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Wanna hate the world? Watch Congo, My Precious.
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Some discussion here.
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Separately, this also does a decent amount of work for those who have an anti-tech / anti-civilisation critique.
Who will go down into the mines when we are free?
She almost singlehandedly kept this sub honest. Did more work than all the other mods combined. This is really fucked.
There's also a big gaping hole now re: active women on the mod team because of this. She was consistently the only mod that stood up for anarcha-feminism since the last purge of mods by the admins. The only active mod that was willing to talk back to manarchists and brocialists.
The suspension notice claims she approved a post containing 'personal information'. The post in question:
If anyone needs to reach faolin (even just to thank her for her tireless work), you can do so on raddle where she mods several forums including:
Just click on her name on the mod list there and shoot her a direct message.
EDIT: Just talked to faolin again. She had no idea there were names of nazis on that twitter feed. She glanced at it on her phone and approved it without seeing the names. She's really broken up about it because she devoted so much of her time to maintaining this reddit sub.
She has to approve a flood of comments and posts everyday, has one slip up, fascists notice it a week later and flood the admins with messages demanding she be banned, and they comply.
Reddit admins are just shitty. Mods volunteer to spend hours a day maintaining this site for the admins and reddit shareholders without pay or any kind of gratitude, to keep their cash flowing so fucking /u/spez can have his private yacht and bugout survival island, and they just discard them like trash without any warning. And then the mods are left feeling like they wasted years of their life.
Reminder that Raddle is a thing.
Raddle: What is wrong with reddit?
Edit: I hadn't heard the bad things about raddle until today. Definitely something to keep in mind; thank you, friends.
raddle.me is a decent alternative that does not tolerate bigotry of any kind. They're also good with privacy. It's pretty small right now, and thus lacks content. But if we really want an alternative to Reddit then we have to be the frontier users.
Let's translate some of his doublespeak
>I have psychotic stalkers who have been threatening to murder my family for years
"Leftists keep speaking ill of cops and my dad is a cop"
>Yeah, more fake screenshots
"Fake news!"
>d--b shit that people merely disagree with me about.
I.e. his liberal views
>Oh no, I have different opinions on violence and free speech than other people, I'm Hitler now.
"I like cops and capitalism isn't that bad and fascists should be able to march freely"
>I had no idea that person was identifying as trans because until recently they referred to themselves as a cis man.
"Misgendering them was fun but now that people are calling me on it I'm going to claim ignorance lol. Also make up a bunch of lies about them in the process."
>They (raddle.me) openly tried to crowdfund my doxx and murder
"the person I just misgendered (lol) talked about how I doxxed them and gave the doxx to fascists, who then tried to get them fired lol. So I'll accuse them of doing what I did to poison the well."
Rule 1: Where to start?
This very literal island of socialism cannot exist within the very vast sea of capitalism that will literally surround it. It's not even much socialism even, just social democracy; OP wants to build a country, with its own constitution, that will export culture and import minorities (no matter how many times I read it, I still cringe), that must be both multicultural and homogeneous.
So much for a radical left site.
so I originally made this post. I wanted to get it to the top of all alltime, which is 46 votes. The site is so slow that they noticed 12 votes in an hour and an admin removed it.
https://raddle.me/f/crypto/moderation_log
Then the admin that removed it just reposted it in /f/communism instead
The person who originated most of the weird fucked up accusations against me has made a career out of manufacturing dozens if not hundreds of alts to talk to themselves all over Reddit (as well as filling their own dead sub with alts to make it appear life-like) and make the appearance of real conversations, usually to smear someone with some kind of fake bullshit.
I mean it's a waste of time to go into detail but I'm habitually the only person with archive links to anything which should tell you something.
That was made by this user Ziq who has had a roughly 3 year history of stalking me and losing their mind about my existence. They're deeply disturbed, express violent tendencies, and are all around a freakshow of a person. They made a bunch of subs to go after me here and populated them primarily with their own alts, which they delete and re-create every now and then (hence all the "deleted" authors on that sub).
>A carpenter might be good at making cabinets, an expert at it even, but that doesn't make them an authority. Their talent doesn't give them the right to assert authority; power over anyone. Authority is not simply an isolated instance of a person using force. Authority is a distinct on-going social relationship between people. A coercive relationship that has been legitimized by our authoritarian hierarchical society. It's a relationship where authority figures assert power over less-powerful individuals in their care. These individuals are expected to submit to this mighty authority figure and obey their commands unwaveringly.
>###Is there a gender neutral form of the expression "madlad?"
>At the school I go to, I am often referred to as such.
