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Both δ and θ, make a sort of “th” sound in English. Think of θ like a “hard/sharp th” and δ as more of a “softer th” almost resembling a softer “d” sound. Here are some examples of English words that resemble both characters, hopefully after saying them out loud you will be able to hear the difference.

θ: Th-ink Th-eory Th-read

δ: Th-e Th-en Th-at

(Hyphen to emphasize the “th” part of the word. Try saying these words slowly with exaggerated pronunciation and breaking up the words into the two parts as I’ve done above. Try to apply what I said about each pronunciation above the examples if you really can’t hear a difference)

Check this out if you’re still stuck

ὦ ξεῖν', ἀγγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ὅτι τῇδε κείμεθα τοῖς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι

It's a quote by Simonides of Ceos.

Last quote on this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_phrases

It means "i miss you", i think of it more as "you're missing from me" (i'm Ελληνοαμερικανίδα so a native speaker may have a more precise answer)

Wordreference is an awesome source! I prefer it far, far above google translate.

I think it would be helpful if you had a chart showing the difference between the possessive and the accusative. Go to this site and clink on Table 1. But if you are still confused, DM me and I'll explain. :)

Another, older book, with audio, can be downloaded for free here:

https://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/cortina.html#Greek

It uses the old triple accent system, but it's still a pretty user-friendly introduction. And copies of the book can be picked up pretty cheaply if you don't want to use PDFs.

Although this is not exactly what you are looking for, PixWords is a mobile crossword game that supports Greek

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dekovir.pixwords&hl=en_US

I have not used this game, but it does appear to be a word search using and supports Greek. No idea on quality tho.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.havos.wordsearch

It's OK, Jeremy. :)

Actually, it we're going after 100% accuracy, κρασί is wrong. Ιt's οίνος (one root to bind them all), since it's not mixed with water. That's what the ancients did, which helped them drink all day long.

For what it's worth, they are currently asking for feedback with the tree and some of the early weirdness seems to get corrected.

But yeah, grammar is still not a strength of duolingo.

Not really. I mean, I can see why you'd translate it like that, but its meaning is not "time-based" so-to-speak. It comes from the comparative of πολύς (more).

Maybe the op could be more specific, it has many uses in speech.

If you want more traditional grammar-based courses, try:

Cortina Greek (book course with audio)
Learn Greek Online - log in as "guest"

I would recommend you to take a look to the Wordreference Greek-English online dictionary in order to translate loose words or relatively common expressions and set phrases and sentences; I would also mention to check out the Wordreference Greek Forum in order to look up for particular linguistic issues, doubts and questions.

I think you could find there some of the most frequent asked questions regarding the Modern Greek language, but also about Ancient Greek.

Main reason is I couldn't think of other examples. In general, comparison can be done with σαν (as in "like") but they tend to be slightly informal.

Check here for a more complete guide

Amazon link

I got this one a while ago for xmas or something. It's a pretty good reference, I wouldn't use it as casual or engaging learning material. I really do like the examples that come at the bottom of each entry

"Collins Greek Dictionary" by MobiSystems. A bit expensive but most efficient I have found to date. You can evaluate it for a few days.

Highly recommend you pick up the book Fluent Forever, I spun my wheels on grammar for my whole life and finally started making progress with this. Seriously, if this is important to you, it's the best $15 you will ever spend.

tl;dr:

The human mind internalizes the grammar of any new language by receiving comprehensible input. Sure, you can consciously learn the rules of grammar (which is a great starting point), but your internal "language machine" will only spontaneously generate correct output once it has taken enough input to learn the rules. And even then, it will only learn the rules IN A SPECIFIC ORDER WITHOUT SKIPPING ANY STEPS. So you can drill grammar exercises all day, but it will never actually make a difference to your writing/speech until you have progressed through ALL the necessary prerequisite steps.

The approach from the book is simple enough: use your conscious knowledge of grammar to create new sentences, give them to someone to correct as necessary (italki.com or hinative.com), and then use them to make Anki flash cards. Grammar comes down to three basic things: add new words, change the order of the words, or change the form of the word - that last one being the difficult part of Greek for native English speakers. As you continually see correct phrases and sentences and test yourself on those three things, your mind will internalize the grammar rules behind them, in whatever order it needs to.

Something like this? https://www.amazon.com/Norpro-Stainless-Steel-Oil-Can/dp/B000SSUCTS/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?crid=1D3MH5QTLEKOT&keywords=oil+pitcher&qid=1661068973&sprefix=oil+pit%2Caps%2C283&sr=8-5

Incidentally, if your family is Saraskatsani and you’re into cultural studies, this is a very famous ethnography on the honor code among that group https://www.amazon.com/Honour-Family-Patronage-Institutions-Community/dp/0195197569

600 Greek Verbs is really good (Amazon link), but to be honest it’s rare that there’s a verb that I can’t find a conjugation table for on Wiktionary.

