What is Reddit's opinion of
Hubski?
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75 reviews of this app found across Reddit:
There's a reddit alternatives sub. My choice is Hubski been lurking there for a couple years now. It's a small but cool community. Great for discussions.
Try Hubski
It's a news aggregation site like digg or reddit, but you follow individuals and hashtags like on twitter. This seems to me a far more difficult setup to manipulate or censor. Enjoy!
reddit is dying the way of digg. Rampant censorship among so many subs is the culprit. Look at /r/longtail (pretty much like undelete) and you will see how many different subs deleted the newest Snowden documents that reveal how manipulation of the internet is carried out.
I recommend http://hubski.com/ for news. Pretty much like reddit was way back when.
Hubski.com is another Reddit like website, it's creator is also a Redditor. It's got some statistics on Alexa.com so I assume it has an established userbase. I'm not trying to downplay this post, but I think a lot of Redditors are trying to make the new Reddit or Digg, and not knowing how many others are actually already doing it.
Try Hubski. I created it. :)
Instead of subforums, you follow people and/or tags. When you like something, instead of voting it up, you share it with the people that follow you. As a result, good posts spread by sharing and re-sharing, and it's easy to avoid crap that you don't like.
We've been going for about 1 year, and there are about 3k of us atm.
I'm basically quoting /u/KaliYugaz for the explanation:
>This test is ridiculous and incorrect at a fundamental level. You cannot conceptualize political ideologies as things that exist in ratios of adherence to a single quantifiable set of principles.
>The reason is because political ideologies all hold different principles and different interpretations of the same principles. A libertarian and a Marxist, for instance, see "equality" as completely different things, and so do not share the fundamental ground required to place them both on a single hypothetical chart with "equality" as an axis.
>Furthermore, political beliefs always exist within a cultural context that can differ from place to place. For instance, this compass sees support for LGBT rights as being integral to libertarianism, when really this is only true of Western political cultures. In East Asia, LGBT rights don't make any sense because they already don't care if you are gay; Chinese and Japanese social conservatism expresses itself through a desire to uphold entrenched Confucian social relationships and traditions, not to police "sinful" sexual deviance.
By the way, Hubski seems to be a pretty nice website!
>it really is. to be honest i'm flitting around reddit these days desperately waiting for whispers of a new website that isn't full of tards. it's out there somewhere. >>http://hubski.com/ >>>i see potential, but the fourth post is a list of posts on reddit. is there escape? >>>>No
Hahahaha, literally Voat!
>Is there a website that is like reddit was in its infancy?
Hubski is trying. As any social network in its infancy, Hubski currently doesn't have a big enough user base to generate a lot of comments, but it's also short on memes and shit. Additionally, their system tries to sidestep the karma-whoring issue by scoring submissions/comments upon the completion of a circle, rather than a simple numerical score.
I think herein lies one of the major values of the aggregators in the social media sphere. I am far more reticent to have a conversation on FB about something potentially controversial than I would be on reddit. I'm just a username here and there's not attachment to me personally. On FB or eve G+ and twitter, I have meatspace friends, co-workers etc that will often have differing opinions on things, and that's just fine but sometimes I'd rather not open that can of worms. -Especially with family. -Hey mom, I'm an atheist... -no thanks.
I spend a lot of time on Hubski because it sort of toggles the line between both. I'm not just an empty username there, I have people that follow me etc but I'm still somewhat anonymous. I like that.
All of these types of "social media" have their advantages. There are things that FB is great at, but sharing my political viewpoints and being engaged in a substantive debate is not one of them. The aggregators (reddit included) can be great for this though.
You only listed Voat.co as an alternative but there are also a few others. I'll list them and post the pros and cons of each one.
Snapzu - lots of great content, gamification with XP points instead of karma, a bit on the quiet side.
Hubski - been around for years, small but tight community.
Empeopled - new site but looks alright, I need to browse it some more.
/u/KaliYugaz recommended Hubski to me (http://hubski.com) in private.
