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It's odd that you don't believe there's a change in pitch. For many people the change in pitch is quite obvious. There is, of course, also a change in volume, but most people (not all) can tell the difference.
Tell me, how good are you at distinguishing pitch? Can you hear the difference when different notes are played, or tell when a musical instrument is out of tune?
Try this experiment (preferably in a somewhat isolated area, so you don't disturb the neighbours)
- Get an app for detecting pitch, such as this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor&hl=en
- stand by the side of the road, and ask a friend of yours to drive past with the horn going.
- observe the change of pitch on the app as your friend drives past.
Low speeds are good enough - 20mph is enough to produce a 10% change in pitch, which is audible to most people.
You could measure the pitch (frequency) of your friend's horn while stationary, and while moving at various speeds, and confirm that it does, in fact, follow the doppler "change of pitch" formula: https://formulas.tutorvista.com/physics/doppler-shift-formula.html
Isto eu identifico como uma voz extremamente bonita e muito afinada: Patricia JANEČKOVÁ Se colocar um afinador como VoicePitchMonitor, as frequências encaixam certinho nas notas. Mas este exemplo já sai da música popular.
Hey! So I've been using an Android app called VocalPitchMonitor and it's worked for me so far.
I tried your app and the other one side by side and it appears that Vocal Pitch Monitor seems to be able to 'latch on' to the correct frequency more reliably. I don't know how its iOS performance is, though. So keep updating! I do like the graphics in yours though.
These days you don't have to ask musicians to know how a singer is singing in terms of pitch. Just use apps such as Vocal Pitch Monitor or Singscope. Try it.
Hello. I would say that the better application for pitch tracking is the Vocal Pitch Monitor - it's specialized at what it does, shows a graph of pitch changes over time, and is also great at showing the information about notes/scales which comes handy (especially if one also likes to sing.) It's available from here : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
Also, the "gender percentages" the above application shows are pretty much meaningless for how gendering of voice works in the reality where the resonance and vocal fold mass/thinness are what matters the most. Pitch is secondary at most and, as I see it, whoever created that application did a huge disservice to the training community by carelessly hard-wiring some arbitrary pitch ranges into suggestions of how feminine or not the voice sounds with them.
As has already been said, you should definitely work on your resonance with the linked material, since it is one of the most important aspects, but I also feel that your pitch is very high, especially for the beginning.
Here's something I can recommend: Download something like Vocal Pitch Monitor and see the pitch of some female voices you really like and try imitating their pitches while avoiding falling into falsetto (when starting at a low pitch and sliding up to your highest note, at some point you will fall into it and it sounds hollow and very breathy). It is also important to not strain while training your voice to avoid pain, this is very important, as you don't want to damage your voice worst case. There's also women with lower pitched voices, so play around and see what kind of pitch you'd like to try and reach for!
This is the link to Vocal Pitch Monitor in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor&hl=nl
You're welcome! I hope the videos help! Maybe you could also ask your classically trained soprano friend for advice and tips (I read the other comment :P). From what I heard, the closing is an issue in the whole range, but most audible up from F4, that's when you sound most breathy to me.
The first part of Dream On sounds like pretty good mix, the second part sounds like head voice. I don't it's necessary to call it falsetto. It is head voice but it sounds breathy because it's a little strained and your chords don't close completely.
Belting past B4 is not really necessary for a beginner, but it gets so much easier with training mixed voice. Step 1 is learning to use both chest and head voice, step 2 is learning to connect head and chest voice smoothly, step 3 is learning to carry chest higher and head lower, and play around with different sounds in the mixed range. Belting is step 3.
Alternatively, you can use VocalPitchMonitor which is essentially a tuner. It can also record audio and show you the pitch and note as it is being played back.
Ahh, the nostalgic sound of Korean... :)
If you have an Android phone, download the free app Vocal Pitch Monitor and open that up while playing the video on your computer - you should be able to see where the pitch falls. It helps to adjust the settings first though - see section 3 of this guide for my recommendations.
Looks to me like her voice falls on the lower end of the female range, dipping slightly into androgynous territory - let's say between E3 and C4 (or 150 and 250 Hz).
Vocal Pitch Monitor is free and better. In the settings, change the Scale to F Major and check the box to Display frequency in Hz, and practice keeping your voice above the line at F3 (~150 Hz) to stay in the female range. ;)
You should research Vocal Pitch Monitor.
I believe there are some online versions and ones for mobile devices too.
Sing into your mic and the app tells you what note it is, and how flat/sharp!!
Also, as you're already using the guitar - you can try muting the guitar strings and then letting them free when you sing your note. The corresponding string should sound in sympathy.
