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Hammocks are incredibly easy to make. Two main types are "sewn channel" or "gathered end" (aka, whipped). Justjeff has a pretty good blog explaining hammock construction, suspension, tarps, underquilts, etc. There are tons of tutorials all over google and youtube.
The simplest hammock you can make is a gathered end hammock and they work great. Just get 11 or 12 feet of ripstop nylon and hem the edges. If you want a no-sew option, use a crinkle taffeta tablecloth on Amazon
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Sleeping with 2 people in an hammock is an awful experience
my and the wife are around 310-320 pounds and we were both in serious pain the day after, taking naps and cuddles is all fine and dandy but sleeping two in it is something I would not wish on my worst enemy
get two hammocks and hang them either right next to each other or bunk bed style ;)
I've ordered from them in the past without an issue but it can take a while to have items shipped. But that same hammock is on Amazon for less money. https://smile.amazon.com/Rusee-Mosquito-Lightweight-Parachute-Backpacking/dp/B01DW5PD0G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474424049&sr=8-1&keywords=mosquito+net+hammock
I am almost the exact size as you, I'm a little taller. I use a Warbonnet Blackbird XLC with the standard suspension. Being as tall as you are 11 foot is a must for a comfortable night's sleep. When camping there would be no room for second person in the Blackbird.
While hanging out in the back yard I have a Vivere hammock hooked to tree and metal clothes line post. My wife and I lay in it every nice day with no problems. Here's a link to Amazon and it includes a stand. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B004YJCP7O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_EmXRzb2P4D9PV
I would discourage you from using 4x4s. Before I got my clothes line post I tried to use a 4x4 and it snapped off at the ground and hit me in the head. It hurt quite a bit and I felt like an asshole.
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In my experience, ENO is way too expensive for what you get. Things may have changed since I had one, but when I got my Eno in 2012 you had to buy the straps separately on top of the already over priced hammock.
I've had a Hobo Hammock for a bit over a year and I love it. I recommend it to everyone I know who's interested in a hammock. It's a solid price, a very good size, and it comes with straps.
I've also heard great things about Bear Butt, but have no personal experience myself. I know they're on sale right now on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0161NDNS0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_7XCBybYBM7YZ9
That's pretty dang hard to beat for the price. I don't particularly like the straps it comes with, but you can get some spares for $10-$15 from various places. I know Dutchware and Hobo Hammock both sell straps separately if you need them.
I also know people who have used Grand Trunk and seem to have good experience with them. From what I've seen, they tend to be a bit smaller.
You will need much more rope than you expect. Consider ordering a 1000' spool of paracord or a softer cord online. It gets old after the first few hundred knots. You will be very disappointed with how uncomfortable it is. Making hammocks this way is by far the easiest and most comfortable.
I have this and love it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JP1CI6I?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I got it when we were staying three to a room. It doesn't take up too much space, assembles in a few minutes, holds my fat butt, works quite well with any of my hammocks, and the price was decent when I got it. Though I think the price has gone up.
I think it could be done - you'll need a single, strong line between the trees that can support your aggregate weight, and a means of attaching each hammock to it.
Off the top of my head, six people at 216# mean weight is 1,296#. I'd double that to be comfortable so you'd want a main line capable of supporting 2,600# at a bare minimum. I'd go with tow ropes, straps, or chain, preferably with a come-along to tighten the line to keep it from sagging so much. Here's one on Amazon for $12 that claims to be rated for 11,000# which should give you a comfortable safety margin. You'd need one for each hammock, plus one for each tree. So - 8 straps for a total of $96. You could then use you hammocks' normal suspension to connect to the ends of each strap.
I'd also balance the people by weight and put the heaviest person in the middle if he far outweighs most of you.
Now... as others have said, you're going to have to have some hefty trees to make this possible - plus, the main line is going to have at thousands of pounds of load, and if it breaks it wouldn't be pretty. The risk of falling pales in comparison to the thought of nylon straps and metal hooks propelled through the air at God only knows how many thousands of pounds of force. Consider this my official warning that this is a Bad Idea™️.
That said... it sounds like fun, and I see no reason it couldn't be done.
Literally any brand will work just fine. Bear butt and about 200 other brands are all made in the same factory. SOURCE: I sold the same hammock as Bear Butt for a while under my own PL Brand.
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I've had the crappiest version the factory makes $7 (my cost) hanging up outside near the pool for over 4 years. Rain, freezing, hurricane force winds. It finally got it's first small tear this week. Sure the blue part has faded some, but any hammock will be just fine. Buy a generic $30 hammock off amazon. Most of them all come from the Goodwin factory in china and there's very little difference between many of the brands.