I recently listened to a podcast on travel and at the end they made the point that for many people the attraction of travel is that they will return changed. I could see how returning changed yet coming back to an environment that isn't would be disconcerting.
Question: Do you clean your house/apartment prior to leaving on a trip? If so, why? I do and it's so I can have a fresh start with whatever new attributes I've obtained.
Sounds about right. However, if I found an alternative that was actually good, I wouldn't be here.
Try hubski. Wasn't really the place for me, but they focus on long indepth conversations rather than 'news'. Lots of posts there take a while to read. I didn't like it because I didn't really get along well with the users and the long-read format was hard to do casually. On the bright side, I did get a cool hubski sticker.
This story may hold some relevance to that scenario. [edit: better link]
It's the tale of a man who defined himself to death.
> So off and on I'm looking for somewhere else with better content sorting mechanism than reedit.
You might want to give Hubski a whirl. It's a new community, but the sharing mechanism is a bit different. Basically, you follow users instead of topics (like subreddits), with the philosophy being that if someone posts interesting, quality content, you will continue to find their content of value no matter what topic they choose to post on, leading to good serendipitous discovery.
Your 'front page' or feed consists of submissions by people you follow and posts from others that those users directly share. When you like a submission, you click the hubwheel (equivalent of an up vote or 'like) and instead of up voting it, it merely pushes it out to all of the people that follow you.
Also, comments that people like can be up-voted in a sense, but it essentially stops counting after 8 votes, so you get feedback that your comment was enjoyed, but it kind of does away with the race-to-the-bottom quest to be first with a pun in order to get up vote karma.
Right now, the biggest strength is the content discovery mechanism. The user base is small but growing. I currently use Hubski, Reddit, and Hacker News as my aggregators.
I've always asked this question, and it seems there are two options from here, both are small and will probably need your patience at first, but hopefully they will be able to substitute what we loved about Reddit. They are, Hacker News and Hubski. Personally I prefer Hacker News, it has a similar layout to Reddit, and its content is very similar to the tech enthused content Reddit was producing early on. Hubuski is a bit different, it has a bigger focus on a power-user and tag system, but both sites have a good direction.
I'm working on an alternative, wherein karma is a currency. You can't vote much unless you contribute good content/conversation.
Also, you follow people, and this builds a personal feed composed of submitters you like, rather than topics where you get everything from everyone.
It's just getting underway.
>It would be neat if some sort of threshold amount of reddit accounts, like 500-1000 or some percentage of the subscribed readers of a subreddit or something of at least 1 year age could oust a moderator, or elect a moderator.
The whole moderator dynamic lends itself to horrible abuses imo. It incents censorship/sponsorship for money on popular subs, and puts quality control in the hands of unpaid ("officially") volunteers who may or may not also be modding a ton of other subs. There are issues with cencorship and putting the users up for sale, but there are also issues with well intentioned mods dealing with more spam and administrative problems than they can handle in the time they have available.
I think hubski.com does it better by having user feeds generated based on who you follow and what they post and share, coupled with with stronger modding controls in the hands of the actual users that let you block things like domains, other users, tags, etc with a high degree if granularity.
I feel like relying on a small subset of people to have power over the content we see is going to have certain problems that are, at the end of the day, somewhat intractable.
There's Hubski that tries to provide an alternative, but I don't know how well they're doing or more importantly how censorship-free they really are. Can't trust almost any site these days.
Perhaps the Voat devs wanted to develop it as a learning experience? They are students and didn't really expect it to grow this huge.
If they expected to be a viable competitor to reddit, yeah they should just have forked their code. The worst of it is that they just copied practically every feature of reddit, adding a bit on top - unlike, say, Hubski. (it appears that Hubski was forked from HN).
For what it's worth, Hubski runs on "sharing" rather than voting (aside from comments). There are no number / karma values assigned to the posts or comments. info and stuff..
Also there is a setting called zen mode which some users use. It basically visibly eliminates all signs of numbers, popularity, and voting, etc. I don't personally use it but some people love it.
First two links when you google that after his reddit userpage:
http://hubski.com/pub?id=137852
Classic.
