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On the OpenBazaar project we have to be intolerant of naming centralization but it's a pretty difficult problem. We have been using Blockstack as an open protocol for name resolution and it works pretty well. It uses the Bitcoin blockchain to anchor registrations so anybody with access to the Bitcoin network is able to independently resolve names. I expect Blockstack name resolution to come to MS Edge in the not-too-distant future and other browsers after. Hopefully it'll be a big step toward a more decentralized web.
they have already,
http://www.wired.com/2014/04/darkmarket/
these tools are under active development. there's a project called OpenBazaar:
just wait, it's happening. what are they going to do about a decentralised uncensored drugs market?
There are many. Three that could have a large effect on Bitcoin in the mid-term are:
- Lighthouse: http://blog.vinumeris.com/2014/05/17/lighthouse/
- OpenBazaar: https://openbazaar.org/
- Coinffeine: http://coinffeine.com/
I single these out because of the way they replace centralized gatekeepers with peer-to-peer protocols and open source software. Lighthouse replaces Kickstarter. OpenBazaar replaces eBay. And Coinffeine replaces liquidity providers such as Coinbase.
This comment implies that peer to peer trade is only useful for illicit items. I disagree.
There is an enormous amount of trade being done online right now, and nearly all of it uses centralized services like Amazon or eBay. These platforms provide a place to connect buyers and sellers, and offer other services as well, and in return they take a percentage cut of each transaction, typically anywhere from 5-20% depending on the good or service. They also collect data about you, and because they control their own platforms entirely they can censor trade as well.
OpenBazaar offers an alternative. People now have a tool to easily engage in trade directly with other people. This eliminates the cut from the middleman and gives people options to secure services (such as dispute resolution) on an open marketplace. Traffic is encrypted so your own data and trade is more private. Censorship of trade can't happen at the network level; the only way to take a store offline would be to physically go into someone's home and shut off their computer.
If you haven't tested out OpenBazaar yet, give it a shot. It's a completely different experience from trying to set up web server, install ecommerce software, install Bitcoin plugins, etc. It's open source and free to use.
I want you to be successful. I know there are many challenges to overcome. But please change this sentence at https://openbazaar.org/
"We hope to have a full release early 2015."
Unless "full release" means something entirely different to you.
This is more accurate:
> There's no question if you are looking to conduct a business on top of OpenBazaar right now, you'll be disappointed.
I'm one of the project leaders on OpenBazaar, and as usual there is a lot of misinformation in this sub.
OpenBazaar is doing well, it has been used by several hundred thousand people from around the world, with more than 10,000 listings available for purchase. You can browse the network here:
Many people are upset that we integrated coins other than Bitcoin, but we explained our decision for this a long time ago and I don't think it's unreasonable at all:
I personally am still a strong Bitcoin believer, I wrote one of the first books about Bitcoin back in spring 2013 and most of our team are long-time Bitcoiners. OpenBazaar was one of the first people to implement SegWit and the idea that we're anti-Bitcoin is just wrong. Bitcoin is still the most used coin on OpenBazaar.
We're about to release a mobile app which focuses on letting people trade directly with each other privately.
Some here don't like the personalities involved in the project - and that's fine, that's their choice - but because of that they don't even try the product itself, which has developed into something pretty powerful. Fully distributed network with end to end encryption, built on IPFS so data is censorship-resistant, Tor-compatible, no fees, and you hold your own crypto keys. Permissionless trade for permissionless money.
If you want to decide for yourself whether or not OpenBazaar would be useful to you, download it and see:
Check out Open Bazaar https://openbazaar.org/ Decentralized/peer-to-peer systems are the way to empower the people and bypass banks and all centralized financial institutions, the path to re-set the control from the few to the many, are the future for everything. The potential implications of the development of distributed consensus technologies is revolutionary.
We have now an open source peer to peer decentralized digital currency. It is very safe, since is cryptographically secured by a distributed global mathematical algorithm and public decentralized open source ledger, a revolutionary disruptive technology called 'Blockchain'. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_chain
> I don't understand why operations like this haven't moved to a decentralized/p2p type of system, like bitcoin itself.
They are working on it: OpenBazaar. But cloning the Silk Road was faster, so Silk Road 2.0 and similar sites were up in a matter of weeks. OpenBazaar had to be written from scratch. It's in beta, and hopes to reach full release early next year.
I'd keep an eye on Bitcoin 21 and whatever mesh net news you can grok.
Edit: oh and something like OpenBazaar as a peer to peer bandwith market, like a stock market for the bits using micro-payments and peering.
It's all startups and ideas right now, but if you are into the subject there hasn't been a better time to be working in the problem space, lots of opportunity and dissatisfaction with the status quo.
