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It could be the the CPU cooler is only partially mounted and one part of the chip that isn't measured is getting incredibly hot and throttling your system.

Run a CPU benchmark like Cinebench and if your PC crashes you know it's something to do with your CPU. If the results are in line with your CPU then look at your GPU and make sure your drivers are up to date.

If you keep Control Center open to monitor your CPU temps, it will wake up your dGPU, increasing power consumption. Does not explain the 80°C in browsing but it's not optimal. If you want to monitor temperatures, please use HWiNFO64 which has a much smaller footprint.

If your CPU cooling were to be compromised, this would reflect in sub-optimal CB R20 Multi scores.

• Please download: https://www.maxon.net/en-us/products/cinebench-r20-overview/
• Close all apps and windows
• Close Control Center as well. Keep it running in the background
• Switch to 'Enthusiast' mode
• Run the test, record your scores

Last time I checked I was getting 2966 points (CB R20 Multi) in 'Enthusiast' without any extra Undervolting (-50mV default Undervolt).

// Tom

For any tech support requests related to thermals and performance, provide concrete data to your post. For CPU, use Cinebench R20. For GPU, use Unigine Superposition. Track temperatures with HWiNFO64. Differentiate between "peak" (max) and sustained temperatures during each benchmark run.

Regarding Cyberpunk performance tuning, please read this review or watch the embedded video:

• Cyberpunk 2077 best PC settings: how to improve performance with minimal hit to quality

// Tom

"Cinebench R23 now supports Apple’s M1-powered computing systems"

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Done. https://www.maxon.net/en-us/products/cinebench-r20-overview/

Never set Speed Shift EPP higher than 80. If you do not check this option in ThrottleStop, Windows 10 will often times use a value of 84. That should be fine. Avoid 128 or above. Watch the FIVR monitoring table to see what Speed Shift EPP values your computer is using. Turn on the Log File option in ThrottleStop. It does an excellent job providing accurate CPU performance information in its log file. Some on screen data while gaming is not accurate.

There is no need to set the core and cache undervolt values equally. Use Cinebench R20 for testing purposes.

https://www.maxon.net/en-us/products/cinebench-r20-overview/

Most 9300H CPUs will run best when the cache is at -100 mV to -125 mV and then the core can be as high as -200 mV or a little more. If you lose stability when adjusting the core higher, lower the cache offset -10 mV to -115 mV and start testing again. It is always the cache that is the limiting factor.

Check the FIVR Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits box.

Unigine offers a range of benchmarks. The latest one is called Superposition, but I think the most used one is still Heaven.

Other than that there's Cinebench R20.

See how it goes first. If you're currently not noticing any problem, then there's no problem. If you want to know whether you're losing performance, then monitor the CPU performance during gameplay or whatever you do with an app like hwinfo (use the green download links, anything else is an advertisement) - once opened, select "Sensors Only" in the menu and OK, and track the temperature by degrees ℃elcius. If the CPU is in the 90℃ range and if the (effective) CPU speed in Mhz is dropping often when at that high range, then the CPU should be better cooled. You could also run a benchmark program like cinebench multiple times. The first benchmark score is probably the best score. Run the test maybe about 10 times in a row without stopping and see if the score drops noticeably (say, more than 100). If it does, then the CPU Mhz is likely lowering and the temperature is high.

If you don't have the need to upgrade beyond having the coolest toy, then I wouldn't upgrade. If you do upgrade, then see if there's an issue afterward. If there is, then the power supply likely needs to be upgraded. If a new power supply does not fit and connect with the existing system, then a new motherboard and case is likely required.

I experienced the same thing with my t420 with an i5-2450M, here's what I did to fix it.

First, check if the issue really is overheating. The way I did it is with HWiNFO, just start it up and monitor the temps, it also has a neat little indicator when the system is thermal throttling. My temps would rise to as much as 98 degrees while watching youtube. I If overheating is the case, there are a couple of things you can do.

On the software side, a thing you should do is install TPFanControl, it's just a program to control your fan speeds, and it comes with a couple of preset settings. I keep mine at "Smart Mode 2", however you might find something else to work better for you, so you can mess around with it. You can check the effectiveness of the settings with a benchmark test, such as CineBench. Pick a preset setting and let the test run, and see what setting gets you the best score.

On the hardware side, and I think you should definitely do this if you can, is reapply the thermal paste on the cpu, and do general dust cleaning off the cooler. In my particular instance, when opening up the laptop I found a non-stock heat sync, so replacing it helped tremendously.

I see that this is your work laptop and that you said you can't check the temps, so I'm unsure as to how much tinkering you are allowed to do with the machine seeing it's company property. If these options are unavailable to you, you could always get an external cooler to put under the laptop to provide additional cooling. They are quite cheap, but a lesser alternative to that would be just putting a book under the laptop to elevate it above the table, so it can more easily blow the air from within the system.

Hope this helps, and good luck!

Intel says that any CPU core temperature under 100°C is a "safe operating temperature". Operating your CPU at 80°C, 90°C or 95°C makes no difference to how long your CPU will last. Most CPUs end up in the closet due to old age, not thermal exhaustion.

