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Silicone covers are pretty reusable I thought. I have a package with about six sets that have lasted me for nine months so far, and going strong. If you wash them with gentle soap they get sticky again.
The calculator is built to handle transwomen. It has a button for assigned male at birth! So I would still try it.
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I do think it's worth getting a soft tape measure. This kind of thing. You can sometimes find them at the dollar store.
I have had this problem with damn near every bra I’ve ever worn. It sometimes would get so bad during the day that when I took off my bra at night, there would be drops of blood from where my skin had gotten severely irritated. Nothing I did helped - different styles, different sizes, tightening the straps, loosening the band... it was fucking miserable, but my boobs are too big to go without a bra, so I was kinda shit out of luck.
And then I found these things (possibly from perusing this subreddit tbh) and ordered a set. And now I wear one every single day, and haven’t had a problem since. They’re fucking amazing. You literally just tuck them between the underwire and your body, and the bra will hold it in place all day. And, as an added bonus, it does a nice job of wicking away boob sweat.
Lane Bryant and Torrid (I don't know Maurice's) have very wide, tall cups. The cups are tall enough that most people under 6'6" or thereabouts could smuggle a couple of small mammals in the top of the cups.
Try this in 48B and 46C, and report back! https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Glamorise-Collaboration-Comfort/dp/B07T1JX2HM/
Based upon your measurements and your calculated size I would say that your old bras were simply too small. Especially the breasts falling out of the bottom of wireless bras is a clear sign of a too small cup in combination with a too large band.
So my recommendation would be to give bras (both wired and non-wired) a completely new chance in your correct size.
Two bras that are very comfy bc they are meant to be slept in are the Royce Blossom and the Bravado Essential Embrace.
Royce uses UK sizes, you'd need the size "36 E/F/FF" from them. Bravado uses US sizes, in the Embrace you could try both "36 F/G" and "36 H/i".
Two other wireless bras that you could try in your size range would be the Elomi Cate wireless and the Royce Charlotte, both are made for a full on bottom shape.
Personally I find that non-wired bras put too much pressure on my shoulders. I used to hate underwires with a passion when I was stuck in 44DD bras, now that I wear around 40/42 GG/H (US 40/42 J/K) the wires are much larger and wider and comfy as hell. You will need to pry my underwire bras out of my dead cold hands. :)
That said, a possible approach to a comfortable bra with underwires can be to choose bras that have soft wires. I know the Anita Rosa Faia Twin and the Fantasie Belle have relatively soft wires, ditto for the Elomi Amelia and the Hotmilk and Cake Lingerie Nursing bras. So this would be something to look into.
Nursing mom here. A proper fitting bra won't squeeze enough to make you leak. I really like these nursing pads because they have a waterproof backing. I had an issue leaking through regular cotton ones. I think there are a few cheaper similar ones on Amazon, these were cheap when I bought them and the only ones I've used in the year and a half I have been nursing.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DZB0F1Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_bgnbAbF3CAB8Y
The Panache wired sports bra might be what you're looking for if you want separation. It holds you pretty secure even with jumping and running, and is very full coverage. The only trouble I've run into with it is I am a very short, petite woman and the wires are a little too wide and tall for me, but that may be a non-issue for you.
Panache Women's Underwired Sports Bra, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005VNFJFW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_R-BABbF1766D4
That seems about right, leaning closest to 30F out of the 4 sizes but if she can try more than one (or all) of them that would be ideal.
The reason the calculator suggested posting is that it seems she has soft breast tissue. This means she likely has a projected shape, which can cause some size variations. She could technically be anywhere from 30E to 30GG. Most likely somewhere in the middle.
It also means she’ll do best with unlined, seamed bras. That means this style rather than this style, paying more attention to the fabrics and construction than the coverage or visual shape.
Congrats! Please post your bra size according to the calculator in the sidebar - we can't give good suggestions without that. That being said, i had great luck with this bra for my wedding dress. I was a 30DD/32D - smallish, but a pretty common size - and ordered the medium. I'm also reasonably self-supported and just needed some cleavage, so YMMV. This brand does carry a larger cup size version, according to the size chart in the pics. Good luck!
There's always The Little Bra Company! They do styles to suit people who wear something in the ballpark of your size, and are made for adults. If those are still too pricey, no worries-- the sister size (size with the same volume in the cup area) to the 34AA you mentioned is 32A, which is probably readily available in stores near you. The bands may be a little tight, but you can pick up these really cheap, useful things called extenders that basically add a little more to the band. You can find them at craft or sewing stores, on Amazon, and I think on AliExpress. If you can get a multi-pack of extenders, a 32A bra may work well for your needs right now.