We are looking for help to build our next UI at OpenBazaar. it is a voluntary job, but enough commits merged will surely land you several job offers a week. I think we are building a multibillion dollar per year technology that will not only compete with the likes of Amazon, Alibaba and eBay, but our technology will enable the further development of commercial verticals such as p2p lending, insurance, shipping, automated drone market places... anything that can be put into smart contracts.
if you are long in Bitcoin, you can see the time spent on this project as the best way to make your investment grow in value. The launch of OpenBazaar will mean a tremendous increase in commercial trading done on Bitcoin, causing Bitcoin to become more useful as it will buy you a long tail of things/services, meaning you will need more bitcoin thus driving the demand and possibly the price up.
in the meantime you will learn different technologies and work with an international team, the learning experience alone will be worth thousands of dollars in education and make you a more valuable programmer with proven experience in the cryptocurrency industry, thus you will have credible leverage for finding that job you want (that is if you will want to do something else, as if we make this happen we know honest funding will not be an issue to support a formal team full time if we incorporate as a non for profit)
Perhaps set up shop on OpenBazaar once it becomes operational? It won't be as big a market (at first) but it takes sellers to attract the buyers in the first place. Hopefully, it won't be too long until they get it up and running.
I want to preface my next sentence by saying that I disagree publicly and strongly with Core's scaling roadmap.
That said, I don't think it's fair or wise to criticize /u/nullc on the subject of fungibility. He's been a champion of Bitcoin privacy for several years and I have no doubt he will continue to generate some profound ideas to make Bitcoin truly anonymous.
My fellow cypherpunks out there know that Bitcoin can never achieve its true potential unless it is 100% fungible, which requires anonymity among other things. I know for OpenBazaar, Bitcoin anonymous transaction is something we're pining for.
OpenBazaar is the upcoming version.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
But this is basically just the problem of asymmetric information. Which, ironically, stems from the work of Hayek.
You can check it out here: https://openbazaar.org/
It's an open source protocol that can use BCH, BTC, eth, zcash, Litecoin depending on what the store owner will accept.
Haven is a mobile app that works with the protocol as well.
For anyone who wants to start selling/support OpenBazaar you can:
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- Download a desktop client at openbazaar.org and setup/run your own node
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- Setup your shop on the web for free at Zokos.com (hosted service that we run)
Yep, you have to take the middleman out. My day job is building a p2p ecommerce platform for the same reason. If there's a central server then there's a risk of censorship at the very least, if not full-blown compromise.
With things like end-to-end encryption products use the term almost purely as marketing without getting into the details. End-to-end encryption is worthless if you can't verify exactly who you're talking to. Otherwise you and the other person may both be speaking with an attacker who is simply relaying messages.
This idea is similar to the platform in development called OpenBaazar. Think Ebay meets torrents. You may be able to implement your ideas within this platform as crowdfunding events.
If you aren't in the cryptocurrency community, you should get interested, it's all about free trade and getting away from corruptible middle men and bureaucracy.
This sort of thing already works, for example I can use code to pay you for volunteering for a good cause: /u/changetip $5
>So, OK OK OK I understand, I'll get downvoted to oblivion because some of you guys might think I'm spitting in the soup, but no.
No way man, that's the whole idea of a beta! We want your ideas.
> 1) on the main page there is no way to know exactly where to download anything , the only link to github is at the bottom of the page. Maybe I would suggest adding a download link in the top menu pointing to the latest release link on github ?
We're redesigning the main page now, and we are doing what you suggest. This should be released by the 24th, /u/bglassy is heading this up.
> 2) ok I'm on windows (like most folks in the world). Right now I would like to try openbazaar. I don't want to install a linux VM just for that, nor a windows VM. On the beta 3 release page, I see I can get a windows copy. nice ! I download the sources from the release page. I see I need to get PowerShell to go on. Guys, I know powershell is very nice, but it's not included in windows 7 by default. Look at this page that shows how to do it, I don't even want to try to understand it. http://blogs.technet.com/b/heyscriptingguy/archive/2013/06/02/weekend-scripter-install-powershell-3-0-on-windows-7.aspx[1]
> 3) oh I need also visual studio. ;( > > --> Please guys, can you create windows binaries and put them on github ? Thanks a lot !
I think you're mistaken! You don't need to build from source, the binary is right here.
>4) Can someone make some .ova appliances for virtualbox ? thanks from all my heart !
I don't know if those exist, but if you open up a GitHub issue I'm sure that someone will create one in time.
You seem especially pissed off about fees. Some people try to buy drugs and the fee ends up being their lives. The key here was that he pioneered a new system for molecular distribution across an anonymous platform using bitcoins for currency.
