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on https://saidit.net we integrated IRC chat in to the webpage, and each sub has its own IRC channel. We're trying to innovate without reinventing the wheel. Also instead of upvote/downvote we have insightful/funny, and you can vote both.

What type of functionality are you looking for that you're not getting? Just something new?

I have this link that lets you join <strong>without an invite code.</strong> (it just lets you follow the link and click 'Join'). It also joins you to my own community, /t/underdogmusic, but you can easily leave if you're not interested in it.

Snapzu is seriously great and shows a lot of promise. It also helps that it's not trying to be just like reddit. Of course similar communities have popped up from ex-reddit users, but they don't seem to be trying to emulate it exactly, rather grow as a community with its own quirks.

Just something simple like what Imgur first used to be. Also account creation to keep track of images I've uploaded so I can reshare images without having to save urls.

I just found https://imgbb.com/. Suppose we'll see how that works for the time being.

Umm. Fyi

https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminsethbell

That guy doesn't have a PHD and isn't a scientist by any scientific standard. He has a bachelor of arts in Economics & Philosophy.

So are you a rational human being who is just stupid or a troll?

Troll! :)

> Whether a piece of work is scientific or not does not depend on the credentials of its author.

The scientific method is not applied and the person is not a scientist in the relevant field. I'm not sure how it could be anymore obvious that it isn't scientific evidence.

So I'm going with troll.

> Ben Bell is a data scientist at Idibon. He's a scientist. The work is scientific. You're lying.

Nice post rewrite. Data scientist is a hip term for statistician. Lol.

>If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

-- George Orwell

r/getaether. You're welcome.

Sounds about right. However, if I found an alternative that was actually good, I wouldn't be here.

Try hubski. Wasn't really the place for me, but they focus on long indepth conversations rather than 'news'. Lots of posts there take a while to read. I didn't like it because I didn't really get along well with the users and the long-read format was hard to do casually. On the bright side, I did get a cool hubski sticker.

I'm interested in this too. I've been checking out Mastodon and I really dig it, but I generally prefer Reddit to Twitter, so it's not really filling the same niche IMO.

I wonder if there's any way that https://lobste.rs instances could be federated.

If you're going to make an open-source project I would really recommend looking into <code>git</code> and <code>git-flow</code>

Building a reddit clone isn't hard; as a web developer, I could whip one up in a few hours. The hard part is preventing it from becoming another corporatocracy!

Please post here if you are interested in joining me on the initial board of directors of a non-profit news aggregation organization that is dedicated to it's users. I would like to know what is important to you. For me, it's important that we write a solid constitution that ensures the integrity of the organization going forward.

I have a domain name "demcra.com" that we could use as a starting point, but of course the board could choose a new name entirely. The name "demcra" came from shortening "democracy".

Reddit grown organically hosted in a decentralized manner that is impossible to unilaterally censor.

Voat is close to my ideal except that being centralized it is vulnerable to shutdown, and that the circumstances of its growth (growth largely fueled by exodus’ from FPH and CoonTown

Reddit was close to this ideal as well aside from being centralized and heavily censored these days.

In changing from the formerly free speech place into what it is now, reddit bait and switched the community and made it incredibly difficult to bootstrap a viable alternative.

My ideal reddit alternative sounds a lot like what u/yishan was planning https://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/07/06/reddit-came-close-to-becoming-decentralized-last-year/

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Is there any other libre reddit alternative that supports activitypub? Prismo seems to be dead.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy and https://join-lemmy.org/

These devs have made significant political decisions (global slur filter) and are opinionated, but that does not detract from the solid ActivityPub implementation for reddit-likes that they have pioneered. Several Lemmy forks already exist to address these issues.

> No love for PeerTube?

First time I'm hearing of it.

https://joinpeertube.org/en/#instances-list - looks there are a lot of instances for new users to choose from to figure out the best option. Somewhat overwhelming, but I'll check it out.

If the instance you decided to upload your videos to goes down, they don't stay up on other instances right? They're gone forever?

There's quite an interesting proposal in the site on how to reduce confirmation bias:

In poll discussion threads, show as the top comment a comment posted by a person that voted different from you, but that was most upvoted by people who voted like you..

