Thanks for the scam alert Sammieee. From the screenshots you sent us it's very obvious the same email redeemed the Mustangs.
The paypal wasn't a verified account so as a future warning to others, please use /r/starcitizen_trades/wiki/invoice for reference and (if you decide to make a verified account a requirement of your trade) use " https://www.paypal.com/us/verified/[email protected] " to check the paypal account. We can't enforce this so it's on the user to check. Verified accounts can still chargeback but it seems less likely that scammers use longstanding verified accounts.
I checked the e-mail address is not paypal verify, why people do trades before they check to see they are verify under paypal or not first, if they are verified, how long ago they are verified, that is very important to see that account is real of fake. because paypal verified means there is bank transfer verified by paypal, so paypal can charge back if thing go wrong.
Than need to watch out when paypal payment, see is "instant" or "e-check" if is an e-check will need 5-10 business day to get it clear. if you send the package over before it's clear, and turn out that bank account is cancelled/closed, you will not get the money at all.
if you are the seller, only send package to their registered paypal e-mail address, because they might be get a random paypal account to let you to check and also ask you for your e-mail, I normally tell them they will know once invoice arrive, reason they ask for your e-mail, because they will try to send you fake e-mail said you get money from paypal. then ask you to give to random g-mail/hotmail/etc, even if that account is hacked you did got money off the account but once the hacked paypal account ower find out will charge back, because that is not their transaction. the downside at least they didn't collect the package as they can't read the e-mail of the gift link, only the owner can read the paypal e-mail.
and last as for the buyer, use the verify link to check the e-mail address from the invoice to see they are verify or not to see is trustworthy seller or not.
PS: mod feel free to edit my grammar :)
oh one thing all trader must know, only deal with "Verified Paypal" if they are not Verify the seller protection will not help you don't matter is digital or physical item. so for dealing with Paypal payment Verified Paypal is must.
to check the paypal account e-mail is verify or not by https://www.paypal.com/verified/[email protected], for checking you must login your paypal account, it will point you to login I think
Just sell them yourself. The stores take a 20% cut or more.
It is very easy to sell them yourself, and scams are very rare so long as you follow proper trading procedure:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_trades/wiki/new
1) Check that the buyer isn't using a brand new account and ensure they have linked their RSI account to their Reddit account (the flair next to everyone's name).
2) Once you have the buyer's Paypal email, use this to check that it's verified: https://www.paypal.com/verified/[email protected]
3) Use invoices to request money from the buyer, make sure the terms are clear on the invoices.
4) Don't send the ship until they've sent the money.
If you're really worried, there are even people who will middleman your ships for free, and will add an extra precaution to avoid scams.
Even if you were scammed, it beats being ripped off by a store, you'd still get more money for them.
A few other things to consider:
when paying with paypal, pay with a Credit Card (Visa/Amex/Mastercard) for any concerning purchases. If Paypal don't come through for you in a dispute, there's a decent chance that Visa/MC/Amex will (they'll do their own investigation etc)
https://www.paypal.com/us/verified/[email protected] is a little dodgy at my work internet (some people aren't verified when checking non-us accounts.. don't know why still). If you're not in the US, try just https://www.paypal.com/verified/[email protected]
when trading using paypal, always do so with invoices, and request that the ship ID (from the RSI Hangar Log) is included. This ties the specific, individual ship to that invoice and will help if there's any claims (it helps both sides).
be wary of accounts that refuse to comment in the sale thread and only deal via PM. If they end out just not commenting publicly, just don't trade.
take both screenshots AND copy-pastes of trade communications. Save them with sensible naming.
lastly, if you're buying and you've paid the invoice and IF up til that point you had verified everything but then the lines of communication go dead, just give it time. Sometimes life can seriously intervene - I had to wait (with sweaty palms, pale face, and angry wife) for 30 hours on a $350+ ship, but it eventually came through with an apology and an explanation. Don't start publicly blasting folk who just couldn't get back to you because life interrupted. I'd wait around 36 hours before getting truly concerned. At that point, pre-warn mods/admins.
Well you shouldn't be using gift, because again, that's against Paypal ToS and risky, but you can see the invoice fees here:
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/marketingweb?cmd=_display-xborder-fees-outside
Just pick your country from the drop down menu. In all the countries I've checked, there are only two rates, national and international (listed in the link), just calculate the international.
As for conversion fees, for those paid by the buyer, you really have no way of knowing those. Someone who intends to buy in dollars using yen should already expect conversion fees, and those are entirely on their end, you never even find out.
For conversion fees on your end, find out the rate. It looks like there's a flat 2.5% charged according to the information I've read, but I've never actually converted a received payment.
