You folks might wanna look at Twister. http://twister.net.co/ This is a peer to peer platform that uses blockchain for indexing. No you don't have to interact with crypto in any way, it's just a way to get a realtime peered database.
Each user account only uses a few bytes so it's not like it's a lot to download or anything.
Ongoing project, but it's impossible to censor and impossible to shut down, and it's open source.
It's been obvious for a while that Twitter needs to be replaced. Besides the potential censorship, their nasty habit of turning on 3rd party developers deserves nothing but hate.
It looked for a while that App.net would be the answer, but nobody wanted to pay for a gated community version of Twitter.
It's starting to look like Twister might be a real alternative, but it needs volunteers to get behind it and push to make it into something workable for mainstream users.
Ok, but how do you find who is sharing the content?
If you look at http://twister.net.co/:
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The entire point is that the end-user is NOT known by design.
If I see someone actually banned from Twitter as a direct cause of the blocklist as per these conditions, then I've got no choice other than to dupe Randi's shitty code and use their own medicine against them.
They want a war?
Alternately, we should seriously just latch onto an alternative. I continue to implore people to decentralize EVERYTHING:
reminder that https://sealion.club/ and http://freezepeach.xyz exist for your microblogging needs.
Or if you want to make a GNU Social site like those that can communicate with them over the network, let me know, we can start making that happen.
Or if we're all ready to start moving over to full unfettered, uncensored, decentralized posting Twister is definitely an option on everything but mobile.
Something like this would be the way to go.
We need to contribute code to the development, however, to allow for easy front ends for noobs used to Twitter (so they don't have to install and run an app, for example) and/or get the ball rolling on iOS/Android development for it.
> GNU Linux-libre 4.17-gnu sources and tarballs are now available at > <http://www.fsfla.org/selibre/linux-libre/download/releases/4.17-gnu/>. > It didn't require any deblobbing changes since -rc7-gnu. Binaries are > expected to show up over the next few days. > > > The greatest news is that the driver for Dreamcast Yamaha AICA sound > hardware is no longer cleaned up: the firmware for it is Free Software, > and Jason Self's upcoming linux-libre-firmware release will have it. > > No other significant changes were made, just the usual assortment of > adjustments. > > > The codename -ENOTEMPTY celebrates that, after 10 days of truckers' > strike that, despite broad support from the population including > myself, led to shortages of fuel and many other products all over > Brazil, I could finally refuel my car on Friday. > > > For up-to-the-minute news, join us on #linux-libre of irc.gnu.org > (Freenode), or follow me (@lxoliva) on Twister <http://twister.net.co/>, > Secure Scuttlebutt, GNU social at social.libreplanet.org, Diaspora* at > pod.libreplanetbr.org or pump.io at identi.ca. Check my web page (link > in the signature) for direct links.
> Be Free! with GNU Linux-libre.
If you like Quitter, you might want to have a look at Twister, pretty much a Twitter clone like Quitter, but it's entirely P2P so every user is the ultimate host of their own content.
Also, you might want to give Hubzilla a look at, based off the old Friendica codebase but they've cleaned up the UI, cleared out a lot of cruft from the codebase and they've also added support for so called 'decentralised accounts' so you can migrate your account between instances of Hubzilla, among other cool things. You can also post and import posts from GNU Social and pump.io accounts in Hubzilla too.
>And yeah, it's gonna kill twitter.
Couldn't have come at a better time, too. There's a blockchain-based Twitter alternative called Twister right now that looks to be almost ready for prime-time.
I agree that Freenet seems to fit the goals of Meganet quite well. I don't understand how the blockchain fits into the vision - it seems a poor place to store files. Maybe it's used for a naming service like Twister does. In that system the names are stored in the blockchain but message data is stored in the DHT.
Have you tried twister?
I'm building it on my Gentoo box right now. It looks like it might be a good replacement for twitter. Fully open source, designed to be censorship resistant and secure.
No At writing The last release was on August 1, 2015 The last commit 25 Sep 2015
He hasn't updated ~~the website's download page for a while, but I don't think that is a good indication of a project's vitality~~ most of the website since 2013, but the github and blog are both still active.
Wouldn't it be better for Namecoin if more people would run a full node?
Also, let's assume a decentralized reddit would be built. And with decentralized I do not mean like https://frizbee.co/, but like http://twister.net.co/. Now let's say Onename accounts would be used. If the API would be used, then each installation would request each user of each post and comment. To prevent requesting the users over and over again you would start caching or storing the users on each installation. Essentially this is like copying the search index db from the resolver. Wouldn't it make sense to run a project like the resolver for each installation?
Edit: even if you would run a 'normal' centralized website using the accounts of Onename, wouldn't it make more sense to run a resolver yourself so you would not have the delay of requesting the API?
There's decentralised social media already. https://joindiaspora.com/ for example. Als there's a lot of active IRC servers, Teamspeak, Usenet, Jabber, http://twister.net.co (P2P chat) etc...
But everybody is just using centralised WWW services.
