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WHOA WHAT I have literally been waiting years for this and this year I finally stopped my monthly checks!

For anyone else who wants to find where they said it, here's where they have the Duocon recording on Duolingo, and the part about adding new languages starts at 2:05:20 in the complete video, or 13:10 in the state of duolingo with Dr Luis von Ahn video! I couldn't find where/if they announced an actual date, but they said they'll start adding new languages every year and Tagalog is one of them they'll add soon

I'm a Tagalog speaker who has dabbled in Ilokano. They are from different language subfamilies, so yes, you will encounter some similarities, but there are even more differences. They are not mutually intelligible at all.

Just looking at verbs:

1. Ilokano does CVC- (consonant-vowel-consonant) reduplication. (the mul in mula. Tagalog does CV-reduplication (the ta in tanim)
2. The ways of forming "is planting" are different.
3. Future actions are formed with a suffix in Ilokano while in Tagalog, it is based on the existing conjugation pattern
4. Ilokano has a separate form for "was planting" while Tagalog uses one for both "is planting" & "was planting"

These are just the tip of the iceberg!

To learn Ilokano, I recommend these two resources as a start:

• Let's Speak Ilokano by Precy Espiritu. From my understanding this is what is used in Ilokano classes in Hawai'i.
• The digitized Ilokano textbooks from the University of Hawai'i-Mānoa available for free here: https://www.hawaiiopen.org/bookseries/pali-language-texts-philippines/

I think you'd like an app called "Drops Learn Tagalog"

Drops Learn Tagalog

Free for I think 5 mins a day. Gives you a bunch of words and their meaning and then tests you constantly all the while adding more..

Can't help you with mp3s, but if you are open to learning some of the basic Tagalog words and phrases, I could recommend apps like

Beginner Tagalog https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shex.beginnertagalog

and

StartFromZero Tagalog https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shex.startfromzero_tagalog

Read Antimoon. It's a site for learning English however the principles on the website can be applied to any language. What's interesting is that the entire site is written by someone who isn't a native English speaker.

Download Anki and input all of the sentences you come across in there and study them daily! Make sure to study your words in context as words out of context are essentially useless.

Because Tagalog does not use any accents to indicate where the emphasis is on words, make sure you have a way to mark where the stress accent is. (e.g. In the word "environment" the stress is on the "I" en-VAI-uhr-ent) You're going to sound weird if you pronounce words incorrectly. For example, the word "suka" has two different pronunciations. One means vinegar and another means vomit. So make sure to be extra careful about your pronunciation!

I know what you mean about tagalog being a niche language..

I've just started and THIS has helped me get a basic understanding on the conversation side of tagalog. It eases you into it with taglish to help you understand how they structure their sentences. There is a free version if you want to sample it first.

I am also using THIS to learn words. It's not the best but I will use it until I find something better.

Good luck!

If you are just starting then this is the best place to start https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.junbarbosagmailcom.tagaloglessonsapppro

They even have a skype group so you can practice

I recommend this app

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.junbarbosagmailcom.tagaloglessonsapp

its free and its great because it starts with Taglish so its perfect for young English speakers

There is also a 2usd version but try the free one first if it works for you

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.junbarbosagmailcom.tagaloglessonsapp

Since you're making a word bank, may I suggest Create Dictionary , I also have a sort of word bank and I found that this is an excellent app, it allows you to create your own custom dictionaries. You can also back up your dictionaries.

Tutor of Manila from YouTube offers private classes. Check out the free lesson playlists on her YT channel to see if you like her style.

In that case:

You can write a tanaga, which has four lines of seven syllables each (with an optional rhyme scheme of AAAA, ABAB, or ABBA; I've seen tanaga in all those rhyme schemes and even some without).

You can write an awit which has stanzas of 4 lines with 12 syllables each (with a pause after each sixth syllable). Each stanza has an assonantal AAAA scheme (that is to say... things don't really even have to rhyme, I mean... look at Florante at Laura).

You can have a korido which is like an awit except each line is 8 syllables.

There really aren't that many native Tagalog poetry forms. In fact, of those three, only the Tanaga is really native as the others are borrowed from Spanish literature. Maybe you'll want to look at poetry forms from other literatures to try them out and see if they work in Tagalog, too.

Based on the context and structure of the examples above, the correct form should be "ano'ng" which is a contraction of "ano ang". Apparently there's a difference between "anong" and "ano'ng".