Before this system no one else had done this, so the extra fees were justified by supply and demand economics. I still procure my illicit/recreational organic chemistry from sources I have established social relationships with, but that doesn't mean he didn't do something innovative and bring products to market that not everyone has such immediate access to.
Who are we to tell him what to do with his MASSIVE bitcoin pile anymore than we are to tell Bill Gates or the Koch Brothers with their capital? Until that fateful day at the San Francisco public library he thought he was just getting started. In a way his failure at OPSEC has only enhanced the succeeding generations of this technology He was/is the Shawn Fanning. Now they have to deal with Bram Coehn
> Yeah well, if ancaps really cared about a free market, they would provide people market options to things so that people could start seeing that they do have the ability to do these things seperately.
I've been peripherally involved with OpenBazaar for a few months. OB aims to provide a decentralized protocol for commerce. First public release is happening soon.
I'm not a developer, but I might be able to start a hosting company for such. Not a purely altruistic move - I hope to make a living with it.
OpenBazaar is not a single company or uniform. IIRC it was Brian that expressed some interest in 2x. Brian is the CEO of a single company on the project.
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The project has a lot of contributors and multiple companies working on it, his opinion was never the project's overall view. OpenBazaar goes all the way back to Amir Taaki's darknetmarket + dozens of independent contributors since then - https://openbazaar.org/contributors/
Hey, that's me. Thanks Roger.
Reminder that OpenBazaar uses BTC, BCH, LTC, ZEC, and soon ETH.
If you're like me, you care about cryptocurrencies and decentralization because they give us the ability to get around the highly-monitored and rigidly-controlled legacy banking + ecommerce platforms.
Every single transaction done in those systems gives the surveillance state one more piece of information about us, and as you can see in the examples from my thread, even seemingly innocuous information can be used against us by malicious actors.
Sure it's nice to see our coins increase in value, but it's even nicer to engage in private trade with anyone else in the world without needing to ask for anyone's permission. Let's make trade free!
https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver You can also try the OpenBazaar network: https://openbazaar.org/ >BTCPay Server is a free and open-source cryptocurrency payment processor which allows you to receive payments in Bitcoin and altcoins directly, with no fees, transaction cost or a middleman.
Billions of people use unsafe plastics, burn fossil fuels, and breathe unclean air.
Hate to say it, but they're gonna use Amazon to shop online, because the prices are low and it's convenient to do so.
Bashing Amazon can only hope to promote Amazon's competitors. I'd say the most obvious thing to do would be to launch or promote the interests of a blockchainified version of Amazon. One example of this is the OpenBazaar project, which is highly, highly recommend looking into.
I know it's beta but I wish this looked more like a polished consumer product / killer app. It looks like an open source project with little thought given to the user experience or design and more to the engineering / concept.
Edit: I just found the screens of the new design. Nice work! Like the direction. They are here if anyone is curious: https://openbazaar.org/jobs
Next beta release is close to being released. Also some services have been built, in stealth mode atm, which will make running and updating a node really really easy. Exciting times.
But if you have any specific skills you can bring to the table, PM me.
If you’re not against crypto try this;
I don’t sell but have done purchases. Give it a check
Edit: you also have the option to work direct with the buyer or “open bazaar” as middle-men
1.7 Billion servings per day? Well not bad considering its been open 3 weeks ! New owners, closed for months. Https://openbazaar.org! Do you think the internet could stream audio, let alone video, in 1995?
No specific timeline for Monero but the OpenBazaar development team at OB1 is working on a big change to the infrastructure that will allow users to choose their own payment coins. You can read more about it here: https://openbazaar.org/blog/Freedom-To-Trade-Means-Freedom-To-Choose-Currencies-The-OpenBazaar-Multiwallet/
Hi, when you set up an OpenBazaar store, choose one or more Moderators. The Moderator will protect both you and the buyer. Read about it at https://openbazaar.org/blog/how-moderators-and-dispute-resolution-work-in-openbazaar/
0 fees (no 3rd party taking a cut, ex: 10% fee) compared to amazon or ebay is nothing to scoff at.
a new interview with open bazaar founder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CInC9ZK9_iU&feature=youtu.be
their website: https://openbazaar.org/
Merchant adoption isn't really all that important, let me explain.
Right now it'd be just as easy for someone to use Fiat to purchase goods from Microsoft, OverStock, NewEgg, Dell, Expedia Ect, Merchant adoption tends to just be useful for people already holding Bitcoin, but doesn't give any reason for new users to join the Bitcoin Ecosystem, what does give consumers incentive is places that only accept Bitcoin.
Projects like Open Bazaar, and others like it that increase Bitcoins utility are what will bring Bitcoin into the mainstream.