I think this: "Vocal Pitch Monitor" android app is absolutely excellent for this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
Buy the ad-free version, it's excellent and about £1.50.
I found that patiently figuring out what melodies sound like, and only then checking that you've got it right with the app is a great way to learn, but if you need to work something out fast then whistling or singing into the app really helps.
On the other hand, listening to recordings or playing things on instruments seemed to really harm the learning process.
I'm using an Android app called Vocal Pitch Monitor while practicing singing. I'm sure there's something similar available for iPhone too.
I'd say the app is much more user-friendly than singing into the sound hole.
This is a reasonable (but ad-supported) tuner that you can use to monitor your pitch in real time; I use it for voice exercises: Vocal Pitch Monitor
You can actually do this within FL studio by opening Edison and choosing "detect pitch regions" which you can lookup. But I just use my phone with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor as Its faster and clearer
It might be improperly tuned. Try this free pitch monitor app. It will show the pitch of the note you're actually playing. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor&hl=en_US&gl=US
You can get Vocal Pitch Monitor and sing your melody back to it to get notes of the scale. And then there's this website that has scale finder, where you can input your notes and get both the scale that it's in and chords that you can use.
Worst case scenario, you have to brute force it. But once you know what scale it's in, you'll have around 7 chords anyway (listed in normal triads) that will most likely be what you're looking for, so it should be quite easy even if you don't know what you're doing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor&hl=en&gl=US will tell you the exact notes
Remember that music is in the intervals between notes:
- rhythmic, in the time ratio between one note(s) to the next, and
- harmonic, in the frequency ratio between two or more notes played at once, and
- melodic, in the harmonic+rhythmic ratio between two or more notes played in sequence.
A note played by itself has no meaning - what comes before and after is what defines the meaning of a sound.
You have a tool that musicians as recently as a few decades ago did not have - you can listen to virtually any music you choose at any time, and possibly even watch them.
Use this tool to train your ear - find music you like and listen until you're sick of it. Find videos of musicians you like, and observe their posture and technique. This is a very easy and reliable way to improve your own ear, especially if you try to record yourself every now and then to critique yourself.
Listen to what you yourself sound like, and try and figure out why it's different from a "good" performer.
> My plans are to get better with the instrument with Indian at one point so that I can learn Western in the future. I want to know both. I don't have super high ambitions, I'm learning it purely as a hobby and just to play for myself. Hopefully it's achievable!
This is all very achievable, but in any case it is not easy. You will have to be diligent - violin in particular is less forgiving of mistakes by its design.
Try apps like VocalPitchMonitor to check that you are in tune.
I'd get 30-40 year old man with feminine voice from this to be honest,
you still have this kinda low tone underneath the rest of your voice, have you tried looking at your pitch on a pitch monitor? I use this one, I'd suggest going into settings, enabling "display frequency in hz" and seeing what hz your at, I think female is around 240~ male is normally 140~ though people might want to correct me on that, its been a while since I've looked into it
The vocal pitch monitor app should help with this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor. Download it on your phone and then click the record button. Then you can sing into your phone and it will keep a record of all the frequencies that were inputted. Then you can easily transcribe it into notation software. I don't really think it would work that well with instruments but you can try.
I use vocal pitch monitor. I also use it for tuning. I like it cause it has a tuning type thing at the top, as well as a graph thingy as the main screen.
It helps if you are playing an instrument, or singing along to pre-record music (and/or click track) -- if you are 'off' you should be able to tell.
There are also free apps you can install to see your pitch, like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
pitch and resonance definitely sound good to me c: Its also clear you are working on raising and dropping that pitch as you speak, but i think a bit more practice would help a ton.
for me, i practice my intonation using the Vocal Pitch Monitor app and study the way it rises and falls
When you match the pitch perfectly, you will hear that your voice and the piano/whatever harmonize perfectly. The closer it gets, the more they harmonize. Practice with a piano/whatever first. Then try to sing on pitch without accompaniment. Gradually you find that you can know if you are singing on pitch.
You can download an app called Vocal Pitch Monitor if you haven't. It shows how far away you are from the right pitch. It is super useful as it visualizes how you pitch's changing.
If you think you are matching pitch only by luck, then practice more. You will gain the confidence and the ability to match pitch gradually.
Hope it helps.
Sorry for my bad English haha
If you haven't already tried VocalPitchMonitor, then I'd give it a go. I can't sing as low as you can, but it picks up first octave notes just fine when I play around on my bass.