The reason that training bras might be the best call for you right now is basically to save you some money (and maybe physical discomfort, if not mental discomfort you brought up), since you brought up not wanting to spend a lot. Since you have just started transitioning, your breasts may end up larger if you end up starting hormones. Growth--how much you would get, and when/how it would happen--is really hard to predict. A too-tight bra can be quite uncomfortable, and from what I understand a training bra may have some give while also supporting what you have currently.
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If you're insistent on that one you could get a UK forwarding address and use a VPN (I recommend NordVPN). The VPN makes you look like your computer is in the UK and the forwarding address gives you a real physical UK address that will forward any packages to your real address for a fee.
Well id recommend these for sure. They are very comfy. Definitely a bra you could fall asleep in and ive done that multiple times unintentionally.
Hanes Women's X-Temp ComfortFlex Fit Pullover Bra MHH570 2-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009DJCHWI/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_a_VQM7MJ9YWQF9Q68XBVBA
I'd been wanting to mention this somewhere but I kept forgetting and I think this is a relevant thread for it, =) there's a company on kickstarter right now hoping to make bras for young girls and it isn't only S-M-L crop top trianing bras, they actually also want to offer underwired bras in sizes 28 A&B, 30-32 A-C, 34B&C and 36C (I'm assuming on that last one as the 36C isn't actually labeled but the box where 36C would be is filled in...) along with some non wired bras in 28AA &A, 30AA-C, 32A-C and 34B&C https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/redwoodgirls/redwood-girls
Another man here. Recently found something that works well for me. I am a 38A and use no wire unpadded types. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L3M7ZPG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share I recommend this. It's a racer back convertible that is very comfortable and provides some support.
This also works but has more compression https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SRX364K?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Feel free to reply with questions, I've been using them for a few years trying to find the best ones.
Hi there! I'm pretty much the same size as you (30HH) and I had a low-back wedding dress as well (pictures here)! What I did was sister size into this AMAZING low-back bustier bra here. Because it sits on your waist, you can go up a band size or two. I ended up wearing a 34G in it. It's smooth, comfortable, and stayed up no problem.
Correct. So if you feel cooler without a bra, go for it. For those of us who are pendulous wearing a well fitting unlined bra is more comfortable because it prevents skin-on-skin contact underneath the breasts which can lead to fungal infections and rashes. I’m wearing this one right now. It’s very thin mesh fabric. I’m cool as a cucumber and quite comfortable.
Get nipple covers. They are simple and usually pretty cheap and will act as a barrier between you and the elements. I don't know if you're particularly hairy but if you are I do suggest removing the hair around your nipples as they usually attach with a mild adhesive and that doesn't bode well for fuzzy people. You could probably wear a bra but it would need to be pretty padded and fit flush against your skin to lessen the irritation. If possible let them heal first if there is any visible chafing/bleeding.
Here are some cheap silicone ones on Amazon; they're only 2.99. https://www.amazon.com/Undercover-Silicone-Nipple-Covers-Pasties/dp/B00428ZHRC
I like Shock Absorber Active Multi Sport. The band runs tight, definitely go with 30GG. If you hunt on Amazon and eBay you can find them pretty cheap. Here’s one.
Well, if you're interested, please do try the bra I suggested in both 44DD and 42E for comparison's sake. It's a great bra for sizing and just in general if it fits you. I do believe that with the measurements you posted, 44DD is likely to fit better, but I'm suggesting trying both as they are returnable and it's better to compare. Also feel free to make a fit check post if you want any help about the fit, or have any questions. This can be with or without pictures, at your discretion.
I know you're feeling discouraged, but sometimes it does take awhile to get the right fit, and trying a variety of styles and sizes. I think you can have success if you persevere, but only you can decide how much time and effort you're able to put into this.
Almost all Curvy Kate bras (and the majority of UK bras) are so-called side pull strap bras, meaning the straps are outwards from the apex.
You will most likely have more success with center-pull strap bras such as Panache Andorra or Fantasie Fullcups where the strap is positioned closer above the apex.
Another solution would be multiway bras that allow you to cross the straps in the back like Curvy Kate Luxe and Elomi Kelly.
If the straps are almost the correct width strapholders can work. Example
That said, if the difference is as drastic as you drew it in your pic, consider that the cups might be too large.
There is some correlation between potential root size and ribcage size and ribcage size usually has some connection to the bone structure of your shoulders. So some bras show a too large cup and or a shape mismatch by straps that are way too wide for the shoulders.
I can practically guarantee you need to size yourself. you can use the /r/ABraThatFits tool, and post your measurements here for ppl to help check results for you.
an easier way, that also works great, use this video. do you have a tape measure?
edit: my mom never took me bra shopping.
Try panache underwire sports bra. It comes in so many sizes and is great for high impact. I couldn’t recommend it more! I think they also make a non wired one if that’s what you are looking for, I’ve never tries that though. https://www.amazon.com/Panache-Womens-Underwired-Sports-Black/dp/B005VNFJFW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1538923190&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=panache+underwire+sports+bra&dpPl=1&dpID=41z%2Bal%2Bc7yL&ref=plSrch
You can buy this strap attachment thing that makes the back of your bra go down lower so as not to be seen on amazon!