^ be sure to send a few bits their way, Open Bazaar will definitely be one of Bitcoins "Killer Apps"
Silk Road 2 wasn't even the largest darknet market. There are a large number of other, larger markets that are already operating. Here's a list: http://vault43.org/chart.php
Those are all centralized markets, though. Having a single point of failure and a group of human operators makes them vulnerable to law enforcement. A better solution is openbazaar. Like bitcoin, openbazaar is fully distributed, meaning there are no servers to seize or operators to arrest.
They founded a company, OB1, with a $1 million venture capital investment from Union Square Ventures and Andreessen Horowitz, and immediately began hiring developers to build a better version of the software from the ground up.
OB1 received a second round of investment for $3 million in the fall of 2016, further expanding their development team and began work on the second major version of the software, improving on the limitations of the first version.
Technically, someone else has to continue with the OpenBazaar development? OB1 said they would release more details soon.
It's a little confusing, openbazaar.com is just a simple browse-only site the dev team stood up for now and openbazaar.org is the official website for the software itself. Still have to download to purchase but at least you can browse easily via web now!
Yeah I really like the clean layout.
Any word on when mobile support is coming?
Also I got a bug it seems on this page using Brave https://openbazaar.org/mobile-updates/
When I entered my email for the news letter, nothing happened when clicking the submit button, seems to work on chrome though.
OpenBazaar is in it's 2.0 version and is widely supported by cryptocurrency users. It's not for auctions but you can buy and sell using bitcoin. Here is a download link from their website, and here is a link to their subreddit where you can find a ton of useful information about trusting buyers/sellers, etc: r/OpenBazaar.
+1 for purse.io, which lets you use BTC or BCH for any amazon purchases
"A Free Market for all. No Fees. No Restrictions."
The concept is: the store front software is running on everyone's computers, so there is no center to 'shut down' but also no center to 'take a cut' of your sales.
It has roots in the 'darknetmarkets' but OpenBazaar is trying to aim for mainstream.
Suite à un post sur OpenBazaar, je suis en train de tester la plateforme car ça m'intriguait et comme j'ai quelques cartes Magic à fourguer et je me suis dit que ça pouvait être rigolo de passer par ce système.
Peut être que je n'ai pas bien vu (la plateforme est du type client/serveur) mais dans le tutoriel de démarrage la partie installation du serveur local est complétement zappée. Du coup on se retrouve au premier lancement avec la configuration de la connexion à ce serveur... qui n'existe pas. Il faut installer son serveur local à la mano pour ensuite pouvoir ouvrir le browser et parcourir les boutiques. Sinon en suivant le tutoriel d'installation du server et après quelques lignes de commandes on accède facilement et rapidement aux boutiques.
Premier aperçu très positif, ça charge vite, c'est propre. Il faut un peu de temps pour que ça converge mais on voit très rapidement apparaître de nouvelles annonces. Je ne suis pas encore tombé sur des trucs illégaux (quoi que le billet de 100$ vendu à 75$...) et il y a un filtre NSFW.
J'attends que mon portefeuille Bitcoin converge et j'essaierais d'acheter les petits pins OpenBazaar pour tester l'achat et saisir quelques annonces de vente.
Edit : Ah si, ça y est, j'ai trouvé de la weed par sac de 100 kilos.
Keep an eye on Microwork. It's a startup thats aims to let people perform simple online work for bitcoin. Whether or not this particular startup works out, something similar is likely to go live in the near future. Also, OpenBazaar is a decentralised marketplace being built on Bitcoin. Disputes between buyers and sellers will be resolved by 'arbiters' who recieve a small percentage of the purchase amount. Anyone can be an arbiter.
> Cut one of us down and two more shall rise in his place.
I believe there are have been more than a dozen new silk roads created better and more secure since the raid of SRv1 and with the coming lunch of OpenBazaar the feds have already lost the war.
Open Bazar https://openbazaar.org is an Open Source software that you can download from GitHub (https://github.com/OpenBazaar/OpenBazaar) and run on your pc, just like Bitcoin client or Multibit... it let you open an eBay-Like store where you can list your item. It's free, dosen't require subscription, all transaction are done without any commission. It's decentralized, so there's no server that can be hacked or seized by FBI. No company behind. Payments are done only in bitcoin, from buyer to seller, this means that no charge back can be done to you as a merchant. Plus it provides buyers pseudoanonymate. Go to check it and support it, it will blow your mind.. it's just a matter of time.