I agree, NotPhil mentions in the video that the day is coming when employers will be able to know who you consort with, retailers will know how much to charge you based on what they perceive you'll be able to pay. -In many ways, we are already at this point.
I haven't considered the confidential and privileged relationship between doctor and patient as it relates to our increasing lack of privacy. -Good point.
I'm glad this was posted here. Fwiw, here is the orignial posting on Hubski. There's a nice conversation there.
Last week I recorded a podcast titled -Running Sucks! about why many make the transformation from running everywhere as a kid and loving it to hating it as an adult and interview 3 very different runners. Check it out.
This week I ran 18 miles and loved each one. Tomorrow I travel to the Carolina coast and plan on getting in 6 miles at dusk. I really love running.
Glad I found /r/running, plan on stopping by often. Happy trails all!
The problem is, you're talking about a complete overhaul of the site. I think your idea is great, but it would be better implemented on a site starting from scratch.
Hubski kinda has that going on, though they're only using single tags.
>but I hope someone else who has been there a while can shed some light on whether their system works.
I've been there since the beginning. The short answer is that it's difficult to say just yet. There hasn't been a big user base to stress it. However, I do know that they are still working on the site, and have some plans to change things as it develops: http://hubski.com/pub?id=1761
I like Hubski because atm the community has a different feel. It's a bit more mixed and weird. Don't expect it to be like Reddit or HN. I wouldn't call it a news site actually. The stuff that people like the most seems to be the most obscure and even personal. I hope it can stay that way.
This was from a post a while ago, and when I have omnivores visiting, it's my new go-to recipe. They really are the best veggie meatballs ever - plus a very, very good marinara sauce as a bonus.
I personally really like r/CGPGrey and I'm part of a couple local "startup" facebook groups. I don't have a startup but I like reading about what's going on in the tech community in my city.
I'm also part of Hubski. The community doesn't have a "theme" but it's just this strange corner of the internet where what matters is intelligent discussion. What I like most there is that people tend to keep in mind that you're a person and are not as dismissive like on bigger subreddits. And since it's a pretty small community, you can't really treat people like shit and get away with it. It's a bit intimidating at first because when I joined it seemed like everyone knew each other but I m glad I stuck around :) It doesn't take long until new members integrate, and fresh blood is aways welcome.
Honestly, part of the reason I posted this was to share Hubski with you fellow nerdfighters because I think many of you will fit right in there and I'm just so exited about that place I wanted to share it. I was also hoping to find other communities and y'all gave me lots to go check out!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect
Reddit is meant to stay. http://hubski.com/ exists for ages but they haven't managed to attract a significant number even though they have tags, a much requested feature on reddit.
Also keep in mind that every subreddit is effectively a new site. You can solve any mod abuse by creating a new subreddit.
If you're down with roasting on a $20 popcorn popper from Target, I did two write-ups on Hubksi regarding my results, both roasting with it and then modifying it to get it to go darker:
http://hubski.com/pub?id=72859
http://hubski.com/pub?id=75062
From what I've read, stovetop is harder to get an even roast for beginners, but I don't have actual first hand experience to back that up.
Whatever you do, have fun and enjoy!
Hacker News or Hubski seem to be the more obvious solutions, but I've never really been a fan of either. I might eventually if they keep growing, though. Hubski has a lot going for it, but I'm not sure it scales.
EDIT: Actually, it looks like Hubski is scaling pretty well as of late.
I try to post something on whoaverse once every week or two just to keep it from going stale, but I don't think it's going to grow any time soon. I really wish we had a suitable reddit clone to fall back on though, and whoaverse seems like the closest thing to it.
There's a couple other alternatives out there, but I can't even remember their names right now. Hubski is one.
Thanks for your detailed answers to all of my questions. Regarding my own sources, I have asked you about yours because I rely too heavily on reddit and haven't been able to find something more 'engaging'. Most of the time, I just read whatever comes along on /r/TrueReddit and its sidebar subreddits and /r/all (disclaimer: I am a moderator of TrueReddit).
