I must admit I did click on the Tabbles in your first post but once I saw that it was closed source and Windows only, I really didn't look further.
For something that is so crucial to long term data storage, open source + cross platform would be a full requirement for my needs.
I use some closed source software, but something like this would need to be open source. What happens when Tabbles stops being supported? With open source, if the software is useful, its usually forked and then maintained by a new group. That isn't possoble with closed source.
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Maybe this? https://www.tagspaces.org/ Haven't looked into it deeply, but its on my list now
Have a look at tagspaces -- it's an open standard for tagging photos that works across machine and file types. This can be done on any computer, even offline; then archiving your files in the cloud or wherever becomes a separate step.
find
& locate
are my best friends. And if you can't use cli, just press Ctrl+F in dolphin - it works just fine. Also what do you mean tag files? Do you mean like this: https://www.tagspaces.org/ ? You mean this is a BASIC thing? Did i miss something and every other DE's and OS's have this feature available out of the box?* not you of course
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porque tabela de excel? Devem ter meios melhores de info, de imediato me vem a ideia do https://www.tagspaces.org/ por exemplo, mas só pra foto em particular acredito que tenham ferramentas até melhores e específicas.
Quanto a HDs.....você mantém ao menos 2, 3 cópias idênticas em HDs diferentes né? (ou talvez RAID)
E as cópias são guardadas em ambientes físicos distintos, certo? Um escritório e um depósito em outro canto da cidade (ou mais longe), ou até mesmo casa do dono, cofre de banco, etc. Não vai correr risco à toa de perder tudo num incêndio, inundação, roubo, tornado, o que seja.....
check out TagSpaces. I'm thinking it may not be automated enough for your purposes, but I rather like it so I'm throwing it out there. I don't focus on file naming, rather on the tagging of data collections. Thing is, with TS you don't really need to put or file into a logical structure although I prefer it that way. TS spaces allows for you to search for tagged items across a data mount so the targeted tag's data can be scattered around and still logically organized and findable.
> All the tagging data is stored with the file
Just to clarify, the default is to change the file name but not modify the file itself. See FAQs
> Where does TagSpaces save the meta data such as tags? > > The tags are added in name of the file, so for example if you tag the file “img-9832.jpg” with the tags “sunset” and “bahamas” it will be renamed to “img-9832 [sunset bahamas].jpg”. The Pro version of TagSpaces, has an option to save the tags in sidecar files.
Use tags and color to organize. Put all your files in a folder, and point this at it.
It works on Win, Mac, Linux and Android. It works as a file manager, is open source, and has extensions for more file types.
Frome their website, this is the pertinent section for your use case, but it is so much more.
"Note taking and information collecting TagSpaces products can be used as alternative for Evernote's note taking and web scrapping functionalities. You can create and edit notes in plain text, markdown or HTML file formats. With our web clipper for Chrome you can save web page content in HTML or MHTML formats for later use, allowing you to use the application similar to the many "read in later" services. Preserving the content as it is by the time of the saving. By saving of a given web pages, its URL is embedded into the created file, so you are have automatically a bookmark to it. This allows you to use TagSpaces as a bookmark manager. You can create To-Do lists and organize them in a kind of offline personal wiki for tracking your projects, ideas or memories."
I don't use a collection of text files for gtd but do respect the reasoning of those who do. If I were to do that, I'd use tagspaces (www.tagspaces.org) which is the best tool I'm aware of to be a front-end to plain text files and directories of anything.
I tried almost all open source note taking apps like zim, turtle, standard notes, etc. I even tried handling everything in sublime text. Now I go with tagspaces which works with local files and folders. I like the idea of this app.
The closest thing I can find (and I've been looking for years as well) is tagspaces. It has the websnipper add-on for firefox that I loved with evernote and also supports markdown. It can be run with note files stored in a local folder structure or remotely connecting to a WebDAV server (seafile, nextcloud, etc.)
Same boat, been looking into organising my dowloads and one solution is using folders and tagging your files. Tagspaces could work, but I'm still researching before starting.
I think your main problem is that you organize by filename/directory only which is fine in most cases... but shows its limits here.
You should instead rely on tags. Search will then be much easier and faster. And you won't have to choose e.g. [Politics]->[USA] over [History]->[USA], just put all of them as tags.
Calibre offers this feature. It's a bit heavy and clunky IMHO, but it's specialized in organizing ebooks.
There are also tag-based file managers which work for any file, not ebooks only. I only have experience with Tabbles on Windows which is great but there is a similar application on Linux: TagSpaces (be warned that it saves tags by renaming your files).
You might also check tmsu which is accessible from the terminal which you seem to prefer ("I don't want to have to go through an application interface"), but also implements a virtual tag-based filesystem which allows you to access tags from any command/program (it actually creates symlinks like you already do but it's all automatic).
A possible easier solution: tag them using the TagSpaces standard which works for any file type, using some sort of mapping between URLs and tags? The token tinyurl generates might suffice, or maybe roll your own mapping.