The fined tuned voting categories thing is actually quite common on forums now. There's a XenForo plugin for 'post ratings' that adds this stuff:

https://xenforo.com/community/resources/post-ratings-taking-likes-to-the-next-level.410/

And IPB 4 has it built in. So the system is at least becoming more common now, and works well.

Yeah it seems like activity on the site has dropped quite a bit. I did notice another infamous powernod in that thread too though, N8theGr8

https://tildes.net/~tildes/3sd/is_there_a_space_for_the_extremes_of_alt_right_on_tildes#comment-142y

A tabletop subgroup was recently added, so hopefully there will be even more RPG talk in the future.

edit:

Sent you an invite in PM in case you need one. Just ignore it if you're already a member.

From the time you put tildes.net on here, it has risen to over 1000 registered users and an alexa rank of 840,000 worldwide and 90,000 in the USA. The site is quite active now. u/18andover, could this be updated please?

Hey, on Disqus.com we're building what we think is a more approachable way of participating in communities and discussions. We call them channels and they co-exist with all the websites that use Disqus for comments (which is what most people know us for; we're installed on over 3.3M websites)

> https://raddle.me/f/Shoplifting

"Rule 3: Stay on topic. This forum is about appropriating capital from retailers and nothing else. People that rip off regular working people aren't welcome on this site."

it's right there on the sidebar

check out https://saidit.net it's not decentralized but we're trying to do reddit right. I guess we prohibit porn and trolling only. content policy

I like your tagging idea, but what prevents spam tagging or shittagging to dilute a topic? Does the tag itself need an upvote/downvote? I suppose that even if a tag's page was more spammy than a curated sub's page, it'd still be valuable, like you're saying. SaidIt is using the reddit model on purpose, but I suppose this tagging could be overlaid on top of the existing model.

> how can you actually impose a term limit on a person when they use anonymous accounts?

I hear you, you can't. I guess I was hoping that elections and mod rotation would make things more difficult, to at least slow their roll a bit.

> but hey. lets take a step back. why do you even want moderators so bad in the first place? did reddit just brainwash you into thinking they are necessary? you are trying to solve a problem that doesnt even need to exist.

Ha, maybe I have been brainwashed. Mods enable curated communities where rules can be enforced. Maybe the issue is that some subs are too important to have mods? All of the default subs could have no mods on purpose and the admin team would just step in to enforce the content policy?

> why should online be any different?

We did add IRC chat. https://saidit.net/s/all chat will probably turn into a noisy bar in no time.

What you want is called a forum. Forums are typically dedicated to a single topic and members of the forum normally hold similar views. For that I’d recommend Discourse. Each forum is closed off from each other and members have to actively join them.

The point of Reddit (and other link aggregators) is to give the feeling of small forums but put together into a single feed. This requires that users either see everything the site has to offer or it requires them to tailor their view of the website. To use your example, Reddit currently allows tankies to deny Tiananmen Square and the horrible things Mao’s communists did to the people of China. At the same time simply admitting to voting for Trump could get you banned as a “nazi”. Everybody’s definition of acceptable content is different. Tankies are just as bad as wehrboos, but nobody can be trusted to ban both. The only option is to not need trust and simply allow both (within the confines of the law). Otherwise you might as well stay on Reddit.

It's an important point. It seems like quite a few of the new platforms that were founded on good intentions have been pulled in that direction. Minds is another example. One of the ideas we have to combat this problem, which may get built into the platform this coming year, will be to give users the option to flag content as offensive. If a branches moderators confirm that to be the case, the content would then be hidden unless a user has manually toggled on offensive content in their accounts settings. That way we can hide offensive content from the majority of users whilst still giving the users who want to see it the choice to leave it visible.

There's not many alternatives for a globally distributed ledger of information that can be securely verified.

Keybase.io uses the Bitcoin blockchain, https://keybase.io/docs/server_security/merkle_root_in_bitcoin_blockchain

Another alternative would be Namecoin, although that project is somewhat dead in the water so perhaps it's not as good of a solution as it once could have been.

No, private user data like IP addresses would not be federated. Voting fraud should be detectable when it's being targeted against a single provider using the methods I mentioned above, but the hard part would be doing the same across multiple providers controlled by different people. I think this really depends on how user identity is managed across peers.