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This $18 hammock on Amazon is similar to the one I have hanging up outside and is probably from the same factory as Bear Butt (they do get premium stitching and some nicer things added) https://www.amazon.com/ARAER-Mosquito-Capacity-Lightweight-Backpacking/dp/B07FSLZBZZ/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1541493306&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=camping+hammock&psc=1
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So if your worried just hang an $18 hammock outside and save your fancy ones for camping.
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If you are not allergic to it, heavily spray your hammock(outside) with Permethrin. With a single layer it will keep them away. Granted there are a few super mosquitos that will still get you because they are horny for blood. You could also get a self inflating sleeping pad, it adds comfort that you thought you didn't need and definitely keeps the mosquitos from sticking it in your ass.
A stand is your absolute only option? Hanging (strapping, webbing, etc) in trees or mounting into a structure would be more ideal.
Many people like the Eagles Nest Outfitters (ENO) singlenest or doublenest to start out with (silnylon) hammocks. They are cheap.. I got one for $30 as it was a discontinued color, but they seem to average ~$50.
For the other $80 you can definitely find a stand on amazon, but the reviews are for shit. You can try the DIY approach as well if you are handy.. This page might get you inspired there.
Not impossible to come in under your budget.. but then you start talking tarps, under/over quilts, webbing, slings, cordage, carabiners, and all the fun stuff that make up the hobby.
I have the same hammock! Ensure that you have some straps to hang your hammock with. I bought it and didn't have any, fortunately I was able to make some from Instructables using paracord, but I would recommend using a line like a regular climbing rope that doesn't stretch as much as paracord so you don't have to hang your hammock as high/taut.
Additionally, just hang the hammock so the loops around the trees are about eye level and you have about 3-4' of space between the edge of the hammock and the tree.
When choosing a tree, make sure that it's strong enough that it won't bend either, generally about 6-8" diameter at a minimum. And just like @hohead said, do a dry run and test it out before hand.
This is the one I have bookmarked because it can be made with some style depending on wood finishing choices. A nice dark stain with satin clear finish would look good.
It's really not about visible damage. Using small diameter cordage on the tree applies an incredible amount of pressure and will compress the cambium layer under the bark of the tree. This layer is integral to the tree staying alive and being able to grow.
pys XL Hammock Tree Straps, 40 Loops&20ft Long Combined, 2000 LBS Heavy Duty, Lightweight, Easy Setup, Fits All Hammocks (Blue, 20+1) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076MTXFFX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6ZB9QE1XXMQMCTN56YW6
Those are only $10
I've been sleeping in this hammock since 2014: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AXN3HEU
I use a goose down pillow and a thin sleeping bag. I tore my back muscle around the same time and sleeping in my hammock is the only thing that helps it. If you have it hung properly and sleep in it at an angle, then you'll lay almost flat, and well supported.
I use to toss and turn in bed, but now I sleep through the night.
Eagle's Nest are way over priced in my opinion. If you're looking for a hammock purely for lounging around the backyard/parks my go to recommendation is Gold Armour, similar quality to ENO at more than half the cost. They come with a set of tree straps as well.
I prefer Wise Owl if you're looking for something on Amazon that's more affordable than ENO
I ended up getting their bug net and tarp too
You can buy steel tube hammock stands on Amazon for ~$70. They usually come with a decent cloth hammock + carrying case. They come apart easily. IMO it's a better option than building one.
I've been sleeping in a cheap Amazon hammock stand for 3 months now with no complaints.
https://www.amazon.com/Double-Hammock-Saving-Portable-Carrying/dp/B00Y80MYC0/ this is mine. I even use the cloth hammock that came with it. I'm 6'1", 180lbs and don't have any issues.
Amazon has one for $46 that can collapse into a small portable tote, but Ive never used it, so I can't be sure it isn't crap. https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00WFH3TIG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_H.ytzbGE1FSTJ
I've seen a number of people hang using two crossed poles and a tie down, always looks like its about to fall, but it seems to work. This is a commercial version of that if you can get a stake in the ground where you are fishing. https://www.houzz.com/photos/36757477/Madera-Stand-contemporary-hammock-stands-and-accessories
An option is to get BearButt or Wise Owl Hammock for around 35 bucks and a Cheap Bugnet.
There is also a Sportneer Hammock on sale these days on Amazon. It seems to have decent reviews: https://www.amazon.com/Sportneer-Camping-Hammock-Mosquito-Parachute/dp/B072BKTBK1
Frames vs bolts - a lot depends on the room and where you want to hang them. You want them to be VERY secure, as kids aren't know for taking it easy on things. Amazon has these frames for $27.