I recently found VocalPitchMonitor but it's targeted at vocals so the instant feedback it provides is not necessarily useful for a student who plays even moderately fast. Something like this for guitar would be great!
Im using this. But im not sure whether im too stupid to hit the key in the right octave or the app is broken. Either one would be good to know
For Android, I like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor It's good for a free monitor. I use it a lot
For iOS, I LOVE https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pitch-chromatic-tuner/id1169667039
Both of these apps are available on both platforms, but Vocal Pitch Monitor costs money ($0.99 I think?) on iOS, and Pitch causes me audio issues on my POS Galaxy Note 8
I'd recommend using a real-time app like Vocal Pitch Monitor (in the settings, change the Scale to F Major and check the box to Display frequency in Hz) so you can see the drops happen as you're speaking. Try to stay above F3 and you'll be in the female range. Make sure you don't go into a falsetto though!
Check out section 3 of this guide for more details. :)
Voice Pitch Analyzer isn't a bad app for tracking one aspect of your progress, but I think Vocal Pitch Monitor is more useful for actually practicing your pitch and seeing where it falls in real time.
And definitely use the voice recorder on your phone to record samples to really track your progress, on resonance and intonation and everything else, not just on pitch. ;)
The best way is to learn to sight-sing and sight-whistle! Then you'll have instruments you can carry around all the time and practise anywhere.
Try Mark Philips 'Sight Sing Any Melody Instantly'. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sight-Sing-Melody-Instantly-Mark-Phillips/dp/1575605147/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1534804908&sr=8-1&keywords=sight+sing+any+melody+instantly
He has a really good method, work through it together and you'll both be able to sing easy songs off the score within a week. At which point music theory suddenly becomes interesting.
I'd also really recommend the excellent Vocal Pitch Monitor App https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor&hl=en to go with it.
Vocal Pitch Monitor is free, and simple to use.
Sound Analyzer App is also free and can give you more insight to how your resonance is, but it's more complicated.
Do you know if an app like this is a good way to see your current range?
I tried it and my range seemed shorter than it should be (can't remember it now though)
any other suggestions?
Don't use this kind of pitch analyzer. Voice is a lot more than pitch. A female voice can be low pitched.
Here is a good resource: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j_-8dndFzKTX0xBSF15ZEJWdw958ryh0IPKq1sz8p04/edit?usp=drivesdk
Here is a good video: https://youtu.be/ynFqjE2AEGk
Here is a better app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
Here is a subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/
Here is a discord server: https://discordapp.com/invite/FAmXNEJ
Sure! :) I shared a lot of my initial exercises here, and my more recent exercises here, but I'll try to elaborate below. Welcome to voice training - and thanks! X)
1. Inspiration
Start by watching this video for a really quick overview of the voice feminization process (and optionally, this video to learn more about the acoustic theory involved).
Your homework is to find a recording of a female voice that you'd like to be able to imitate, that can serve as an inspiration and a point of reference. Mine is this podcast interview with Keon Saghari. Start listening to it, at least a little bit every day!
2. Vocal Tract Length
Next you want to start strengthening and learning to control the muscles that raise your larynx. This is how you shorten the length of your vocal tract, from your larynx to your lips, to match the proportions of a typical female vocal tract. Building these muscles will take a while, so we'll start with this first.
Watch this video and try the swallow-and-hold exercise. You want to touch your larynx (Adam's apple) lightly with your finger, and then yawn and feel it move down, and then swallow and feel it move up.
Once you have felt this a few times, watch this video and try the "big dog, small dog" exercise, and watch this video and try the whisper siren exercise. If you're having trouble with them, it can help to start yawning, to bring the larynx down, and then start to swallow to bring the larynx up, and then stick your tongue out like a dog panting and say "ahh" in a whisper to make sure you're not closing off your throat.
Your homework is to practice these exercises for few minutes whenever you remember, throughout the day - say, whenever you go to the bathroom. They're almost silent, so you can do them anywhere and practice holding your muscles in place at the top (the small dog, or the high end of the siren) to build strength.
3. Pitch
Keep doing the previous exercises every day, but when you're ready for something more, download the free app Vocal Pitch Monitor and in the settings, change the Scale to F Major and check the box to Display frequency in Hz.
Then watch this video to hear the differences between a chest voice, a falsetto, and a mix voice (which is what you want to use for your feminine voice). Try switching between the three a few times, both singing and speaking.
Then open up the Vocal Pitch Monitor app and talk in your starting voice and see where your pitch is, naturally. A typical male speaking voice will stay between F2 and F3 (which are marked by horizontal lines, since we set the Scale to F Major). Now try talking higher and higher in pitch, until your voice is in the female range, between F3 and F4.
