What is Reddit's opinion of Bitwig Studio?

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you might wanna check out http://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio/download.html This is from some guys former working on abelton.

Also there are a good amount of opensource music production tools checkout this side -> http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/daw_apps The one maybe close to FL Studio are lmms and qtractor

I think it's pretty insane that the press on the bitwig website (coming soon for a few years now) used to pretty much say that these were disgruntled ex Ableton coders working on a new product.

http://web.archive.org/web/20090322193830/http://www.bitwig.com

Now that they released it, it's basically Ableton Live?

Balsy? Lawsuits imminent? Interesting time ahead.

Bitwig! There is also a free demo! I tried it out on a bootstick for the funs, it was "install and play", that impressed me. There are also beta vst from uhe that you can try out, if you want some more synths.

--> http://www.bitwig.com/en/download.html

Linux is free and open software, meaning that we all own it together. It's a good place for software innovation and privacy. With OS X and Windows you are dependant on one corporation. For a musician I can understand why you would use OS X rather than Linux, although Bitwig is looking interesting.

edit: Also thanks for asking! I'm a bit of an idealist myself but it definitely makes sense to me why so many people would rather use some other OS.

Yeap, Ardour is nice, that coupled with proprietary options like Bitwig and Renoise 3 really present viable audio options on Linux.

Ableton Live. More robust is underselling it by orders of magnitude, though-- it's a full featured Digital Audio Workstation for samples, instruments, and effects.

Bitwig Studio is a similar, but cheaper option. It's quite a bit newer to the scene, though, so while it has some cool options that Ableton doesn't, it's also missing quite a few features.

I'm in the same boat as you more or less... running Ableton with Wine is a hassle. Right now I'm considering to switch to BitWig. It's from a former Ableton development team.

http://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio.html

As you can see it looks really similar and I only heard good things about it.

Why not try Ohm Studio? It's a weird DAW though, you pay per month rather than outright buying a licence.

Also check out the Bitwig "Features coming after the 1.0 release" section at the bottom

You're missing the point that more and more actual desktop applications are being made, just not the very specific ones you want. Things like Bitwig Studio look very promising to me. I have zero experience with AutoCAD but hear BricsCAD is a legitimate alternative.

My "server OS" works perfectly fine on my desktop, laptop and HTPC (nevermind phone and tablet) for the things I want to do, and with a lot more flexibility than any proprietary OS offers. YMMV.

Start with Bitwig - http://www.bitwig.com. Killer features on the way, like online collaboration with others. Better than Ableton in my opinion, and a fantastic way forward. You can buy a license pretty inexpensively on the KVR - http://www.kvraudio.com - marketplace.

Splice and Audio Common are the two I know of. Bitwig is a DAW that is trying to implement online collaborative sets, but they don't have that feature going just yet. (Made by some of the people who made Ableton)

I've been following Bitwig Studio as well, and it seems very promising.

I especially like plugin sandboxing, so if your plugin crashes it doesn't take down your whole DAW session.

http://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio/overview.html

Fair enough; try this:

Uninstall your cracked version and delete any files related to the crack, then download and install the demo here. If you're able to recreate the issue in the demo, then you can be confident the bug has nothing to do with the crack and can contact the devs via the link in my first post. In this case, best use your actual e-mail address in case they have follow up questions.

Once all is sorted, you can just reinstall the cracked version since most public Bitwig cracks I'm aware of use the some installer Bitwig provides, and crack things after it's installed.

If installing the demo is not possible, you could probably just enter dummy information into the form and create a semi-disposable e-mail with Mailinator, using that so they can contact you, without giving them any personal information.

Ethics of piracy aside, helping the developers nail down bugs will help improve the program for everyone.

The &quot;integrated modul*<em>ar</em>* system&quot; will allow you to create and modify devices, it's bitwig's version of max for live or reaktor, I don't know if it has anything do with modulating stuff across different tracks or letting you modulate stuff that isn't nested.

That won't be coming in the next update either, group tracks and routing improvements are the next major updates coming and there might be another minor update or two before that comes.

Audio-to-mod is in there if we're thinking of the same thing; it's called audiomod and you can find it in the modulators folder.

1.) "mid-day team runs and friday fitness workouts" (I guess as a team they did things together with bands on that gave them ideas for how to make them better). 2.) no idea

3.) "what tee I'm at." As in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.

4.) Bitwig (http://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio.html)

5.) no idea

6.) they all just say "yeah" and he is just continuing by saying yeah I want to talk about another product too.

7.) wild guess "make/break" (http://stanislavs.org/helppc/make_codes.html since he is talking about the keyboard)

8.) "the dish" I think it refers to the slight recess of the keyboard, forming a dish

9.) "throw a charge into it" as in you run an electric current through it.

Unfortunately Bitwig does not support ReWire, presumably to keep feature parity between OSX/Windows/Linux versions. Their FAQ recommends using JACK. I recall I've had some luck with Soundflower on OSX too.

http://www.bitwig.com/en/community/control_scripts/ableton/push/push_1.html

Couldn't tell you myself considering I don't have one, but you could probably just try it out with the demo and the controller script from that page.

The great thing about bitwig is that you can make and modify these scripts yourself. Don't like something? Change it!

Also take bitwig studio into account. This pattern oriented DAW software is non FLOSS, but also available for Linux. The project was founded by two Ableton Live developers who wanted to realize their own ideas. See http://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio/download.html

Edit: I mixed renoise up with bitwig studio. updated to bitwig studio,

Given how new Bitwig is, this is likely an issue which you'll want to raise with their developers, as they might not already know about it. You're only likely to get technical support in /r/edmproduction when the issue pertains to software/hardware which has been on the market for a long time, with common bugs either fixed or identified.

