazon's Choice, nearly 1000 reviews, 4-star, $20.
TRENDnet Gigabit Power over Ethernet (PoE) Injector, Full Duplex Gigabit Speed Supported, Network PoE Devices up to 100 M (328 Ft.), 15.4 Watts, Auto-MDIX In/Out, Plug & Play, TPE-113GI https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007Q87KP2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MA.nCbT5KEKKH
Amazon's Choice, nearly 400 reviews, 4-star, $20.
Among others.
Hopefully I can help. Each camera has a single Ethernet cable run to it. This both powers the camera and also transmits the video stream back. To allow the Ethernet cables to transfer power along the same line, all the cables need to feed back into a PoE switch. Here’s the one I bought which would support up to 7 cameras: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F6DL2FS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This PoE switch then connects to your router via an Ethernet cable as well. This is what allows your home local network to now have access to the video streams from the camera. From here you have two options:
1) Connect a dedicated Network Video Recorder to the router which will “view” those video streams, record the video to an internal HD and provide additional features such as remote viewing, some notifications, etc. There are a bunch on Amazon you could look at. 2) Use your PC as the network video recorder. This is the route I went with. Instead of relying on the software on the NVR box I got to choose my software. I’m using Blue Iris ($60). This lets me fully customize the camera settings, motion alerting, notifications, etc.
There are tons of IR spotlights available on Amazon.. I bought a few 12v mini stand alone IR lights, and put them at different locations then the camera illuminating its field of view. It works great, but keep the IR light from looking towards the camera or actually being in it's field of view.
Examples: (both of which I have used)
Look for a stand-alone LaView Camera, which is actually a rebranded Hikvision with decent firmware and US based support and warranty. You could also get similar Dahua or Hikvision on Amazon but beware of knockoffs and unauthorized reseller shipping those with Chinese firmware. These cameras support recording to FTP and NAS, are outdoor proof either bullet or dome, do motion detection. You will have to come up with a power solution, these use 12v 1Amp or 2Amps tops.
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https://www.amazon.com/LaView-Bullet-Outdoor-MicroSD-Weather/dp/B06ZYRZSW7/
A year or two ago we tested similar camera on 10 000mA battery pack and we could get over 24h. Recommend you to rather get 2 cheap cameras and battery pack's.
For a monthly fee you can get recording to the cloud. Just make sure there is wifi connection for both cameras. Also there's app, so you get notification on motion detection.
Thanks again everyone. I purchased 2 of these and it worked great. As long as I set the display to mirror it worked fine and easy to setup.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VNFGKVK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Lots of turret camera's share that design, Reolink, Hikvision, Annke... most will record audio too, it's a pretty normal feature.
Here's one that I have in my collection -- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RKKMGCQ/
That's a video conferencing camera. It uses the VISCA protocol over rs232. It might support other stuff.
That joystick uses rs485 and pelco P and a few other protocols, but not visca.
You could get this joystick:
https://www.amazon.com/RCC4000-Joystick-Controller-Go-Electronic/dp/B073XHB5QN
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it depends on what you're trying to do. This is the sub for videosurveillance, like security cameras, not video conferecing.
You really need to decide which you're trying to do, look at spec sheets, and buy something. If you want something cheap, look for old used pelco gear on ebay.
Yah, I live 2 minutes away, I'll be installing it, taking care of it etc. I want to set it up on a 24/7 monitor in her room so if she thinks she hears something she can look at the camera and check. That's really what this is for - she's hearing and seeing stuff, but there's no evidence of anything. In the future I could always get her internet setup and remotely access these Reolink cameras.
This is what I'm looking at it.
If you had a spare PC, could run Blue Iris, XProtect Essential, etc (you'd need a switch that can supply PoE power to cameras).
> Are there are any brands or setups you can recommend.
If you go with cameras using the ONVIF logo, at least you know they're claiming to follow a standard and you can swap out a camera for another brand as needed.
The cameras I'm referring to are these ones
Amcrest 4MP pan tilt... It has external speaker and mic inputs just use the external equipment of your choice. Should be some sound compression settings in the camera too to up the quality.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J224T84/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_vQJfFb8QX61DN
That's MSRP... I know these work for commercial use and the company I used to work for would get them for around $700. There are cheaper Chinese encoders out there I'm sure would work if price is an issue.