9/10
Not really a great place to post this, but the fucking weirdo who kept fabricating those screenshots about me just got exposed on their Reddit knock-off (called Raddle) as having spent months creating gigantic numbers of alts to troll and harass themselves and make an entire website seem filled with activity when there were only single digit numbers of users. Check this hilarious shit out.
I really understand how people can disbelieve the lengths that some people online will go to show how mad they are about forum slapfights, but once you experience it a few times nothing will shock you.
https://raddle.me/wiki/anarchists_against_democracy
https://crimethinc.com/2016/03/16/series-the-anarchist-critique-of-democracy
This meme is wrong.
Democracy is an -archy; it wants rule by the masses. What anarchists want is no rulers. Democracy is inherently anti-anarchist.
There was a "fork", or whatever it should be called, a year or so back... I have not saved the link, after some duckduckgoing I find https://raddle.me/ which looks to be it. It may be what you are looking for.
God I fucking hate Engels’ stupid fucking essay.
- http://www.anarchistrevolt.com/critiques/engels/on_authority_a_response_to_friedrich_engels.html
- https://youtube.com/watch?v=UYiK55UxQrA
- https://raddle.me/wiki/expertise_vs_authority
Engels conflates authority with force and influence and thus asserts that everything (including boiling water; a slave revolting against their master would also be authoritarian by Engels definition) is authoritarian. It’s such a dumb, bad faith piece that idk how the fuck ppl still take it seriously.
If you use Engels’ definition of authority, which includes a slave revolting against their master as authoritarian, then yes, all revolutions are authoritarian.
Here's a good summary, largely taken from the r/postleftanarchism sidebar. It probably doesn't hurt to think of it as 'internal' critique, or alternatively as an emerging conversation, a tendency that found its name after Bob Black got his critique of Bookchin published (Anarchy after Leftism)
The anarchists influenced by post-modernism often described their stuff as post-anarchism, which is a bit of an odd term.
Anarchism is arguably an apolitical project/movement: We don't want politicians or police, we don't 'support' political programs, and for anarchy, we'll have to abandon the polity-form of social organization. The “left” originally referred to the seating arrangements in the French Assembly during the Revolution, and my eyes it still only makes sense to talk of leftism in terms of political and governmental differences between parties and policies.
Plus, the vast majority of leftists actively oppose anarchy, so at some point we might wanna ask: What do we get out of that association? What use are leftist tactics and frameworks if we want anarchy?
I like how user sadeofdarkness put it in the recent r/debateanarchism thread:
>I think democracy in all forms isn't a good idea (at least interms of anarchy) and requires as a prerequiste the creation of borders (your commune), personifying the collective will and elevating it above the individual (itself a hierarchy of command and control), sufferage (who can be involved in this democracy?) and authority (if the collective is making a decision and someone dosn't go allong with it are you going to compell them to obey?). All things that are pretty incompatible with anarchism. Direct democracy is a sham - its just direct government while trying to not use the word government "and if the whole People, claiming sovereignty, assumes Government, one seeks in vain where the governed will be". > >[...] > >The only way to make "democracy" compatible with anarchy (which is how it gets crowbared in repeatedly) is to water it down so much that it becomes a general vibe as apposed to any particular form, i.e. you have to avoid this elevation of the collective will over the individual such that it is no longer a democracy in anyway. At which point it is - functionaly - useless as a term, subscribed to only because it makes people feel nice. If this is what you mean by direct democracy then fine, but your wording is somewhat missleading and inprecise, and will lead to a lot of people advocating for very non-anarchic forms.
For further reading:
Anarchists Against Democracy: In their own words. Check out some quotes and links in there, it should give you a pretty good idea on how and why anarchists oppose democracy.
raddle.me exists. I don't browse it often, its usually pretty slow, but when all the lefty subs are inevitably shut down its as good a place as any (that I am aware of) to migrate to.
> What sets this site apart from others is our no-tolerance policy for bigotry and reactionary ideology. Users that demonstrate a pattern of intolerance or attempt to use raddle.me as a platform for far-right ideas and bigotry will be seen as violating these Terms of Service and will be banned from using this site.
They don't define bigotry, so it's just another form of "Hate Speech".
> Content Policy > > Content is prohibited if it > > Promotes white supremacy, homophobia or heterosexism, transphobia or cisgenderism, misogyny or patriarchy, classism, ableism, body shaming, antisemitism, Islamophobia, colonialism or age discrimination. > > Sexualizes minors or promotes adults having sex with minors. > > Trivializes or makes light of rape. > > Apologizes for police or military brutality, imperialism, eugenics, genocide. > > Apologizes for violence towards children. > > Is a pornographic image/video (however, nudity is permitted if it's non-pornographic).