I don't think the cost of running a text only server would be very high (binary would be another matter) so ads may not be an issue. It doesn't matter if small sites don't get much traffic, the main point is that the content is federated and not under any one company's control.

Distributed/decentralised discussions is a really hard problem. Some interesting comments in this HN thread about it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9987679

Did anyone notice that a previous thread mentioning Lemmy was removed from /r/RedditAlternatives?

https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/s0176j/lemmyml_doesnt_allow_adult_content_but_theyre/

About the ban, if you dont like the way lemmy.ml is moderated, you can always join another instance. Each can make its rules and moderation completely independently.

We dont allow porn, but there is nothing wrong with other adult content (maybe it needs to be marked as nsfw). I am not familiar with "free the nipple", but if its text only like /r/freethenipple, there is no problem at all.

By the way, lemmy.ml is only one of many instances. If you dont like it you can always choose another one from the instance list, or create your own. Thanks to federation, you can interact with users from different Lemmy instances.

>I said Adsense it was just an example they already denied us lol

So you'd want to use their services, but they denied you the service so now you'll

>have to go with some other option

as you said.

That doesn't it make it look any better.

Why do you think Facebook is unethical and Google is not?

I bet you're probably using a gmail email too, instead of <em>something</em> that respects your privacy.

No. What you're describing does not exist. We must accept a fundamental change to how we use the internet for this to happen - which means paying for things again. I'm not talking about paying a centralized entity, rather, true decentralization (a janny-free experience) will require people to use their own storage and bandwidth to support it. There's also a host of technical problems to solve.

A non-reddit alternative (if you just want communication) would be https://matrix.org

I tried it for a while, but as it was in beta it kept changing so I just tired of it and will check it out later. There is(was?) not a lot of discussion, just a lot of posts. Currently my favorite reddit alternative is Hacker News https://news.ycombinator.com/ http://hckrnews.com/

They sure do. We are actually officially listed surprisingly enough. https://join-lemmy.org/instances . Although I wouldn't be surprised if they blocked us eventually. I'm trying to help out make some better filtering tools right now. Just busy with family life.

imo there isn't enough demand to make a reddit alternative that censors just like reddit. There is huge potential for a censorship free platform. Or atleast a very low bar to it. Ruqqus proved that at it's height.

Great thing about federation is different instances can experiment with different policies and everyone benefits from any growth anywhere.

Yeah basically. They can block you though when ever they want. They can also block specific communities from other instances. For example covidHoax on wolfballs is blocked on lemmy.ml . The user bases are way to different to get any productive conversations anyways. To get on their official promoted list you need to abide by their code of conduct. https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/code_of_conduct.html . But if you look at the instances on the instances list I don't think all of them are. Only one is listed as blocked. Some of them are just obvious spam instances.

https://lemmy.ml/instances

If you make an account on a lemmy instance that has enabled federation and look up a foreign community in the community list the foreign instance will then show up in the instance list.

The way federation works is a instance will send updates to all instances that have asked it to federate on every update.

Directly from their site

> Why do I care about communities being democratic? You have a motorcycle. You love it. There’s a b/motorcycles community on Aether. You post a picture of your bike, but it gets deleted immediately. Why? The mods of the place are bored of seeing too many bike pictures and they want to make the community a more “serious” place.

Nobody’s wrong in this case, the mods are right because they probably see way too many regular bike pictures. But you’re right too, people want to post their bikes and be happy about it as well. Who wins?

As it stands elsewhere, the mods. The fact that they are mods gives them ultimate authority over regular users. Isn’t that a little weird? Where does that authority come from? Just from the fact that they were there first?

What Aether does is, you can actually disable the mods that you don’t approve just for yourself, and those disables count as an impeach vote. If majority of the community agrees, the mod loses mod rights for a while for everyone. That makes it so that Aether communities are places where the content is what the current users of the communities want, not those who were there first by chance.

Read more at

https://getaether.net/docs/

The only site I know of that uses the ruqqus codebase and not drama is ThePinkPill.co

Here is a list of various instances of open-source reddit alternatives. The "drama" section lists some (or all?) of the sites that use drama's codebase.

Mastodon has a large variety of clients available for iOS, Android and other platforms.
https://joinmastodon.org/apps

Lemmy also has clients for Android and iOS.
https://join-lemmy.org/apps

Don't know anything about pixelfed.

