What are /r/Rad_Decentralization's favorite Products & Services?

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Neat idea! Some feedback:

• The IPFS version of the site does not load for me

• When I click the Bittorrent and IPFS links on the HueyHex channel, the page says "Loading..." and nothing loads.

Let me know if I'm missing something obvious.

You can donate directly to Werner here: https://www.gnupg.org/donate/index.html

Update: /r/linux /r/bitcoin /r/privacy and /r/rad_decentralization rallied in support and he has now reached his €120000 funding target with some extra within a day. Awesome.

Yes there is a full decentralised version of reddit. https://steemit.com/

The whole thing is running on the steem blockchain. Really cool stuff.

We interviewed Ned from steemit on the Tatiana show last week. https://youtu.be/QVUSlG37eoc#t=38m

Hey, I'm the author.

What we have is the Dat APIs: you can read/write files to other P2P sites. Imagine having a global eventually-consistent database, and that's what the Dat APIs give you. We're going to standardize an architecture for large-scale services around that. The advantage is, the P2P sites work offline, sync between devices, and are controlled by the user; so, they can switch between applications and keep their data.

Some additional reading, if you're interested: http://pfrazee.github.io/blog/what-is-the-p2p-web

There are certain differences between Librevault and Syncthing now:

• Librevault is simpler for the end user. From my perspective, Syncthing doesn't aim to be user-friendly. More like geek-only solution.
• Librevault supports adding a folder by key, like BTSync. And also, it supports a URL scheme for adding a new folder just by clicking it in the browser.
• inotify, fsevents, kqueue and ReadDirectoryChangesW support out of the box. Syncthing requires you to install a separate third-party plugin for this.
• DHT support, so it doesn't need any trackers for peer discovery. DHT is Mainline DHT, so it can connect to BitTorrent clients and ask them for peers. It means, that Librevault can participate in the world's largest distributed peer discovery network and will not suffer the lack of DHT nodes.

Also, it has a proper (!) desktop UI inspired by BitTorrent Sync 1.3.

He pushes decentralization and then says he uses dat. But ultimately he's still relying on centralized self-hosting. There's no mention of ZeroNet at all. I host plenty of sites on ZeroNet, and I don't have to ever worry about my sites going down, even if I turn off my computer or don't have a dedicated self-hosting system. They're decentralized by default.

Dat and IPFS are cool, but they still lack that 'umph' that really forces things to be decentralized, rather than just self-hosted. As for scuttlebutt.... That's not really a web hosting platform.

Look, as a web developer, I don't want to mess with hosting and hoping my site stays online. With ZeroNet, I click a button, and instantly have a web address to use. I upload my work and hit sign/publish and it's instantly available. I visit it through a proxy, and give the link to a friend, and now my site is available online forever. The more people, the faster and more reliable it is.

Hell, even non-developers can make sites. Just click 'clone' on any blog, forum, search engine, wiki, etc. It'll instantly clone the site and have it publicly available with a single click.

But say you're still not happy. One guy owning a site could still bring it down if he got upset, right? Well that's where ZeroNet shines compared to these other solutions. There's an option to decentralize the backend of your site that's already hosted by the masses. You can have multiple data backends, all able to be opted in or opted out by users. And then your viewer frontend. The frontend can be swapped out and the data still viewed. And the backend can be swapped out and you can use the same viewer. No worries about data going down or viewers going down.

Can IPFS or Dat do this? I don't think they can. They're excellent self-hosting (and hopefully decentralized) software. And I do indeed watch them going forward. But for my personal hosting situation, I prefer ZeroNet.

>Peer-to-peer sites using bittorrent and sqlite

Sounds a lot like ZeroNet.... oh. So it's more like the actual official bittorrent site thing, where they just pack a site into a torrent and it's entirely immutable. That basically makes it a non-starter. No one will use sites that aren't interactive and don't update lol. Kills the entire point.

Edit: It's worth noting there's been a few search engines on ZeroNet. Including a full-text search. It's entirely possible.

No At writing The last release was on August 1, 2015 The last commit 25 Sep 2015

He hasn't updated ~~the website's download page for a while, but I don't think that is a good indication of a project's vitality~~ most of the website since 2013, but the github and blog are both still active.

