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I am also not a lawyer, but as a software developer who uses FLOSS software as a regular part of their job I do have a pretty good working knowledge of free software licenses, and I can say that these claims don't make any sense. Inherent to FLOSS licenses is the ability to copy, modify, and redistribute changes to code so licensed, so having contributed code to a GPL project you've inherently given everyone else the right to use your code subject to the license. It wouldn't be a violation of the license to incorporate that code back into Linux even if he did somehow remove his code from the project. While it's perfectly fine for a GPL licensed project to remove code, they cannot retroactively deny people use of previous revisions of code.
The only exception that I can think of in this case would be if the code contributed was not legally contributed (e.g. breaking an employment agreement or containing unlicensed proprietary code), but that's essentially an entirely different case, as the legal issues would likely invalidate the contribution. Though, of course, I don't know if that case has ever actually occurred in any real project.
As for "", they claim to be a lawyer but have provided no proof, and most lawyers don't give out unsolicited (and almost certainly wrong) legal advice like this guy. Also, check out their email host. Dude's posting from redchan.it (referencing a site from a Law and Order episode), a domain from [HELLA NSFW] cock.li which also hosts such prestigious email domains as dicksinhisan.us getbackinthe.kitchen, rape.lol, and n****.rs, underneath a banner ad for the "Date Rape Appreciation Station.. So, you know, maybe anon Channers aren't great sources of legal advice.
>Readable for humans
But the example canary tells nothing about what is canaried. (E: The example proof is flat out useless as a canary. If the real canaries would have other information then maybe an example that has those information would be preferable.)
What I think is needed is some easy way to select which types of orders and warrants you want to tell you haven't received or complied with. Much like the list on cock.li's canary.
Also there should be more than the date up to which it is valid but also a date when you should at the latest except a new canary. Again, the cock.li canary specifies when it should be updated.
Also personally I feel like more short term canaries would be more useful. Instead of saying that you haven't received anything this month it would be per day or at most few days. This would make it easier to make educated guesses about what and how many the service has received.
And we don't just need a standardized canary format but also some service where you can see statuses of the standardized canaries and possibly get an RSS feed of them. It's a lot of wasted effort for everyone to check every service's canary individually. Since the messages are signed they can be served by anyone.
There used to be a website called canarywatch but when I try to connect to it now I only get TLS handshake errors.
Cock.li is my preferred email provider. The owner is quite serious about privacy and quite a stand up guy in general. I've used cock.li since 2014 and met the owner at the 33c3.
over Tor: http://cockmailwwfvrtqj.onion/auth/register > Cock.li is your go-to solution for professional E-mail and XMPP addresses. Since 2013 cock.li has provided stable E-mail services to an ever-increasing number of users. Cock.li allows registration and usage using Tor and other privacy services (proxies, VPNs) and is run by "some dude", not a business. I use this E-mail service personally so I have a vested interest in keeping it up, stable, and secure.
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If a service provider isn't zero knowledge then your expectations of privacy cannot be legally met no matter what they claim. Until someone makes a lavabit clone if not the dark mail initiative follows through, then quite frankly it doesn't matter what email service provider you use because you're fucked either way. In the meantime, you can try using gpg or hosting your own.
It is only possible to join via invitation codes given by existing users of the service. It used to be possible to register but they removed that option a long time ago, as far as I know. :/
I almost never use email addresses to sign up on reddit; if I do they're cock.li throwaways. I also wipe reddit cookies when I'm done. The rest of your post relies on some pretty impressive scraping at a scale that I don't think they could handle. And most notably, none of it can be tied to me irl. Reddit cannot scrape my browser history, it cannot access documents on my computer, it has no way to know who I am. Compartmentalization, friend.
My main issues with PM was that it's IMAP/POP3 support is via a bridge, so installing another application, whereas with other providers I could avoid it while also being cheaper (Mailbox and Posteo cost me a euro a month each, mailed them 25 euros each when I signed up, PM is a lot more).
- Mailbox.org (using my own domain), , used for work.
- Two Posteo.de accounts, one for friends, one for purchases.
- A tutanota and proton email address for registering to sites I actively use. Mostly use Tuta, Proton for second accounts. Edit: also a https://cock.li/ address.
- Self hosted 10 minute mail like site, under it's own domain, for one time use signups etc.
Edit: In case somebody asks why both Mailbox and Posteo, I plan on moving my Posteo accounts over to my Mailbox.org (without using my custom domain) as I get 3 aliases there, I signed up to Posteo a while before Mailbox. I'm also looking into moving everything over to FastMail, as I believe you get hundreds of aliases for a few dollars a month.