That would be awesome. Multisig is sort of completed but the implementation depends in large part on the Notary system which is not yet fully completed. Here is the github master branch if you want to do a pull request and contribute
https://github.com/OpenBazaar/OpenBazaar
Subreddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/
Homepage
https://openbazaar.org/
Personally I think the government will reach a point where it's no longer possible/feasible to strong-arm ISPs in this way to filter content.
There are some very interesting open-source projects underway that work on a P2P decentralised system to deliver an online market place.. https://openbazaar.org/ is one such example, often referred to as SilkRoad 2.0. These platforms work across distributed nodes, neither one dependent on the other. Couple this with technologies like Bitcoin and you have a full end-to-end marketplace where the identity of the participants are completely obfuscated.
Bitshares X is a distributed P2P platform that allows anyone with an internet connection to trade crypto securities and currency derivatives, completely anonymously. It is like the NYSE for the crypto world except it operates via decentralized consensus rather than centralized authority. As such, its existence and operations are not subject to financial censorship or control by corrupt state actors.
Another example of a decentralized marketplace which is built on the bitcoin blockchain is OpenBazaar. OpenBazaar is basically like E-bay except there is no censorship regarding what can and cannot be sold and fees are almost negligible.
Note that both of these platforms are still in the early testing stages but provided they work correctly (as of now there's no indication that they won't) they will likely displace a significant amount of traditional global finance and trade.
Pretty good documentary. The interest aspect to take away from this is with the silk road website. The major flaw with silkroad is that it was a centralized system (just like napster) and inherent to being shut down if the central server was seized/crashed what have you.
To solve this problem, you simply need to convert the marketplace into a decentralized system of nodes operating in a peer to peer network, similar to how bittorrent works. One project is trying to build such a system which is called open bazaar. When completed that software will be a decentralized marketplace and will have zero censorship and zero seller fees (notary/arbiters will charge a fee though). Viva free markets!!!
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All money is a bubble. That aspect of things is irrelevant to the case being made for cryptos like Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash.
For the sake of a redundancy of arguments, the risk of a currency going to 0 and dying is there for all currencies. Even gold. Money isn't inherently valuable. It is only valuable when the person you're transacting with thinks that it is.
So the value to be had by many cryptos like Bitcoin in the situation we're discussing under this post is that it provides the transactional tools needed to do business independently with others in replace of the cash that they are removing from the world with the added benefit that it can be exchanged over networks and not just in person.
Are there risks and shortcomings? Yes, of course. But that conversation is way too deep for this comment.
btw... check out https://openbazaar.org
That was 2-1/2yrs ago...when did that run out?
How long have they been relying on donations?
Their donation page
>We accept donations to help pay for expenses like conference attendance, server infrastructure, bug bounties...
Yet also includes the ironic statement:
>As such, the project currently doesn’t need community funding to survive
> No one is going to switch to Bitcoin to make the same purchase at the same price as fiat.
Think of all the benefits of Bitcoin Cash over Fiat
- No chargebacks, ever
- No credit card/ bank fees
- Never deal with banks again
- Never touch disgusting filthy paper money
- Never go to an ATM again
- Pay for LEGAL weed and guns at stores that have been deemed too "high risk" for credit card services (basically all the dispensaries where I live in Boulder, CO do NOT accept credit cards for this reason)
- Merchants never pay credit card fees, which are 1-3%+
- Donate to people who have been banned from all other payment processors (ex: Laura Loomer)
- Drug dealers can avoid being spied on by Paypal or Venmo
- Send money across borders and currencies for free (this is huge, remittances will change forever)
Applications like OpenBazaar are far superior to Ebay, with ZERO fees and chargebacks.
Bitcoin Cash is also ideologically far superior to Fiat, as it is not funded through debt printing and extortion the way Fiat is. Bitcoin Cash can usher in the greatest period of human freedom ever seen before.
This is a fun idea but please don't encourage people to post addresses publicly here, you need to remove this part of the comment or I will have to remove the whole comment. There may be a fun alternative though, what about setting up a https://openbazaar.org market place?
I don't think devs are marketeers. Devs are tool enablers or limiters.
In its simplest form each crypto right now is a popularity contest, trying to win over more people. That is why there is such a constant effort to smear BCH by certain bad actors, those bad actors know it's a threat so they try to keep new people scared. If it wasn't a threat they wouldn't waste their time.
I think the community itself should be the ones helping to increase adoption, not devs. Find retailers that will accept BCH and spend some there. Share a picture of it on your social media. Ask at least one shop this month that you regularly visit that doesn't accept BCH to consider accepting it.
Join me in the discussions over at r/cryptocurrency as there is a lot of anti BCH going on there largely unchallenged. If you do this please be civil, and technical if you want to change minds.