> are they anonymous

What does "anonymous" mean to you? Are you talking about 4chan anonymous or reddit anonymous?

You didn't specify your platform (PC, iOS, or Android), but you might want to try alternative clients such as Sync on Android. Sync doesn't indent so much and instead uses colored vertical lines to make it easier to see where responses are connected. It also has a button under each reply to quickly pop up a box showing the comment that reply was responding to.

Has it been improved? The first build was almost a year ago and the commenters on Hacker News quickly found problems with it:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6787807

I tried it for a while and it was not very functional back then - kept hanging up or losing its network connection.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/reddit.com

50% of reddit's traffic is from the US, and the vast majority of the rest is from english speaking countries. Reddit's penetration with the non-english internet is dismal. That leaves about 4 billion people on the planet that reddit fails to reach.

IncogSnoo is based on Teddit ( https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit/ ), an open sourced reddit reader.

Unlike other installs of Teddit, this is an updated/enhanced version with a dual pane reader, reset the hard limit of 25 posts per page with 100, some performance optimizations and it's sponsored by a web hosting business so it's safe to say it'll remain online unlike some of the hobby installs that come and go.

It is also available on the Tor, I2P and Yggdrasil anonymity networks! ( https://incogsnoo.com/about )

It's almost completely replaced old.reddit.com browsing for me, since I lurk 99% of the time and works pretty well on mobile, though I still find myself using the RIF app.

Uh they are showing something better. You're looking at it when you click that link.

https://postmill.xyz/

The lemmy programmer decided he could do better than them a year ago and completely failed.

For reference to build your own ruleset, if you are interested here are the saidit rules that apply specifically only the moderators: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/w6s/saidit_rules_for_moderators/

What about GitHub/GitLab?

Telegram also may be a good alternative with its groups and you can read everything you want on one of their special site:

> Telegram groups are a powerful tool for building communities and can support up to <strong>100,000</strong> members each.

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If I'm not mistaken, the source code and/or the API for reddit is public. You could look that up, and it probably comes with some instructions. I think Voat was built off the same code as reddit, with some changes.

If that is too complicated, you might be able to just use/integrate into your site an old school "forum". there are a bunch of free hosting sites for that, and probably some paid options as well. you could also setup and host your own using phpbb. the problem with old school forums is topics go to the top anytime someone replies to them, which isnt always ideal, and can be abused. that might be too simple or easy for your project though.

as for keeping it PG, you will probably have the same issue reddit does, you will need moderators to remove content, and suspend/ban users. if your site gets enough traffic, you will probably need some kind of spam fighting bots too.

I think single sign-on is outside the scope of SIOC. The purpose of SIOC is to connect related conversations across the Web, so for example if you're viewing a comment thread on a particular website, that page could display links to related content, from either elsewhere on the same site, or other social sites or forums. Single sign-on could be provided independently of SIOC, by implementing one of the applicable standards like Mozilla Persona or OpenID.

There is already Aether which is a peer-to-peer distributed network (no central server) which allows democratic management of "subreddits" where you can vote mods in or out. Subs can be voted up or down too. All mod actions are transparent to users so no posts just "disappear".

But to achieve the light-weight between peers you link to graphics and media, and don't upload it into posts.

Posts are ephemeral and disappear after 6 months if no interaction with them.

See https://getaether.net

Maybe not "just" starting out, but I'm building lotide, a federated reddit-like using ActivityPub.

Because it's federated, communities and users can exist on different servers, running different implementations, which preserves the independence of the network.

Unlike some others in this space, the federation is already working, and I think at this point what I need most is users and feedback.

I'm adding it but I have to add it as https://dev.narwhal.city/ because that's an actual reddit alternative. I suggest you guys add a link from there back to https://sr.ht/%7Evpzom/lotide/ edit: nm about the link I see it there on the about page

Those are both nice IDE's but I really love PHP Storm... And if I ever use PHP Storm again with GitHub, it has amazing conflict resolution automation. But I'm sitting on 8gb of ram so that's enough for PHP Storm lol. Atom.io is interesting. I like the FTP feature in PHP Storm. When I hit CTRL+S in the IDE, it instantly uploads and overwrites the file on FTP. I used to work for an advertising company and made wordpress plugins for them on a dev team of 10 people, and as soon as I brought up the topic of PHP Storm, everyone switched to PHP Storm lol. They have a Ruby version of the software as well https://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/

If you're going to make an open-source project I would really recommend looking into <code>git</code> and <code>git-flow</code>

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll definitely check it out.