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, not sure about it's security or the specifics. But I use https//:write.as and you can set it to unlisted, so only those with the link can view it

Yes. It is also maintained by the project main developer. It doesn't however mean that "Mastodon" itself has these rules.

Decentralized networks are confusing :)

Btw, I'm pretty sure the official mastodon info page is these days https://joinmastodon.org/ - maybe it's not mentioned in the post.

As I stated, the cycle is fundamentally different when there are a lot of options. When people can leave, the incentives change dramatically.

What possible benefit is it to a city-state to be an apex predator? What does that even mean? To rule others by force? Being the apex predator, in the sense you're describing, is what bankrupts and destroys polities. You make it sound like warfare is profitable. It's not, except to those who finance the debt warring polities take on.

No, the most brutal will not succeed. This is Econ 101. Cooperative and peaceful trade is the ticket to wealth, not warfare. Uber doesn't disrupt by executing taxi drivers and forcing people into its vehicles at gunpoint, it offers a better, more efficient product at a cheaper price. Start up cities would offer good governance. Good governance = cost efficient provision of common goods and just dispute resolution. Nobody on earth is going to voluntarily move to move to a city so they can pay exorbitant taxes to finance a military. That's just ludicrous. Military states are EXTREMELY expensive. The most competitive cities would have next to none.

You would do well to become literate in basic economics. Sorry if that comes across as insulting, but it's clear that you're not. Henry Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson would be a good starting point.

Thanks for checking the project out.

You can probably find out where the webtorrent library is installed like this:

https://stackoverflow.com/a/5926706/2131094

I don't use Windows but it's probably in one of these locations:

Windows XP - %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\npm\node_modules\webtorrent\

Windows 7, 8 and 10 - %AppData%\npm\node_modules\webtorrent\

I tried to implement the project in Java first but WebTorrent on node.js was a faster way to get this working.

Thanks again for your feedback. Pull requests welcome!

Skip the article about 'it'; go to the source:

Yggdrasil Network | End-to-end encrypted IPv6 networking to connect worlds

>Yggdrasil is an implementation of a new name-independent routing scheme and functions as an end-to-end encrypted IPv6 network.
>
>It is lightweight, easy to configure, supported on multiple platforms, and allows pretty much any IPv6-capable application to communicate securely with other Yggdrasil nodes. You do not need to have IPv6 Internet connectivity from your ISP — it also works just fine over IPv4.

https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/

[Users like you provide all of the content and decide, through voting, what's good and what's junk.]

There was a 'beta' app up for a while, but that was pulled in early April to be replaced with an improved mobile app with Ethereum compatibility. The release date for it has slipped a bit.

They are currently facilitation a p2p FB group in Austin after uber and lyft ceased operations. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/09/uber-lyft-austin-texas-facebook-rideshare-program

It varies. I guess it's a lot like reddit, in the sense that popular stuff has a good deal of chatter (for example, the top 'active' discussion right now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9204724 has a bunch of tired criticism of Microsoft (which just isn't interesting to read, I'm not offering an opinion on whether it is deserved or not) and squabbling), but there are also lots of discussions that go down like the one I linked.

Try it and see is probably the best answer (but don't expect to be interested in everything that makes the front page).

I downloaded it for a test drive. It looks good! User-friendly and feature-rich.

I am very skeptical of their documentation basically says its 100% secure. That wrecks credibility. Compare TOR's documentation, which emphasizes its vulnerabilities and weak points.

> Go research what a processor foundry entails

Yeah so that's the goal then, to decentralize a processor foundry. However, for the time being, it's not much of a sacrifice to rely on a centralized ARM manufacturer in return for everything else in any given hardware device being decentralized. Do you agree?

> huh?

Basically, the same as the above: "Yeah so that's the goal then..."

> Hardware is hard, software is easy.

Why does it have to be hard? I'm not sure I follow you. I don't see how centralizing hardware makes it easier, it just means more standards to go through, more integration issues to reverse engineer, etc.

> maybe one day, it's not relevant now.