Some people include recent headlines from newspapers as a proof. example
I've also heard of people including the most recent bitcoin block or something like that but it's not really as simple to verify.
I love me some cock.li haha. I understand Vincent having to do that tho I guess.
I've ran a shitload of nmap, sqlmap, and Raccoon scans from DigitalOcean VPS that I spin up and then Destroy/kill a few hours later after I'm done.
You can also just go lurk HackForum or RaidForums and find sketch hosting companies to buy cheap VPS from.
https://vpsdedic.ru/ will let you for sure
Yes, but Protonmail requires phone verification - which means they know who you are. That's a non-starter.
The only two email services that I could find that simply let you pick a username and password and that's it are cock.li (new registrations are temporarily closed) and Yandex. I'm not concerned about encryption, as I can do that manually using GNUPG with *any* email carrier.
I'm satisfied with cock.li as a burner email. It was a simple non-frustrating signup and everything is clean and relatively barebones. I would recommend it.
It does not encrypt incoming/outgoing messages that aren't already TLS, so it isn't the greatest email to send potentially sensitive info over. I would recommend Paraniod for that, but they're invite only so you need a staring email to get setup anyway
Oh and yea, the domain names are really based.
You can use the same throwaway email each time. Just do this simple trick
after you get banned add a "." to the email and it will be read as a completely different email, but still go to the same inbox
https://cock.li or https://protonmail.com is good for making emails, they don't require a phone number to sign up.
https://cock.li/ is an anonymous mail service that "allows registration and usage using Tor and other privacy services." What you are seeing is an email client error message regarding a handling exception. Are using you're using any Peer 2 Peer (P2P) software such as uTorrent or accessing P2P websites? Maybe use TOR browser and OnionMail? What email client(s) do you use? Anything non-standard?
Your title "Odd messages popping up on my PC" says a lot. If it was me and I was experiencing an unusual popup, I would want to ensure my computer wasn't compromised.
You can get free help in removing any existing malware at the Malwarebytes forum: https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/9573-im-infected-what-do-i-do-now/
> Huh, I didn't even bother reading the rest of the story, surely, has to be able to figure out if it caused so much butthurt. Instead I voted third party and I am a guy but I can also recommend https://cock.li.
You can find more recommendations on alternativeTo. Other free plans I looked at before my recent mail switch were from zoho, which doesnt support imap, disroot, whoose website looks janky in my opinion, and cock.li, for witch you need an invite.
You purchased an invite to Cock.li ? If you give in to such scams, don't complain about being... scammed. Invites are given out for free by people you know, that is if you manage to get one, which is next to impossible.
There is zero reason to open an account at Cock.li. If you're interested in security and privacy, select a serious provider, not an irresponsible prankster.
>Thanks for the unneeded wall of text.
No thanks deserved for your insulting attitude. My "wall of text" (otherwise called detailed facts and arguments, within civilized circles) was very much needed indeed, since you've at last told us you do have a cock.li account. At least if we are to believe you.
Now since the OP question was : exactly what is cock.li, and it seems we've got hold of a user, maybe you could try to provide some information to the people reading this thread, who obviously have an interest in cock.li ?
Such as : what features does it offer exactly ? The website does not even bother explaining. How is the user interface and ease of use ? There's not a single screenshot on the site. How reliable is it ? What do you use it for ? How do people react to that wonderful domain name ? What does it do better than others, if anything ? How is the security, privacy and anonymity ? Is there any support at all ?
And something which will interest a lot of people : are you really allowed to give invites ? How many ? What are the conditions ? Do you give out any ? Not that I'm personally interested in one, mind you. But others might.
You've at least said that it's not a serious service in your opinion, and it's blocked by many spam filters.
So in fact, you're confirming my poor opinion of the service. But you still dislike my saying as much. One has to wonder.
It's not a new buzz. It's an Internet meme which refuses to die. The guy even has the gall to write, on his website :
>Invites are here! Find any existing cock.li user to be invited.
>
>https://cock.li/register
Of course, there's no link behind the "here" and there's no way to "find" a cock.li user to get an invite.
Jeez watching this made my IQ drop. Some of what he said was factual (and also true about literally every legal email provider ever), but some was just ridiculous. People just accept crap like this as truth at face value? He just says a bunch of stuff that barely borders on and then makes wild conclusions that don't match up. And he thinks "seeing" an IP is the same as "logging" an IP address *facepalm*
"Proton's claims about not logging IP addresses was complete bullcrap..."
lol wut.
Anyway, can't say anymore or my brain will hurt. u/sushibest can you please tell me what "problems" (even though most of what he says is either misunderstood or just flat out false) applies to Proton but does NOT apply to cock.li...? Would love to know.