Power corrupts. Notice how it explicitly states you cannot promote misogyny, but promotion of misandry seem to be allowed.
Edit: removed confusion about heterosexism
Put simply, from an anarchist POV, authority is an ongoing and coercive relationship of domination and subordination. It is not, as Engels insists, the use of force or voluntarily following someone's influence.
For a good overview of the concept of authority from an anarchist POV, I'd recommend that you check out:
Yeah, it's rebelsdarklaughter. I haven't went through all this years-old bullshit stirred up by the gang of alts ran by this psycho ziq/dragonoa/10000 other alts, but my understanding is that rebel had a teenage cousin who had their life ruined by the cops for sleeping with someone a few years younger. This was by all means greasy but not pedophilia, and the charges were probably racially motivated, which happens a LOT when white parents get mad that their daughter slept with a brown or black guy a couple years older. As an anarchist who hates the cops and the State, they think that no laws have legitimacy.
Personally I strongly disagree and think shit like age of consent laws generally protect children from predators and the immediate problem is racist police selectively upholding laws like that to punish black and brown youth. I don't think it makes you a pedophile to just default to "the community can deal with predators, we don't need the State" either. But to put it mildly it's not even remotely my hobbyhorse and that shit makes me intensely uncomfortable to talk about.
edit: since one of the alts of the psycho linked above is now saying I'm blaming "racism" for pedophilia, I think anyone who is even remotely literate can read my comment and understand what I'm talking about, which IIRC has been the focus of several major debates where a black kid got in trouble for sleeping with a slightly younger white girl in the South. I don't know why \/u/dragonoa or whatever other alts they're using today is so obsessed with pedophiles but I'd like to stop talking about it now.
check this one out, the head mod/admin populated the website mostly with their own alts, then made them start feuding with each other, dragging in the few other real people and turning the site into a one-person warzone
https://raddle.me/ Is a slowly growing reddit alternative. Right now its basically all politics which is good but I hope it picks off so there are spaces to discuss things such as model making, tabletop RPGs, gaming, etc that aren't dominated by the usual alt-lite white dudebro demographic.
To quote ziq on raddle.me: "Authority is not simply an isolated instance of a person using force. Authority is a distinct on-going social relationship between people. A coercive relationship that has been legitimized by our authoritarian hierarchical society. It's a relationship where authority figures assert power over less-powerful individuals in their care. These individuals are expected to submit to this mighty authority figure and obey their commands unwaveringly."
This pretty much sums up my feelings about what authority is. So situational authority would not be the kind of authority that anarchists oppose. There is no coercion involved in your example situation here.
Raddle of course. Shifty reddit nerds will slander it to stop anarchists from jumping ship to it but it's by far the best anarchist community on the internet.
And it's booming lately:
It was written before the current pandemic so I imagine that some of today's anarchists have significantly better ideas now, but this may still be of interest to you: An Anarchist Response to Ebola.
More important than how we would deal with these issues in some future society that in all likelihood will never exist, is how anarchists respond to it in the lives we actually do and will live.
A range of articles with anarchist responses can be browsed here.
If you are interested in more general public health questions for anarchists in terms of academic work and projects, I just came across this resource list.
I think workplaces shouldn't exist. By that I mean the workplace as a political entity, as a tiny dictatorship with a CEO/capitalist ruling their ~~citizens~~ employees.
What has made me suicidal is not any specific workplace, but living in a world where going from place to place to beg for an opportunity to sell my time is considered 'freedom'. It's not something we can make workplaces accountable for, it's an antagonism that can only resolve in the abolition of the workplace.
related: No Future for the Workplace
give Raddle and/or Lemmy (dev.lemmy.ml instance) a shot. They are run by leftists and the community is left-leaning. They both take a hard stance against hate speech and bigotry.
I have no experience with Ruqqus although I would, of course, be wary of any reddit alternative which highlights "free speech" as a selling point
edit: I took a look at ruqqus so you don't have to. It's just tumblrinaction, clown/frenworld, smuggies, etc. Cesspool is absolutely right
tankies makes your accounts on https://communism.lemmy.ml/
anarkids are already set up on https://raddle.me/
they did in both chapo and chapo2, only a matter of time before they come for this one too
it's all fake except the taking over a nazi sub part
you may be interested in the person who originated most of these accusations though
For fuck's sake, not the /r/anarchism weirdos after me again.
None of what you said is true except the fact I just took over a nazi sub which is why there is no proof. Everyone buying this shit, keep in mind that all these accusations originated with this psycho motherfucker.