You might find that you start in chest voice when you're in the male range, but flip over into falsetto at some point in order to get into the female range. If that happens, just go back down to the pitch where you can still speak in your chest voice (or even better, your mix voice) and don't worry about going higher for now.
Your homework is to set aside some time every day, say half an hour, to practice speaking in the female range (between F3 and F4) or as close as you can get without going into a falsetto. You can just say random things that pop into your head, recite lines from memory, or read a book or reddit comments out loud, while keeping on eye on your pitch in Vocal Pitch Monitor.
It might sound terrible, but that's okay - the important thing is to get used to speaking in that range. Again, it's about building strength and muscle memory. Drink water throughout and take a break if you feel your voice getting strained or hoarse.
4. Resonance
Once you are comfortable with manipulating your larynx and your pitch, and you'd like an additional challenge, you can try doing them at the same time. That means, while you are trying to talk in the female range, you also start raising your larynx to reduce your vocal tract length. Then, on top of that, you want to try raising the back of your tongue to reduce the amount of space in your mouth where sound can resonate.
It will probably sound pretty bad, but that's fine! Your goal at this stage is not to sound feminine, but to keep your pitch between F3 and F4 (with Vocal Pitch Monitor) and keep your larynx raised while talking (which you can feel by holding a finger lightly to your throat). First try this while saying "ahh" with your tongue sticking out, and then while saying "hee" (which will naturally raise the back of your tongue). Then try talking while keeping your larynx and the back of your tongue as high as possible.
Your voice should sound more buzzy and brassy, which you'd call a brighter resonance (or brighter timbre), as opposed to the darker resonance of more masculine voices, but it probably won't sound great. Watch this video to hear a great demonstration of this effect - you want your voice to be in the upper-right quadrant of the diagram. Then watch this video and try some sirens and lip trills across your range while raising your larynx and tongue.
Your homework is to take your daily speaking practice, where you try to keep your pitch between F3 and F4, and spend at least half that time talking with your larynx and tongue raised as well. This is likely to cause a lot of tension in the muscles of your neck and throat at first, so do lip trills every so often to help them relax again. And of course, drink water and take a break when your voice gets too tired and strained or hoarse.
Also, keep practicing your whisper sirens and your small dog panting, but add a whispered "hee" at the end of each one to bring the back of your tongue up. This will allow you to go even higher with the siren and make a really tiny dog sound! Again, hold those muscles in place at the top to build strength in your throat and tongue.
5. Intonation
All right. Tired of straining your throat and sounding like a gremlin? It's time to start imitating some voices!
Intonation is the rise and fall of pitch as you speak. Masculine voices tend to be very monotone, where the pitch changes very slightly and infrequently from word to word, and important words are spoken louder for emphasis. Feminine voices tend to vary a lot in pitch, across a wider range, and big pitch changes are used to draw attention to the important words. Oftentimes, every word is spoken at a different pitch than the one before, and sometimes the pitch will change multiple times within a single word!
The clearest example of this can be found in that great figurehead of exaggerated femininity, the Disney princess. Watch this video for a virtuosic vocal tour through a diversity of Disney princess voices, and try closing your eyes and listening to the rise and fall of pitch in each one. You can even pull out your Vocal Pitch Monitor app and watch the pitch rise and fall on the screen!
Your homework is to spend some time every day trying to talk like a Disney princess, in addition to all your other exercises. Listen to this clip with Vocal Pitch Monitor open, watching the pitch rise and fall, and pause every sentence to try parroting back what you just heard, with the same rise and fall in your pitch. Don't worry about sounding good, and don't worry about your larynx or resonance either. Just focus on the pitch, and go ahead and use your falsetto to go high if you can. It will sound fake and silly, and that's okay - enjoy it!
The only thing that you should try to do, other than match the pitch, is to smile while you speak, stretching your lips across your teeth, and make your mouth opening a little smaller, like you're saying "ooh" (just pretend you're a dainty princess). This will also brighten your resonance a tiny bit, and make your voice sound that much more feminine. Use this for your princess voice practice, but also for your resonance practice as well, tightening your lips in addition to raising your larynx and the back of your tongue.
If you get bored of using that clip, feel free to branch out to other princess voice clips, like the video above, or just make up your own princess voice if you can. Delight in the ridiculousness of it all, and just have fun with it!
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Freakenomics has an episode about this. The singer in it goes from average-ish to Christina Aguilera "I can shove fourty notes into a single syllable" commercially successful singer, with the help of a couple moths of high quality singing coaching. She'd built up savings and it's literally all she was doing for those few months.