Get some BCH stickers made, or merch made, and give it away. Is you're techinal enough you can start workshops to help setup wallets for people, to teach people, it to start meetups. Use cool tech like https://openbazaar.org and https://memo.cash.
Does a significant portion of your userbase know about or use Bitcoin? Chargebacks aren't possible.
The marketplace OpenBazaar uses Bitcoin and doesn't charge fees. It's new so there aren't a lot of users, but if you bring an existing customer base over you save the fees and can use Bitcoin instead of credit cards or PayPal.
https://openbazaar.org/, https://bitify.com/, there might be more market places.
in case you already have a website/web shop for your products, you could integrate bitcoin as payment option. more information on this
im normally 100pct with you. its only major retailers that I trust at this point. places that care if I were to go on-line and complain.
but https://openbazaar.org/ is an experiment where they have a network attempting to self regulate people using cryto for small businesses and individuals that you pretty much have 0 trust in.
while i'm like you a total skeptic and know just how brutal marketplaces like ebay/amazon can be. I'm really interested to see just how it plays out.
You can view their store within OpenBazaar and going to their handle / address @FlemingFamilyFarm
Or you can view on your phone or web browser right now with DuoSear.ch/@FlemingFamilyFarm or BazaarBay.org/@FlemingFamilyFarm
Maybe have a look a becoming an Open Bazaar vendor (or figuring out services vendors would want to buy):
There's also Bitmarkets, which has some advantages:
yes but "content" is just the first steep of decentralization
the next step is to decentralize the companie
optimisation all time ... optimisation...
"alibaba" => openbazar
"netfix" => " popcorntime"
"bank" => "bitcoint"
I'd like to see the IRD go after this: https://openbazaar.org/
Anyway, most of these big sellers are parallel importing, which will be illegal soon when John Key signs us up to the TPPA. Looks like the TPPA will kill many birds with one stone.
Have you chatted to the Open Bazaar guys?
It's a very well thought out, competent project from what I've seen.
If not, PM me - we can have a chat and I'll see if I can sort something out :)
Means there is no central authority in control, which means no escrow and instead multi-sig or direct transfers between buyer and seller. The market cannot be seized since it would be distributed, like p2p torrent. Same basic skills apply so does not require much more know-how: PGP, send bitcoin to an address, communicate by email or forum. Feedback can be maintained by a forum or distributed system. Example https://openbazaar.org/
Is there some sort of 'ebay for translations' site? If so, you could just say what payments you take. Perhaps something general like https://openbazaar.org/
This does seem like a perfect use for Bitcoin.
Huh, would have thought more people would have known about OpenBazaar. Currently in open beta. It is a decentralized marketplace that uses Bitcoin, and communications are through BitMessage. I use it - the project is coming along quite nicely.
I'd say highest priority should be in projects related to hardware support. Things like graphic card drivers, bluetooth devices and the like.
It's the reason I ended up having to use Windows in this particular machine. It sporadically restarts randomly when I run GNU/Linux for a while... and I've had bluetooth issues with a lot of machines.
If not possible, at least push for a common service online where we can find hardware that works properly with free software, with links indicating where to buy it, what drivers it uses, etc. With relevant fields and easy ways to browse and find the required data. Maybe even talk with the manufacturers and sell the hardware themselves, perhaps use OpenBazaar.
I think there was already some project started in that regard, but it was not really very featureful, not easy to browse and not a nice design.
Adoção. Quanto mais pessoas usarem a moeda, mais mentes brilhantes teremos para a melhorar. Neste momento estou ansiosamente à espera da release do OpenBazaar e Darkwallet, ambos trazem grandes benefícios para o uso da Bitcoin.
1€ /u/changetip
A Bitcoin já tem 6 anos, acho que já passou tempo suficiente para não ser chamada de "moda". Na minha opinião o melhor que a Bitcoin trouxe ao mundo foi a tecnologia blockchain, que poderá ser usada não só para trocas de valor (dinheiro, Bitcoin) mas para criar muitas outras coisas novas, como por exemplo o OpenBazaar e votações descentralizadas. Para responder à pergunta, sim, acho que a Bitcoin tem muito potencial.
1€ /u/changetip
OpenBazaar:
It will blow the entire online marketplace idea wide open and spawn an army of copycats. The concept doesn't work without Bitcoin or some other decentralized electronic cash system.
I suspect in one year, most new Bitcoin users will be arriving via Open Bazaar or a clone.