I just noticed you posted one. I also see this one. Amazon makes it easier to return if it doesn't work. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CBMZ24P/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_0DJfFbEZA6SB2
I can't vouch for these just can for the Marshal units because I've personally used them in the most demanding environments, often inside hot enclosures running 24/7 for 5 plus years with no failures. Never seen one die.
I have a Reolink RLC-410W ($59) and just added an Argus 2 model ($79, Amazon). Both are WiFi, record onto micro-SD, have IR Illumination, and accessible through either the mobile or desktop app. The Argus has an LED that can be activated or deactivated.
The 410w actually caught decent footage of our neighbor’s friend porch pirating us. We got our stuff back.
Between the two, the Argus is more discreet. The black silicone cover I just bought for it makes it even more so by making it easier to blend it into the shadows.
Reolink Outdoor Security Camera Wireless Rechargeable Battery 1080P Video Night Vision Motion Detection, 2-Way Audio, Waterproof Support Google Assistant, Cloud Storage | Argus 2 + Solar Panel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GBRV8W5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_8jwmEbSN0EQ28
This oneis even nicer. The light will track their movements. Makes them think someone is there shining a spot light on them.
That's strange, it's possible you received a defective unit or have a wiring or range issue, especially if you are having reliability issues across different brands. Also, I think there are models that work over an existing network (I would never recommend these) and some that require dedicated wire. I've only ever used the "dedicated wire" ones. For multiple displays use a "one to many" transmitter like the one I linked. Then use a separate receiver for each display (see below). A cheap unmanaged switch can be used to network all these extenders, just keep all of these devices isolated from any existing network.
https://www.amazon.com/gofanco-395ft-1080p-HDMI-Extender/dp/B07JN7R9GS
Arlo Go Mobile HD Security Camera with T-Mobile Data Plan | Cellular LTE Outdoor Camera for Trial | Game Hunting | Parking Lot | Construction Site | Home Security Remote Monitoring https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07254ZY8W/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QWXCDbE61KMN9
WDR is great for certain situations sadly not this one, what you need is more IR lighting. Here’s a quick video about WDR https://www.axis.com/en-ca/technologies/forensic-wdr . There are some cameras that will work in very low light conditions the Axis cameras with their lightfinder technology is great or the starlight cameras are amazing failing that something like https://www.amazon.com/Univivi-Infrared-Illuminator-Waterproof-Security/dp/B01G6K407Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=ir+illuminator&qid=1568064140&s=gateway&sr=8-4 would help a lot , try a magazine with a face on it put it on your vehicle so you can see how good it looks. Though you don’t seem to have a definition problem just a lighting issue. Hope this is some help to you.
no, just motion. Weatherproof, yes.
Sounds like you need this
You require a large storage space, so a hard drive is needed to record the video. Like this wired security system with 1TB HD https://www.amazon.com/ZOSI-Security-Recorder-Weatherproof-Smartphone/dp/B00MP57IOY?ref_=bl_dp_s_web_9540157011. It can record footage for about a week. Or you can choose camera with cloud service feature, but it may need extra subscription fee.
As u/Kiggz wrote you require a POE injector of some sort you can buy single injectors that midspan you linked would work perfectly but a Small POE switch would probably be the same price and give you some room to expand. Something like https://www.amazon.com/BV-Tech-Port-Switch-Ports-Uplink/dp/B005GAATOG/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543761376&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=poe+switch+8+port&dpPl=1&dpID=41GlB%2Bo1-DL&ref=plSrch
Those cameras do not have a high power requirement
In the data sheet it says max 4w typical 2.5 ( always calculate for max to be safe ) not a lot of draw awesome cameras as well you can hide them anywhere.
Every big security camera company sells PTZ(pan tilt zoom) cameras.There are also tons of PTZ cameras designed for broadcasting. If you are looking for a camera just for the pictures I would say to look for a broadcast type camera. But if it is for security then get a security camera. It sounds simple but you can end up paying more and not getting what you need.