A less flashy example (in terms of singing style & timeframe) would be Ben Folds. He only started singing his own songs because he couldn't get a proper singer to both do a good job & hang around.
In terms of personal training, the best results are going to come from the same boring grind classicaly trained instrumentalists have to go through. Scales, breath control, and so on. There's a lot of fairly good singing tutorials on youtube - find someone you like that isn't peddling click-bait and do the exercises they lay out.
Another less traditional exercise you can do is singing into a pitch detector app on your phone. Something with with a proper pitch over time display like this. Try to sing a note, rock steady and on pitch from start to finish, for as long as you can. It can actually be really hard - for example, most untrained singers will slide into the pitch they want, rather than starting off at it (which can work, it's often intentional in bluegrass). It also gets much more challenging to maintain a stable pitch as you run out of breath, which is why singers will do breath support exercises, and use things like vibrato.
I went through his Patreon videos when I was working on the pronunciation section of the deal I'm writing, and I also talked about it with Matt vs Japan in an interview for the same deal.
What I liked
I think that, for the most part, Dogen does a good job of putting himself in a beginner's shoes -- you should be able to follow the content and take something from it, even if you know absolutely nothing about linguistics/how your mouth works. Almost everything he discusses includes nicely-done visuals, so you can "see" what you're hearing.
I personally felt that the phonetics section, which comes after the pitch accent section, was more valuable. He clearly learned a lot about presentation up until that point -- he includes references to research papers, he uses a model mouth so you can more easily see what is happening in the inside of your mouth and he shares some helpful tips that will help you get oriented in your mouth, if you haven't ever thought about what your tongue is doing in there before.
The clips are all to-the-point, in the end of each one he includes a quick summary of the key points that he wants you to cover, and throughout the series there are a few "here are the key things you should know by now," type milestone videos.
What I didn't like
I'm personally a systems-person. I like to figure out the underlying rules governing how something works and then to just follow the system, as much as possible, rather than memorizing a bunch of individual things. Oftentimes, I felt that the series included a bunch of random examples without a simple means of organizing all that information.
MvJ had a similar complaint, and he made a separate video discussing how he'd rather see the videos organized -- but he also commented that, in his opinion, the series was the best educational resource for pitch accent currently available in English (as of... more than a year ago now, maybe that's changed).
How would I study from it, personally?
First, yes, I think it is worth paying for. If you're on the fence, first check out Dogen's free 10-minute "TL;DR" video on pitch accent. If you like the video, you will like the series.
- First, binge all of the videos over a week. Give yourself one or two sentences to summarize what you felt was the key point of each video -- not a lot of detail, just something straightforward enough you can keep it in mind.
- Go back to the beginning and watch one video per day, paying more attention. As you consume content in Japanese, try to pay attention specifically to the topics that were discussed that day.
- For memorizing the patterns, download the OJAD pitch accent deck. Do not try to finish the deck; the only reason you're using this deck is to try to step back from the nitty gritty details you're getting and look for patterns. As you read through the conjugation patterns for verbs, you'll start picking things up -- eventually you just know that if it's XYZ - type verb, then [blanket rule] applies to conjugations 123 of that verb.
- Download a vocal pitch monitor (android | iOS), play your recording back and watch what happens in a given word or sentence. Then record yourself, and watch what the app says about what is happening in your voice. Compare where they don't match and then goof around, trying to make the graphs match. This is an important step because, as we don't pay attention to pitch like this in English, your ears and brain may be a bit lost. You might think you're doing the right thing, because it's a simple concept (pitch goes up, may or may not come down)... but your voice might not actually be doing what you think it's doing. Especially do this if you're having trouble telling the difference between the different patterns.
- Just keep this stuff in mind, and as you're consuming content, occasionally check the OJAD dictionary and see if you actually heard what you think you heard.
It's a lot of information, and just something you gradually whittle away at over time.
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If I were a total beginner, I would worry about phonetics first. You can also use Dogen's course for this... it's the second half of the series.
You will cause more confusion by skipping a long syllable, or pronouncing things like の or へ as dipthongs (because in English, "no" is an o sound followed by an u sound, and "hey" is an e sound followed by an i sound... pronounce these English words very slowly in a mirror and watch what happen to your lips... if they move, you're making more than one sound... if you're lazy, that link has nice audio recordings), or pronouncing せんせい as SEN-SAY instead of SE - N - SE - I than you will by goofing on pitch accent.
Many of these phonetic concepts are more tangible, lower hanging fruit, and will have a bigger impact on your understandability than your knowledge of pitch accent will.