It's usually lack of applications that offer the tools or options that people need from what I've seen. GIMP doesn't have all of the bell and whistles that Photoshop CS6 has that people use. It's been getting better though. As projects like Pitivi offer fully featured applications for pro video editing, and more developers offer closed source applications with Linux compatibility like Bitwig for music production or Corel Aftershot for photo editing, people will have more usability from Linux as a desktop OS. We also have Gabe Newell pushing to have games on Linux, another reason people haven't switched. [](/sp)When Linux has all the applications people need, and games they want, more people will be using Linux for their computing needs. Then those folks can recommend Linux more often, showing how usable and great it is, then in turn getting even more people to use Linux.[](/sp)Also, we are leaving Android and Chrome OS out of the equation, if we wanted to get technical. But I assume you meant "traditional" desktop Linux specifically.[](/sp)

The other trick is getting people who are willing to learn a new desktop environment, and making sure that we provide them with something simple and usable enough for daily tasks. There are a lot of options out there and we don't want to give them information overload on how many ways to do the same thing. :P

Today I received a response from Bitwig tech support.

yes, this is correct.

Best regards,
Bitwig Support Team
...
... Bitwig GmbH... <em>www.bitwig.com</em>
...
... Schwedter Straße 13
... 10119 Berlin
... Germany / Deutschland

You might be interested to know about the /r/linuxaudio subreddit. Also, there's a DAW called Bitwig that's available for Linux and might interest you.

I recently thought about switching to Linux for music, but ultimately decided to use my Mac. My research suggested that finding pro-quality instrument samples and the like would've been a huge challenge due to lack of support for iLok and such. I also considered running a Windows-based DAW in Linux, but hacking everything to work correctly would have been a lot of work too.

http://www.bitwig.com/en/home.html

Edit: I was technically wrong. Whilst mainstream apps are lagging behind on this, check out "Bitwig"!

http://www.bitwig.com/en/home.html

No. They haven't. Getting there, but you're looking at another couple of years.

I'd recommend having another look through the midi controller market. There have been a few new products (including the NI one mentioned previously) which are getting damn good at mapping in some software.

You can report bugs at http://www.bitwig.com/en/support/tech-support.html

They will want to know information about your hardware and software setup (system specs, operating system, audio hardware, Bitwig Studio version, used plugins and their version numbers), what the issue is about and how to produce the steps needed to produce the bug.

Bitwig Studio, I believe some guys that used to work on Ableton started it, I really really like it, the presets are pretty good, I usually use the FM synth which is decent

So, that card isn't USB class compliant and should be using drivers that were actually written by Line6, I think. A lot of these external interfaces just use a generic USB driver, so yours being the odd man out, I bet the Bitwig devs would love a bug report and they might even come up with a fix for you. They seem pretty responsive.

Oh, that's another post on this sub (see photo 7). It's Bitwig Studio.

I haven't played with Ableton enough to know the ins-and-outs like I do with Bitwig but I know they tried to improve workflow speed, with an emphasis on the ability to loop a clip very quickly and easily. That helps a lot for a techno guy, especially coming from FL Studio lol. I'm sure there's a bunch of other stuff that sets it apart but I haven't played with other DAWs much, other than FL, so I wouldn't know. I'd check their website.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLppiTGoCM2hK-iqNRJzdCdOaRHYWDncW8

Here's a VERY in-depth, great video series about music production. The first chapter is pretty much software agnostic. After that he's using Bitwig, which is my personal favourite. It's similar to Ableton, but not as mature yet. Still great for a beginner in my opinion.

As my brother is a uni musician I've been following the beta and final release announcements of Bitwig and am now reading positive reviews about it.

It was started by some Albelton Live guys, is cross platform and was designed to have a Linux version from conception!

Now people in his class are talking about it, so it can't be all bad!

I made the switch from Cubase to Ableton, the musician in me outvoted the studio engineer ;) Like all DAW software it has its quirks/features you have to get used to. I am looking at this software called Bitwig that looks promising, right now it is like half the price of Ableton which may be a consideration for some.

This free training may in fact be a tactic to lock users into Ableton before Bitwig starts getting some traction, just a theory. Brand loyalty is reinforced with training.

Bitwig site

There was previously a feature by Image-Line, slightly separate to FL and aptly titled "Collab", which I believe allowed you to do this. As far as I know, it was removed/disabled because it was costing the company more to run the servers than it was worth. It was also probably not well-designed as it was quite a few years old.

There is also a DAW, Bitwig Studio, which was built with real-time collaboration in mind. The feature is currently yet to come, but if you're willing to switch DAWs for this feature then that's probably your best bet.

Personally, I think sharing projects, rendering stems, and collabing through Skype screen-sharing is fine for almost all needs.

:)

What's your source for this? It doesn't say anything about NAMM ...?

This image is around since their website relaunch ... http://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio/forthcoming.html

Here's what's official so far: http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/namm-2015-bitwig-previews-bitwig-studio-1-2-613976

You can map the Tempo and Mixer Faders to MIDI, so I can't see that being a problem for you.

Easiest thing for you to do, would be to download the demo and try it for yourself: http://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio/download.html

Renoise. Tracker style DAW.

Reaper. A more traditional type DAW.

Bitwig. Nice recently released DAW. A bit expensive IMHO.

And there are many, many, many others.

Really? The compressor looks more like the glue comp from ableton. Just looked like a darker skinned version of ableton to me.

His screen looked nothing like what I see here.

Ditto. I use FL Studio for all my beats. I am going to venture out though, and try a brand new DAW that is being released this year called, Bitwig. (http://www.bitwig.com) Some of the designers of Ableton Live, broke off to create this work of art. It looks very promising. Otherwise, it's FL Studio for everything, though eventually I would also like to learn Pro Tools.