Post op thoracotomy? I feel your pain. I personally wore this cotton- mostly front close bra it’s not sexy, but super comfortable. And more supportive than you might think. I wore it inside out by the way which worked really well and keeps the elastic off scars.
I wear a 38g, so support is important! I’m all healed up now and wear this as a sleep bra
I'm a big fan of Panche's nonwired sports bras. I'm not sure if that meets your "yoga bra" criteria, but when I wear sports bras now, this is my preference for both regular exercise and running.
While other posters have made some good points, I'd also look to see if they're described that way on the manufacturer's websites. I've seen bras listed on Amazon as "full figure" or "plus size" that absolutely don't fit that description (e.g.full-bust bras from Cleo and Freya that come in 28 bands, like this). So I think sometimes you have sloppy writing by whoever makes the ads.
I had a similar issue and really love this bra!. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073RX65L2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
I know it says it's a nursing bra, but that is just a title. it is very comfortable and actually pretty supportive. They also have a wonderful option to keep the small band size and just make the boob size bigger. I am currently measuring as a 36H(UK) and the large busty fit perfectly!
I would recommend you try Elomi Amelia. Try it in both sizes recommended by the calculator and see which one fits better. It's really hard to say if these cup sizes will be too large. The calculator does sometimes overestimate cup size with larger band sizes, but you'll get a better idea by comparing the two sizes in the same bra. Be sure to scoop and swoop, but please ignore all the pulling of the band in back that is illustrated in that blog post. Pulling the band away from your back is not a good way to test band fit. Better ways are to check that the band feels supportive but comfortable, stays in place when you move around normally and raise your arms and keeps all breast tissue encapsulated, ideally sits parallel to the floor all around. What you refer to as the "meat" under your arms is almost certainly your Tail of Spence which does not go into the bra cup, but when the cups are large enough you shouldn't get the appearance of your breasts themselves spilling over the sides.
Mine is a "work from home and be able to greet delivery/maintenance people" situation, but I had a similar need for a light-coverage bra. I ended up getting the Hanes Cozy Seamless Wire-Free Bra which is comfortable and suitable for that, especially since I usually have a sweater on. I ordered a size medium for a 34G, if you are measured correctly at a 34DD you'd probably want the size small to prevent uniboob and get a result more like the product pictures.
Many people put a squishy make up sponge under the gore for a few days to weeks while the bra gets ‘broken in’. It just takes a little wear for the wires to soften up a little/ adjust to your body.
Another option that I’ve used are little sticky heel pads that are meant to go on the back of shoes to stop your heel rubbing and getting blisters. They are very soft and pretty comfy. I just cut them smaller and stuck them on the gore covering the wire. The sticky quickly wears off, but I’ve found the bra keeps it in place fine.
If you are open to scouring Reddit or other corners of the internet, you can often find great deals on lightly used, only tried on, and NWT bras. I’ve gotten some NWT and unworn bras for as low as $5 plus shipping.
Some good places to try on Reddit include /r/randomactsofbras and /r/braswap . You can also check the listings section of Bratabase.com.
I made an IFTTT recipe to automatically notify when a bra is listed on Reddit. you can clone it and change the parameters to suit what fits you. Check it out:
New bras in your size on /r/braswap https://ifttt.com/applets/433432p
Find bras in your size for free on Reddit's r/RandomActsOfBras https://ifttt.com/applets/433359p
Don’t despair. Happy hunting!
You will have better luck looking for bras if you look for the sizes brands actually use which would be a UK 32F or a US 32G. Pretty much the only brands that use DDDD are going to label that size as DDDD/G or are going to be UK brands that aren't bothering to correctly convert between UK and US sizing on the tag. A lot of brands screw up the sizing conversions on the tags so you should ALWAYS go by the system the brand uses not the system associated with your location.
Brands like CUUP, Thirdlove, Torrid, and Lane Bryant use their own sizing system and are not following regular US sizing.
The Gossard Glossies bra (link is just an example, you may find it cheaper elsewhere) is an extremely popular one that always gets recommended for people who are outside of the tiny size range that CUUP has. Gossard is a UK brand which means you would need a UK 32F.
I think if you talk with whoever is doing alterations, they might be able to give you better ideas, but I have heard of people having their favorite strapless sewn into the dress. I've also seen strapless gown extenders that wrap around the body to lower the back strap similar to this that can work ok.