Why does it take 2 months to update your terms of service? Why don't you volunteer yourself to update it?
Here a snippet from your site. You might want to refresh yourself with it:
Not updating a terms of service within a reasonable time is a serious concern.
That's the only thing he said with a morsel of truth behind it:
https://raddle.me/f/lobby/561/comment/576
But of course he blows it completely out of proportion in typical Prince_Copfucker manner. When I said 'gofundme' I was clearly joking.
Reddit is biased actually. Just look at what fascists are allowed to say without any consequence whatsoever.
This was linked above in the thread, and it was pretty enlightening: https://raddle.me/wiki/what_is_wrong_with_reddit
> EDIT: A representative has informed me that the TOS is outdated, and that 24 hours is correct.
Just so people are aware the TOS is 2 months out of date. While that rep did clarify the 24 hr rule this isn't a good sign for the site's management and administration.
>Raddle.me is currently the only reddit alternative that: is run & developed by its own community (of anarchists and Marxists)
>* implements strong anti-hierarchy safeguards
>* uses direct democracy to elect/remove moderators and decide on site design/features, rules & procedures
>* has moderator transparency logs built into the code
>* has clear procedures to recall moderators that abuse their positions
>* has no advertising, tracking, profiling or profit-incentives
>* is completely free and open source
>* has anti-oppression safeguards built into the terms of service
>* guarantees no platform for fascism or bigotry
I'd make jokes about these people, but they're determined to do it for me. I'm tempted to check it out just to see how much of a shitshow that ends up being.
Maybe you aren't an anarchist, and that's fine. I can only invite you to spend some time with the anarchist critique of government and authority, and the developments on anarchic alternatives (key words probably being free association, apolitical social organization, the federative principle, learning to live with some uncertainty, and consistent opposition to every 'external imposition'). If only because it's valuable for any consistent anti-authoritarian.
A network of small democracies would probably give rise to some freedom in how we choose to relate to each other, some freedom from larger polities like the state. That seems like a taste of what anarchists are trying to get at, but we're ultimately not satisfied with 'having a say' in how to be governed as members, while authorizing "the commune". Rather, we seek to rid ourselves of that externalization.
I think direct democracy is as contradictory as it gets, and I my mind it has nothing to do with anarchy. The demos refers to the political unit, and when you govern each other in its name, in the name of a shared identity of sorts ("the people", "our commune", etc.), you got a cracy. Government of all by each, government by the people. It is precisely the kind of externalization and mediation anarchists want to abandon. Adding a 'direct' doesn't resolve the contradiction; that's about as silly as a horizontal hierarchy.
As far as I can tell, the anarchy/democracy confusion is a fairly recent development, you can often trace it back to Bookchin or Occupy. Check out some links in Anarchists Against Democracy: In Their Own Words for various anarchist takes on democracy.
I remember the same thing was said by the users of r/leftwithsharpedge after they banned that one like 4 years ago for ACAB memes (don't listen to the brocialist / transphobe-sourced smears that keep getting echoed about that sub, it was completely lit).
It'd be awesome if you would post this on raddle.me too! Most of the people there are very well educated, but won't contribute to what's happening on Reddit. Hope to see you there.
It's faked and this entire subreddit knows this, they're just really trying to get my attention because I've been mocking /r/drama lately and they've been getting pretty pissy about it. Here for example is the original comment, I got that when Uneddit used to work. The username just had an underscore after it and they Photoshopped it out. Extremely weird shit from the force behind LeftWithSharpEdge & Raddle.me and master of a million alts.
The podcast is also a different person speaking, hilariously enough.
They appear to be mostly migrating to a social media app called peach:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EDFood/comments/9x5err/peach_app_username_masterpost/
Also looks like some are attempting a move to raddle: https://raddle.me/f/ProED
It wasn't deleted, it just came unstickied when a new thread was stickied. The emergency backup is currently https://raddle.me/f/socialistRA although socialistra.org should have a forum open within a few days, so then there'll be two.
Look up into what anarchist-communism is actually about. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works I can also tell you that there are various anarchist differences, such as anti-civ or post-left. Basically you could see anarchism more as a tradition. The values every anarchism direction (except anarchist-capitalist, fuck that!) shares is: Mutual aid, Autonomy, no hierarchies, voluntary association, direct action, no reformism because only these with power make changes to forever have hold of that power, and self-liberation.
The book mentioned above also mentions various societies that were anti-authoritarian and how they managed to stay anti-authoritarian.
Now, there's also the post-left critique of specific anarchism such as anarchism-communism: https://raddle.me/wiki/postleft
Authority ≠ influence or force. Authority is an ongoing, coercive relationship of domination and subordination. It is not authoritarian to (say) have non-coercive influence over someone or to fight back in self defense.