Though from what I've seen, the site suggested still suffers from the same issue. You go to a lot of lesser tags (which should be extremely popular) and they're almost empty. The last post under gaming was 5 days ago:

http://hubski.com/tag/gaming?time=all

And that's the issue. I go to normal gaming forums with far more activity there. A Reddit alternative has to be more active than that.

> Hubski

Never heard of it, but thanks.

Site

Wikipedia: Hubski

> Hubski is a website community for sharing thoughtful information and conversation. Many people compare Hubski to reddit, hacker news, and other news aggregators. In addition to sharing content from around the web, users are encouraged to share their own original content.

If you really want a UI like that, you could build one using the reddit API and display the data any way you want.

I have never tried it, but there is at least one desktop reddit app: http://reditr.com/

I was waiting for Voat to get an API which they might have now (/v/voatdev haven't looked deeply yet) but this can be done with an app on the mobile devices and on desktop apps like http://reditr.com/. Keep in mind that it could violate TOS of reddit. Voat too, but they're more likely to care less about it.

Since your idea is the same as mine I'll have to agree with you, this would be the easiest way. People could subscribe to subverses and subreddits at their leisure and it'd be seamless.

O.k. here's an unabashed plug for headcycle.com - basically a reddit clone I built for fun.

For anyone who checks it out please be gentle (it's built to withstand a good amount of traffic but not a hug of death).

Check it out and tell me what you think.

As for the OP's initial question - I really don't think any clone can dethrone reddit, instead it will be a something new and different that a younger generation will embrace and as of now no one knows exactly what that will be (but it's probably an app with a website on the side).

I'm talking about phpBB-style forums. I've always loved the IPBoard/Invision look, for example like what the Minecraft forums used before they adopted their own software.

But yeah, I don't care what software it runs, I just would like to use the kind of forum with threads and replies, where you have an avatar and a signature, post count, BBcode, etc.

Ramble.pw allows all right wing viewpoints, just like any other viewpoints, to my knowledge they have no right-wing threads though but that is just because they userbase is small.

Not sure why exactly you think so. This shows an average of site activity within the groups, and the site specifically aims for higher-quality discussion so it's likely going to be easy to find instances of people trying to clarify communication when there's good-faith disagreement. If it doesn't tickle your fancy though, no biggie.

Any site whose defining feature is a lack of moderation will draw a community and content that are dominated by the type of content that is moderated elsewhere.

Give how incredibly (excessively, I would say) lax reddit's moderation is, that means that any community forked out from here on the promise of lacking even that is guaranteed to be predominantly racists, bigots, and pedophiles.

But to answer your question, yes! I am an enthusiastic fan of tildes.

Any way of getting to know some of the users you mean? Well, you can have a look at the introductions thread, or just hang out in the comment sections of the ~talk group. Don't be afraid to start new topics either.

I at least partially agree with all your points, and I still consider Tildes the most promising Reddit alternative.

Regarding the thread bumping issue, there was an update to this feature yesterday, so it's clear that this is something the site owner considers important.

>I miss Imzy.

Same.

Yahoo Answers and Quora aren't proper alternatives. They are meant to provide straight answers (although they often fail even at that in my experience), while AskReddit is more about the personal anecdotes.

Check out ~talk over at Tildes. It's not as lively as AskReddit, but it might be more what you're looking for.

You can self-host Tildes, but it's not a turn-key system and I wouldn't recommend it unless you're pretty experienced at sysadmin-type stuff and will be comfortable figuring out a lot of the aspects on your own. However, I'd also say the same thing about self-hosting saidit (or reddit) - I worked on reddit's code for years and there are some really ugly pieces of the code/infrastructure with a lot of potential for causing issues. It's not very hard to get a reddit instance running, but there are a lot of pieces that can break and you'll need to know how to fix them.

If you want to try Tildes, I wrote more in this thread last week about the types of things you'll need to know how to do, and the actual commands that should get it up and running on a fresh server.