It depends on size when it comes to Amazon. Sometimes the same bikini will be either full price or 80% off. It’s interesting, but you may wanna check it out with your size. Usually I just put in the search bar “bikini 30H” and then add a brand name if necessary. But I’ll give you the link to the really cheap ones below. There are plenty of others though. On Breakout Bras and Bra Stop too.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BW9KGVG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GdEQCbTZBHD86
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078YQ9RXY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_0fEQCbFTE18A2
I think Amazon might have some 48As. Can’t speak to the fit or quality though but you could order and return if they don’t fit:
Rosme Womens Balconette Bra, Collection Grand https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0855R55HJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6Z7QHDNM2BCHCAQVK9Y6?psc=1
Glamorise Women's Perfect A Full Figure Wireless Padded Bra #3010 (A Cup Only) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072N8WLRQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_D82DC6XHV1R3QQNT5N5J?psc=1
I’m not sure if we’re looking at the same product as I’ve seen a few sellers with this item. The one I purchased from at has K cups, it’s Freya’s store.
I'm trans, but currently have minimal chest development.
I wear a Calvin Klein cotton bralette. I'm not publicly out and no one seems to notice I'm wearing a bra.
It should work for your purposes too.
Honey, forget hiding the nipples with bra cups.
You need some Nippies.
I bought a pair of these more than two years ago and they're still going strong, shielding my nipples even when all I'm wearing is an unlined bra and a thin, stretchy t-shirt.
I'll admit, sometimes when I catch a chill (like coming into an AC blasted building from the heat of a Texas summer), there will be a short time where a suggestion of a nipple might be seen through a thin t-shirt.
But these Nippies changed my bra-wearing life. They were suggested to me on Reddit when I got tired of taping my nips down (I can't believe I did that for MONTHS before I decided there had to be a better way).
When it comes to comfort, I really thought I just had to suffer, because even a correctly-fitting bra in the right style for my shape is uncomfortable and even painful sometimes. I'm autistic and some things are just irritating to my body, bras being one of them. This summer, in a fit of overheated desperation, I tried an unlined Fruit of the Loom bra: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TGSKG75/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Life. Changed. It runs a little big in the cups - I wear a 40FF in UK bras, so would normally be a 40H in US sizes, but the 40G fits great. It's. So. Damn. Comfy. It's a cotton/spandex blend, whereas most bras are synthetic materials, and honestly it makes a huge difference. No scratchy material, no poky side boning, the seams aren't irritating. The straps aren't constantly falling off my shoulders, or digging in at the front. And it's $16. It's not available in any fun colors, but it's COMFY.
I don't know how well this will work for you if you're breastfeeding, but someone on this sub recommended Nippie Skins to me when I asked how to hide nipples in unlined bras and I love them.
They're non adhesive so you can reuse them indefinitely, but the silicone does a pretty good job of sticking to your skin on it's own so it doesn't shift around too much. I wear them 5 days a week, since all of my work bras are unlined, and I don't have a single complaint.
Here they are on amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001O482W4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_iMR8CbM4NTYCF
If poking your undershirt under the band helps, you could consider looking into bra liners/protectors like this: Hypoallergenic Bamboo/Cotton Bra Liner (White, 3-pack, XL) - Protects sensitive skin https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K1WJLEW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_m7ZBCb956CKYY. They’re meant to help with sweat, but could maybe help your problem too? Having said that, ive never personally tried them and can’t say comfortable or effective they are.
You could try getting an extender to give yourself a little more space on the band without going up a full size. Something like this : https://www.amazon.com/Extender-Breathing-3pcs-Pack-Narrow-Spacing/dp/B013JG7J7I/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544902852&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=bra+extender&psc=1
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Pectus Carinatum. I have this too. I prefer bras with a very low and wide gore like Natori Feathers. However that's not easy to find especially in a nursing bra. I bend the wires to match my sternum. It's very hard to get the right bend so it's not an all day solution. I also like bralettes with a wide elastic band like this one Mae Bra
I gotchu, fam! I use this as a lounge bra because I also cannot bare my boobs touching anything. The crossover keeps them apart and the band is good and tight. You don't get the high round boob look. They aren't super supportive, i bike to work and can't wear this because the bumps kill me. But I love them and they are mad cheap. I wear a 30G in normal bras and the 34G in this fits me great. https://www.amazon.com/DELIMIRA-Womens-Wirefree-Comfort-Support/dp/B01MR7HZ7J?pd_rd_w=V0PGu&pf_rd_p=d3c611be-256d-40a4-831c-be3d66f31dd1&pf_rd_r=81BNTYE55V9B8HNKVK6V&pd_rd_r=0ad832dd-4f33-455a-88e3-297a21cc9851&pd_rd_wg=FHCyM&p...
This (Hanes bra linked above) is my holy grail go-to lounge bra. The material is unlike anything I’ve ever felt and has retained its shape for years. The price is too good to pass up.
Edit: cheaper here
Hanes Women's SmoothTec ComfortFlex Fit Wirefree Bra MHG796 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U5TC6C6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_GHMP3GDK5TAS8JKXKQ8J
This has more coverage on the back without covering the whole torso if that’s closer? Or perhaps a shorter longline?