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I see cryptocurrencies becoming efficient enough that they will no longer be seen as almost purely the domain of people who can afford expensive mining rigs and those who are basically day traders on the exchanges. I would enjoy seeing people use more peer-to-peer applications like OpenBazaar is supposed to be to buy and sell using cryptocurrencies. Here's a link to OpenBazaar; it's kinda new: https://openbazaar.org/
I've used the analogy that cryptocurrencies are the medium of exchange that was foreshadowed by Star Trek's "credits," essentially a currency that is designed to be easily used in an interplanetary economy. If you watch closely in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, you'll see at least one scene in which a character paid for something using a password and a thumbprint. I see Mars as one of the first places where cryptocurrencies can truly take root without having to fight for market share.
OpenBazaar developer here. We need some help with research related to building cryptographically secure, distributed, decentralized, anonymous markets based on bitcoin. If you like cryptocurrencies, come and talk to us on #openbazaar or private message me on reddit.
I'm working on some research in the field myself; there's many topics in the area that require expansion, and it's a truly remarkable field, because the research is very applied.
If you like these ideas, stay in touch! Thanks.
Easily /r/BitMarket is dedicated towards this exact situation.
Plus you can take a look at:
Just to be clear, it sounds like the 'service' you're looking for is a marketplace system that can be used for food delivery, not food delivery itself. The 'food delivery service' would be provided by other users of the app.
The closest I can think of is Open Bazaar, but I think it's setup more for mail-order or online services, rather than real-tiime stuff like food delivery.
I think we need to put a lot more effort into maintaining multiple independent publishers/broadcasters in our community. For Amazon, this could involve anti-trust action at the federal level. There is excessive consolidation of our book (and newspaper) publishing industry. For instance: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/penguin-random-house-simon-schuster-monster-about-amazon/617209/).
But we also need to be aware as consumers. I'm lucky to live in an area with a few independent bookstores. I've made a point of supporting my favorite store through the pandemic, because I'd hate to lose them.
More generally for Amazon, we also need to devise ways to get around Amazon as a one-stop-shop for everything. The only effort I'm aware of is "Open Bazar" (https://openbazaar.org/)
great idea! check out https://openbazaar.org/ maybe you could copy that somehow but put in some rules where sats is the only currency allowed
maybe it could be attractive cuz maybe others would arbitrage off of it or something too
at some point someone will do this because bitcoin is the hardest money that we know of
https://openbazaar.org/ isn't currently being developed anymore but I've heard the current version still works. It's an open source project so hopefully someone will pick up the torch to continue the project.
You can also sell good for crypto on https://craigslist.org/ there a checkbox for letting buyers know you accept crypto. I've made a couple of sells using this.
Custodial wallet? I think you went to the wrong web site.... Here is the Openbazaar web site:
I stopped using OpenBazaar a couple of years ago, but only because I wasn't able to find much there that I wanted to buy, and also because I was making ~zero money as a moderator (i.e., the third signature used for disputes). It is legit, entirely decentralized and you control your own wallet and keys.
Not too long ago they offered parallel non-communicating clients for coins besides bitcoin. I remember that this fragmented their already small market into smaller ones. Not sure if this has been addressed since or not.
In any case: everything at OpenBazaar works. I thought that it would be crypto's "killer app" and it wasn't. I've given it a lot of thought, and I don't know why it didn't succeed as much as it should have. My best answer is that most people in crypto don't actually use it: they only speculate on the price. Also, it is "harder" to use than amazon, and the prices aren't any better.
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well.. the historical view on this sub is that bitcoin (pre small block) use to be and still is in the current bitcoin cash fork something that is cheap (sub penny fee) and fast to transact with. For small transactions like coffee there is no reason to wait for a confirmation so you can move forward in a few seconds.
I've been using my BCH quite frequently these days on openbazaar. Its very easy to use. This may change your opinion a little, and if not I look forward to your critique on the subject.
They sure have and that's because this stuff is hard. It's likely still a few years out too. You have to remember the currency ETH (for Ethereum) or DOT (for Polkadot) is not the point of the platform. The point is web3.
For example you could build a decentralised eBay on Ethereum like the guys at https://openbazaar.org are doing. Or you could enable people to get fairer returns by selling their energy directly to their neighbours or to buy energy at wholesale prices like the guys at https://gridplus.io are doing.
This stuff will not come easily, it won't come quickly but it is worth doing. Is there a lot of speculation right now? Will a lot of nerds and venture get obscenely rich this time round like they did last time round? Yup. None of that takes away from what Web3 should, can and will be. The writing is on the wall for anyone that cares to read it.
Ideas for Decred
- Implementing DCR as an accpeted currency into OpenBazaar
- Staking DCR in Ledger's Software wallet
Sure! It sounds like they are open to support more currencies https://openbazaar.org/blog/which-cryptocurrencies-are-used-in-openbazaar/
A proposla should probably pay for Dash integration and some substantial portion of their normal budget.
Is it best to intersect pre or post Evo with respect to how it would be integrated?