After consulting the usage of this word in some news articles online, I think I understand now what the word means. Nangangamuhan is like finding an amo (employer) and becoming the amo's employee. Since amo is usually used to refer to the household employer, the nangangamuhan tends to be employed for household services, although generally speaking the nangangamuhan can be used to any employee (ones who are not self-employed but are employed by an amo). For example, the term in here seems to be used in the context of overseas Filipino seafarers.

I'm still weirded out with the affixation of the word amo in this way. Is it from the "ma- -an" group of verb affixes, in the same group as "naguguluhan", "naaanghangan", etc?

I've found Memrise and SeaSite pretty helpful so far. I'm still learning as well but memrise has helped to build on some vocabulary and I think SeaSite has lot of good references in grammar and online lessons.

Gusto ko tong server. Ako naman ang magiging channel lead sa mga channel na pilipino. May sarili naming chat sa tagalog saka isa pa sa ibang wikang rehiyonal sa pinas. According to statistics, kami ang pinaka aktibong channel sa buong server (excepting general and mod chat). Starting soon, magkakaroon kami ng events, skribbl.io etc. :)

First off I'm on mobile so there might be some typos.

I found this regarding um and mag

Summary:

UM

• verbs that happened already or are currently happening
• as a prefix, used only when root words begins with a vowel
• past tense -- um + verb
• progressive (-ing in English) -- um + first syllable of verb + verb

MAG

• present* or future tense
• can be used with vowel or consonant
• used only as a prefix
• present* -- mag + verb
• future -- mag + first syllable of verb + verb

*This is a bit questionable because as a native speaker mag + verb sounds more like an order. Eg. Mag-aral ka. -- (You) study.

Then again, um + verb also sounds like an order. Eg. Umalis ka! -- Go away!

I'm currently trying to learn other languages as well and this is basically what I do:

1. Go on Twitter
2. Click on the search bar
3. Type any Tagalog word that you want to see used in a conversation and place it in between quotation marks. (e.g. "emz")
4. Find tweets with the word, read the entire conversation thread
5. Use the "translate" feature within the Tweets themselves.
6. If the Tweet is untranslatable, go to hinative.com and ask Filipino locals for the meaning.
7. Enjoy! Not only will you learn new slang words, you will also learn more about various Filipino subcultures.

Nakito ko ang salita "habonera" sa Diksiyonaryo.ph at sa Glosbe.com, kaya sa palagay ko Tagalog rin ang "jabonera" (o "habanera").

Ayon sa Diksiyonaryo.ph, nangangahulugan siya ng "lalagyan ng sabon" rin.

Gayunman, ewan ko kung ginagamit 'yan nang madalas o kahit minsan sa Tagalog

> There is a negative perfective but if one uses "have not" then the traditional equivalent is the imperfective.

Sorry, you keep saying this, but do we have a literature for this? Because even in the Glosbe, the examples there disagree with what you have just said. The "not perfect mapping" refers to the tense (called tiempo in Spanish, or "time"), not the aspect.

• We must extend the helping hand to the unfortunate, to those who have not heard the truth and are in spiritual darkness, to the needy, the oppressed.

• Kailangan nating tulungan ang mga kapus-palad, mga hindi pa nakarinig sa katotohanan at nasa espirituwal na kadiliman, mga nangangailangan, mga api.

• (Matthew 24:30) They will be forced to turn their consideration to what they have not heard recounted by religious leaders —that Jesus is the Executioner of God’s judgments!

• (Mateo 24:30) Mapipilitan silang ibaling ang kanilang pansin sa isang bagay na hindi pa nila narinig na binanggit ng mga relihiyosong lider —na si Jesus ang Tagapagpatupad ng mga kahatulan ng Diyos!

u/shaneada

The main app I use is Hello Talk, it's free and you could find Filipinos that will teach you to speak in exchange you help them become fluent. However, maybe your boyfriend wouldn't be to happy with you talking to random people. There's a group chat that I'm in and I can invite you if you want.

Rosetta Stone is offering 3 free months. It's honestly not the best app but you're saving money and it'll help you learn the basics.

Those are the two apps I use but there's a lot of videos on YouTube.

Since there are already better explanations defining the Tagalog language, I'm just gonna tell you I start with how I got started. I found Memrise a lot more helpful, rather than studying all the terms in the 1000 most common words list. There are many great course decks but I prefer this one for starters. I was able to understand almost 40% of Tagalog sentences after going through this course deck. For grammar I found this free online pdf, Tagalog for Foreigners and Non-Tagalogs. There are some exercises after each chapter but sometimes I like to google more examples from other websites and practice putting together sentences through google translate.

