The only VPN provider I have noticed that supports wireguard is AzireVPN at least that I have seen. I am trying to get my VPN provider to support it, I'm not with AzireVPN so I don't know how well it works.
I'm looking for as much privacy as I can get, while also staying as fast as possible.
So far, I'm torn between PIA, AirVPN and AzireVPN. Which one would you recommend or are there any others I should look at? I'm in the US
Hoxx VPN (free & paid version)
Hola (free version)
VPN Area (paid version)
SecureVPN (paid version)
DotVPN (free version)
Speedify (free version)
Betternet (free version)
Ivacy (free version)
Touch VPN (paid version)
Zenmate (free version)
Ace VPN (paid version)
AzireVPN (paid version)
BTGuard (paid version)
Ra4w VPN (paid version)
VPN Gate (free version)
> ProtonVPN would have to build an entire system from scratch to automate the provisioning side of it.
Mullvad and Azire VPN have done just this. And the development for Wireguard is happening fast.
> it's still a PITA to configure
It's actually much easier to configure than OpenVPN or LibreSWAN, as Wireguard does not make usage of X509 certificates.
And the real PITA to configure is LibreSWAN, with all the certificates and that the server can only use one port. With Wireguard, you can use any port you want (like with OpenVPN).
Again, Mullvad and AzireVPN have done just this.
I have multiple backups. here are some of my suggestions (in no particular order)
P.I.A - proved in court TWICE they keep no logs
CryptoStorm - in my opinion the most secure vpn available
ProtonVPN - the devs behind ProtonMail, solid security, located in Sweden
AzireVPN - small company that takes privacy seriously, although slower speeds, more complicated setup
ExpressVPN - most likely the fastest vpn that keeps no logs
if you want more specific info related to your needs from the vpn (your traffic, devices, etc..) just pm me I have tons of experience with vpn's, and proactive digital privacy as a whole.
I recently went through the entire spreadsheet, removing providers based on increasingly stricter requirements. I was left with 4:
I'm probably going with Mullvad.
Most claim to not log activity while using a VPN, which is impossible to disprove without looking at their backend so we have to accept that as the truth, however based on the tracking activity you COULD see (their website), I would recommend AirVPN, Mullvad, AzireVPN, and
I've hopped between several. In the last 2 months or so I've experimented with BlackVPN, NordVPN, IVPN, AirVPN, AzireVPN, and PIA.
They all have their pros and cons, but I'm honestly still trying to settle on one for myself.
Quick question, Are you using Diskless Servers like AzireVPN? As in everything run off RAM.
Whoa there, chillax my friend. Many times people say don't trust Tunsafe, because it used to be closed-source. I was just saying there's no real reason to knock it any more. As for servers, they really don't cost much - especially when you made millions of dollars from inventing Spotify and selling uTorrent. ;) Besides, it's only free for the test period - just like AzireVPN was. They now charge for access via their iOS and Android apps, and they also sell static IP addresses on the endpoints to fund the project.
I would roll my own too, but it's pretty hard if not impossible to get a decent dedicated server without it being tied to your real identity. In that case, you have no privacy. Sorry you got the wrong impression from my post.
I had a couple notices before using a VPN. I've used AzireVPN and MacSentry and I've never had any issues(2 years running a VPN now). I usually stick to a VPN that is out of the country and doesn't keep logs. It's WAY MORE loops for your ISP to jump through and is most likely not worth the hassle at all. They would have to do so much to figure out what you were doing and who you were on the server.
Good job there with this overview.
Have you considered adding information if the service includes 3rd party plugins on the web site or not? I.e. statistics, chat or other kind of services that is not self-hosted.
Unfortunately, there are still many VPN providers out that that uses Google Analytics for example, which logs a lot of information about the user.
Please also update your list with the information that AzireVPN doesn't store any logs.
Yeah, I checked ThatOnePrivacySite days ago because I was looking for a VPN. And after some filters, I took Mullvad, great features and not expensive as others. The others finalist were AzireVPN and .
Hope Mullvad stay clear as it is now.
I've found this comparison chart useful:
You'll want one that does not log your activity. I haven't used Private Internet Access but I hear it's a trustworthy go-to. (I'm using AzireVPN at the moment.)
I trust PIA & Mullvad.