We have one of these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LOZNXRC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LdoxAbAZPNP9V
It’s survived two kids and I don’t know how many vacations/work trips. Unless I am flying somewhere, my bed comes with me.
The bag that it came with sucks. It’s a little heavy, fine to lug up to a hotel room or out to a park, but I wouldn’t go hiking with it.
I just couldn’t see the point in the turtle stand. It costs more to make than buying the Amazon one, has a big long heavy middle pole, takes up a lot of space. IDK, maybe I’m missing something, but the cheap amazon stand is easy, simple and lasts forever.
Hammock Bliss Bug net hammock. Cheep, I used one for a long time. Maybe Chill Gorilla Tarp, My first was a home depot tarp, but if weight is a factor... There a lot of inexpensive options on Amazon. Get what ever, however, but make sure you use it, try it, tweak it for your needs. I'm sure you'll need a underquilt or a pad to avoid CBS (cold but syndrome). Side note, one of my favorite hammocks, (I have several, yes I am an addict) is a self sewn one. No bug net, so I use it for indoor and winter applications.
This is a cheap tarp, if you hang it along the diagonal. Functional but not the best coverage.
You can also probably sew yourself a bugnet on the cheap but amazon has some options for those as well. Good luck!
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I use these fairy lights, which have a little rechargeable battery attached. They're crazy light, and charge via USB, so I can just recharge them with the little power bank I'm already bringing for my phone. (They could also plug into the USB port on most backpacking solar panels...) They're supposed to last for 24 hours of continuous use; I can say that I've got them on the ridgeline of my camping hammock (which I've also been using at home) and I rarely need to charge them. I cut a couple of twist ties into thirds and used the little pieces to attach the cord to my ridgeline, letting the little battery/switch box hang down to rest in my ridgeline organizer 😀 Only downside is they feel somewhat delicate, so I baby them, but they've been going strong for over a year now so... 🤷🏽♀️
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JP1CI6I?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It holds my fat butt, it's easy to assemble and take apart, comfortable, and keeps me off the floor without needing a ladder. Totally worth it.
The roof rack is fine unless you're 500lbs or something. You could make one of these for the other end.
I've used a t-stake with two guy lines before, but that's really flimsy.
Thx for your support! Indeed we are the original hammock and the original manufacturer...most of our famous competitors are traders that make do their hammock (as you said we are used to manufacture for some of them in our very own factory). Have a look inside here: https://vimeo.com/82033599 And keep on hammocking!
What is it that makes the ridgerunner or blackbird xlc, which start at 130$ and 200$ respectively so much better than a cheaper option that I might be able to buy for 60€ on amazon like the OneTigris Kompound Travel Hammock?
I think it's awesome to make your own stuff and not buy needless shit, but I've had this hammock stand since 2016. It's lived inside and outside, I take it beach camping during dip-net season every year, and it's been going strong. It's only $40.
I've done similar with American 4x4s (3.5 x 3.5 actual inches) and these...
https://www.amazon.com/Auger-Style-Earth-Anchor-48/dp/B00901KQRC
I screwed in the augers about 6 feet (~2 meters) back from the posts, and used steel cable to attach them to the top of the posts. That way the posts end up having much less work to do.
You could probably get by with just the posts, too, but others will weigh in, there.
As others have said, a stand will make a regular hammock feel shorter and give you less hang options. However, as someone who has been sleeping in a hammock full time for the past 8 or 9 years, I picked up one of these off Amazon and it works great as my daily "bed".
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00AXN3628/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The hammock itself is designed for the stand so everything fits well, I've only had to replace the hammock once in that time when I accidentally tore a small hole in it moving some pointy furniture around carelessly. Over time the small hole worsened and needed to be replaced.
tldr; If you get a stand, get a hammock sized for it, otherwise, wall mount.
108 inches is on the short side for the stand. That style, but another 10 inches in length would be better.
The rope style hammock isn't going to be comfortable for sleeping overnight. A gathered end hammock takes a bit of learning, then will be much more comfortable.
Winner Outfitters from Amazon - for $25 I've found the quality comparable to an Eno. Only thing I would recommend is upgrading the straps because the set it comes with aren't the best (definitely do the job though!)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GCKATD4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You're right, and I missed that. I think some nice beefy stakes would be enough to deal with sliding.
But to prevent tipping, it's enough to have a long-enough bottom beam.
I don't know what that is, but it looks a bit awkward and I don't know if I'd trust the metal thing to support the weight.