Appeal was a success. Just letting people know here that using offensive emails for your account from cock.li will get your account susspeneded apparently. Also apparently people can report you for your email name despite that not being publically visible which is really odd.
your own service; but if you dont have one "AS I KNOW" cock.li's hidden service ( http://rurcblzhmdk22kttfkel2zduhyu3r6to7knyc7wiorzrx5gw4c3lftad.onion/ )
Protonmail is not that safe. It is better than clearnet email providers i suppose.
Cock.li/cummallover are better than proton, because their admin proved it already he is one stubborn motherfucking who is not cooperating to the law when requested. His servers in Romania were already seized twice in the past. However the servers were encrypted and nothing important was revealed.
cock.li but you need to get invited to make an account.
I don't think there is any site that allows free users to signup through Tor with no limitations, it results in way too much abuse, and abuse that is a lot worse than just sending some spam.
I use https://cock.li/ , it is a joke email but actually good and it respects your privacy.
Only thing is that you need to know somebody who has invitation codes, that regenerates every six months.
I don't have any invite code, sorry.
Here's a piece of advice I can give
Firstly, don't look for a private email service: there is none. the email protocol was never designed with privacy in mind. Every email provider out there that I know still has to turn over user data if law enforcement comes knocking. this is usually not an issue, but in case you want to be the next Edward Snowden then don't use email.
Both protonmail and <strong>cock.li</strong> have turned over user data to comply with warrents. That is no fault of them, and in an ideal world it's definitely the right thing to do
However, I will note that protonmail asks for your god darn phone number on sign up. Like seriously? You're losing points on the privacy aspect before I even finish creating my account!
If you truely want to be private, then I would highly suggest using burner emails - temporary emails used only once. There's lots of good sites out there such as guerillamail which provide one-use email addresses.
For long term correspondence, then I'd suggest using signal. Even if the FBI comes knocking the most the can do is provide your last login time.
TL:DR - Email just plain sucks
PS: Don't use gmail if you care about privacy. It's literally ran by a company whose entire business model is selling you data
thing is, if you're really privacy concerned, you should use sth. like mullvad vpn. it's just that they're one of the few providers which make honest claims, same goes if you compare protonmail and that stuff to something like cock.li. There are so many companies out there who offer vpn and/or mail services who just make bold claims right on their homepage, making the user believe they were super privacy concerned and there wasn't any possibility their data was leaked/logged.
Cock.li never claimed to. However, proton did. Before they handed the data on the env as the authorities requested, they claimed to never log your IP addresses and yiddi-yadda. They changed it after these events happened. And there's a reason why: They lied, as simple as that.
Cock.li didn't. My point is don't say you're doing anything privacy-wise when they were not.
Protonmail is litteraly no different to any other email service provider... they all "follow the laws of the land" in their own country lol.. and then abc groups will make requests through said countries abc group if outside countries want info ....
... no different.
I would say cock.li is a good email provider tbh. They actually have a tor site you can use, and when requested from gov/fbi/agenycs they post the request for all to see and do not help them or will activetly warn said user and have no logs to give... and tell them that.
Read this privacy friendly email how can I trust you section its possible for email provider like protonmail, tutanota and etc can get your emails before they are encrypted on their servers.
There is some post some where from protonmail or tutanota that also explains this but I could not find it atm.
Cock.li is cool but I wouldn't store anything there. It often goes online, and it's not end to end encryption. I use it as a throwaway email to register in places. Will check out the rest.
Use thunderboard and cock.li Thunderbird makes it easy to generate PGP keys and sign emails. I dont think that they read or scan my emails, but anything important is encrypted and I know I'm the only one with the keys. Thunderbird will also integrate with your outlook and gmail to enable encryption there.
Protonmail is good too, and I havae no reason to not trust them, Treat keys like dogs. I'm the only one that do the feed and caring
Try creating a protonmail over tor, they’ll ask for a phone verification or a email verification. They also block temp mail domains from email verification. https://cock.li is the best I know, they are free, they don’t ask for any info and they have a bunch of edgy domains you can use like „420blaze.it“ and many more that might be a little too edgy.
Some sites, like Wattpad, will block generated emails. I tried to register with guerillamail, 10minutesmail, and temp-mail to no avail.
If that the case, I usually use https://cock.li/
Why don't I create secondary gmail or yahoo? Phone numbers verification, https://cock.li/ doesn't need that.
Don't know but some email providers collect and save some information when using a desktop client.
>IMAP and SMTP logs can include: When an E-mail is sent, the username, destination e-mail address, and information about the connection (like IP address, quota information) When you connect to IMAP, what IP address and username (if any) you are logging in with, and if that login was successful.