PIA didn't have the best of speeds all the time and I had issues with frequent disconnects, so I use Mullvad almost exclusively.
I did like AzireVPN when I used them but their limited locations puts it at a disadvantage.
I'm very happy using Mullvad over WireGuard. They support IPv6. I love that WireGurd has no connection handshake delay unlike OpenVPN.
Another VPN that supports both WireGuard and IPv6 is AzireVPN. I think it's free when used via WireGuard since they're testing the tech.
I use a custom kernel with Wireguard built in. From there, AzireVPN is actually free while they are testing and implementing Wireguard. I don't think I'll ever touch OpenVPN again after using Wireguard.
I think there is another company offering (temporarily) free Wireguard VPN service while they are implementing it, I just can't remember the name.
I’d consider Mullvad the most Privacy focused VPN in existence.
There are other VPN’s that have better speed or better customer service, but when it comes to privacy protecting and security protecting, I can’t think of any other VPN that I’d choose.
I highly endorse Mullvad.
If you are looking for a second/backup option, I’d look at AzireVPN. They have some very impressive physical security precautions used on the server side. However compared with Mullvad, AzireVPN is a much smaller network and they offer less Bridge options for circumventing censorship.
How do Mullvad, ProtonVPN and AzireVPN compare? I love Mullvad but there are some deals on.
I have used Mullvad for a long time, love the speed, but I'm considering Proton and AzireVPN with their Cyber Monday sales going on. However I also like Mullvad and Azire's early support for Wireguard.
It's the other way around - neither NordVPN nor ProtonVPN support WireGuard, but they have announced plans to. Currently Mullvad and AzireVPN are the ones who have prominently adopted WG, but as I said many others have announced they will follow shortly.
I downloaded the That One Privacy Site Detailed VPN Comparison Chart and started culling based on increasingly stricter criteria. PIA didn't survive the first round. After 3 rounds I was left with
I'm going for Mullvad.
with PIA i find my firewall off every time i used it,
netshade messed my system up,
HMA messed my system up,
with BlackVPN i had drop outs,
with Privatoria they just took my money and still till today i dont hear anything from them.
do you know anything better for mac users?
i made this list from another thread:
BlackVPN Hong Kong
EarthVPN Northern Cypress
IVPN ? Gibraltar
British Indian Ocean
I'm currently using AzireVPN, but I'm considering moving to Nord since they have a wider server selection, it will come down to price once my year is up.
NAS stand for network attached storage, which basically means you have a hard drive plugged into either a machine or router that is usable by the whole network.
There are plenty of tutorials out there, then you can customize to fit your needs once you have the basics down.
Good question. Almost every company states a "no logs" policy, however, as you can see, that isnt really the case. If they don't specifically say they don't log something, assume they do. I've had companies get in touch, who have updated their policies specifically to have their info updated on the spreadsheet. (Namely AzireVPN)
Nice! AzireVPN is really great provider.
When I was looking for VPN providers for my self, I was between Azire & Mullvad.
I finally decided to go with mullvad because of their obfuscation of protocols and integrations for anti censorship systems.
But I do like the whole concept of the diskless servers and server setup.
Wireguard is being built for edgeos if you need a fast vpn connection.
AzireVPN is offering their wireguard service for free while they are testing it out.
I'm using AzireVPN and got no issues so far. There is a free trial available if you contact them. Used PIA before Azire and had no issues other than the infinite Captcha's i needed to solve.
ProtonVPN is the only free VPN I’d ever consider recommending for those who literally don’t have the money to pay for a vpn, but if you have the money to pay for a vpn, than do it, paid VPN’s are always a better choice.
Additionally, ProtonVPN doesn’t have an open source vpn client, and they lack good technical documentation and lack a lot of feature support. All of this makes it worse than Mullvad & AzireVPN
ProtonVPN requires a ProtonMail email address, which is difficult to be setup anonymously anymore, due to their registration verification process.
So overall, it’s simply less private.
I've been using AzireVPN for a little while; what sold me on them is they have an actually-free trial (none of this credit-card-first, "oh you can just cancel it" BS), which let me test out its speed impact on my 20Mbit cable connection (result was: bandwidth -0.5%, latency +15ms).
They don't do recurring billing either, you pay and your login is active for (X months). No surprises, no being dicks; everything I look for in a service provider.