Don’t worry about getting more specific. I don’t mind refining the search more to figure out what would work best for you, even if it takes some more tries.
Here's a link to the bra page on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015OHRTAM?pf_rd_p=0341f622-1508-4712-8614-4588a55d8cf4&pf_rd_r=G8VNS8RN6WH987WG92D4&pd_rd_wg=JoHM2&pd_rd_i=B00GSM2QG0&pd_rd_w=8ZjXH&pd_rd_r=8d5a2062-5e7d-418d-a21c-b2317df8d662&ref_=pd_luc_rh_ci_mcx_mr_huc_d_01_01_t_ttl_lh&th=1&psc=1
There are "wider" strap connectors (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E5TWQUI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) that pull the straps in a variable amount. That can change the shape of your cups so your mileage may vary.
It's not exactly cute, but the Kindred Bravely maternity bra might work for you! I wear a 28G/30FF and Small Busty works well for me, very comfortable. They're available on UK and US Amazon as far as I know.
Boux Avenue also do bra-sized bralettes, but if you're not in the UK then I'm not sure what their international postage is like.
Some of the popular ones are Freya active, panache sport, and shock absorber. I've had luck buying this one from Amazon as I can't afford any of the others mentioned. May have to sister size up one band size as most sports bras have extra stiff bands.
Also if you haven't done so you should measure your self with the calculator in the sidebar, you will never have a supportive running bra if you are in the wrong size.
Bralettes are cute but they often flattens your shape a bit. I tried this bralette on Amazon which comes in regular bra sizes, but their cups are small--I would suggest you to try 30C if not 30D.
Alternatively, you could try regular bras and see if you can find one without wires or with wires that do not hurt you. Aerie and Uniqlo have quite a few wireless bras which you may like.
>> why two sizes?
Because your measurements put you between sizes. That does not mean you ARE between sizes (cup sizes are staggered pretty close together, so one is sure to work better than the other). It just means you won’t know which until you try.
I sound like a broken record from how often I recommend this bra, but: Panache Envy. Ideal starter bra for those at larger cup sizes who are projected and somewhere in the even-to-full-on-bottom range.
I checked a few websites to see if there are any under $50 and discovered one for $44.64 on Amazon in 36FF (color ivory): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OZK7KOU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_3bjLEbKK47JTG
I also found one for sale on Bare Necessities, $45.99 in size 36G (color purple): https://www.barenecessities.com/panache-envy-side-support-balconette-bra-7285_product.htm?pf_id=Panache7285&color=Rose%20Sienna
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I bought one on Amazon for a wedding I was going to with a backless dress. I was a 32G at the time. It cost me $10, kept my boobs up and stuck all night. I've worn it multiple times since with sundresses. I think this is the one I bought (in size D). Currently less than $6 with free shipping.
World Pride Self Adhesive Silicone Nude Color Backless Strapless Bra (D) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IPC2A62/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_sZPpub0ADM599
Goddess is a great brand for that size range. Goddess bras retail for around 45-55 USD at full price, but I have seen them go as low as 35 USD.
Goddess Adelaide Banded in blush is currently sold for 30 USD on amazon. Link
If I was you I would grab both the 38H and the 38i and compare.
Ewa is pronounced like Eva. Here is Michalak.
In short, the complete opposite of how I've been pronouncing it in my head...
Goddess Kiera does not have lace and may work with your wide root. It may not be projected enough, but it's worth a try. (Goddess is a distant corporate cousin of Elomi, too.)
https://smile.amazon.com/Goddess-Womens-Plus-Size-Underwire-Chocolate/dp/B004GK4YR0
Glamorise is US sizing -- that's why it was way too small.
This is a very niche answer, to be honest, but Japanese kimono bras are awesome for this! True kimono, at least women’s kimono, are meant to be worn with a sort of “pigeon-chest” look. Kimono bras redistribute breast tissue and minimize the chest to give a flatter appearance, somewhere between a sports bra and a binder though not as dramatic as either, and it sounds as if you may be able to find a suitable fit. I’m not agender but I’m comparatively chesty (34I) and a kimono bra flattens me pretty well for dressing up. Here’s what it looks like. Amazon has a few in English or, if you have a Japanese-speaking friend, Amazon Japan or Rakuten will have them.
Hanes is your friend. They make larger versions of pullover training bras in S/M/L sizes as well as super stretchy stuff that hooks in the back.
I am currently wearing this one in Medium as a size 34FF (34H US). For a 32 band try Small, for a 28-30 band try XS. They are really meant for sizes around C-DD but could go larger or smaller easily enough.
These Hanes bras are basically the same as training bras but bigger and will accommodate larger cups, again meant for that C-DD range.