If you're looking for the part that goes around the trees, I have these and they work great: https://www.amazon.com/Hammock-Straps-Suspension-Accessories-Carabiners/dp/B01AK6PREM/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=hammock+straps+for+trees&qid=1656506338&sprefix=hammock+stra%2Caps%2C79&sr=8-5
You just put it around the tree, run the end with the multiple loops through the loop on the other end and tighten against the tree. Then you clip your carabiner to the loop that gives you that nice 30 degree angle. This would be an easier setup and probably a lighter option. There are so many real suspension configurations that I would stick with a tried and true method before trying to mess with some stuff from a thrift store.
I slept in something like this for most of 2020. I think as long as it’s cotton and a double nest you should be good!
6’5 350, so used the stand for a daily sleeper for many years. I swapped out the hammock for a parachute material one. I use the Grand Trunk Double Hammock
Also converted one of those to a travel hammock.
I'm 5'5" and have that stand. Have had more weight than that in it often enough to say it will work fine.
Yes, it is a good choice for this. It is a good starter stand. You can put other hammocks on it, including longer (11 ft or longer) camping hammocks. Most nylon hammocks on Amazon are awful and too short.
There is a larger portable stand made by La Siesta, but it is a lot more expensive and you would have to buy an appropriate hammock as well. https://www.amazon.com/SIESTA-Nautico-Cool-Grey-Kingsize/dp/B06XMXHX19/
There are several DIY stand options, some more portable or compact than others, but they make more sense when you already know that you want to get deeper into hammock life. If you want to see those, check out the forum at hammockforums.net.
Cons: You might find the stand a bit too short for comfort for nightly use, and the hammock that comes with the stand is a variant of their double that has unusually short clews (Clew - the tied eye and cords thingy that hold the bed of the hammock) and they don't sell replacements. The hammock might seem really tight at first, but it will stretch with use, this is normal for this type of hammock. The hammock needs to be tight enough that your bottom doesn't touch the crossbar. The stand does have some give to it when you sit, but not an alarming amount. It is also heavy.
Pros: It is a sturdy stand and it is easy to put together. Comes in a carrying case.
Hi! I have hung 2 sets of hooks together for a hammock bunk that required me to put one hook on the ceiling and one on the wall about 2 inches from the ceiling. As long as everything is in a stud, you will be okay. So far I haven’t had any issues at all. I used this hammock hanging set which I highly recommend, as I have bought 4 sets so far.
Hope this helps and happy hammocking!
It's a bit more expensive ($380 v $330), but I wonder how it'd compare with the Alpine Hammock that was on Kickstarter a while back.
You can get decent hammocks with tree straps at Amazon for 19 to 35 $ depending on size. There are several brands, that all make a very similar product. These will definitely last a few days, more likely years.
Higher priced hammocks like Ticket to the Moon are a little nicer, have better bags, last longer, and aren’t made in sweat shops.
The cheaper hammocks tend to be a little smaller. But if it’s one person hanging out, it’s fine. I own about a dozen different hammocks of different price points and use my cheap ones regularly without issue.
If you get the cheap ones, you can try and sell them to the participants of the events. Put out an “adopt a hammock” sign or something.
If you buy at Amazon, you can likely just pack them up again and return them.
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I'll probably go with the Eno doublenest, I've heard good things around.
As one of the least handy people around, I'm not really considering DIY stands, but I'm confused about what features I need to look for in one I'm buying. I saw some with what looked like just a plain pole for the end, and others with a U / horseshoe shape at the end. And if a hammock says it's '9 feet'and a stand says it has a 'footprint of 10 feet' are they compatible? (Does that mean it's actually 10 feet or does it extend more in the air?)
Space isn't a huge issue, although it would be nice if it was smaller. Hopefully not more than a hundred...
Anyway, thanks for your help so far!
Edit: I was looking at this stand, would it work with the Eno double nest, and what additional things would I need to actually hang the hammock? (Just the suspension kit you suggested?)
Vivere UHS9 Universal Space-Saving Steel Hammock Stand, 9-Feet, Charcoal https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002URS7ZG/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_uWpZtb16WK7S0HMD
It's about 9'6" which is a little cramped... but works. Product link is below. I kinda just bought it for the "portable" stand. The cotton ~~blanket~~ hammock is not ideal.
Side note, they seem to go on sale often. I got this one for $40 a month ago and I believe they just went on sale for $20 on Jet.com before selling out instantly.
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Bucky Utopia Neck Pillow, The Original U-Shaped Travel Pillow, for Comfort and Convenience in Travel - Cherry Red, 12- x 13- Inch (T220RCH) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BVW184/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6QZ74H4J9MQ18J8566D9
There are other similar ones. Keys are washable cotton cover and zipper so you can let out much of the stuffing. Great neck support for back sleeping. Fold in half to double thickness for side sleeping.