This article is from 2012. Why can't this be used in 3D printing? I'm sure there's ways of doing it... I doubt it will take as long as you say to come out. Remember, I'm not talking about general purpose computing, I'm talking about specialized computing so it doesn't necessarily have to be general purpose CPUs, whether it's ASICs or FPGAs or Paperclips, at least it's done in a decentralized fashion for the sole purpose of the specific device at hand.

> maybe if it's cheaper then other stuff.

The cost of liquid metals and a 3D printer for an unlimited supply of computers?

> potentially, but not necessarily, technology can be used for both good and bad.

What do you mean?

There is some new info on setting up a Room.

https://www.manyver.se/faq/connect-room/

Pub: meet people on a server. you can see their public posts, they can see yours. it's a way to make public conversations, eavesdrop on other public conversations, see things people have posted on their public boards, etc., so to speak. That means you will be downloading other people's data (who are in the Pub) and sharing it around. Often Pubs have a local topic of conversation, "This pub is for people interested in Quilting" or "Exchanging recipes".

Room: is more like a quiet room, like a place where people go to pick up and drop off their mail, including mail they are passing along through the network to friends and friends of friends. You can interact with someone if you want, or not. You can tell a friend who you cannot meet in person (to connect over local wifi) to meet you there so you can both follow each other and make a connection. Mostly mail is distributed through the network. So, if someone is there that you do not follow and none of your friends know them, you're not exchanging any data with them.

Just to be clear, it sounds like the 'service' you're looking for is a marketplace system that can be used for food delivery, not food delivery itself. The 'food delivery service' would be provided by other users of the app.

The closest I can think of is Open Bazaar, but I think it's setup more for mail-order or online services, rather than real-tiime stuff like food delivery.

https://openbazaar.org/

This is the project https://airsonic.github.io/
A cool feature could be that airsonic could connect to a shared network and get access to others people musics and stream it.

PoA is proof of activity implemented in decred and co inventedd by charles lee (guy behind litecoin)

these eth scammers should come up with their own methods

plus this design is horrible permissioned doxxing crap on centralized ethereum chain

Just a heads up, /r/anarchism is not moderated by anarchists, which is why I linked /r/anarchismonline. Still a decent source for anarchist news and such though.

As for scuttlebutt, if you don't want to dig into tech, just download patchwork and run it. No real tech needed, it's just a .app for mac. And, like zeronet, it's a very easy way to just jump right into p2p stuff. I'll I've personally done so far is use patchwork and it works great.

>I agree wholeheartedly with the "dependency" thing. I'm still finishing up a college degree (don't get me started), but I want to start getting into solar and hydroponics, etc. so I can meet as many of my needs as possible on my own.

Great :). I think it's important to think about why you visit /r/rad_decentralization, and want to decentralize things. For me, it's a matter of removing a central authority, and restoring control of things to individuals and the community, rather than to a small elite. This means that my goals also include a variety of non-technical stuff. But perhaps that's not everyones' goal here.

Oh, I just remembered another thing you could do that's very easy. Switch your DNS over to OpenNIC. It's not decentralized, but still much better than existing name servers.

I see, thanks for the information.

It might be useful for users to inform https://prism-break.org/en/projects/tox/ and https://www.privacytools.io/ as they are both still pointing to the tox.im site.

>I want to know how much views my site gets, which pages are used the most, when users are the most active etc... This helps me focus what I'm developing. I'm using google analytics right now until I have a better solution built-in the project itself.

We know that. That's what makes almost everyone use them, but is it ethically correct tho? I don't think so.

I'm sorry but I will not contribute in any way to this project. Not just because of this, but because of how you take decisions. From now on I can be assured that if you'll face any kind of dilemmas you'll most likely chose the option that's most convenient to you and not the one that's ethically the right one. We've seen projects like that (chromium for example) and IMO the FOSS community doesn't really like it. Why I said chromium? Because it's FOSS and all that but the way it was built - benefits the creators (google) more than the users. Why? Because the community had to redo the stuff and remove all the garbage and release that as another project called <strong>ungoogled</strong>-chromium and it has over 6500+ stars on github.

If that's where you're heading towards then I don't wanna participate in that.