Yay so glad you likes it, and I would love to share my info!
So to start, I have been working on my voice for about 6 months now, and I have been relentlessly trying to find a voice I think sounds natural and feminine and be able to produce it consistently. I have been able to get a pretty good female voice but I could never get it to be consistent because it it never really sounded right. I have really been struggling to figure out how to use my mouth and throat to manipulate the pitch and resonance and distinguish the two by ear, and marry it with an intonation that I like. I have felt like I have had a good voice for a while, but I just couldn't keep it up on my throat it was taxing and often hard to hear in crowded areas. I knew there was a way to project without straining as much because in my search I have found the voice in fleeting moments. Lately I have been satisfied with my voice but something was missing, and I still could not find a consistent way to resonate that didn't cause me to strain for volume and ultimately blow my voice.
So I had been watching Rue Pauls drag race lately, and if you ever watch Rue Paul he and a lot of his contestants have this little greeting of 'Byeeeeeeeee...' or 'Hiiiiiiii...'. Its very high pitch and buzzy. So I was sitting there making the Rue Paul noise because its fun, and realized that it was actually pretty loud, and high, but my voice was not straining, though it was very buzzy, I realized I could use the resonance of the Rue Paul voice to project louder and that allowed me to be less strained. So I hopped on my computer and did a recording speaking in the same feeling I used to produce Rue Pauls greeting, and it was like bingo! I figured out how to keep volume and resonate in a consistent manner. At first try it was a little nasally and kinda buzzy, but I got a recorder and after incorporating some other voice habits and behaviors I was able to get a voice consistently. It was really exciting, because it no longer was strained. Though it is a bit strained in the recording because I had been singing and stuff. I think that is one of the biggest tells when I am on track because my singing gets on point.
A lot of what has been successful for my voice has been, using a voice recorder (I used this one) that also shows your pitch and graphs the change in pitch as the recording occurs and is played back to you. I used the visual patterns of a female the voice and tried to mimic it in my voice so it reflected similarly on the app. This really helped me see what my voice behaving versus how I thought It was, this pattern matching really helped me understand my intonation. It also let me see the affect of how I used my muscles visually, and how resonance affected the sound of my voice even when the pitch was held at the same level. Using my ear and the app I was able to figure out what changes my voice and how, but until recently I have been unable to get it all to come together consistently.
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Don't use this kind of pitch analyzer. Voice is a lot more than pitch. A female voice can be low pitched.
Here is a good resource: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j_-8dndFzKTX0xBSF15ZEJWdw958ryh0IPKq1sz8p04/edit?usp=drivesdk
Here is a good video: https://youtu.be/ynFqjE2AEGk
Here is a better app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
Here is a subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/
Here is a discord server: https://discordapp.com/invite/FAmXNEJ
you can download this app to help you visualize the pitch and how off you are. This helped me a lot.
Like the other commenter said, I would work on resonance, starting with this video. You should check out everything on that channel definitely, but as for resonance that video is the main one technically. The first part of that series goes over like what's actually going on conceptually but the one I linked has actual exercises to work on. There's also one about oropharyngeal closure that can also help obtain a more femme resonance as it further decreases the length of your vocal tract. As for other resources you can check out L's guide, which is pinned here, and the discord for this sub alongside the r/scinguistics one. People on there are far more knowledgeable than me. I would only recommend staying away from pitch apps in terms of working with because pitch is only one component of voice and not the most important when it comes to gender. Testosterone-exposed voices usually have to work on it though. The best exercises for that I think are SOTVEs like lip trills and stuff, and if you focus on the weak part of your range (around 200 to 250hz for most I think?) You can really see improvement. So one thing I would do is a lip trill bouncing between 200 and 250hz, you can track that in a pitch app like VocalPitchMonitor on Android. Ideally, it would be a smooth continuous sound with no breaks or gaps on the monitor but that depends on your experience and possibly equipment.
Sorry if this isn't really focused! I'm just kind of saying what I can think of. Fwiw, I'm just repeating things I've heard that have helped me the most and I'm no professional. If you have any question about what I said just let me know!
Please don’t use this app, voice is more than pitch, here is a good comment if you want to improve your voice:
Don't use this kind of pitch analyzer. Voice is a lot more than pitch. A female voice can be low pitched.
Here is a good resource: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j_-8dndFzKTX0xBSF15ZEJWdw958ryh0IPKq1sz8p04/edit?usp=drivesdk
Here is a good video: https://youtu.be/ynFqjE2AEGk
Here is a better app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
Here is a subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/
Here is a discord server: https://discordapp.com/invite/FAmXNEJ
Hey, welcome to voice training! :D I'd recommend starting on two things: pitch and resonance. You'll want to bring your pitch up to between F3 and C4, generally (Vocal Pitch Monitor is a good app to use) and there are lots of singing exercises to do that, if you have trouble (siren exercises are a good start).