Considering most people are selling at a profit, it really doesn't matter if you calculate the fees a few cents to little and lose 0.15% profit, especially since you're limited by a max market price, not a particular profit margin. Just mark it a bit higher to make up for that potential. Perfect fee calculations are only meaningful if you're selling at cost + fees.
And above all, you have to calculate fees before the sale no matter what, it's not like having to list them beforehand makes it any harder.
I'm talking about Seller protection.
I copy/pasted that from the live PayPal site.. so I hope it is correct.
See here for the USA policy summary: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/paypal-seller-protection
Note the bit where it says:
>What’s not safeguarded? > >- Local pickups or deliveries made in person. >- Digital goods, tickets, travel, gift vouchers, services, intangible items (items that can’t be held or shipped) or vehicles.
So basically, you'll have to provide some good and reliable, cross linked info that conforms with what PayPal deem as viable documents, and only email gifts to people's verified paypal email. I'm not saying sellers aren't protected, but like mentioned earlier, the onus of proof is on the seller.
Purchase Protection covers all your online purchases, on eBay or on any other website, when you use PayPal. It also covers you when you make a payment on our website. You must open a dispute within 180 days of your purchase or payment to initiate the Purchase Protection process. Finally, your account must be in good standing with us to get Purchase Protection.
Purchase Protection does not cover certain kinds of purchases. These include: digital goods (intangible items), services, real estate, motorized vehicles (of any kind), custom made items, travel tickets, industrial machinery (for manufacturing), prepaid cards, or items that violate our policies or eBay’s policies (stuff that’s usually prohibited by law anyway). Purchase Protection also does not cover items that you purchase in person, or money you send to friends and family.
-The buyer is in Alaska this is U.S. PayPal
-Sources
https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/paypal-safety-and-security
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/buyer-protection
Use this to check if a PP acct. is verified:
https://www.paypal.com/us/verified/[email protected]
is replaced with the PP email you want to check.
4.1 Receiving Personal Payments.
If you are selling goods or services, you may not ask the buyer to send you a Personal Payment for the purchase. If you do so, PayPal may remove your ability to accept Personal Payments.
https://www.paypal.com/ca/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#4
You can check to see if someone is verified by going to:
https://www.paypal.com/us/verified/pal=email
and replacing the email with their e-mail. Or, you can wait until they make the payment and look then.
As for a middle-man holding Pyapal funds, that's up to the buyer/seller. I tend not too so I can cut down on Paypal fees.
I got quite a few PM's thanking me for the original list and and quite a few requests to continue it, so here it is.
I am also shamelessly going to take the opportunity to plug my own organization.
As always my source file is readily available for review and download here. Prices are calculated for the last 10 and 30 days.
Buyers and sellers can help build this ongoing list by ensuring your sales transactions are flagged as completed with the subreddit flair and posting a confirmation of the sale in the post with the actual completed sale price. See you in there verse.
As always my source file is readily available for review and download here. Prices calculate only for the last 10 days via the following formula.
=AVERAGEIFS(D:D,A:A,"Ship Name LX",C:C,">="&TODAY()-10)
Buyers and sellers can help build this ongoing list by ensuring your sales transactions are flagged as completed with the subreddit flair and posting a confirmation of the sale in the post with the actual completed sale price.
See you in there verse.
Sadly Steam accounts don't tend to sell so well. Most people generally have one and don't need another. I tried getting rid of this multi account once for some $'s but couldn't find anyone remotely interested. Albeit i didn't look super hard. https://steamdb.info/calculator/76561198026589133/?cc=us
Good luck though OP.
300 sold to early backers.
"In addition, the UEE has captured a Vanduul carrier ship and we're selling the contents on the open market! 300 Vanduul fighters, which will never be available on the legitimate market, are now for sale. If you want one in the game you're going to have to hunt, disable and capture it"(https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen/posts/351480)
Plus around the 25 ish completionist packages.
ah, ok. I haven't sold either, only bought.
I assume you have a verified paypal email address? This helps to show you are trustworthy and means paypal can take the money off you and give it back to me if you were trying to cheat me (protection for the buyer)
You can check here... https://www.paypal.com/verified/[email protected] (email removed, thought I'd PMed it)
swap the email at the end for yours to check.
Once you're logged in to paypal you can choose to send an invoice for sold goods. you enter the address of who it is going to, and the exact description of what#s being sold. Paypal then send the invoice for you and steal around 4% of the total as their fee...
I receive the invoice, pay it... you get the cash and then send me the ship as a gift in the game (so make sure the ship is giftable by looking for the gift item next to it in your hangar)
I tell you I've received the ship, we both post we are happy with the trade in the thread, you get good rep, I get good rep, everyone's happy.