Should that become boring then there are always Arts and Letters Daily, hackernews, hubski and many more subreddits, for example /r/penmanshipporn (safe for work). One of my favorite "external" sources is Lapham's Quarterly but I guess that's not new to you.
Well, seeing as how given the same volume of ice the amount of energy is the same therefore the change in temperature at equilibrium conditions must be the same. But this is only in a closed system, so not important to us.
Spherical ice will indeed melt slower, because of the minimization of surface area. When the ice melts slower it will cause less of a change in temperature, which will be further mitigated by the liquid being in contact with air and the glass at room temperature.
So, spherical ice would last longer, but not make your drink as cold. Comes down to personal preference at that point.
Some links I found in researching this: http://www.ginjourney.co.uk/oddments/in-search-of-the-perfect-ice-cube/ http://hubski.com/pub?id=125142 http://www.ehow.co.uk/info_8566115_ice-cube-shapes-melt-faster.html#page=6
What would qualify as an alternative? Wouldn't tyger.ac be an alternative that fixes many of the problems?
Here are a few alternatives
I nominate Hubski if there is to be an exodus. Far harder to censor as it is a news aggregator but closer to Twitter than reddit as you follow individuals, topics can be seen with hashtags
Yes, you can see the roast I did yesterday somewhere in this sub before I removed the thermostat. I took the thermostat off today using these instructions. At first when I reassembled it was blowing cold air (and I was about to get upset about throwing money down the drain). But, after a little research, I realized that I just damaged the thermostat when prying it loose- so I needed to take it off completely , then solder the wires together (bypassing the thermostat all together). Worked great! Although I did see some cratering on the beans. I think I will try to remedy this next time by roasting a slightly bigger batch.
There are some links to threads here. What I find really funny is the tendency for people to take those posts as an indication that the gubberment is using Reddit to influence public opinion (c.f. this comment).
My current username is in part a reference to that particular paranoia-jerk. Plain old spammers seem like a much more plausible explanation to me.
I was recently introduced to Mystery Brewing and think I'll pick up a growler and take her for a spin. Beyond that, I think I'll have my old standby Hitachino Nest -Damn fine beer.
Happy Thanksgiving, cheers!
This thread Might help you plot out where to go. The US is a diverse country and each area does have it's niche cuisine, many of which are either European, Latin American or even Native American inspired.
Safe travels!
Unfortunately, as the user base broadens, unsubscribing from big subreddits IS the only answer. You can't stop people from being what they are. You can't educate them fast enough to not make your experience suck. I know my experience on Reddit has improved dramatically with some serious pruning.
Outside of that, I think the ony alternative is to engage with other communities with different social-sort mechanics, like hubski It's a tough problem to solve.
Well I don't know if it was FOR those things but that's what kind of people gravitated towards it.
This site reminds me a bit of what reddit was like when I first started browsing
If you haven't already, give http://hubski.com/ a shot. It's described as a combination between reddit and twitter, where in addition to following certain topics (equivalent to subreddits), you can follow certain users.
At this point it's still small and there's a lot more signal to noise. Cheers.
Reddit thrives in large part to its monopoly-like status as an all-purpose comments site. Digg is dead, and Hacker News and Metafilter only fit a very select niche. reddit mainly got the users from digg, because there was no tangible alternative whatsoever - which probably helped kindle the rivalry and animosity between the two.
I think someone who tried seriously to create an alternative without just forking Paul Graham's Arc CMS (or whatever it is) and perhaps tried to be more entrepreneurial about it might very well succeed.
I am currently working on a more relevant forum CMS (AKA bulletin board) as an alternative to the ancient systems like vBulletin and PHPBB, because forums were never broken nor obsolete, but people just didn't bother to innovate them, because there was no (financial) incentive to do so. They same reason probably explains why one-person endeavours like, say, hubski are completely stale.
TheoryOfReddit/TrueReddit would probably be great places to promote such endeavours.
Feel free to submit them to http://hubski.com. We aren't huge, but I'd be our early adopter contingent is probably significant.