Definitely try it upside-down and backwards to check the band length. If it's too tight when you do that, you either need to go up a band size or get a band extender to use until it breaks in.
If the band fits, then it's either a shape mismatch or the cup being too small. Make sure to scoop and swoop and check for spillage. If there's spillage, then go up a cup size. If there's gapping or wrinkling in the cup, but it otherwise fits then it's probably not quite the right shape.
Fitting a bra is more like getting a good pair of shoes than a t-shirt. The better it fits, the more you'll notice the small, finicky issues that you didn't see before because everything was off. There's even a break-in period, lol.
I think a bralette - a thin non-underwire bra - would probably be the best option. You can get them relatively plain or a little bit fancier with lace and stuff.
I don't wear bralettes so I just pulled those off Amazon, but maybe someone else can suggest a specific brand or style that would work best for you. I'd probably try to stay away from anything with really well defined cups.
I'd like to echo the first commenter. I have this bra, and I don't hate it, but you have to have pretty full-on-top breasts to not have (at least a bit of) gapping in the lace.
I get a better fit on top in Cleo Blake which is on sale in your size on Amazon for ... $4. Yes, actually $4. Probably worth trying a that price. Cleo Kali gives a nice rounded shape and...doth my eyes deceive me? It's also on sale for $4 on Amazon. Honestly, I would give both of them a try for that price. I think they'll work better for you and you're not blowing a ton of cash anyway!
I would size up in the thirdlove balcony. You can use a cup that’s just a little taller, and I don’t think it will be too big.
The t-shirt bra looks very closed on top. If you size up I think you’ll still get quadding and also empty space just above your apex. I found this Curvy Kate Starlet on Amazon US with Prime shipping, looks similar to the thirdlove but not quite as closed on top. There’s also Cleo Mimi which has a more open top than the Curvy Kate.
Have you tried any of the Freya padded half cups? I saw Patsy and Mode in your size on Amazon for very reasonable prices with Prime shipping.
I saw plenty of Ciao Bellas too, but I think that style might be too shallow for you and that could be the reason for the wires creaking.
If you're willing to do a little work, Comexim bras might be a great fit for you. Less cup in the armpit, narrower-set straps. Narrow wires, projected. And they can be customized in lots of ways, including asking that the straps be brought closer in the back by 2 or 3 cm. Check out the Polish guide for more information. I say it takes some work to get the fit that's best for you because their sizing system is a little different and different cuts/bra types fit slightly differently. But the guides and reviews should get you going in the right direction.
I'm a 30F and the 3HC cut was recommended to me.
For something less complicated, you could use a bra strap converter to make any bra into a racerback and hold the straps together.
These are seamed but relatively discreet. They are UK sized, so you would want 42F or 42FF.
https://www.amazon.com/Sculptresse-Panache-Non-Padded-High-Impact-9441/dp/B08B7BWGY6
https://www.amazon.com/Elomi-Energise-Underwire-Racerback-Conversion/dp/B07DL7XV6M/
We’re kind of similar sizes and shapes from what I can tell and I always recommend this random bra I found on amazon.
When I started wearing my correct size (28C/30B) I thought the bands felt overly tight but these are super comfy. I found that they’re not the most consistent so i recommend buying a couple and hoping for a good one. I bought 4 and a couple of them didn’t fit quite right but it’s still the only bra I’ve found that I like
The cup size doesn’t matter too much if you’re going to be wearing sports bras or bralettes, but 42C does seem about right. 42B is possible but that’s the smallest.
You might think if your breasts are small you must be an A cup, but that’s not true. Even cis men who have never been on hormones are often B or C cups. The only thing “C” means is there are about 3 inches between underbust and bust. It says hardly anything about the perceived size. 42C has the same volume as 44B and 46A.
You may like a padded bralette. The pads make sure your boobs don’t appear flatter than you want, and the fact that it’s a bralette means you don’t have to worry much about size or shape. For example, these ones in size XL.
OP, if you want the concept of the hook on your other bras...
There are "wider" strap connectors (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E5TWQUI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) that pull the straps in a variable amount. That can change the shape of your cups so your mileage may vary.
Yup, u/Boobraha is correct! Try a Panache Jasmine, this is basically the most projected bra. Even if you ultimately don't want it, it's good information (free shipping and returns on Amazon usually). If it fits, you're very projected, if there's some space, you're not as projected and you have options.
Have you measured yourself with the Beginner's Guide? Along with the shape mismatch, you may also be wearing the wrong size which will only make the problem worse.
There are plenty on eBay for cheaper prices. Just search "Panache Sport 36DD" and sort by lowest price + shipping. Keep in mind that there are unwired versions too.
The sport top is about $40 including shipping on Amazon.
The cheapest here comes to just over £30 with shipping to US.
Google is your friend.
If you think you'd be okay with S/M/L sizing, Champion brand is decent. Target sells them, and I think a few other places too.