I use AzireVPN + Wireguard on Android. I got the no internet connection error the first time. Force closed the app, ran it again and it worked. Though I didn't find Spotify Free to be any better than most internet radios. Then there are the ads. And since there's no way to buy premium unless you have PayPal or a US/UK debit/credit card (which I don't), I'll suggest you to install a patched .apk, if you're okay with piracy and all that.
I am not a qualified person with broad VPN information particular to this topic, just informed by an AzireVPN admin about their server provider is bilateral (UK & Sweden) company.
Use MTR Report Tool of this website. You can see that where is the IP you used passing from.
Most of VPN providers are renting servers from datacenters in different countries and stating that their server is in A, B, C country. In your case, It might be that the server you are using to is operating in Sweden while is managing from different country or It's just caused by Youtube Cookies.
BTW, Thank you to informed me over OVPN situation. I think Mullvad is so far best VPN company that is not running suspicious business. But remember, there is always a question mark in situations that you don't have the control.
Initially, I had used a loose definition including services that claim a strong presence in any data centers housing their servers, and/or personally caged/locked or similarly secured.
After some consideration of your comment, I agree with you - many companies claim they "own" the hardware, or don't use third party servers, but ultimately this means nothing to the PHYSICAL security of the equipment housing the data, which was the intended purpose of the field.
I have removed this field from the sheet. Just in case, I reviewed all of the marketing and privacy policies of sites that had a "Yes", and none (that I caught) make the claim of a 100% in-house maintained server farm.
AzireVPN's countries supported has been verified and fixed.
I don't feel safe unless I am behind at least 9 proxies.
I even threw out my previous PC because it had a built-in loopback device (it told me on the console) that the government was using to spy on me.
AzireVPN and IVPN seem to be scoring well if you only look at green colors.
I'll try it out when I get some time. I will need to reinstall and configure Wireguard so it might not be for a few days. I used AzireVPN.
Can I learn how to do all of that through official ubiquiti guides?
I love the idea of warrant canaries and try to sites that have them like ProtonMail, AzireVPN, Tutanota, Veracrypt, IVPN etc.
There's a site called Canary Watch that watches a list of sites using warrant canaries but it's not updated any more.
Unfortunately, warrant canaries aren't perfect though and choosing to take down the canary (thus alerting users of government breach) can also be against the law and the government may force the site or company to keep/update the canary as usual otherwise face legal action - and possibly blackmail.
I'm about to move into an apartment with two other individuals. We all split the cost of the internet. I don't want to bring any trouble by getting hit with a notice cause I torrent a lot. I'm looking for a VPN that can offer good speeds for torrenting and follows ethical practices. I've looked through the spreadsheet extensively. Out of all the providers offered, I've narrowed my list down to the following. What is your experience, suggestions, gripes with any of the following.
PIA ( I dont agree with the majority of their policies, but I've heard they retain non VPN speeds, which is great for torrenting I think.)
Nice. If you want to geek out, try doing the whole thing yourself. One of the most exciting VPN developments is 'Wireguard', an open-source alternative to the very well done OpenVPN.
At the moment, it's only available if you're using a Linux OS. You could get your own VPS server ( has good deals), set up the Wireguard server and if you want the protection for your whole home network, set up Wireguard on a routing using OpenWRT/Lede.
A more simple solution would be to use AzireVPN or MullvadVPN, both are excellent services from Sweden.
Which VPN? Free ones block torrents and probably the api aswell. It's working fine here using PIA or AzireVPN. Might aswell do a clean reinstall of PCT, delete the %appdata% data of PCT.
Fun fact: surfing to gives you the Telenet server park status page :^o
Thanks for replying. As far as I can tell (from the Wiki and related Github discussion) the 'set interfaces wireguard [interface] address [address]' is what creates the interface itself. Doing (run) show interfaces lists only eth0 and l0, but running the set interfaces command for the WireGuard interface of choice then adds it to the show interfaces list again.
I already did use tab completion and address is one of the few options available after 'wg01' (or whatever you want to call your interface; I just copied wg01 from the Wiki). It does accept the command if you use a different IP and subnet (eg 10.0.0.50/24, it just doesn't work for the address given to me by AzireVPN. I just get an error saying invalid value.
OpenVPN will not be fast as you say. I have ipsec/l2tp server running that I connect to from my phone/laptop. I also have had both OpenVPN and Wireguard VPNs running that I route traffic for specific networks or hosts through.