Huge isn't used up. You can use it multiple times. Those also have huge problems.
https://openbazaar.org/blog/trust-is-risk-a-decentralized-trust-system/
Apply this to the core ethos of monero. Thats huge problems IMO
Sure, first hand!
However, I did not find anything on their spending / transparency and the current call for donations came quite suddenly.
Being just a supporter of the project from very very early on, can only agree with disagreements with some people in the OB1 company itself. But still a supporter knowing the app is open source, no one person controlled it all, and for creating a beautiful decentralized marketplace system that has yet to be beaten. You got single coins trying to make marketplaces for their one coin where as OpenBazaar was open to all coins that would like to partake in the app. So even if you disagreed with some people behind the scenes, the app was up to the users only. Really stinks if any number of people have avoided the app based on those things when this one really needed everyones support to work for all of us crypto users (not hodlers). App is still up and running, not to late to at the least check out how far the project has come since the Dark Market days https://openbazaar.org/download/
https://openbazaar.org/blog/openbazaar-2-1-released-bitcoin-cash-and-zcash-integrated/
Apparently and zcash.
You installed a specific client/coin upon installation. There was no multicoin wallet integrated at the time.
You had to start up each coin separately. You couldn't simply choose which coin to use upon checkout like today.
You should be working on https://openbazaar.org to implement Tortuga. It's open source and already supports many cryptocurrencies. The app could really use some NANO support.
For a example of decentralized eCommerve see https://openbazaar.org/. I think it uses IPFS for storage. It also have a distributed escrow system for payment. And likely something like a distributed rating system for users and shops. Note that you still have to run something on your server.
The multisig part is how escrow is implemented.
https://openbazaar.org/blog/how-moderators-and-dispute-resolution-work-in-openbazaar/
To repeat - you cannot solve this problem without the aid of the seller, and your trusted third party. Raw transactions are nothing to do with it.
You should install the 2.4.3 version found here https://openbazaar.org/download/. If you are still having issues please send your ob.log file to and we can help you sort it out.
Here's an older article explaining the escrow process. It's pretty accurate still for how it all works and might be helpful. https://openbazaar.org/blog/how-moderators-and-dispute-resolution-work-in-openbazaar/
I've downloaded the latest bundled version from openbazaar.org and my store now loads, but upon loading I'm getting this:
Warning: Incompatible Server Version
You are connected to a server using version 0.14.0 of the server software. This client requires version 0.14.1. You should update your server to the correct version.
Download a new bundled version of the app, with the correct server version.
Download only the server (use this if you are using a remote server).
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Any idea why is my server software still outdated?
Find a family that was affected by this horrible disaster and convince them to open a bitcoin wallet.
Snapshots:
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I too have been looking for a good site for selling physical goods and was disappointed. The best option I found is https://openbazaar.org/ but every day there are more and more illicit listings.
It's still worth a look.
soon™. They've mentioned this more recently in their developer calls (available on the blog as well) but I have not listed in recently. In general, they are working on it, but I do not know how soon it will be ready.
>In virtually all it is illegal to make and use your own currency.
No it isn't. We have coupons, give cards, casino and arcade tokens, more I can't think of off the top of my head.
> REAL case could be made to push for declaring using such alternative currencies to trade an act of terrorism.
No, it can't. Free trade between consenting adults could only be considered an act of terrorism under a state that has the power to undermine freedom and consent and therefore follows no rational code of ethics. In that case, consider me a terrorist. The only legitimate purpose of the law is to enforce a rational code of ethics and no rational code of ethics would give any state the power to undermine it.
>An at that point no legitimate seller, producer, or distributor would dare accept such as a means of trade.
You underestimate the potential of human greed. Making the use of cryptos illegal would certainly inhibit adoption but it wouldn't stop it. It would create two black markets, one for the laundering of fiat used to purchase crypto and one for the sales of goods and services for cryptos, like https://openbazaar.org/.
It's in the planning phase and very much on the development roadmap. They have open dev calls and they discuss the progress monthly. Check out dev calls: https://openbazaar.org/developers/
You are not restricted to BTC... OpenBazaar supports more than one currency...
There are also protocols that help obsfucate transactions on Bitcoin (coinjoin/cash shuffle, cash fusion...)
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This this a tough one. It's already hard to sell locally produced goods because huge supermarkets and factory farming fill up most of the market. But some people do want more organic and locally produced farming. You could make a website where you list the product and accept Dogecoin or another cryptocurrency as payment. You would need to program that into the forms that generate an address and accept the payment when someone wants to order the syrup. There is also a platform similar to eBay that is decentralized and is set up to accept cryptocurrencies - (https://openbazaar.org/)