PTZOptics 2MP Full HD Indoor PTZ Camera, 20x Optical Zoom https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BI8EEP4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Ukg8Bb39MGMSA
This is what you are looking for but it is quite expensive. Obviously get what is in your budget but with something like this you get your 20x zoom and good picture to see and share your video. It also has hdmi hookup where a security camera would not.
Edit - I've done a little more research and PoE is certainly the way I'm looking to go.
So, as a hypothetical, if I were to purchase this system (or a system similar to it) -
https://www.amazon.com/ZOSI-Security-Surveillance-Megapixel-Weatherproof/dp/B07CVB292L
Would I be able to purchase a different camera entirely, one that is wifi enabled and has a solar power source, and hook it up to it? What would that functionality be called? I would imagine it is an IP camera, could something like that be connected to this NVR?
Thanks
thanks for your response,
would I have to get something like two of these (he has two restaurants- one at each restaurant and link them together)? amazon link 1
ring and a couple arlo's are your best/easiest bet. Kv said, these aren't security, just evidence.
These cheap bastards (I paid <$9) are awesome,
For your budget you could get a 16CH ReoLink NVR and 8 cameras for like $800. Then you could purchase additional cameras around $60 a pop. You’d have to upgrade the hard drive from the stock 3TB to a 4TB and add a second 4TB, but even then, 10 days is tough with 16 cameras recording at 4/5MP quality.
I have about a dozen of their cameras and am incredibly satisfied with the image quality.
Check em out though.
Reolink 16 Channel Video Surveillance System, 5MP 16CH NVR with 3TB HDD, 8 PoE Security Camera 4MP for 24/7 Recording& Remote Home Monitoring System RLK16-410B8 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C6KUKMY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_JQ.vBb8XHATMA
I use Sighthound, it's easy to use and has a wizard for setting up cameras. The program runs on your PC and you can connect cameras using RTSP or HTTP protocols (another words they use a localy generated stream across your network. ZMODO cannot run using anything but their software, I would return them if you can. I purchased wireless IP cameras from wansview and they work great!
EDIT: (These are the items i have for my security system setup. )
Links:
Wansview Camera
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075K7RDHL
SightHound Software
I know this is way cheaper than the ones you suggested, but how bad is something like this for my needs?
Don't do it that way. Buy F-Type compression fittings, and use adapters to go BNC, like these:
https://www.amazon.com/Conwork-10-Pack-Female-Connector-Adapter/dp/B01L6GTSLS/
This cuts down on errors and bad connections. Simplifies the entire job.
So, I am finding a few things that contradict your statements.
The receiver can encode video up to 720 horizontal. That would put it at D1 resolution. I have seen prior video myself that is already recorded on the DVR and it is definitely above CIF. I wanted to confirm the DVR is D1 maximum.
As far as the existing Ethernet, these are free lines (not network connected). That would allow an analog signal to travel on the bonded pair with converters (although with shorter maximum transmission length).
Any suggestions on good/cheap D1 (or higher if supported) cameras?
Hi! I ended up settling on https://www.amazon.com/HiKam-S6-Intelligent-Detection-Recording/dp/B075MDZWZH/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1520392683&sr=1-2&keywords=hikam Took me a little finagling but have it working with OBS on a Centos box and streaming to Youtube :)
the user agreement on the YI...anything is shady AF. People need to stay away from those. The user agreement is scary af to be as blatant as it is. Yet people still accept it...like.yeah..whatever.
EDIT: https://www.amazon.com/YI-Camera-Wireless-Security-Surveillance/dp/B01AW9494Q/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1520124313&sr=8-19&keywords=yi+security+camera view the slides that are just txt of the agreement..the last 2 in particular.
I recently installed these dome cameras and was honestly surprised with how small they were. They were a little bit bigger than the size of a baseball but were small regardles. https://www.amazon.com/Amcrest-Security-Quadbrid-1920x1080-AF-2MDT-28B/dp/B074KRNCV6/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1515648750&sr=8-4&keywords=AHD+dome+camera
I don't think dome cameras are any bigger than Nest cameras, typical bullet cameras are normally bigger but these dome cameras have gotten a lot smaller nowadays.
My advice: buy these cameras and any CVI/TVI/AHD DVR if 1080p is good for you. I don't think Arlo and Nest have anything above 1080p.