It seems someone tagged a post with #startups a couple of months ago. http://hubski.com/tag?id=startups Feel free to add more.
That's a good question. I guess it will depend on personal tastes, but I have no idea what the aggregate behavior will be. Personally, I focus more on people. I follow 19 people and 8 tags.
On a related note, I'm not 100% satisfied with the 'all posts' presentation. I am thinking on that. It might be worth while to have filters that you can apply on all posts to help with discovery. It's a bit hidden, but on this page http://hubski.com/activity, you can sort posts by video, tagged, text, etc. I'm also wondering if it would be possible to not have an 'all posts' feed at all. Discovery would have to be very good. But there may be benefits if it were done right.
I created an alternate (hubski.com) that solves this in 2 ways: 1) you follow people or tags on stories, and these posts go into your feed. 2) voting for a post shares it with people that follow you.
The way it works is that you get a feed of posts from people that are interesting and of topics that you like. Also, if anyone you follow finds something interesting, they will share it with you. If you like the submitter or tag on that post, you can follow them.
That's my approach to the one page/multiple topics problem, anyway. -I call it a decentralized social aggregator.
Also we have fun circle things.
i love the layout and simplicity. not bad for someone who taught themselves. it looks as if you have some contributing users too. i hope all works out and ends up being as successful as reddit is! that said, i can only image the sheer amount of reddit/digg clones out there, i would think the key to making it big is to offer something neither reddit or digg offers.
I personally, have been imagining of a reddit clone that is somewhat mixed with a 4chan clone to make a totally anonymous (yet moderated) aggregation site.
but what the hell, ill give it a shot and sign up and check back on it every couple of days. my account name: "bmk2k" @hubski
edit: disregard most of what i said above, i actually read the about (after making a new account) and it seems you do have some pretty original ideas, i like it. i really like the mouse over javascript text also when hovering over a submission
edit#2: another suggestion would be to format your 'subreddit' urls better: "topic?id=[whatever]" is alot of work compared to people on reddit who just type "/r/[whatever]". just a suggestion though. if you want a stance that doesnt copy reddit, maybe use subdomains for your 'subreddit'. ex: http://[whatever].hubski.com or http://hubski.com/[whatever]
btw, once you '+' vote a submission, is it not possible to undo that upvote (or downvote)?
I've been working on an alternative, built on Paul Graham's news.arc.
It's beta. I plan to post it in r/somethingimade after a bit more work. Just me and some friends providing content atm.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll definitely check it out.
Though from what I've seen, the site suggested still suffers from the same issue. You go to a lot of lesser tags (which should be extremely popular) and they're almost empty. The last post under gaming was 5 days ago:
http://hubski.com/tag/gaming?time=all
And that's the issue. I go to normal gaming forums with far more activity there. A Reddit alternative has to be more active than that.
Check out hubski.
From their FAQ: >How does moderation work on Hubski?
>Users can control the content they see by 'filtering' users, tags, or domains. By using the 'mute' function, users can control who may comment on their posts.
>If a user is filtered by many others, and the user's posts don't generate thoughtful interaction, the user's posts may not appear in the global feed.
> Hubski
Never heard of it, but thanks.
> Hubski is a website community for sharing thoughtful information and conversation. Many people compare Hubski to reddit, hacker news, and other news aggregators. In addition to sharing content from around the web, users are encouraged to share their own original content.
Hmmm...
On one side, gave it a look and found this by one really old timer redditor, and this leads me to suspect that other old-timers are there too. That is exceedingly encouraging for those of us that have known them.
On the other hand, found this about the site, I do suspect the site will have a tendency towards power users, maybe i don't "grok" the site yet and am misguided, but i don't see how it won't turn into another Digg with power users dictating what most of the site watches and silencing everybody else, can you expound on this?
As an aside, i'm starting to have the hunch that Reddit will only be replaced by several independent sites and not a direct successor, less centralization and all that.
theres also http://hubski.com/ and http://snapzu.com/
plenty more at /r/redditalternatives
i feel like there aren't any servers big enough to handle the influx of users trying to switch over. the great happening of 2015...