I'm not sure how much my story will apply to you, but I thought I could give you either some inspiration or at least a helpful resource. I'm an American born white guy with no prior knowledge of Tagalog. I started dating my Filipino girlfriend last year and initially started learning the language through the Memrise mobile app. I really like it and continue to use it. However, I discovered that the words I was using were dated. So, I make sure to always practice with my girlfriend and her friends/family. I always ask questions about words and phrases I don't understand, and I make sure to learn in my spare time (even just a few minutes a day). The trick is to use what you learn and never stop learning. Speak as much as you can, and don't be afraid to sound stupid sometimes. Good luck!

blades like this is just "blade"

razors like this are "pang-ahit"

worst case, if they give you the wrong one, just ask for the other one. it's a "that one or the other" situation, sari-sari stores don't sell anything outside of those two

Also, I just meant that I use this app to access reddit, so I don't have the full features of the website.

I saw one on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Noli-Tangere-Tagalog-Jos%C3%A9-Rizal/dp/055416387X

Though the book has Spanish orthography, not the modern Filipino orthography.

I think there are also lots of free sources online since these books are so widespread.

All the resources listed here I have used in studying Tagalog but non of them could ever top this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Tagalog-English-Dictionary-Leo-James/dp/9710843575/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=tagalog+dictionary+c.ss.r&qid=1576446706&sr=8-1

Excluding slang, every single word I ever encountered while in the Philippines I could find in this book. The explanations and translations are for the most part spot on and it even has sentence examples for the words.

That being said, read the reviews carefully on Amazon, especially the bad ones. Any bad reviews you find with this book are most often because whoever is shipping this book is not doing a good job of making sure the book comes intact or is printed completely.

The contents of this book are amazing though. And no, I am not some Joe off the street who just happened to start studying Tagalog and found a good book that I would recommend. I have been studying/speaking Tagalog for about 7 years fluently so you can trust me when I say if there is a resource out there for studying Tagalog, I know what it is and if it is good or not. This dictionary is the best.

I prefer using Mind Harbor app. It gives you 5 new words daily, from different sources. You can learn and share new words daily. It helped me to improve my vocabulary.

Along with new words, this app features new article, photo, riddle, facts, and much more things every day. Reading through this content helps improving your knowledge as well as reading skills.

Only constraint is that they only have android application.

Here is link to the app - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appWorldIndia.onThisDayApp

This is the best one I've used personally. There is a two-volume out there too but that tends to be expensive even in the Philippines, much less abroad.

Thanks so much for your feedback! It would be great if you could leave your review on our Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simyasolutions.ling.fil. This helps other users to find the app easier.

I'm happy to send you a coupon to try out the Pro version. Please check it out and let me know more feedback ;)

As far as the basic Tagalog vocabulary goes, you could try using Beginner Tagalog app and the StartFromZero_Tagalog app to get started at learning on your own some of the basic Tagalog words and phrases from scratch.

Elementary Tagalog

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by beyond basics methods, can you show me an example course you've seen for a different language?

As far as learning Tagalog goes, courseware is thin on the ground, I used a mixture of Pimsleur, Tagalog for Beginners, italki, and my friends. The last one was invaluable to me for picking up how Tagalog is actually spoken.

Oh! That's pretty good! Exactly what I was searching for! Salamat!
Is this the grammar book you are using: http://www.amazon.com/Spoken-World-Tagalog-Living-Language/dp/1400023491
The pdf book I have is called Tagalog Reference Grammar. It's pretty big and solid and tells you pretty much everything. If you want it, send me a pm with your email and I'll send it to you.

If you use this it'll take less than 2 weeks because they use Taglish to teach the structure

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.junbarbosagmailcom.tagaloglessonsapppro

After learning all the essential Tagalog words and structures you can slowly increase your vocabulary then substitute Tagalog words for the English words.

The best way is to learn Taglish (combination of Tagalog and English) first so you can easily remember the structures. Besides everybody speaks Taglish in the Ph anyway.

There is an app in the play store that starts with Taglish first.

free version https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.junbarbosagmailcom.tagaloglessonsapp

paid version (2usd) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.junbarbosagmailcom.tagaloglessonsapppro

and you can join their skype group for practice.

this

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.junbarbosagmailcom.tagaloglessonsapp

and this

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.junbarbosagmailcom.tagaloglessonsapppro

but don't take my word for it, check the reviews and the first one is free :)