Some games that use the AVX instructions can benefit from reducing the core offset voltage more than the cache offset voltage. It is a myth that these two voltages need to be set equally. Use Cinebench R20 for testing purposes.

https://www.maxon.net/en-us/products/cinebench-r20-overview/

Many 8th and 9th Gen CPUs were stable with the cache set to -125 mV and the core set to as much as -200 mV. This can help knock a few more degrees off your max temps. Adjust the core in steps of -10 mV or -20 mV and do lots of testing to make sure your CPU is stable. Both full load and part load testing is important. One or two threads of the TS Bench test is a good test.

You can also reduce the turbo ratio limits a little bit. For many games, a slightly slower CPU will barely be noticed. The difference in temperatures will usually be noticed.

Please provide more information.

• Which GPU is in your system?
• What are your GPU temperatures and GPU Clock Speeds when playing R6?
• When you run CPU or GPU benchmarks, can you meet the reference targets?

For benchmarks, start with Cinebench R20 and Unigine Superposition.

Cinebench is 100% pure CPU test. Superposition is almost 100% pure GPU test. This way, you get clean results and can isolate the issue, if there is any.

// Tom

Download Cinebench R20 from Maxon, the company that owns Cinebench.

https://www.maxon.net/en-us/products/cinebench-r20-overview/

You started off with your power limits at 70W and now you dropped the long term limit to 45W. Why did you decrease this?

Limit Reasons is only useful while there is a load on your CPU. Run Cinebench R20 and show a screenshot of ThrottleStop with Limit Reasons open with your CPU fully loaded. A limit of 45W will cause power limit throttling during this test.

The 9750H runs hot. Over 90°C is typical if you allow it to run at its rated speed. According to Intel, this is a safe operating temperature for this CPU. Actually, pretty much all Intel CPUs can run reliably at this temperature. Intel sets the thermal throttling temperature to 100°C for a reason.

Hi, can you please do a big favor for me, can you please run the Cinebench r20 bench on the non-OLED version?

Here is the official web-site link for your convenience https://www.maxon.net/en-us/products/cinebench-r20-overview/. It's free :-)

I am on the OLED version, but I think I am an IPS guy. PWM and occasional screen glitches really putting off the whole OLED thing :-(

BTW the IPS version from BB is 340 nit as confirmed by the specs and direct reply from BB on my enquiry.

Yea you would be, smite isn't intensive to run, but the fx 6100 is an ancient cpu, it's incredibly weak these days.

Here it is compared to the cheapest Ryzen chip

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-1300X-vs-AMD-FX-6100/3930vs1984

You can run smite, but smite only.

Don't expect anything more form a bulldozer cpu, the fx 6100 comes from when amd cpus were hot garbage back in 2011.

You are literally wasting money and gpu power by having a rtx 2060 paired up with that bulldozer chip, even buying the cheapest ryzen chip is better, but you'll have to change the motherboard as well.

You don't have to believe my words, run cinebench and see how piss poor the 6100 is today, https://www.maxon.net/en-us/products/cinebench-r20-overview/

Whoever told you the fx 6100 won't bottleneck a rtx 2060, is a bloody idiot who hasn't worked with computer hardware in years.

as /u/hbn3141 said, download CPU-Z and see what temperature your CPU is running at when you aren't doing anything (idle). Also download Cinebench and monitor the temperature when you run a stress test using Cinebench. If temps get over 95 degrees C then stop the test. Let us know what results you get.

Well, definitely download and test your PC with Cinebench then! (I've linked it above as well).
Archicad uses Cinerender engine to create renders, it's made by Maxon and Cinebench is their synthetic load test for PCs. It does use the same engine as well

There is a lot of solid info, I would like to add a few specific notes:
Go to your components manufacturers website, and download new drivers. Specifically check the

Motherboard and GPU manufacturers web

Check Archicad for updates

Check your CPU cooler is rated for the TDP your processor has (the stock cooler usually isn't good enough to run at consistent high load)

Test your hardware, you can use many free tools to look at the temperatures under load - to name a few, you can measure the temperatures with this and create the load with this - after googling you can get to ~5 tools for both for free.

Make sure all the drivers are updated.

You can run stress tests/benchmarks like Cinebench.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3356179/meet-the-new-tougher-cinebench-r20-benchmark-we-test-it-on-xeon-and-threadripper.html

https://www.maxon.net/en-us/products/cinebench-r20-overview/

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/cinebench-15-download.html

well one way of doing it is close all your applications (background games apps)

run something like cinebench r20 from maxon , use hwinfo.com or aida64 see your max temp and average temp over 14 to 30 minutes. aida 64 also has a builtin stress tool so either will work. anything under 75 to max 85 should be fine.

one thing to keep in mind is if you going to use it in a backpack or something make sure there is enough airflow, or else you might cook your laptop to death.

What BIOS version are you running? Some X570 boards suffered from slow boot times on the earlier BIOS versions.

>The PC just seems to be running slow to me honestly

Have you enabled XMP in bios for your RAM to run at it's advertised speed?

>CAM still showing 4.3

Don't use CAM as monitoring software.

Use Ryzen Master or HWinfo (or both)

By design your CPU will manually boost its core clock speeds or sleep cores, depending on the task you are currently doing. Open Ryzen Master and watch the core speeds change.

Run Cinebench R20 and post your score here and I'll tell you if your system is underperforming.