I recommend this essay by Ziq: Anarchy Vs. Archy: No Justified Authority
> Plenty of anarchists identify as socialists (see social anarchism)
Just adding that anarcho-individualists are socialists as well and most of them identify as such too.
They're two very different approaches.
There's communism as an ideology/movement, and then there's communism as a system.
While plenty of anarchists argue that communism (as a system) is desirable and highly compatible with anarchy (aka anarcho-communists), there's no anarchism as a system equivalent to the communist end-goal. In other words, there is no end-goal to anarchy that we can compare to the communist society model. Anarchy is about actively working to end authoritarian relationships wherever they exist, and build non-authoritarian alternatives. What that looks like is up to us.
You can have communism and still have authority. And you can have anarchy and not have communism. They're compatible, but not mutually dependent.
Ziq, aka Nowaydaddioh, aka about 5000 other alts, was the main force behind LWSE and is the owner of Raddle.
> One of these 2 accounts was postcivver, which was me holding back a lot like you'd do in polite company. But the other was defasher, which was an extreme unfiltered version of myself. Anti-civ, post-left, full-on nihilism, fuck the world and fuck you.
> I'd say the real me, if such a thing exists, is probably in constant conflict between those 2 personalities. The hopeful postcivver that wants to create a better, greener world, and the cynical defasher that just wants this society to burn.
There's obviously a hell of a lot going on there but they often spread weird primitivist shit in one of their Joker LARPing moods.
LMAO taking some obvious ironic jokes and saying some drama is funny is evidence that I'm horrible now?
Why the fuck are you in this sub? Don't you have the word "idiot" to ban somewhere or some catgirls to hyperventilate about?
If anyone is interested, most of this drama shit was due to this extremely psychotic weirdo ziq (OP of the above post laying out their M.O.) who manufactured dozens if not hundreds of alts to talk to themselves and try to go after me on a literally years-long stalking spree. They later turned that hobby onto their own dead website to try and bring life to it, driving away the few other users there. Hilarious but disturbing.
>There's a big difference between a black person identifying as an Israelite and a white supremacist saying fuck ni*****.
You really should read more than the title and do a little research. The SPLC (southern poverty law center) has come out and warned of their rising militant ways and again more recently.
>As God’s “true” Jews, BHI adherents believe that Jews who self-identify with Israel are “scam artists” and imposters. BHI adherents believe they are divinely empowered by God with superiority. Some BHI adherents have been prone to violence, which they feel is justified by God, as long as it helps rid the world of evil. BHI members have targeted whites, “fraudulent” Jews, Asians, abortion providers, and homosexuals.
This isn't about identifying with Israel. This is legit hate and racism.
> linking to a movie scene and discussing it isn't the same as a user deliberately and directly making rape jokes
It is a literal rape joke. So as long as users link to other's rape jokes they're ok as long as they don't make them directly. Got it because that makes total sense. /s
>All your examples are clearly art
Again this is the dumbest shit I've heard. Society got past the idea of obscenity years ago. The line between porn and art is indistinguishable.
>The porn rule was overturned actually. They just haven't updated the tos yet
That is grossly incompetent. How does it take 2 months to update a wiki page for a site.
It's so easy to miss! I frequented it for months and all was great until one day one of the mods (the most active one) started harassing one of the BAME subs (with which they are weirdly in war) and demanding from them a 'non-CIA' proof of the Uyghur genocide. It was one of the weirdest posts I've seen on reddit.
The worst thing about this bunch is that the mods are worrying great at cleaning their mess up. Any anti-tankie stuff gets immediately muted and they also remove their own pro-tankie posts.
Here's quite a good 'investigation' of the tankie epidemic on the leftist subreddits (some good links also in the comments): https://raddle.me/f/lobby/129535/i-think-it-s-also-time-for-me-to-leave-reddit-a-conspiracy
Chomsky has one book on Anarchism, a disjointed collection of barely on-topic essays and interview transcripts, compiled by someone else for the hype around Occupy. That's his contribution. No mention of anarchy or anarchism in any other of the 100+ books he's written/published.
Chomsky read Rocker and Guerin, he knows a bit about the syndicalist movements of the 1930s, but that's it. Anything before or after, he doesn't care about. He spends much time promoting and donating to politicians, shaming people into voting for the lesser evil, but not once in the past half century did he join in on the broader anarchist discussion.
He introduced entryist weapons like "justified hierarchy" and "legitimate government", and he seems more interested in democracy than anarchy.