Wireguard using Mulvad or AzireVPN will be much faster than OpenVPN, but it's a manual install at this point. The config is not that hard, I used this: [link]
>They admit on their website it is not secure and they are open to coding suggestions.
Um, they're "open to coding suggestions" because it's an open source protocol, and that's what open source means? They say it's not to be considered secure yet because it's still not mainlined into the Linux kernel (but it's now in process and Linus Torvalds himself said it's 'beautiful'). If you followed the WireGuard mailing list you'd know Jason states the 'not to be considered production ready' is an ass covering statement and actually WireGuard is fine. How do you think Mullvad, AzireVPN and others are using it without 'getting hacked'? Serious question. Why the secrecy around your VPN provider if they're working on WireGuard? It's an OPEN source project.
I'm assuming you've not read the whitepaper and the third party security audits?
Edit: Yeah, downvote but don't reply. QED.
Yeah, join to the question. Tried it from AzireVPN and Mullvad on Android and Windows, very fast and connects almost immediately, you just tap it and... It's already connected. Also I noticed long battery life with it, tbh OpenVPN drains battery pretty fast.
Why don’t you chain the VM’s, so every appVM goes through the same single VPN VM.
That way you don’t need multiple VPN VM’s.
Ps. AzireVPN is awesome. I’m a big fan of theirs. They are my second choice of VPN after Mullvad.
Damn, I go to this program that's the same way with their web filters (Instagram is blocked, not Reddit). They claim that YouTube and Facebook are banned but they're not - they also block random foreign websites, horoscope websites, VPNs (only AzireVPN seems to work), and tons of other stuff.
Edit: It's ridiculously easy to download Tor using a mirror, though.
I use AzireVPN, had them for about 2 years now and I am satisfied.
Works just fine with torrents and I have 100 / 100Mbit .. though i use vpn so I do not lose much when I run with azire. they also have good price ..... they get thumbs up!
I have verified and updated AzireVPN's traffic log field.
The "absolutely no logs" policy is echoed by every VPN company on my chart. I need specifics. If you're wondering what I'm talking about AzireVPN has the best spelled out no logs policy
Nothing works in this country. Understatement of our lives.
With PaySafe you can't buy anything, from anywhere. Even when the option is available. Older codes still work fine, but the new ones aren't accepted outside Greece. I'd imagine it's the same case with any global transaction. We are on economic quarantine. Piracy and renting are the only options...
Our creditors must be real geniuses. /s
Now, their IPs getting blocked is most likely related to country policy. Setting up a VPN and getting the Pirate Browser should solve most of these issues. But there might be a risk with their law, depending on how harsh their gov (?) is.
IVPN and AzireVPN are among the most secure.
I'd be interested to hear how you could read everything in the sidebar and conclude that AzireVPN is the way to go. The comparison chart says they have 5 servers in 2 countries. I just went and verified this. If you only want servers in the USA and Sweden, then sure. Seems pretty crappy to me.
I did that before posting. I get 3 hits, but 2 of them have no PGP key (AzireVPN and ) and I've read that that's important to have, and 1 does have a PGP key but is in Five Eyes jurisdiction (VPNSecure). Should I not worry about jurisdiction so long as they don't log anything?
You would get better pings and faster speeds with AirVPN, since they have servers in Canada and a lot more servers over all, but looking at AzireVPN's site, they seem a lot more open about their process, then AirVPN, so would most likely be better for a privacy based provider. You don't need a ton of privacy just to torrent. So you would be better off with AirVPN.
New to VPN and looking for a VPN mainly for occasional use when accessing public WiFi and that works well with iOS/Mac OS if that matters. I don't game or torrent.
Any opinions on deciding between:
I looked at Cloak but not sure that ease of use makes it worthwhile after looking at the comparison on That One Privacy Site.
Can somebody explain to me what are the risks of using a VPN which is located on one of the 14 eyes countries?
So far my preferred choices are:
The problem is that all of them are located in a 14 eye country.
So I'd like to know how bad that could be.
I contacted all of them via Email and they stated that in a case of their government requesting for my data, they will fight for not disclosing any information. (As none of them keeps logs my only concern is Financial data for tracking me)
If the risk can be high I guess I'd consider other like:
Basically, the "only" risk of using 14 eyes' VPN is the possibility of the government asking for my data, where I would rely on how honest the company is.