As far as resonance, check out /u/IamZhea's recent video for a great demonstration of the difference between resonance and pitch. Once you get the difference, start working on the whisper siren and other exercises described here, to get used to controlling the muscles involved. :)
Here's the link to the Vocal Pitch Monitor app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
Don't use this kind of pitch analyzer. Voice is a lot more than pitch. A female voice can be low pitched.
Here is a good resource: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j_-8dndFzKTX0xBSF15ZEJWdw958ryh0IPKq1sz8p04/edit?usp=drivesdk
Here is a good video: https://youtu.be/ynFqjE2AEGk
Here is a better app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
Here is a subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/
Here is a discord server: https://discordapp.com/invite/FAmXNEJ
Vocal Pitch Monitor on Android does most of what you said you were wanting.
Here's an app you can use to check if it's tuned https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
I'd recommend a few for Android:
- Vocal Pitch Monitor - in the settings, change the Scale to F Major and check the box to Display frequency in Hz. Practice speaking in the female range, between F3 and F4
- Spectroid - in the audio settings, change the Desired transform interval to 10 ms (100 Hz) and check the box to Stay awake in the display settings.
- Echo - easily record and play back your voice, to hear how you actually sound.
For tips on how to actually use these to practice, check out this voice training guide.
This is why I use geared pegs and this tuning app
Most people can't. That's what having perfect pitch is. Being able to recognize a note just by hearing it. Kind of like you can recognize that blue is blue. Doesn't necessarily make you better at music.
For you, i'd say go to talk to a singing coach and see what they suggest.
In the mean time, check out the resources from /r/singing
Here is a good one to start - Day one
You can also play around with an app like this
I would say don't rely on specialized apps (too much) - the apps you see in this subreddit are often not that useful (like the infamous Voice Tools with the misleading gendering circles - it has probably done far more harm than good in the overall scheme of things...)
Your main focus should be work on balancing your vocal weight and vocal size and there are no good applications to help with that (there are spectrograms, but it's a rabbit hole - they are very hard to interpret and as practice shows, people do not benefit from spending time on trying to understand how to use them.) Above that, one of the first goals should be for you to learn how to hear the changes in size in weight directly, through auditory feedback, without any assistance, so using tools may even be detrimental (if you teach yourself to focus on them instead on honing your listening skills, that is.)
A pitch monitor (like Vocal Pitch Monitor that can show you musical notes, which are easier to work with than unscaled numbers,) can be useful, but more to support practice around size (for example to learn how not to mistake changes in pitch with changes in size,) or maybe for some work around intonation (but, again, those are not primary elements that make voices gendered anyways.)
Otherwise, you may find generic applications for recording voice useful (like for example the mobile Echo app - it can record your voice and play immediately, which is beneficial, as it's hard to judge your own voice in real-time while talking, for a number of reasons {it sounds different, due to bone conduction, plus your brain works a bit differently when generating speech and listening to it at the same time.})
It's not just about resonance (vocal tract size) - it's about the balance of size and weight (demonstrations inside here: Size/Weight.)
Don't worry about your larynx position (or any mechanical movement in general) and instead listen to the changes in brightness directly (there's more to the change in size than just the larynx position.) If you have problems with differentiating between pitch and size/brightness, use a graphing pitch monitor, like VocalPitchMonitor, and while doing size-change exercises make sure that the pitch stays more or less level. If the pitch stays level and you can hear the change in the small/large, bright/dark categories, it will be the size/resonance changing.
As to the application that will repeat what you said, there's an application called Echo on mobile (it's very simple to use.)
You can use those applications on a PC too if you install an Android emulator (like MEMU.)
I would recommend not using a spectrogram. Yes, you can teach yourself to interpret it for simple sounds (mostly sustained vowels,) but the benefits of it will be very limited and the readings are often ambiguous. You should really teach yourself to rely on auditory feedback instead.
[also, adding this: I would recommend you stay away from any swallow and hold methods... don't use them - (...seriously) you risk learning muscle coordinations that will make maintaining your voice in the long run impossible.]
> Am a r/transprogrammer so haven't brought any apps yet (feel this should be a free thing for any one. Are there any?). keep meaning to code one as all the stuff learned would be neato.
in-formant is the big one that is open source
There is also friture.
On Android you want Vocal Pitch Monitor and Spectroid.