>Free Speech
>Walled Gardens
Corporations aren't beholden to our free speech rights. It's inconvenient to say "fuck you" and go do something on your own, or use a walled garden alternative, but you still have the power to do so.
What becomes scary is when governments tell you that those systems and protocols that enable you to create your own platforms are illegal for you, the layperson, to use because they can be used in the facilitation of a crime. Tor. Bitcoin. Twister. Aether.
It will be argued that the access and use of such tools are only for the purpose of carrying out crimes, since they're solutions built on the concept of no central authority in order to control the content directly or be bullied into suppressing it.
Facebook, Twitter aren't where the magic happen. Just like nothing revolutionary happened on LiveJournal or MySpace. What changed the world there, other than people said that they had one? How was it any different from building a site on your own, other than sterilizing, uniforming, dumbing down the process?
They're tools to waste time and to have short victories on, especially so long as someone else is profiting from the content you generate. Consider that.
Consider that I just spent five minutes typing out something conveying an agreement, an argument, a small history lesson, and I will receive no actual compensation for it, I just spent five minutes hurtling closer towards death, with nothing to show for it.
Burn 'em to the ground.
Let's recap. What did we learn today? That Twitter cannot be used as a communications medium during social upheaval, even Turkish social upheaval. We need to move to an alternative that is user controlled.
Bit of a hodge-podge of an article, but entertaining to read. A good use of hyperlinks to reference outside material (sadly something I think is missing from most online articles).
To me Namecoin is the clearest example of what I would expect a DAC to be like. Although I'm curious about things like twister (http://twister.net.co/).
I can imagine a world in the not too distant future where the googles, youtubes, facebooks, etc are replaced by such distributed anonymous 'corporations'.
What I would like to see next is a DAC focused on providing simple computation resources (so far I haven't run across anything that more than a manifesto/whitepaper).
IMHO, once a simple downloadable VPS DAC 'miner' becomes available it will change the nature of the internet entirely. Google and Facebook will be the new 1990's AOL dinosaurs fighting for their lives, in a sea of newly created services, that don't face the limitations which hamper their ability to innovate.
More importantly, to a large degree I think the original promise of the internet was compromised because it wasn't truly decentralized or particularly anonymous. The powers that be found ways to drive things they didn't approve of underground. It seems to me that Bitcoin/DACs have the potential to finally fulfill the promise of a truly free (as in freedom) information architecture that connects humanity with itself.
What happens when the powers that be can't shutdown a twitter feed, a youtube channel, a website (unless they just want to unplug their country from the rest of humanity)?
I have to imagine that the content/news/information generated in that setting would well be worth connecting to (and paying for, which was the key missing ingredient of internet 1.0).
> GNU Linux-libre 4.17-gnu sources and tarballs are now available at http://www.fsfla.org/selibre/linux-libre/download/releases/4.17-gnu/. It didn't require any deblobbing changes since -rc7-gnu. Binaries are expected to show up over the next few days. > > The greatest news is that the driver for Dreamcast Yamaha AICA sound hardware is no longer cleaned up: the firmware for it is Free Software, and Jason Self's upcoming linux-libre-firmware release will have it. > > No other significant changes were made, just the usual assortment of adjustments. > > The codename -ENOTEMPTY celebrates that, after 10 days of truckers' strike that, despite broad support from the population including myself, led to shortages of fuel and many other products all over Brazil, I could finally refuel my car on Friday. > > For up-to-the-minute news, join us on #linux-libre of irc.gnu.org (Freenode), or follow me (@lxoliva) on Twister http://twister.net.co/, Secure Scuttlebutt, GNU social at social.libreplanet.org, Diaspora* at pod.libreplanetbr.org or pump.io at identi.ca. Check my web page (link in the signature) for direct links. > > Be Free! with GNU Linux-libre.
> I just said this in another thread earlier. That would be awesome. But what would happen when the crybullies start creeping in and pushing their bullshit?
Which is why some form of decentralization, the very essence of GamerGate, is necessary.
Running your own GNU Social instances can help, or if you don't like how it works or the people behind its initial code, http://twister.net.co has very good individual promise.
You should also have a look at Twister which is a censorship resistant Twitter clone, not based on IPFS but it uses a blockchain to store registered user accounts (i.e. public keys IIRC) and the only servers are bootstrapers that link new clients with ones already connected to the network, like Bittorrent.
LINK: http://twister.net.co/
I believe there are a few. They're just not hugely popular because Twitter has all the users and mindshare.
It's straight-forward to create a platform like Twitter, even a decentralized one. It's a lot harder to build a userbase.
Checkout Twister it's an interesting P2P alternative to Twitter!
Like all things, it's probably not perfect, but it actually works quite well. It has a pretty big Chinese dissident user base.
Not sure I have an argument, but I do have an application:
I use Twister everyday which utilizes a blockchain to propagates usernames and public keys. You can find out more here: http://twister.net.co
More detail on the twister blockchain here: https://black-puppydog.withknown.com/2015/a-quick-note-on-twisters-blocks
Ah pis tiens, une solution pour twitter: http://twister.net.co/
Parce que même l'information qui est strictement publique ne devrait pas être sous contrôle corporatif.