For bra-sized ones, this Amazon listing is the cheapest I'm finding quickly. Glamorise is US sizing.
Try a cut and sew from Cleo as a start and see how it fits. I found this one on Amazon for $20. https://www.amazon.com/Cleo-Womens-Della-Balconnet-Floral/dp/B01HZRXSJK/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1537993535&sr=8-17&keywords=28GG%2Bbra&th=1&psc=1
A 46DDD is meant for a bust of approx 129 cms or 50 inches. If you look at your lying and leaning bust you can see that this is too small in the cup. The too large band compensates for the too small cup.
I second what u/hurrrrrmione wrote and recommend trying bras in UK 40J and US 40M.
I mildly disagree on the 42 band though. Most bras in a 42 band will stretch to about 43 inches. That combined with your tight underbust measurement and your bust size makes me think that a 42 band will be a bit too loose. With an extender you might even get away with wearing UK 38JJ, which will widen your available options.
Good bras to try would be Goddess Keira or Kayla (Adelaide Banded, Bridget and Petra should also work) in US 40M, Panache Andorra Fullcup in UK 40J, Elomi Morgan in UK 40J and other full coverage Elomi bras like Mitzi, Raquel and Cate. Curvy Kate is another brand available in this size range, but the quality is not as good. If you want to try it, I would recommend the Curvy Kate Princess Balcony. Curvy Kate is usually cheapest at Brastop.
Goddess Keira in black and 40M is currently on sale at amazon for 35 USD. If you have a low budget, get that.
Sister sizing once can be fine, but I wouldn't recommend it generally unless you're on the borderline between two band sizes and you've got some reason to think the sister size would work better. With your underbust measurements, I think 38 is about exactly right for bras that run true to size.
That said, it looks like this bra is a total shape mismatch. I think what's happening is that the bra is meant for people with taller roots, and looking at the pictures, you might have short roots. I've got short roots, and I found Elomi Charley and Elomi Matilda were my best fits (Charley was a little better). You may still have issues with the wires being a little too wide (they're a little wide on me, and Elomi is known for having wires on the wider side), but it's not too far off, so it doesn't seem to cause problems. On me, the wires curve up in about the right place, they just don't curve up sharply enough.
So I'd recommend trying out an Elomi Charley or Matilda in 38G next.
Edit: if you're in the US, I just checked on Amazon, and the 38G rosegold Charley is $35: https://smile.amazon.com/Elomi-Plus-Size-Charley-Stretch-Underwire/dp/B07N8TM2Z3/?isTryState=0&th=1&psc=1. The rest of the Charleys and Matildas in 38G are $50-$60.
I have implants and measured at UK 28 G/GG by the calculator. I’ve only just started buying bras and so far have found good shape and comfort in Cleo Mimi (28GG but it isn’t perfect, gore doesn’t tack because I’m close set) and Freya Mode (30GG because the wires were too tight on the 28GG, 30GG is equal volume to 28H). It’s tough to find bras with enough immediate projection, and I have pretty close set breasts so I also have issues with the gore. It looks like both of these come in 34H and 36GG!
I highly recommend using Prime Wardrobe if you have Amazon Prime. It lets you order up to 8 items that qualify (not every item does, unfortunately) and try them on for up to a week before paying for anything! And then you only pay for the ones that you decide to keep.
Hopefully this helps! Good luck!
If in future you'd like to post more filtered images I asked the person responsible for the shallow to projected spectrum images and after some discussion with her and other mods we found that you can replicate the effect by using a web photo editing program called pixlr.
Use this filter sequence: find edges > invert > emboss > emboss.
I'm autistic too, with pancreatic issues that make having anything tight around my chest/upper abdomen extremely uncomfortable. My measurements are the same as yours too. I tried a few sister sizes in multiple brands, but still couldn't get a good painless fit. This one has been a life saver! It supports well and has good nip coverage without adding bulk. I get it in a medium. Can wear it all day at work, keep it on while lounging, and sleep in it if I need a little extra support.
Calvin Klein Women's Invisibles Comfort Seamless Adjustable Skinny Strap Bralette Bra https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07795WNHQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_J0YNM5XN95567QMWS5MB
https://www.amazon.com/Gossard-Womens-Superboost-Deep-Bralet/dp/B01C8PG74M?th=1&psc=1
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This bra is very shallow and very plunging, as well as being front-closure
I know of several nonbinary people with medium to large breasts who find this comfortable both physically and otherwise: https://www.amazon.com/Glamorise-Womens-No-Bounce-Full-Support-Sport/dp/B07XD5QSYZ .
Based on your descriptors. I thought of a shaper that might help. Its not necessarily sexy but it will help immensely with cleavage under clothes. Its designed to be worn under drindls!