Or there is something else?
P.S. It's that important that iPv6 is supported? I'm not really sure, but I think have never used it
Thanks. I've looked at before and basically tried to find the ones with the most green bars. Mainly just had to try and use my eyes and found 4. AnonymousVPN, AirVPN, AzireVPN and Mullvad. BlackVPN does look good but it's a bit on the expensive side. Are there any others you could recommend from that site? I know that one of the most important ones is not having it in the 14 eyes. Are there any other really important criteria to look out for in a VPN?
Beror på vad man anser är högre hastigheter. Får ut ca 300/300 (visserligen inte full duplex) via AzireVPN, men tror min halvgamla servermaskin är en del av anledningen till varför jag inte når de 500/500 som jag egentligen har.
Neat, thanks for the detailed answer. Actually, Mullvad was my other option, I totally forgot to add it in the post.
As for AzireVPN I'm not worried by the lacking of German servers, my main concern is not being trackable when I watch stuff in streaming or I download for sites like Mega.
> As long as provider offers OpenVPN (which is the standard and is cross-platform) you will be able to use the VPN on any operating system. Some of the best (overall) are AzireVPN, Mullvad and Private Internet Access.
Good to know, thank you very much!!
>It'd be in your best interest to use OpenVPN from the command line and not use a client as it is more lightweight and because some providers offer proprietary clients (in the case of Private Internet Access) so you can never be sure what the client is doing.
I'm not that good with the command line, I spent half an hour today trying to figure out how to use xrandr to adjust my ext.monitor's scaling, the odds of me being competent enough to configure a VPN from the terminal are bleak!!
I'm using AzireVPN at this very moment so I could just jump onto their US VPN. However, it doesn't seem worth paying for a VPN so that I can pay for VRV Premium which may or may not give me access to Crunchyroll
> OpenVPN has been audited and bugs are
That was a funny audit. Right after it came out, somebody random on the Internet found even more bugs -- more critical ones -- right after.
> As for VPN providers jumping on you have two. AzireVPN and Mullvad.
Not the case!
> "anything I don't like / agree with is fud and I need to make sure people know that and how they're wasting my time when I should be working because they put a gun to my head to force me to reply!"
Obviously not the case either.
> If you actually knew something about WireGuard
Haha. You're right! I clearly know nothing about it. Uh huh...
This will be my last post on this thread. No time to feed the trolls. No appetite for fueling your FUD slinging.
Looking to start using either IVPN or AzireVPN. I'm comparing the two on the handy chart here. My ELI5 question is what is RSA-4096 and should I go for a VPN that uses it over another or that doesnt have anything listed?
Hi guys, just stumbled into this thread. The VPN provider is actually AzireVPN, see their note here;
Also they're allowing free testing of their Wireguard service at the moment, enjoy...
I used AzireVPN for a year and can vouch for their reliability. Not affiliated with the company in any way but it ticks all boxes. I’ve tested it on both panaptoclick and ipleak and both show it protects against DNS leakage.
Been playing with it in an Ubuntu 16.04 vm - works flawlessly and quickly. Wish this had a more commercially "baked" solution. At this point, it would be too much work for me to set up my VM as a proxy server for when I'm connected via AzireVPN's wireguard. Would really love to see cross-platform clients for this....
I use AzireVPN but because I live in germany and the servers are in sweden/uk, I get pretty slow speeds (downloading at 5mbps instead of the usual 50 on phone). Could be the Nexus 6p's WiFi being slow though. On PC it's usually a bit better (it's connected via lan and usually gets 80mbps vs 8-15mbps with azirevpn activated). I don't use it very often because of the bad speeds and I am looking to test/use mullvad in the future.
Thanks for your response, as a LEDE compatible device it's much more promising.
I believe AzireVPN has a free test period for WireGuard so you can just run their simple instructions and get it going (on Linux).
The service of Sweden server is coming from an ISP (Obenetwork AB) based on Sweden & UK. You are seeing SE & UK locations simultaneously at . So, AzireVPN looks like not reliable to me.
> Again, Mullvad and AzireVPN have done just this.