<em>^(Cock.li)</em> ^(Privacy Policy)
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Depends. You can get a bulletproof server for Bitcoin (go with Monero for erecting a server with maximum girth of services) and not have any paper trail. This is the most reliable setup, short of going to third world country, selling your golden bolo tie clasp and anonymously setting up a low-maintenance cabin with a prepaid connection, self-destructing server, robot guards, and solar cells.
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Reasonably simple, I don't have it installed on my current system, but here's a config file I once used. Though this was with "cock.li" as the mail provider which I *do not recommend*, hence you'll need to update the credentials to match whichever provider you choose to use.
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I use a site called https://cock.li/ for junk email. Yes I get it this sounds like it isn't an email site but I swear it really is. It's free and takes seconds to setup a new email and there's multiple domains you can select from since the default (@cock.li) isn't necessarily appropriate for obvious reasons. Note most of the selectable domains aren't socially acceptable but there is a couple that are and wouldn't really stand out as all that weird.
Edit: also I've never used this in any professional aspect. I just got tired of junk coming to my main emails and found this so now I make a separate email for every single site/account and use this for it. Could use Gmail and make one specific junk email but for whatever reason I prefer this way. Possibly because it also does make it so that if I use similar passwords for sites then each email is separate. I actually use separate emails and passwords for everything so absolutely nothing is the same lol.
Commercial VPNs are bullshit, their only practical use is to get around geoblocking. Some probably happily sell your data, and the ones that don't won't have much defence against a government asking for it. The key to keeping your stuff secure is to host it somewhere out of reach from western governments, e.g. Russia. It worked for Snowden and his own freedom. How and where you're exactly supposed to do it, I have no idea.
This is a cool place to get an email account from.
All smartphones are a privacy nightmare. Like, a nightmare this scary. That article is from 2 years ago, they've probably turned it up to 11 by now. It only discusses GPS data too, there's a loooot more your phone can find out about you. Only solution here is to get a Symbian phone and browse Reddit using WAP or something, maybe a 90s Nokia if you're feeling hardcore. Even then, you're only stopping the surveillance happening on your phone, not the network's side.
TL;DR: Burn all wireless technology and go live in a forest if you want privacy.
cock.li worked for me... get a good laugh each time i open my email too haha
I am not endorsing the site in anyway, and honestly don't know too much about it... I just know that when I was playing around with thunderbird, these email addresses are among the ones I was about to get set up and working. good luck! share if you find a better answer to this please, I'd be interested
cock.li isnt a scam, but cockli is an anonymous email provider mostly used by 4chan nazis paranoid about their privacy because google and every other email provider is a ZOG conspiracy designed to destroy the white male
You can use the keemail.me domain, which is offered by Tutanota as well. I hope "ki" has not some sexual meaning in Norwegian, Swedish or Danish...
Anyway, I think you're vastly exaggerating the issue. A company not hiring a candidate, because they don't like the sound of his email provider's name ? Really ?
I would understand it if you were speaking of cock.li, which is an actual email provider with a deliberately obscene name. But Tutanota ? All sorts of weird names are used by Internet companies nowadays. You don't have to be called Wolfgang's Nice Email Gmbh to be taken seriously anymore.
Also, I don't even understand what you're saying. Tuta means honk in your language ? Like honking a car's horn ? How is that a problem ? How is that childish, or sexual ? What language is it, by the way ?
>Throw money at something I have not even tried.
Meaning, in that case, 1,20 € for one month of Premium plan, which will allow you to try it with a custom domain...
> ProtonMail is owned by feds.
No it's not. Also, there are no "feds" in Scandinavia. No Scandinavian country is a federal one. The American Federal Bureau of Investigation has no authority outside of the United States.
Getting I completely Anonymous ProtonMail account is a pain, but it's certainly possible. How I did it was doing the following:
Start registration over Tor.
When it came to verification, I tried giving a brand new @cock.li email address, but it was blocked. (I didn't try using another email domain like @airmail.cc on the https://cock.li website, but that's another point.)
When that didn't work, I went to https://gmx.com to create an email address to try. They ask for a lot of information, but just give complete junk info about your name, DoB, address, etc UNTIL they wanted to verify you either by phone or by email. I went with email and gave the cock.li account.
The GMX account was verified, and I used it during the ProtonMail signup. And it worked.
I had what was considered an anonymous ProtonMail account. It took about 5 minutes start to finish, and it is certainly inconvenient as all hell. Tutanota seems to be a lot less restrictive from my experience, but there's a review process when the account is first setup, so you can't send emails.