To add to the other advice consider possibly encouraging her to get a mani/pedi with colors that coordinate with the lingerie and shoes to match. If she's not much of a heel wearer you can search for shoes for ballroom dancing. They can be more comfortable and typically offer more ankle support. Hope it works out for you.
There aren’t too many brands that make sizes in 28C but I’ve found this bra on Amazon that actually fits really well and has smaller sizes. The only hitch is they’re not super consistent, I order 4 and a couple of them fit a bit weird but the ones that do fit are my favorite! ( and only fitting bras lol) I tried TLBC but couldn’t find one that fit very well
Curiosity got the better of me and I tried on an Athleta Embrace in store the other day. My US size is same as yours and my shape is pretty much exactly yours, too. I tried on a Medium-DD and it was pretty much perfect. I wouldn't do jumping jacks in it, but as an every day bra it would be totally fine.
Next time I stop in I might also try the Small-DD. The medium is like 34-36. On me it was comfortable but I would have liked it a little bit firmer. I worry the size down might be tight.
I have also had success with this Bali bra in Medium. It mashes the boobs together and doesn't do much for my shape, but it's decent enough to be seen in public with. I wear it on the tightest hook.
I use the silicone nippies. Not meant to be disposable, they don’t move (I use the non-adhesive kind) and you can clean them. There are various sizes and colors. I’m a 38H and they work well for me.
This specifically is the bra I like
BRAVADO! DESIGNS Women’s Original Maternity & Nursing Bra in Cotton Modal | B, C, D, DD/E, DDD/F, G Cup https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075RFH9GN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_BVQY59TTDGGGJ3BHDBC6?psc=1
It looks to me like fantasie smoothing seamless balcony. At the very least it should be similar. If you take its measurements and compare to bratabase data that might also confirm. https://www.amazon.com/Fantasie-Womens-Smoothing-Seamless-Balcony/dp/B00UTGOD62
There are "wider" strap connectors (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E5TWQUI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) that pull the straps in a variable amount. That can change the shape of your cups so your mileage may vary.
There are "wider" strap connectors (https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E5TWQUI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) that pull the straps in a variable amount. That can change the shape of your cups so your mileage may vary.
I feel like I've been recommending these a lot lately but my Freya padded half cup bra has almost identical wires to the Clara and should give you more of the shape that you want because it's more structured due to the light lining. I'd try one in both 34DD and 34E if you can. Since you want more of a cakes on a plate look one cupsize too small might be more of what you're looking for even if it is slightly less comfortable. Something like this:
The Moving Comfort Fiona bra is one that has a good reputation for man boobs. https://www.amazon.com/Moving-Comfort-Womens-Fiona-Bra/dp/B001AP1QWK
Looked though your post history a bit. If you need a 36F you could look into Elomi as an alternative to the Panache Envy.
I found the Elomi Morgan in 36F and the colour blaze for a really good price on amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Elomi-Womens-Morgan-Underwire-Stretch/dp/B01EHZ8AIW/
I cannot guarantee it is going to fit, but for this price with free shipping and free returns I would go for it.
I know the pricing can be alarming when you first start searching. I'd really recommend doing some hunting on Amazon, where you can get bras really deeply discounted if you look around. For example, this one is on sale for $25 which is a pretty good deal! I couldn't say this bra would be a great match for you shape-wise, but I'm just sharing it as an example of the kind of deals you can find. I'm a social worker so I'm super thrifty myself :)
I was offered a gift a few years ago and I chose the Freya Fever Sweetheart bikini top in 30G but it looks like that amazon link no longer offers that size, which is just such bullshit because I really recommend it highly. For a time, I wore it paired with a very modest skirt bottom, but now that I've gained weight (and am no longer a 30 band but still comfortable enough in it for a day at the beach or waterpark) I wear it underneath a modest one piece with a skirt overlay. If you go for an expensive piece like this in your actual size (in my size at the time I bought it it was like $80) or a bra that fits in a water-cooperative material, a supportive underwire bikini top can be a real gamechanger underneath a one piece. I feel confident in this despite my high weight and I wouldn't have this pleasure if it weren't for the fitted and full cup underwire underneath the suit.
My favorite sports bra is the panache underwired sports bra. You can buy it on Amazon, or on sites like www.barenecessties.com or www.herroom.com. I have also seen them at Nordstoms. I wear 28GG and it supports me really well, is very comfortable and looks nice under shirts. It also has a clip to convert it to racerback. The padding is very minimal and serves for added comfort and support.
Sizing works by brand so you will need to look for your UK size since most companies that make larger cup sizes are UK (Panache, Freya, Curvy Kate). I don't recommend non-bra sized sports bras if you are at all busty.
So Gorsenia She is narrow and deep: https://www.bratabase.com/browse/gorsenia/she-k432/65H/
It has a very tiny bit of lace but it's on Amazon. It's not very expensive and it looks pretty youthful for a neutral fuller bust molded bra.