I use wordreference, but you could also use glosbe. I like that it gives you lots of examples of how the word is used in the target language. You can also put in a phrase, which often does not work with wordreference https://glosbe.com/en/el

It seems that the sixty Lingq mini-stories have been translated to Greek. The Olly Richards/Teach Yourself stories haven't come out yet but it looks as if Greek might appear in the next wave or two.

there aren't that many fonts to choose from in the first place, but I don't think there are stupid fonts. I'd say choose whatever you like!

And also yeah, the word is spelled επιμονή. :Ρ

I found it in two streaming platforms. You'll have to register with a subscription, but both platforms offer a trial period and if you cancel before the trial ends you won't incur any costs.

• Mubi
• Cinobo (Greek streaming platform, I stumbled upon it while searching for the film, don't know how legit it is but a lot of my Facebook friends have liked their page, if that's anything to go by lol)

It looks like their prices changed. They were $500 a few years ago when I used them. They are now $250 to own. Even your 3 month sub for $75 is massively more expensive than the alternatives. (Free, and imo better).

https://www.thestreet.com/story/12757986/1/rosetta-stones-value-drops-as-free-apps-break-business-model.html

And If you raced through all the content in 3 months, and then cancelled your subscription (and therefore cannot review it), I have some pretty significant doubts about the level of fluency you achieved, and how long you can maintain it.

People can get through the entire duolingo tree in a weekend. Doesn't mean they know the language. https://www.duolingo.com/comment/17463113

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1408866161/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_J7J0DTZQCNCGXTZ39737

Not sure really who the audience is but I know the first book got translated into loads of languages that are either not spoken anymore or has a small amount of speakers. There's Latin version as well 😂

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Chari-Poter-Kai-Philosophiki-Lithos/dp/9602743484/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3FJKR88VKG25X&keywords=ISBN+960-274-348-4&qid=1641076286&sprefix=isbn+960-274-348-4%2Caps%2C58&sr=8-1

I have this Greek Grammar book my children used growing up. I’m not sure if it’s still in print. The author has an entire set of books for adults (beginner through advanced) and for children grades 1-7 that incorporate Greek history, art and common traditions into the lessons. These are the books used in many Greek language schools typically offered at Greek Orthodox Church schools. Their website is www.greek123.com, but you may be able to find the books used on Amazon or eBay by including the author’s last name in your search.

Grammar of Modern Greek https://www.amazon.com/dp/0932416454/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_Y8SJ78WK4BAYQNSHQGTX

Ha, I know what you mean, it can get overwhelming. I really had to force myself not to do too many lessons in one day because I totally could do 5 lessons a day, but it burns me out and it takes me a while to come back to it. Now I only allow myself to do 2 lessons a day. That number might not seem substantial, but when you consider the listening, speaking, looking up vocabulary, and writing out sentences, it can take a lot out of you.

While you're taking a break, try listening to Greek audio books. Don't try to decipher it at first, just listen to the rhythm of the language like music. No pressure. It's nice.

I'm doing that with this book right now: https://librivox.org/paramythi-horis-onoma-by-penelope-delta/

And here's the text if you wanna dig into it: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/42962

You can get the subtitles solo, then you can load up them and your movie file together in your video player (VLC, MPC, whatever, as long as it allows having the movie file and the subtitles separately).

It depends on how you study a language. For me, I like getting into grammar and then build vocabulary. I usually don't follow a plan so it is always a mess. As for kypros, they have useful content, I used to study the notes for lessons, check the vocabulary and compare with the text they give, listen to the podcast and follow the text. Also check https://www.learnwitholiver.com/, and subscribe to their daily email alerts. I found them really helpful. They send you a sentence, and then below they break it into its parts with translations.

Apparently there's an English phrase "pig in a poke" (never heard it myself) which is when you buy something without knowing its true value.

If youre still a beginner, I don't think TV & movies are going to help much since there will be too much you don't understand.

I keep recommending LingQ because I really think it will work wonders. They have the Hellenic American Union podcasts on there, where you can read & listen at the same time with immediate translations when you touch words. This is quite a good series (except for the music...).

Teach yourself Modern Greek by Sofroniou has helped me comprehend the basic grammar and cases so far. I broke down each point and example into anki flashcards. If you can get it cheap second hand I would say it is worth a go.

This one is simple and pleasing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1499510756?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details

The level is about the same as that of the Deltos Greek Easy Readers: https://deltos.gr/en/books/greek-easy-readers/

Ahoy,

Brazilian portuguese/english speaker here. I completely agree with you. When I first try I had the same experience as you. And to help me familiarize with the alphabet I used an app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asmolgam.greek2
Then I was able to begin the duolingo course. But I'll try your suggestion. Thanks btw.

I'm pretty sure Fun Easy Learn allows you to set Portuguese as your native language and teaches you Greek. I use it pretty much every day, but as an American English speaker.

You might like it. Here's the link to the Android app, and it's probably in the App Store too:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funeasylearn.greek

It's simple but I find it very effective.

Once again, that's really helpful, sampazio-san. Thanks!

You're saying the the two vocabularies (of Ancient and Modern Greek) are more similar (less different, perhaps) than the two vocabularies of Middle and Modern English; certainly than of Old and Modern English. And the same for the spellings.