A few smaller ones have done it too, and more big ones coming:
I don't remember the subreddit (probably /r/vpn or something like that) but when I was researching before choosing one, I found a matrix of features / prices / geographic locations which included things like whether they keep logs and such.
I picked AzireVPN based on my research, but I'm by no means perfect. I've used them for a couple of years now and had no problems with their service at all on Linux primarily, my android phone, and also on windows sometimes. If you find one you like, by all means use it, but do know that all vpn providers are nowhere close to equal... is almost like going to a grocery store and asking for "sauce" in terms of the variety in the market.
What you definitely should not do is spend too much on one. There's enough quality among the options that you can definitely pay in the realm of $5 monthly or less.
The WireGuard service on AzireVPN is currently 100% free, while they test out their implementation and iron out any issues. It has been for a long while now, and is going to be free until they're completely happy with it. No restrictions. I've been using it 24/7 and pulled down over 1TB a month at my full ISP line speed (380Mbps). They use 10Gb uplinks and don't throttle or log. Great VPN provider tbh.
I am sure a lot of major VPN providers will start supporting Wireguard soon after it's stable release.
At least AzireVPN and Mullvad supports Wireguard. And I expect PIA to start supporting it too after it's first stable release, considering that they are actually sponsoring the project.
AzireVPN offers Wireguard for free now, while Mullvad offers Wireguard as a paid service.
And yes, it has been audited -- with only 4,000 lines of code, it is much easier to audit than OpenVPN or IPsec.
Furthermore, it should be included in the Linux kernel soon. This process has already been started.
I have been using it and it has worked very well for me so far.
PrivateVPN is okay, but they do not have first party DNS servers or IPv6 leak protection. Both of those could leave you exposed. I would recommend just getting an all-in-one VPN that provides all of those services included within the price. If you're trying to stay with a Swedish provider, I'd recommend Mullvad, OVPN, or AzireVPN.
I tried Mullvad last month and their service was rock solid using wireguard. Right now I'm trying AzireVPN, they seem pretty open and also offer a wireguard servers. While they don't have many servers the connection hasn't dropped once using the US wireguard server and aside from privacy I can't really tell the difference in comparison to the excellent service Mullvad provides. I'll probably stay with Azire just because the cost is slightly lower when you pay for various months while Mullvad is always 5 euros.
AzireVPN, I get 360Mbps with and 375Mbps without. Mullvad the same. Don't put up with shitty providers. At the same time though, ensure it's not a local issue. I assume you're connecting using openvpn? It's slow and resource heavy (not to mention single-threaded). Try WireGuard or IPSec (preferably IKEv2 as opposed to L2TP/IPSEC). What are your machine specs? You need a CPU with hardware AES (pretty much everything modern-ish), and plenty of fast RAM and an SSD won't hurt either. The following speed test was taken on FreeBSD 11.2, using WireGuard to AzireVPN. *BSD doesn't have a kernel module to offload WireGuard (yet) so there was a slight user-space speed penalty here; but as you can see, not much.
Configured my Opnsense 18.7.4 for Wireguard and connected to Mullvad. Couldn't believe how simple it was! Speed is very fast as well - much better than my original OVPN link.
Building on my success I decided to re-configure Wireguard for AzireVPN. Although everything seems to be set the same way (as Mullvad) data "upload" is not passing....however download appears to be fine??
Also, I haven't been able to configure an Interface and Gateway which is preventing me from establishing firewall rules. I can only define my "deny" rules and follow it with a default rule to send everything else out to WG0. Does anyone have some insight into how this can be done more 'gracefully'?
I answered this in a different post less than an hour ago. It's not 'free' it's a beta test before their commercial rollout. They already sell static IP addresses on WG endpoints, and have a paid iOS and Android service. Once they're happy the whole TunSafe VPN service will be paid only. Just like AzireVPN did.
I use QubesOS for everything. So I guess our threat models are different.
Also, you must not know much about Mullvad given your above comment. It’s much more private then ProtonVPN.
The only VPN that is comparable to MullvadVPN is AzireVPN.
They are in an entirely different class of security and privacy.
You can check out Mullvad and AzireVPN, both are regarded as being privacy-focused. They both cost 5 Euros/month and I've found Mullvad's speed to be good (haven't used Azire before). I would avoid PIA and any US-based service if you are looking for privacy, the National Security Agency likes to dig their claws into U.S based companies.