>I need beans, but my budget really only allows for coffee that's around a dollar per ounce.
Well OP, you could roast your own in a twenty dollar modified popcorn popper like I often do.
I made a tutorial on how to mod it by taking out the thermostat to let it heat up enough to roast the beans properly:
http://hubski.com/pub?id=75062
The nice thing about roasting your own isn't necessarily that it will save you money (though it will absolutely do that), -it's that you can try a much greater variety of awesome beans than you otherwise could buy from a local roaster in most cases. Sweet Maria's sells sampler packs of greens, greens keep a long time, and you can do small batch roasts of whatever you're feeling like whenever you want. Anyway, you'd definitely be able to get some of the best beans on the globe on budget this way, and roasting isn't terribly difficult to get good at. It's just cooking. Anybody can learn to do it.
Just a thought in case you wanna go further down the rabbit hole. r/roasting and the forums at Sweet Maria's are a wealth of information on this if you find you're interested. Enjoy!
Had to check your comment history to see if you are trolling or not.
I can name 2 sites:
There are certain subreddits that are relatively free of trolls and special interest groups. But I won't name them for various reasons, I would suggest you explore your interests through the various subreddits to find them.
http://hubski.com/tag?id=bitcoin
Once you join, follow the tag #bitcoin. That will fill your feed with all bitcoin posts. You might follow #cryptocurrency too.
Feedback is welcome PM mk, that's me.
Strange that I found out about this podcast via Hubski (http://hubski.com/pub?id=132799)
How did that happen!? I'm subscribed to your youtube channel and this subreddit but I find out when I'm using this totally unrelated site.
Anyways, cool stuff. I'll be listening.
whatever you do in life is not the first time in thailand, and had a crew of professional exotic veterinarians on staff to tend to anything that may come up. we ordered exactly enough, it's only 10am and we're already behind, and there aren't a lot of old-guard redditors have jumped over to hubski http://hubski.com/, but i'm seeing someone right now, she's too young to die, or worse, onto your ball sack
miko9999: ^^original ^^conspiracy ^^comment ^^link
http://hubski.com/global is their /r/all essentially
But someone has already done it. It's called hubski and no one uses it. It has been around for years.
In regards to 'arguments', you still haven't made one. You just claim that if they don't completely change how reddit works, reddit will fail. Care to express why you think that is?
I found these instructions really helpful. And I cant imagine poppers differ that much on the inside.
At first when I reassembled mine it was blowing cold air (and I was about to get upset about throwing money down the drain). But, after a little research, I realized that I just damaged the thermostat when prying it loose- so I just needed to bypass it completely. just my two cents
>It used to have a 'front page' that listed popular posts.
You mean hubski.com/all? MK i think got rid of it for a bit and replaced it with the picture of a house before putting it back up for some reason.
Thanks, http://hubski.com/discover is a place to start. But I readily admit I have much work to do in terms of discovery and navigation. I just finished a messaging system, and improving discovery is on the short list.
However, if you do follow some users or tags, users and tags will be recommended to you (on your hub page).
Navigation is a constant work in progress. It's better than it has been, but it's not as intuitive as it could be for sure.
I just found your subreddit because of your reddit ad, whooo conversions! As a side note, if you like cool little communities I'd invite you to check out Hubski if you get the chance.
>They have, perhaps, a kind of melancholy grace (one minute) and with this they allow themselves to forget the problems and translucent inner emptiness that make them so poor and so lacking when it comes to uttering silly and painful sounds: desire, love, jealousy (what do we know?) -- sounds that scatter and fall in the field like troubled stones and burn the herbs and the water, and after this it is hard to keep chewing away at our truth.
Sorry to jut in at the bottom of your guys' comment thread, but some people are looking to sites like Hubski after getting tired of Reddit. Personally I stick try to stick to the small subreddits and keep up with the cool startups at YCombinator.
Hubski, small but like the Reddit days of old. HN is still good. Reddit less and less. :/ arstechnica impresses me quite often. Ribbonfarm is good.
You can definitely read too much though.