As for phone numbers, maybe Twilio. I use junk MySudo numbers for some things, but that's iOS only.
The owner, Vincint Canefield, is pretty awesome though. He literally moved to the middle of bumfuck no where Mongolia to get away from US LE reach and they don't comply with subpoena requests, https://cock.li/transparency/
>Cock.li has not had a successful demand for user information since 2017, thanks in large part to better education of law enforcement that contact cock.li. However, it is our intention to operate cock.li as transparent as possible. To accomplish this Cock.li publishes communication with law enforcement including or regarding a successful demand or order for user information. All of this information is published on the transparency page.
FairEmail is just a client, so it’ll work with anything that supports IMAP, such as https://cock.li
If you do that, and someone sends you an email that isn’t PGP encrypted, then your email provider can read your email.
Just use the official ProtonMail app?
Yes, cock.li has been working well for quite a while. Thumbs up.
With regard to setting up you own email server, this may not be a good solution for anonymity as you would need to provide identification for the purpose of acquiring the domain and paying for the server. I believe any anonymous or shared server would end up in your emails being blocked and flagged as spam everywhere.
Do you know of any secure and anonymous way of hosting your own usable email server?
I see. However, discussing about anonymity of VPNs is opening a can of worms. And then discussing about how to anonymously pay for it is opening another one.
I think for the purpose of this query, if someone requires an anonymous email service that could be operated off-the-shelf, one shall stick to cock.li, ctemplar.com or onionmail.info
This dude/site has been around for a good while - started as a joke - but its legit.
Otherwise best thing is to run your own server. Its not insanely difficult to do.
The only systems I know for sure are tutanota.com and cock.li
There is also onionmail.info, which will get you a .onion address and a @onionmail.info address. This is a hidden service with a gateway to the clearnet. This means that your address and server are actually behind Tor, but they provide a gateway to the clearnet so that you can email with the regular internet users.
Proton is not anonymous as you will be asked for a donation or a telephone number if you attempt to signup from behind Tor. This is true even for their own hidden service.
I didn’t study much about privacy, but I like cock.li
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It's free. It does not require a phone number or other redundant information during registration. It has a very minimal Webmail-based web interface, it can also be configured in any email client, for example, Thunderbird
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It should be noted that I use mail only for registrations on different resources, for such a correspondence I do not need it.
im late to the thread but for anybody out there checking this far down the front page u should know that nigge.rs is owned by this webmail service https://cock.li/ so u can get free email addresses for that domain
that domain and a couple other good ones
To the best of my knowledge, your best options are OnionMail and cock.li
For your privacy not to be compromised you need the ability to create the account using Tails or Tor and not being required to provide any information.
Tutanota also complies with the above, but you can only use it through is web portal, so you cannot integrate this provider with your own client side encryption.
Both OnionMail and cock.li will allow you to communicate with their servers using POP via Tor circuits, so you can use PGP encryption in your email client.
OnionMail goes one step further because you HAVE TO create the account using a hidden service and it DOES NOT allow you to communicate with the POP server WITHOUT using Tor, so it forces you to be disciplined.
Thanks for you're answer, can you give one more advice please, so here is the scenario I'm trying to apply :
1-connecting with Tor (Tails)
2- get in the links of my drives (and bookmarks), in this point google could match between me (user of Tor) and the real me (the one who they know everything about him)
3- I Copy my documents (and my bookmarks) into a new platform with a hidden email (cock.li or something like that)
4- Meanwhile Google is collecting all the information they could get from this section of work.
5- I will use Tails so when I reboot I wouldn't leave any traces of my last section.
6-I reconnect to Tor, I use my hidden email to connect anonymously to my documents and bookmarks, so google can't recognize me anymore.
So please help me, is that correct or am I messing something here ?
/u/savingfluffybunnies is exactly right except they do have an onion link at http://cockmailwwfvrtqj.onion. Also, they do not require javascript on their website.... They also offer STARTTLS over tor using a client like Thunderbird with the TorBirdy extension. All the info you need is posted at https://cock.li/server
I'd like to add.
Instead of a protonmail account you can use a https://cock.li account. They have a hidden service here: http://cockmailwwfvrtqj.onion/
Physical OpSec is /as/ important as your online OpSec. Be smart and think of ever action and the possible consequences of each one.
Just like above, never take your phone to new places. Always use a burner laptop if you are going to blow. Scrub the information before hand. Work out how all the information can be linked back to you. As the company will want to investigate.
Even doing this post has the implication that someone might see it and might know something is up. Just look at the Hilary emails. With the admin posting on Reddit asking for help. Everything can be correlated. Timing is key. Only you can know when is a good time.
Good luck. Stay safe.
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