If you are NOT paypal verified we can still do the trade, it just means you send me the ship before I pay you, I've done lots of trades already so I can be trusted to do that.
If you have any more questions, let me know :)
all you need to do to get verified paypal, is post bank account into your paypal account, so if something goes wrong paypal knows where to get money back. https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/security/verification-faq
May I suggest you (and everybody really) take a look at this? Go to the PayPal website, scroll all the way to the bottom, click Security. Scroll down again and click "Report a suspicious email or website". It'll tell you how to identify a spoof and what to do about it. Don't just delete it, that helps nobody. If it works, here's a direct link: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/report-problem
I don't believe it's a scam but it's basically a pyramid scheme for selling games and they use a referral links to pay people to bring others to the site:
https://www.g2a.com/goldmine/index/preview/
whats good is that they only sell keys so the only ship able to be sold on it is currently the AMD mustang.
generally I just don't think it's a good idea to allow linking to another 3rd party sales site.
Posting frequently just depends on your Karma, as long as it's positive, you won't have any restriction.
Getting a flair, getting his email verified and getting paypal verified are 3 different things, around here we like the 3 things completed :-)
Paypal verification: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/acc/seal-CA-unconfirmed-outside
RSI verification: DONE http://www.reddit.com/r/Starcitizen_trades/wiki/userconfirmation
Email Reddit verification DONE
You can check paypal account verification by email (https://www.paypal.com/verified/pal=emailaddress) so maybe they were referring to that? Your Reddit account says it has a verified email, and I've never heard of people asking for that so I can't imagine four people would check for it.
Depends on what you want to do with them I suppose. Ships would be for the BUYER only, no idea why that would raise the value vs something that you could buy and give someone else. Maybe purchasing something that only you can use has more value to you - others may see it differently. I put the RETAIL price of the games, doesn't mean you have to purchase them AT that price.
As far as codes expiring tomorrow... NEGATIVE
The physical card that I have for the Ghost Recon: Phantoms has a date of 1 May 2016 printed on it.
The nVidia site says: "Free game code offer good from May 5, 2015 through July 31, 2015" and "Promotional code expires 31st July 2015". The eVGA site (it was an eVGA purchase) does not mention any dates - except for valid for purchases AFTER May 5. Since they are going through nVidia for confirmation - I am pretty sure they will also expire on July 31, 2015.
Honestly, I have no idea why folks seem to be bent out of shape about this trade offer - others have been made here without negative comments (and in-fact were offered something via PM). If you are NOT interested then feel free to look at other offers. I asked for folks who would be interested in a trade to PM me.
Do we know when the rash of hacked accounts started? It might line up with the recently disclosed Disqus.com and Kickstarter.com breaches.
Please set up alerts with https://haveibeenpwned.com/ to be notified when your account info is pasted online.
I've done some BTC trades and used the coinbase SELL price as the USD to BTC rate https://coinbase.com/charts Since BTC fluctuates often, this may be helpful for you to offer a mutually fair price. (the sell price is actually what you could cash it out for)
Btw, since it's been asked on the last package I sold, it's stated in the Kickstarter campaign that these are indeed signed by Chris Roberts:
>We're pleased to announce that Star Citizen will indeed, come in a >box! $125 pledges will get a green box while $250-and-above >pledges will get a grey box personally signed by Chris Roberts!
see also: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen/posts/351480
I wouldn't say so, without having the corresponding reference at hand:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen/posts/351480
>We're pleased to announce that Star Citizen will indeed, come in a >box! $125 pledges will get a green box while $250-and-above >pledges will get a grey box personally signed by Chris Roberts!
While not impossible, it would be really weird, if those were signed by the Pizza service... though there's a few more members in RSI whom I wouldn't mind the signatures from ;)
I hope you don't mind. I am still learning reddit as well. Here is something that may help with lists or tables or formatting in general: https://github.com/adam-p/markdown-here/wiki/Markdown-Cheatsheet
I did some maths a couple of weeks ago and totted up the values of the packages. https://www.odrive.com/s/7170228c-5449-49a9-8bd7-b8259b00e504-57449d9d
and if my maths are correct the $5K War Pack is also worth considering from a value for money perspective (even more so if you care about the hangar and character fluff that it includes that the more recent Armada Pack et al look to be missing), thought it's the only one of the old style packages that is.
nice, looks great! btw: helpful to find the best ship, the "Star Citizen Ship Viewer" (android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jorshasaur.shipviewer // iOS: http://apk4ios.com/APK_Ship-Viewer-for-Star-Citizen_iOS.html )