But it is the syntax (especially the endings, inflections) which differ - in the two Greeks.

I take your point about the dialects in Homer. I have read of that. And have a copy of Cunliffe's <em>Lexicon</em>.

I have a suggestion or two! Eleni which is known by a lot of diaspora Greeks (especially older ones) and is about my family growing up during the Nazi occupation and then the civil war in Greece, and the search for who murdered my great grandmother upon smuggling her children to a refugee camp.

There's also a sequel called A Place For Us about the family adjusting to life in the US after living their whole lives in a rural mountain village.

In the 00s, my cousin went back and rebuilt our ancestral home, and wrote about it the experience in North of Ithaka. Both my Yiayia and Pappou figure in this story as well. The house remains and students are brought to it in the summer for tours.

Many people focus on the islands, but there is a lot of beauty and history in the northern mountains.

What you mean you’ve been searching.. and can’t fine one..

There.. took 5 seconds.. https://www.amazon.com/Greek-Testament-Parallel-Modern-Language/dp/0899571301

That’s the New Testament. If you can’t find with English search just type:

κενή διαθήκη / παλαιά διαθήκη

"Get Your Greek On- Basic Greek in Two Weeks" by Peter Schultz

I've found this one to be very helpful... very basic and only about 60 pages long, but that's what I needed! Not sure what country you are in, but here's a link to it on Amazon; it is available on Kindle.

https://www.amazon.com/Get-Your-Greek-Basic-Weeks/dp/0615694950

The Greek Cook Book https://www.amazon.com/dp/0517503395/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_SJEVCbT1K4PV3

This is an old book but is my go to. If it matters to you, I'd shop around because it's more than I remember it costing

The style of book you are looking for is called interlinear.

This site has a few in Greek, https://interlinearbooks.com/greek/

Amazon has a few as well.

Also, there are some apps that will let you load two copies of an ebook, one for each language, and keep them synched as you read.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bilingualbookreader&amp;hl=en_US

From wiki quote

Excellence is an art won by training and habituation: we do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but we rather have these because we have acted rightly; 'these virtues are formed in man by his doing the actions'; we are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit: 'the good of man is a working of the soul in the way of excellence in a complete life... for as it is not one swallow or one fine day that makes a spring, so it is not one day or a short time that makes a man blessed and happy'.Will Durant, The Story of Philosophy (1926), p. 76. The quoted phrases within the quotation are from the Nicomachean Ethics, Book II, 4; Book I, 7.

That books looks amazing! I'm also looking for a nice book to help me learn Greek.

What is your opinion about this book and this one?

The first one looks nice, with the audio cd's and for what I can see, the second one seems intended to be used in a classroom, with the teacher reading out loud some parts of the book.

There's a chapter on kathareouvsa in this book. https://www.amazon.com/Greek-Comprehensive-Language-Routledge-Grammars/dp/041559202X

I have a copy of an earlier edition, will have a look once I get home from work.

EDIT: I've looked now. There's not a chapter on katharevousa, but they mention it several times throughout the book. Lots of page references in the index.

Ya su! My family is Greek and I have the desire to learn the language also. I am 26 and am teaching what I do know to my two children. This was a great place to start for me and for them - they didn't need complex sentences since they are only three and nine months old. Elementary Conversational Greek, Book 1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/0932416756/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_dhyizb2J762W7 To my greatest dismay I have misplaced it and have had to rely on my local public library...which had two Greek language books! One is crap and the other is the "Cortina Method" which I will now order for my own personal copy and use as a secondary resource - this book teaches grammar which will be useful as we start structuring sentences at greater levels of difficulty. Here is the link: Cortina method modern Greek in 20 lessons: Intended for self-study and for use in schools https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0006WLL64/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_dByizb8K0WFT8

Hope this helps! Yassas!

These versions have Greek on one side, English on the other. Unfortunately to get all 3 of the plays you will have to get several of the books, as they are not distributed nicely for you.

https://www.amazon.com/Sophocles-Electra-Oedipus-Tyrannus-Classical/dp/0674995570/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1485144484&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=loeb+classical+library+sophocles

https://www.amazon.com/Sophocles-Antigone-Trachis-Philoctetes-Classical/dp/0674995589/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1485144484&amp;sr=8-2&amp;keywords=loeb+classical+library+sophocles

Do you have a Greek verb book? It has been pretty helpful for me with verbs in unfamiliar forms, moreso than a dictionary. This is the book I have, I'm not sure if it's still in print but it's still available, and it was a godsend when I was in college. I've had it for almost 10 years and it still gets a good bit of use!

Χρησιμοποιώ εδώ και χρόνια το swiftkey. Έχει δυνατότητα swipe και εξαιρετική μηχανή προβλέψεων. Το πολύ δυνατό στοιχείο του είναι οτι μπορείς να υποδείξεις το mail, το facebook ή το blog σου και να μάθει τις λέξεις που χρησιμοποιείς και να τις προτείνει στις προβλέψεις σου.