There's no reason to believe Chomsky knows what he's talking about, not when it comes to anarchism.
Surely, nothing could be more unrealistic than to keep everything the way it is and expect different results.
Anarchism is not a dogma or a blueprint. It is not a system that would supposedly work if only it were applied right, like democracy, nor a goal to be realized in some far-off future, like communism. It is a way of acting and relating that we can put into practice right now.
Or, in other words:
>Anarchy describes a particular type of situation, one in which either authority does not exist or its power to control is negated. Such a situation guarantees nothing—not even the continued existence of that situation, but it does open up the possibility for each of us to start creating our lives for ourselves in terms of our own desires and passions rather than in terms of social roles and the demands of social order. Anarchy is not the goal of revolution; it is the situation which makes the only type of revolution that interests me possible—an uprising of individuals to create their lives for themselves and destroy what stands in their way. It is a situation free of any moral implications, presenting to each of us the amoral challenge to live our lives without constraints.
There are some exiles setting base at Raddle and even some posts explaining the situation.
I didn't know of that site, but taking a look at it, it seems like an alternative already set up to what you are calling for.
It is somewhat. Means TV is sorta like a vice for Leftist/anti-cap content. At least from what I recall when they were talking to the creators on the podcast.
I'm talking more along the lines of a raddle, which could just be what I'm asking for. its just extremely small. We have 110k people here, 29k patreons, and who knows how many follows on podcast apps.
There needs to be some nice central way to organize and support a community. Its why banning subreddits is extremely effective, because they don't really have a centralized place to go. At least something advertised by the podcast would get some traction.
On that note, how much ground could reddit actually have for ban evasion if another leftist sub popped up not related to the podcast? maybe a sub that tries to host as much content away from reddit as possible could be a good stepping stone.
raddle is an antifascist privacy-centric free-open-source and advertisement-free reddit that I use together with reddit
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they also have an onion version for extra privacy
UPDATE:
rebelsdarklaughter has now been removed from the EarthStrike project by its coordinators:
https://i.imgur.com/Zf7TTJd.jpg
UPDATE 2:
His 'Beer and Rage' youtube show has also been removed from the Leftist Youtube Master List.
- http://www.anarchistrevolt.com/critiques/engels/on_authority_a_response_to_friedrich_engels.html
- https://youtube.com/watch?v=UYiK55UxQrA
- https://raddle.me/wiki/expertise_vs_authority
Read these. I get second-hand embarrassment when I see Marxists try to debunk anarchism by citing an essay where Engels calls boiling water authoritarian.
It's an actual long-term problem. For example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People%27s_Association_in_Manchuria got conquered. There are several ways. Post-left Anarchism for example thinks that there will never be the revolution. https://raddle.me/wiki/postleft
I guess anarchist-communist society would build up a temporary army like Rovaja does to defend itself against capitalism.
That's not really what Egoism is about, it is closer to a critique of philosophy.
It's about identifying the ideological factors which are holding you back.
(Note: there are lots of "Egoists" that don't actually understand what Stirner was saying, they're just selfish pricks)
Anarchism is actually not democracy. Democracy is ruling as a majority. Anarchism, besides a few direct democracy advocators, uses the consensus system, where everyone agrees on rulings. It's a bit more complicated, though.
More about the democracy part
There are 'fundamental' differences, for lack of a better word. Someone on raddle wrote a (provocative) post on the topic: Anarchism has depths that are not easily seen
As an ex-Marxist, Marxism really doesn't have much to offer for a critique of government and authority, and if that were the only real difference, I would be inclined to say anarchist communism is the tendency to water down anarchism for communist purposes.
raddle fucking sucks, it's run by a genuine lunatic who fills the website with their own squabbling, abusive alts
You know they'll ban you at the same time for being an offshoot of the other sub right? They always do that.
Raddle is the future of the reddit left. Spez is shit scared of revolution like the spineless little bourgie he is.
> That’s interesting because I always thought that anarchism was against all authority and domination.
It is. They’re wrong. So was Engels.
More on authority and expertise: https://raddle.me/wiki/expertise_vs_authority
Good takedowns of “on authority”
http://www.anarchistrevolt.com/critiques/engels/on_authority_a_response_to_friedrich_engels.html
> Other comments however say that democracy doesn’t exist in anarchism as a majority would have a hierarchy over a minority.
That’s the correct take. Anarchists oppose majority rule and thus oppose democracy. Historically, all anarchists have opppsed democracy but then American anarchists like Chomsky and Bookchin came along conflating democracy with freedom and thus ppl started saying “anarchy is direct democracy” and “anarchy is democracy taken seriously” and all other kinds of bs.