Je sais pas si c'est la solution idéal, mais c'est quand même fort intéressant. Ça utilise une version modifiée de libbitcoin pour l'enregistremment des usagés (à noté que ça n'a rien avoir avec la monnaie - on y mine les comptes et la récompense c'est un "promoted tweet", que le client peut ignorer), une table de hachage distribuée (DHT) pour faire l'echange de métadonnées, et des torrents pour les donneés.
A. currently there are 50944 registered accounts on twister
B. here's a script for you:
You should finish it up and release it here and on HN. You might have some good ideas others might be looking to integrate. Plus, you'd have a finished project you could show others afterwards, and could make it more easily to join such projects. Have you also looked into:
http://twister.net.co/ and http://okturtles.com/
Both have whitepapers there.
I upvoted you because the software consensus rules allowed your transaction through (in bitcoin world, all speech matters, not upvotes or downvotes).
Interesting notes also that while Bitcoin is protocol and bitcoin is currency (for simplicity's sake), a lot of people see Bitcoin as speech, because it's code, and information transmitted from place to place based on that code; and code is speech
Check out stuff like "bitmessage" and "twister (http://twister.net.co/)" for some actual speech applications built on bitcoin, or "peepeth" built on ethereum.
Awesome, just plain awesome!
Signed up immediately: https://memo.cash/profile/181vA6bdHpKM6H46GEGaYoSPyHE7GcZtPv :)
So now we have microblogging on the blockchain, let's hope it will take off.
Anybody remember this? http://twister.net.co/ Sadly, most people never heard of it.
I see there is a section for decentralized social networks. Have you heard of twister?
From the FAQ: >twister is a microblogging peer-to-peer platform, that is, it is a distributed system like bittorrent or similar file sharing technologies. Being completely decentralized means that no one is able to shut it down, as there is no single point to attack. The system is also designed so it cannot be censored, freedom of speech cannot be taken from you. And because the cryptography is employed end-to-end, no entity is able to spy on your communications.
Also, Synereo will be a decentralized social network. However, they only have a whitepaper and some videos demonstrating concepts. So this is not actually usable yet :(
Twister is better than twitter, and can be run over TOR, plus the added benefit of it being a blockchain, and not a website your profile is indestructible. If enough people helped push this out of beta, it could be a full twitter replacement. You have to host your own gateway to access it, but you can also setup the Twister Proxy, and share gateway access to Twister with friends/family. It uses a combination of something like bittorrent and blockchain to propagate. If you lose your public key your account is gone forever, also hell of a lot less likely to get hacked, no public database or sql to hijack, you would have to attack each user individually or the software as a whole. screenshots: http://twister.net.co/?page_id=27 Twister:https://github.com/miguelfreitas/twister-core TwisterGatewayProxy:https://github.com/digital-dreamer/twister-proxy
BuddyCloud, ~~Jappix~~Movim aussi (et plein d'autre). Le seul qui est vraiment marché c'est Identica/StatusNet. Le code était vraiment à chier... Et Evan a fini par le tuer parce qu'il voulait joindre le hype de nodejs (facepalm.jpg).
Ya Lorea/Elgg aussi, mais je connais vraiment personne qui utilise ça sauf quelques personnes autour du groupe de developpement.
Juste pour te faire chier parce que tu adores BitCoin.... http://twister.net.co/ (en faitça pas grand chose à avoir avec ButtCoin)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_software_and_protocols_for_distributed_social_networking
Twitter isn't decentralized. The servers are owned by Twitter.
An alternative is Twister, which uses a DHT and is based off bitcoin. Nobody owns it. Nobody can take it down. Nobody can censor it. And nobody uses it. :P
Telephone example: correct. Telephones also use a centralized model. So does the Internet.
The important thing to note is that potential distributed versions of both of those could exist. Hell, the internet already has cjdns and hyperboria as an alternative. It's a system that requires trusting nobody.
Very interesting article. I think the best option to fight domination is decentralization. We need a decentralized (no owners) social network. There are some attempts, like twister (http://twister.net.co/), but we need more and we need to make these peer-to-peer social networks better than the ones that can control and manipulate our behavior.
It is a neat 'look what you can do', i think it is a good example and practice. Tbh, it doesnt really seem like a good way to get messaging?
Of course it is tempting, because it is easy? Can we make non-blockchain p2p easier to program with? Stuff like DHT, Twister(uses DHT, i think), maidsafe more..(Freenet, retroshare) I havent looked into them well yet..
One big thing for such systems is if they're incentive compatible.
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That's why we gotta use twister, a censorship proof microblogging platform http://twister.net.co/ join the free-est place on the net.
twister Peer-to-peer microblogging
twister is the fully decentralized P2P microblogging platform leveraging from the free software implementations of Bitcoin and BitTorrent protocols.