Maybe Tagspaces? You're not going to be able to tag a file within the file itself (sans renaming the file) and get universal support. The file type would have to support it natively (ie: JPEGs).
So you're going to have to use a central database, file renaming, or sidecars (metadata files for files). Tagspaces seems to be multi platform and supports sidecars, so you should be able to use it on different systems all touching the same set of files without mucking with a central database. And it should leave the files in-place. Reading the docs, it recommends you use the built-in file browser to move/rename files with sidecars, but it looks like you can do it externally as well (just by hand).
I haven't personally used it, but that seems to by and large be your best bet, especially for a turnkey solution.
I was reading a bit about DevonThink today and am considering trying it.
I also came across this link today - which looks like it may be a solution worth trying. I have dropbox, but also have Microsoft OneDrive that offers 1TB of storage since I purchased an office subscription. Using cryptomater + tagspaces won't give all the functionality of evernote but it seems like a more secure way of storing sensitive data that I would have normally stored in a local notebook.
https://www.tagspaces.org/blog/using-tagspaces-with-cryptomator/
Right now, my thoughts are that is this works, that data is in the cloud, but encrypted locally before being sent. Therefore, secure and unencryptable if compromised. I'll use that as my filing cabinet for scanned documents, and as for notetaking look for a separate application.
I'm leaning towards the cryptomater option - as DevonThink while most reviews are positive - is itself proprietary software - and I certainly wouldn't want to be in this same place again in the future if they go under
I thinkTagSpaces may be right for you! It’s pretty polished.
I wrote my own CLI tool which works super well for me but may not be right for most. And I don’t know what OS you’re on but this has only ever been tested on macOS and Linux
Late reply, but felt it was worth mentioning: TagSpaces would be a good fit. You can use it lmke a normal file browser but apply "tags" to samples so each one can have its own list.
I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but I would reckon it's more versatile than the Splice desktop software alone since it'll handle any kind of media: pictures, documents, music, samples, invoices, todo lists, notes to yourself, etc.
If they're going to be web-accessible, I'd take the advice in https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI ("Cool URLs Don't Change") and just store the file under a dated directory (YYYY/MMDD/your-filename).
Then use some type of file-tagging software to make it show up in as many places as you like. This looks interesting, but I haven't used it: https://www.tagspaces.org/
https://www.tagspaces.org/ Can quickly "rename" the files the way you're describing and even help you search for them later.
I also like Hydrus. It handles PDFs just fine. I really like the idea of using tags for these types of files. No need to worry about organization just tag your files and search later by whatever you can remember, no need to dive through a ton of folders or know that you called it "son's_bill" or "Eric's_bill" just tag it with everything and you'll be able to find it later. Fair warning though, Hydrus is not for the faint of heart. Steep learning curve. But it's free and currently still being rapidly developed.
Well, if you would want this only locally (on your machine/s), I'd recommend TagSpaces. I doubt you could run it publicly for the world to see though (if that's your aim). If not, it will suit you perfectly.
It's quite simple, like an file manager, parsing tags from file names in [this format]. So no vedor lock-in etc. No servers, no cloud. But then again, you can share the files yourself (GDrive, Nextcloud or whatever) even with other users of TagSpaces and you would end up with centralized db of stuff.
A big Google Keep note for lyric bits. Melody bits hummed into a voice recording app. Audio recordings on laptop -- every song gets its own folder, so I can keep drum and guitar tracks, lyrics, old versions, etc. for a song all together. Then these folders are grouped by year.
I'm a software developer so I'm working on taking it further -- I like the concept of [tags](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_(metadata\)) so I'm trying to roll my own app for tagging lyric bits and plan to use TagSpaces to tag song directories. I haven't been actively writing lately so this effort has languished a bit.
Not sure about PDF-specific stuff, but no need to limit to that.
There are tagging systems for any type of file, e.g:
I've looked into them a few times of the years. But generally just come to the conclusion that it's not worth it for my own needs.
Alternatively you could just do something with symlinks/shortcuts. Would probably need some scripting though.
This isn't a builtin feature in linux filesystems, or any of the usual file managers that I know of. I did find this file manager which touts it as a feature:
I think the tagging part is in the free version.
On tip#1 : You might like Tagspaces. By default is configured to create tags in file names and can be configured to automatically create tags that meet certain criteria. For example automatically tagging (and renaming) files with creation date. You could create more and more tags and it'll quickly rename your files with the appropriate information. You can still search files from outside of the app too.
On tip#2 : This assumes the purpose of the hoard. We all have our reasons for hoarding, some to remember, some to preserve, some because it's a compulsion to have stuff, some people like the idea of organization... I think randomization is great for triggering nostalgia and/or remembering what you've hoarded, but it's fairly useless for a hoard of Linux ISOs. ** >_< **oh man remember Feisty Fawn what a release... I'm so glad that showed up in my feed.