There's no mobile app for it, though I expect people will create one once the main site has a working API. Development of the site's features and community takes priority, though since the site is open source it's reasonable to expect that the pace will pick up as more developers contribute to the project.

In the meantime the site is built to work perfectly in a mobile browser. You can turn it into an app-like icon on Android using apps like Anker and Hermit, see here for details. I believe on iOS you can drag/create an icon for the site natively without any extra apps. Either solution will give you the convenience of opening the site as an icon on your phone. Tildes will recognize you are using a mobile browser and change its interface to accommodate that.

Tildes is a wonderful alternative that I've, recently, become involved with. If you want to know more about it, then you can read the wiki here.

Some have complained about the process in which to receive invites to this alpha. These are unfounded. I contacted the founder and got an invite within hours.

Also, I have invites if anyone is interested. Don't worry, the capacity for me (or anyone else there) to generate invites is limitless since the founder will provide us with more upon request.

Are you just looking for a different content aggregator? Some users here have suggested an RSS feed, and that certainly works. There are alternative websites to Reddit, though. I think Tildes is a good one, for example. I would be happy to give you an invite if you’d like one.

There's Tildes, created by Reddit ex-admin Deimos. The community there is generally more level-headed than here. It's still in alpha so you can see but will need invites to create account.

Tildes is very similar (well, very similar to old.reddit.com), but funded by donations and Patreon.

Invite only for now, but you can easily get an invite over at /r/tildes.

Yes but blockchain is to an effect also federated, in fact better than federated in many regards. Maybe just add a box for "on blockchain" or something. You are also missing like about 70 social media platforms that are blockchain based, you have the popular ones though. https://flote.app is a big one not on the list.

phuks and poal does that with the "m" tag for multis: https://phuks.co/m/cabbage+broccoli+foxes

There's also a way to save the multi to a short link - https://phuks.co/multi/24

It's currently just a /new feed of those subs, but hot sorts are in the works

Looks good visually. Yeah public mod logs & ban lists, that's great.

I don't think it's enough though and I don't see other info about other methods to address the issues I laid out. https://phuks.co/welcome

You're shameless. Claiming people said things they didn't say and then refusing to link to it. Where I come from, that's called gaslighting.

>lmao What the flying fuck are you even talking about lmfao this is literally exactly what I'm talking about in terms of fantasy stories

Now you're pretending you're not the person who got into a fight with a trans woman who didn't want ace people in queer spaces?

Unlike you, I'll actually back up my statements.

https://raddle.me/f/memer/62782/-/comment/101045

Literally no one else on raddle has complained that the site is 'acephobic'.

I was looking at raddle when I saw this

https://raddle.me/f/Whiteness

Literally called "Death to Whiteness".

Why can't there be just a normal reddit copy with normal people? Why does it always have to be either batshit insane fascist morons or crazy lunatic marxist morons? Why is man drawn to extremes so bad?

That would happen if you used bloated code (like reddit's old source code, which costs $100 a month even with no users, and then rapidly increases the more users you get).

But if you use efficient code like Postmill (https://raddle.me), the starting cost is just $5 and raddle currently costs $20 after 2 years of building its userbase to current levels. Even with thousands of new users coming over from r/piracy, the bandwidth costs have barely increased.

The terms of service is very clear about what isn't acceptable. There's nothing debatable about homophobia, misogyny and white supremacy. If you think it's okay to proclaim you want to gas the jews for a minute and then 'go back to being nice' then don't go to raddle. It's not for you.

But for people who can somehow prevent themselves from being hateful racist shits, the site is easily the 2nd most active reddit clone and literally the only one that gives a shit about user privacy and security - that's why there's an onion address for tor users.

And idk why people are downvoting the post when I'm being completely honest about what the site stands for. It's not posing as some kind of 'free speech' site. It's a site for people that give a shit about other people and don't want to see them be abused for being black / gay / etc. If that's not your thing, voat exists. Plenty of other hate-filled shitbags you can hang out with on there.

These posts do go against Saidit's pyramid of debate and rules, which prohibit name calling and sexualization of children.