It’s a great resource.
And Raddle is generally more accepting of this kind of post.
Hope this helps.
Oh, one last bit of advice.
Don’t look up to adults, we’re kinda assholes.
https://raddle.me/wiki/leftunity
>The left / right paradigm has nothing to do with anarchy, really. It was created in the days leading up to the French revolution, to differentiate between those who supported the French republic (leftists) and those who supported the French monarchy (rightists).
>A politician in the états généraux who sat on the left side of the king favored the republic, while those sitting on his right favored the monarchy. Of course, neither side wished to abolish authority. Both left and right were clearly in favor of the state, regardless of who got to rule it.
I'm not a fan. Marxists (leftcoms) aren't tankies, but they're still high on authority because Marx just took Proudhon's critique of capitalism and stripped all the anarchy out of it.
I wrote an essay about it here:
They've obviously decided they don't want to give air to anti-capitalist viewpoints any more. This is a really obvious attempt to quietly shutter the biggest platform for leftwing organizing on the internet, banning it at the same time as that fash hive the_donald so they can play the "both sides" narrative.
I think it's time to set up accounts on https://raddle.me/ or whatever other leftist alternatives there are before the entirety of left-reddit is wiped out and we don't have a chance to re-group.
The only person spreading malicious lies is you.
https://raddle.me/f/Anarchism/83253/were-the-makhnovists-anti-semitic-and-pogromists
Not to mention the creepy atrocity denial towards the end of your tirade.
Oh no, another conspiracy theory about all my supposed alts. They were mostly/all made by this weirdo, not me.
MegaLinks is already on raddle, though it hasn't built quite an active following yet..
The new forum is going well. I just hope the mods can add external RSS support (via API key like other private forums). RSS is much preferred vs checking manually for updates.
The first step is to stop thinking of anarchy in terms of 'the community'. if you put the desires of groups before the desires of the individual, you've created automatic authority because now everyone in and around the group is going to be forced to conform to the majority's will one way or the other.
anarchy isn't, or at least shouldn't be a program to govern a society with. anarchy is the resistance to authority. so anything that creates authority or has the potential to create authority needs to be constantly resisted.
that should be the default position for any anarchist.
then whatever builds from that, even collective action or group decisions or whatever, will have that strong, anarchistic position as a starting point and so will be much harder to corrupt.
This essay of mine might help:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ziq-against-community-building-towards-friendship
or the raddle link which I prefer because it links to my patreon:
I don't really believe in 'being informed' on what's going according to mainstream media. With some activity on social media it's difficult to avoid being in the loop anyway, it always trickles in — and most of the information thrown at us doesn't turn out to be all that important.
For anarchist media, check the sidebar of raddle's f/Anarchism. I like a-news and whatever CrimethInc is doing. Should be good alternatives, at least if you're interested in what anarchists are up to.
Anarchists oppose democracy. It's not an anarchist construct.
Democracy is ultimately a form of government. Without the line-drawing, political abstraction "the people", and without the governing of each other in the name of a shared identity of sorts, you're left with some anarchy. There are clear differences between democratic and anarchic principles; it takes some serious downwatering of ideas to conclude the two are reconcilable.
Banned a few years ago, there's r/shopliftingmemes/, f/Illegalism on Raddle, and there's also r/IllegalLifeProTips but it's a lot of garbage you have to wade through.
If you want a window into the mind of the 15 yr old red fash who did this, raddle did an AMA with them to try and understand why they became a tankie:
https://raddle.me/f/lobby/117866/ama-now-closed-i-m-grace-creator-of-r-genzanarchist-f
The reason they gave is hilarious.
Raddle actually did ban the kid who did this lol. It's ironic because the kid made the raddle sub as an alternative in case the reddit sub got taken down and then raddle banned them for being under 16.
It was hilarious:
https://raddle.me/f/lobby/117866/ama-now-closed-i-m-grace-creator-of-r-genzanarchist-f
Reddit isn't gonna ban them though, the mod team hierarchy on reddit gives full power to the top mod.
I guess it depends on what you want to get out of it? Neither are great introductory texts, in my not-too-humble opinion.
Probably a good place to start with anarchism is with the idea of anarchy:
>Anarchy is the opposition to authority, the rejection of hierarchy and the unending strive for autonomy and self-determination.
You probably already knew that much. So, where do you want to go next?
Do you wanna learn about anarchist history, projects and movements in the past? Read anarchist analysis/critiques of authoritarian instutions? Anarchist approaches to ethical questions? Anarchist theories of property, state, the individual? Read about anarchy as a living and breathing praxis that we incorporate into our everyday lives?