Some people will argue that renaming stuff destroys the preservation of the original work, but these are honestly good tips. It's important to know what we're hoarding and curation is big part of that battle.
was thinking like that, but results would at least take 6? months as I understand it, and I would burn out this way if I want to release once weekly - either way thanks
random tool: tagspaces https://www.tagspaces.org/ - manage your media with tags (free forever version is good enough) also it has an elegant, clean and colorful user interface
Windows doesn't allow tag oriented file system, unfortunately. OSX has it, and there are number of tools on linux that utilize filesystem in userspace Linux feature.
Rolling out your own can be a thing, but, not on enterprise level. Here are some cross-platform tools you can try:
The main stuff about it is that files can be moved with tags, which your solution doesn't allow hence its void and usable only in 1 user scenario. Way better solution is to utilize Windows alternative file streams.
> I must ask - why this over folders for organisation?
Folders are categories, hence one file can belong to one category only. Tags allow more natural organization. For example, music albums are many times in multiple categories, electronic, jazz, ambient for example. Using folders to organize music doesn't make any sense.
That is not as simple as it may sound. Afaik, not all file types can store tagging information within the file itself. This is why some applications, like TagSpaces, store tag information either within the file name or in separate files.
An alternative approach is to have a central tag database and manage all files through it. I developed such an application (shameless plug). With allTags you can tag all your files and access them centrally. This way you don´t need folders or file names and can solely rely on tags to find and manage your content.
If either solution fits your need, they both have free versions.
It looks that TagSpaces could work for you. It uses just plain files for your notes, which means no database or any kind content locking to some third party service. It also has a web clipper. Using just files enables to use any kind of file sync services like Dropbox, Nextcloud, Google Drive ....
Just use plain old markdown, text or html files for writing the notes and organize them with tools like TagSpaces. If you need these files on the cloud, keep them synchronized with Dropbox or the cloud sync service of your choice.
DigiKam works great even with decently large collections, IMO it's not the best for diverse collections (web-clippings, random memes, and garbage gifs etc.). It would be my go to if I wasn't already addicted to Lightroom, which also isn't great for random junk. I agree with you where the main weakness to Hydrus is that it copies files into it's own organization scheme, but really it's a "strength". Kind of a DATA first rule for the software. I don't mess with the source so you can decide what you want to do whenever you're ready to do it. It also dismisses completely the idea of filenames in favor of tagging and searching. It's completely off-putting at first, but is really awesome once you get used to it.
Another option might be TagSpaces. But I hate how you're limited by filename length, and the fact that it renames files to add tags. It's an interesting method, but something about it doesn't sit well with me. It does everything else you're looking to do though, files remain in place, searchable tags, somewhat auto-tagging (you can setup rules), free OSS and commercial options, when a file is removed, it is removed from search. I tried it for a while, but it just didn't work for me, personal reasons, not technical reasons.
Thank you.
The way you use tags is similar to Tagspaces in the way that tags are added to the file names. I'd prefer a tool that saves the tags in a database or hidden folder instead to avoid files being copied during backups every time a tag is added. Would have loved to discover tags in Everything.
For those who are interested, I tried 2-3 different solutions (Calibre, Cloudfind, Mac OS), and settled on using Tag Spaces. It has Win/Mac versions, and doesn't require anything extra (SQL server, cloud sync, etc). It renames the files with your tags, so it's not the sexiest solution, but it seems to work well.
Thanks for all your attention and suggestions everyone!
This is a interesting topic, i struggle too with the IDM of the app photos.
After some research, and i didn't test any but here you go :
http://www.unboundformac.com/
https://www.lynapp.com/
and this one that is not exacly a IDM but i like the overall offer :
https://www.tagspaces.org/
PS: Give some feedback if you know those app.
Just looked through it and it does seem to be in pretty early development. I think ideally I'd move all of my files onto google drive and manage them with some kind of tagging system like https://www.tagspaces.org/
I found navigating the interface pretty unresponsive though. I don't really know what to do.
This is why I write almost exclusively in plain text, because then you can find/grep your way to glory.
I think there is a system wide search in KDE, nepomonk or akondi or something like that.
Also tagspaces: https://www.tagspaces.org/
There was a similar thread about a day ago where I recommended to take a look at TiddlyWiki, a single-file wiki-like HTML document. I use it as a knowledge base for both private and professional information and sync it over WebDAV, but of course Dropbox or whatever also works.
Adding screenshots is possible either by linking to an external document or by storing the image in the wiki file itself.
In the thread I mentioned above /u/oleg_sk mentioned Tagspaces, which I hadn't heard of before but it looks really interesting and I can see how it would be useful if you keep your notes organized in a file system hierarchy.
Basically you need some sort of library software that support tagging ... not sure what's out there for videos in that regard.
PS: a quick google search brought up https://www.tagspaces.org/, which seems to be a cool solution for not just the video case
Something to consider is TagSpaces, an open-source standard for using tags instead of folders.
If you're not familiar with the concept of tags, they're just labels you can associate with files. Any file can have any number of such tags. Then, you can search based on any given tag.
TagSpaces works on any platform and for any type of file (since it saves the tags in the filename itself). It would let you group your files any way you want without having to copy them.
(Note: I have not applied TagSpaces to my genealogy files, but I'm considering it. I'd be curious to hear if anyone else has.)