Notice that all of the accounts posting the terrible stuff are 1-2 hours old. Likely the 2 admins just haven't checked Saidit in the past hour.

u/magnora7 u/d3rr

I want to add the SaidIt codebase to the viable for hosting list. It's much improved reddit open source with some tweaks of our own that are undo-able. I'm sure it's not as friendly to run as Postmill, but there's documentation and community support: https://github.com/libertysoft3/saidit

Hm yeah good ideas, I'll think it over some more about the best approach.

I just announced our new public modlogs on saidit, thanks again for the inspiration: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/cyw/saiditnet_feb_13_2019_new_rule_sub_moderator_logs/

Yes, it one of the main focuses of the site. We built it because we didn't like the limitations of reddit, but also found voat not to be particularly useful because of the overwhelming amount of race-based material, so we made a 3rd alternative.

Here's saidit's welcome message if you want to read more about how it's different: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/37r/welcome_to_saiditnet/

Saidit has sub wikis, since it's a reddit fork. You can see a wiki in /s/DecentralizeAllThings, for example. Not aware of any other alternatives that have them, sadly.

try [saidit.net].

We have a 2-upvote system, with no downvote. It lets you sort things by funny or by insightful. We get 80+ new posts every day. We're not politically polarized to one side (and proud of it).

Here's our welcome message that explains more: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/37r/welcome_to_saiditnet/

saidit is trying to check these boxes. it has two upvotes, no email requirement, and has this pyramid of debate as a content policy.

The new page shows the same content as the home page, just sorted differently, as intended. If you want the newest things you're subscribed to, go to the subscribed tab, then the new tab. https://saidit.net/s/subscribed/new/

Saidit is designed right now to maximize content visibility because it's still small. So if you want those features they're available in the "subscribed" area.

How important is Free Speech to the developers of Saidit?

Free speech is essential for me in any platform. As such I trust Minds.com over any other Facebook alternative because of their complete dedication to protecting free speech.

Is there any guarantee that Saidit will not develop some sort of admin-led political bias similar to what happened to Reddit, such as suppressing certain right-wing or morally-gray pages (who I do not support or endorse in any way) from getting banned, reaching the front page, etc.?

For instance, will a subreddit like /r/FatPeopleHate or /r/SoccerStreams get banned on Saidit?

Ultimately is free speech a core principle of Saidit?

>While we had a massive internal debate over this policy, we decided (at least at the beginning) that there is a fine line between helping intellectual discussion grow and allowing absolute free reign of content (to avoid turning into another Voat). The challenge will be to balance between this fine line, and avoid skewing in one particular direction.

This is what concerns me. I personally do not like to use Voat due to the exclusive alt-right dominated content on that platform. However, I still support it over other similar alternatives because free speech is a core part of their philosophy and constitution. This is similar to how I trust Minds.com over any other Facebook alternative because of their complete dedication to protecting free speech.

The fact that Darto.com developers even considering curating certain kind of opinions over others is worrisome to me. Where is the guarantee that Darto will not develop some sort of admin-led political bias similar to what happened to Reddit, such as suppressing certain right-wing or morally-gray pages (who I do not support or endorse in any way) from reaching the front page, etc. For instance, will a subreddit like /r/FatPeopleHate or /r/SoccerStreams get banned on Darto? If Free Speech is not a core driving philosophy of Darto then there is no guarantee that boards like those would be protected in the future.

Please honestly tell us, is Free Speech a core philosophy of Darto.com? If it is, why is there "debates" over allowing free reign of content even if it is at least at the beginning? What guarantee exists that Darto developers will be hands-off once the platform takes off?

Mastodon link because I know you guys are lazy fucks who are adverse to the inconvenience of standing by your principles and leaving the warm suffocating embrace of Reddit.

>Does anybody know if there is an app to navigate that website?

sure. try this one or this one.

Hmm I'm not sure how that happened. I guess there's a lobsters cryptocoin or something. I did come across this though: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.jsbn.lobstersreader&amp;hl=en_US&amp;gl=US

I think it's fixed. The SaidIt app now works in Android 4.4 and probably 4.3. Give it a shot if you're still interested.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.saiditnet.redreader&amp;hl=en_US (Current Version 1.9.9.2)

atob has an android app. atob is a textboard which uses colors to denote users instead of usernames or tripcodes. It's a pretty chill community, you might like it.