That being said, its kinda dangerous to expect free software solutions to things. They are personal sacrifices to make of time and effort, and this subject domain - spectrographic voice analysis - is really complicated, domain specific, and the apps supporting voice modification all require a lot of heavy audio math knowledge that is both rare and valuable. Make sure to give Clo a donation for her hard work if you can.
Passaggios don't matter when it comes to this. Your head voice should be included in this (unless you have already). https://www.szynalski.com/tone-generator/ or VocalPitchMonitor app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor&hl=en&gl=US
Please make sure it's G2-A4 instead of G3-A5. There are two systems that could get confused I just wanna make sure it's right before I tell you that you are a contralto xD
Yet again, so what? That doesn't stop you from singing like a soprano and tricking everyone else that you are a soprano instead, just Like Mariah Carey does xD
Even a bass can learn to sing soprano high notes. It's all technique. If you're interested in unlocking that higher part of your voice and singing literally any song you want in the way you want it (you will not lose your current ability to sing like this, your skills would only expand), feel free to pm me =) I've many free and paid options.
A tuner, duuh. It gives the notes that you sing or play.
I have used this on Android: Vocal Pitch Monitor.
iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/vocal-pitch-monitor/id842218231
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor&hl=en_US
A lot of good resources are found here: https://reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/d3clhe/ls_voice_training_guide_level_1_for_mtf/
Good luck ❤️
Websites: https://saoirse-zee.github.io/pitch/ https://www.speechandhearing.net/laboratory/ampitch/
Apps: Vocal Pitch Monitor, Voice Tools
Worth mentioning that pitch is not as important as people tend to initially assume, with resonance playing a much bigger part in vocal gender identification. For that, spectrograms can help.
Mobile: Spectroid, Spectrogram Pro
Desktop: Friture
Speech Analysis (in-progress formant analyzer): Experimental web port, desktop app (looks like it also has android but I don't really know how mobile stuff works)
> In addition to pitch, there are several registers that your voice will lock into at different points along your range, each with a different sound quality. Watch this video to hear the differences between a chest voice and a falsetto (and a mix voice, which is technically the same register as your chest voice, your modal register). Follow along with the warmups in this video, and then try switching between the registers a few times, both singing and speaking.
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>Then download the Android app Vocal Pitch Monitor (or Vocal Pitch Monitor on iOS) and in the settings, change the Scale to F Major and check the box to Display frequency in Hz. With the app running, talk in your starting voice and see where your pitch falls, naturally. A typical male speaking voice will stay between F2 and F3 (which are marked by horizontal lines, since we set the Scale to F Major). Now try talking higher and higher in pitch, until your voice is in the female range, around F3 and above. Don't go higher than F4, though, or you'll sound like a cartoon character!
I don't really get this. How do I change register? Do the piano notes matter? How do I *try talking higher and higher in pitch*?
I like Vocal Pitch Monitor https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
For Android phones, I recommend the free app Vocal Pitch Monitor - in the settings, change the Scale to F Major and check the box to Display frequency in Hz. The female range would be around F3 to F4.
I haven't tested it myself, but the closest app on the iPhone would be Voice Analyst. If you want a free app, try Pitch or Sing Sharp.
Or try the free web app AmPitch and use 150 Hz to 300 Hz as your female range. :)
Your explanation doesn't make things much clearer. Are you talking about pitch?
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- Pitch is the high or low frequency of a sound. When you sing, you create pitch because your vocal cords vibrate at a certain speed. As an example, a foghorn emits a low frequency or pitch, whereas the sound your smoke detector emits when you press the test button is a high frequency or pitch.
In singing, when your vocal cords vibrate at a faster speed, you sing a higher pitch than when they vibrate more slowly. The A just above Middle C vibrates at 440 cycles per second — your vocal cords open and close 440 times per second. - Notes are musical symbols that indicate the location of a pitch.
- Tone is the color or timbre of pitch. Tone can be described by many different words, including warm, dark, brilliant, ringing, rich, lush, shrill, and strident. An example of a singer with a warm tone is Karen Carpenter; someone with a strident tone is Eddie Murphy playing the role of the Donkey in the Shrek movies.
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So, are you looking for a tuner app or something like that?
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What are you hoping to achieve, or what information are you hoping to receive regarding your singing voice?
There is a app for figuring out what note you're singing, it's https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor
I've found this Android app to be helpful for doing these sorts of exercises.
~~This one maybe?~~
this app is rather fantastic provided your phone's microphone is good
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor This is what I use, was verified as useful from my singing teacher too, hope this helps :/