Actually there are companies starting to use it. When you look at our gnunet-ev repository, pretty Easy privacy and Taler S.A. are working together with us. There's another one, but if I remember correctly they provide it for free? It's been a while.

Once we've polished the public appearance and texts, companies as well as people will (hopefully) understand more. Right now the confusion and questions I've been reading online are only natural.

https://gnunet.org/git/gnunet-ev.git/tree/

Luckily, there already are mobile apps for GNU social. I use AndStatus, another alternative is Mustard. Both are open source, both are on F-Droid and Google Play.

Nice thing. Check out this too: http://zeronet.io. Peer-to-peer serverless websites. Forums, blogs with following (work almost like twitter), trackers, etc. You can check it even without installing via gateway: http://bit.no.com:43110 After installing ZeroNet you won't need the gateway anymore. You should change bit.no.com to 127.0.0.1 then.

>So even in the very best of cases, you have a big community around a core that is still as vulnerable to corruption as anything else is today.

We actually have the solution to this problem these days: blockchain technology. Unfortunately, no one quite understands how it works... These poor guys still can't even figure it out: http://democracyos.org/

Decentralized organizations require trust by computation.

> In an area with a lot of sunlight this would be impactful

It should work everywhere but close to the polar circle during polar night.

> but I am having a hard time thinking of the practical implications for it?

It's a low-bandwidth communication network that will stay up even when everything else goes down, so suitable for emergency situations (think Katrina, etc.).

Their app says https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tk.giesecke.disaster_radio

Android app for disaster.radio a disaster-resilient communications network powered by the sun When the critical infrastructure that so many of us take for granted goes away, how do we organize ourselves and our communities to respond?

If recent ecological disasters have demonstrated anything, it is the inadequacy of existing models and tools to provide efficient allocation of resources, access to emergency communications, and effective coordination of human effort. Few if any solutions exist that are off-grid, affordable, reliable, easily deployed, and openly standardized.

disaster.radio addresses this problem.

disaster.radio is an off-grid, solar-powered, long-range mesh network built on free, open source software and affordable, open hardware.

Designed to be open, distributed, and decentralized, disaster.radio is currently in the prototype/development phase.

It sounds like you don't even know the definition of a factory.

I think you truly have no idea what it takes to build most things and you have no idea what is required to bring most materials and useful goods into existence.

I am interested in casting and automated greenhouses and a lot of other things, but I think it is kinda silly to talk about people doing absolutely everything for themselves on one hand and then talk about socialism and the need to provide people with what they need to survive on the other.

What was the last thing you actually built for yourself? Do you even know how to change your oil and fix your own brakes? Can you fix your refrigerator or washer if they break? If you expect everyone to do things for themselves shouldn't you at least be able to do all of these basic things now?

There is a video called something like the $1500 toaster and I think that same guy made one about how long it would take to produce a chicken sandwich by yourself too. Specialization is what makes the world function - I am all for being independent in as many ways as possible, but trade is how we cooperate and benefit from others. We are social animals, trade is natural.

You read Economics in One Lesson and I will read something of comparable size at your suggestion. I think Economics in One Lesson is available for free online, so that would be helpful too, but I know how to torrent books, so whatever.

Edit: Jesus fucking Christ, I didn't see your second comment - remember how I said these comments seem to be getting exponentially larger and it was impossible to address everything...

It's pretty common for people to misinterpret historical facts and misattribute historical happenings. Banks and governments gain control of money via inflation, or the issuing of notes without reserves to back them.

Bitcoin cannot be inflated, and I can't imagine why someone would accept a Bitcoin IOU. What makes Bitcoin special is largely that each transaction is verified by the network ensuring that every unit is valid every time an exchange is made. There is a transaction chain back to the origin of every unit.

In addition to checking out Economics in One Lesson, if you are interested Tom Woods also has a great weekday history/economics podcast, and there is an episode specifically about monopolies and people attempting to corner markets.

Btw, (in response to a comment in your history) I completely agree that global warming is a veiled push for global socialism and government control over business and production. Everything else aside, it's hilarious how bad the actual scientific arguments for all the global warming alarmism really are when you start digging.

Edit: The last part of this short video basically explains how control of money is established. http://youtu.be/2oHbwdNcHbc