My suggestion is, start with whatever interests you the most. Maybe what interests you the most really is Kropotkin's case for communism, maybe it is Goldman's attacks on a variety of authoritarian nonsense. But maybe it's something completely different.
Hierarchies exist for rulers to maintain their social control & power over the population. This control is maintained with violent force by authorities appointed by the rulers: the army, national guard, police, courts, prisons, social workers, media, tax collectors, etc.
I prefer self-determination and autonomy. "Why is authority bad" is kinda like asking "why is freedom good?".
SubMedia's What is...? series is pretty good.
I think some of the people from anarchists worldwide are in that country, it would probably be good to ask them.
insurrectobot over at raddle is part of their crew, if you want to contact them there.
Chomsky's liberal anarchism that implies there is such a thing as justified political hierarchy is not anarchism. (some reading here)
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"Mandatory as in: to make people" is not anarchism.
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Your flair says anarcho-communist. That's what I was referring to.
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Please read about how actual anarchist schools in the present work, and how they envision themselves being in an anarchist world, before you talk weird stuff that makes anarchy look only a little different from this state-capitalist hellscape.
The sad truth is that Lenin and Trotsky were just as oppressive to anarchists, communists, workers, peasants, and ethnic/religious/sexual minorities as Stalin was. Stalin only gets most of the beef because he ramped it up in order to enforce industrialization. The section about Lenin here only scratches the surface.
If you want to level-up on your shoplifting praxis, you can check out the pros over here. They have a detailed wiki of useful things to know and some of them are getting away with thousands of dollars of merchandise in one trip.
It's like voat, but less cancerous and with no tolerance on hate speech. They cover it in the wiki that they linked in the OP, and you can even freely browse f/Piracy's mod log without having to sign in/up.
It'd be cool if you also posted stuff to https://raddle.me/f/Brasil also, seniorcafe. There are a few users based in Brazil there but they keep their presence low for security reasons.
For anyone who is interested, the person who owns Raddle (OP) once had a mega meltdown after filling the website with their own squabbling alts. Dragonoa is ziq.
We listed a number of alternatives that support free speech ordered by global Alexa rank. Gab and Voat weren’t even listed first (I was a bit surprised by the list tbh)
https://getaether.net launched 2.0 after my initial draft and is worth a look as well.
If you’re less interested in free speech absolutism https://raddle.me and https://tildes.net are good potential alternatives.
Unfortunately the American left seems to have abandoned support for free speech as of late so those alternatives that focus on it tend to attract right wingers disaffected with other platforms.
Gab’s CEO is IMO far too partisan to credibility run a neutral free speech network, but I respect the attempt and wish them the best.
Voat’s leader does not wear his politics on his sleeve other than support for freedom of speech and I like that. But it is true that the dynamics of voat’s growth (fueled by subreddit bans) has led to an incredibly right leaning site. This to me says as much about Reddit as it does Voat.
I get the frustration, but we shouldn't forfeit popular mediums to right wingers. Raddle.me is good if you want a leftist forum, but we need to use both if anything. Agitate, comrades!
Quit lying.
https://raddle.me/f/Anarchism/41644/why-do-anarchists-insist-on-slandering-anarchist-projects
Links to a completely different comment by a different user.
Goddamn this site is filled with creepy liars.
That's really unfair. That list was copied from reddit and then edited by the raddle community to remove the red fash.
Since that list is on reddit and you are on reddit I guess that means you're pro-tankie by your logic.
And pro-nazi too.
> Engles made a semantic argument. He was right. Sure, he’s being pedantic & contrarian, and sowing confusion for no reason, but he’s correct.
Did you read this lol?
> If you cannot substantiate that he isn’t correct, I’m going to keep thinking his argument is correct, and I’m going to keep stipulating “not all authority”.
As for “not all authority”...
> Once you start justifying authority and hierarchy, you effectively twist a knife in anarchy. We've all heard the phrase "all power corrupts". It's not a meme; it's the entire reason anarchy exists as a practice. > >Legitimizing authority enables archy. Doesn't matter if you call yourself an anarchist while justifying hierarchies you personally approve of for whatever reason. NO authority is legitimate in anarchy. Yes, even in a parent-child relationship. > >When you legitimize an authority, you're granting it power, presenting it as an institution that needs to be obeyed at all costs, and it won't stop there. It'll want more power because that's the nature of power. Always grows, never stops to examine its devastating effect on its surroundings. Power is a license to do harm. Whether it was your original intention to enable a violent force of power when you legitimized an authority is irrelevant. It will do harm and the people who signed off on legitimizing it are (or should be) culpable for that harm.