Every night since 2013…
I fill up a 5 gallon bucket with water, toss in my hammock into the bucket, and agitate the heck out of my hammock in the bucket, dump the water out and do it all over again with clean water. I then hang my hammock up to dry.
I have also used a little less than a cap full of sport wash and soaked my hammock too when I had sport wash. https://www.amazon.com/SPORT-WASH-LAUNDRY-DETERGENT-64/dp/B001OPJ5OW/ref=pd_sbs_1/137-6268744-0885741
In case you're wondering, it's this bad boy:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YJCB8M/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_MVR8R98W9S55D8440VQW
I have a backup camping hammock I'm using until my new ones get here.
I’ve been using one from Wise Owl for the past few months, it’s pretty good. Long enough that rain doesn’t end up on you from either end, and a pretty easy setup.
Downside is it’s $50, so there may be cheaper versions out there, but this holds up well. Good luck!
Wise Owl Outfitters Rain Tarp - 11 x 9 ft Lightweight & Waterproof Hammock Tarp w/ Easy Setup - Backpacking, Hiking, and Camping Essentials, Grey https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073GQXMM9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_J7HDZKYSTH1ADQPBEHWN?psc=1
I'm looking to do this exact set up. This is the stand I'd found, but I'd really be interested in knowing what/where Mayan hammock you've got. (I'm six feet tall, and have been told that that the 14 foot would be really good for my height.)
We use a miniature phone tripod with bendy legs that can wrap around branches and such. The legs wrap around the ridgeline, and the circular joint allows the phone to hang in any comfortable position for viewing. Works like a charm, and it's versatile since it's a tripod! ( https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07837W5NX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_KXPCW4DSSC5PZ60TTP42?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 )
We also use those clear plastic zipper bags that come with empty 3oz "travel" size bottles from the supermarket as a ridgeline organizer. Just the zipper bag, not the bottles...we put a small carabiner thru the hole on the zipper pull to hang it.
Protip, we use a prusik knot on the ridgeline as a "stopper". So once you're settled you can adjust the prusik to a comfortable position and tighten it; this keeps everything on the ridgeline behind the prusik, instead of sliding around while you sleep/move around.
I got this hammock off of Amazon for a little over 20 bucks, with straps included. It's pretty comparable to my eno, except the carabiners are steel and quite a bit heavier.
If you are sewing inclined, you could make your own out of polyester instead of nylon, it's much more UV and abrasion resistant. Ripstopbytheroll carries a lot of different fabrics and you can buy a hammock kit that includes the right amount of fabric, all the hardware and the pattern.
I am tall, 6'3", and I too have a problem with "gathered end" hammocks. I sleep in my main (daily as my bad) hammock at an angle, which is proper, but hammocks that gather at the ends don't allow it to change shape at the ends for the head and feet. For reference, this is what I sleep in: (taken from my order history)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AXN3HEU
I do have a nylon hammock in the back of my car for emergencies, but I've never been able to lay in it properly, comfortably. (At least 30° off center) Though it may be shorter than your hammocks, I don't know.
Use what they call a toggle bolt anchor
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[Hammock hang kit]
Use the biggest anchors that will fit. Or you could find a couple studs and anchor to them with a few eye bolts/anchors. This option would be strongest.
I got this as my intro to Camping Hammocks and am well pleased with it. I plan to pass it to my kids on camping trips as I’ll soon upgrade to one of the “Small Batch Artisan Hammock Shops” now that I’ve learned how to get a good hang and tarp setup.
I went the cheap amazon route and bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YJCP7O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've had it for a little over a year and it holds my 6'2" 300lb body very comfortably. Many a summer nap had in the hammock
Thanks for this. I continued to look and it seems like hammocks seem to be either 9' or 11' (with the odd choice being another length). I've seen some people mention they're in the 6'2" to 6'4" range and that an 11' hammock did it for them.
I've checked a couple of websites and only Costco seems to have a nylon hammock for less than 30$.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B088DQ3W9P/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3PM24RPJ67V3R&psc=1
This one seems decent. I'll keep your advice in mind.
I travel a decent amount and I use this stand. It's portable, holds my fat ass, and the price is decent. Plus I sleep pretty well with it.
That's super helpful! I'm a college student so I'm looking for a cheap alternative but I don't wanna make a huge quality sacrifice. I found fabric ones on Amazon that aren't nearly as nice as La Siesta but don't break the bank but idk if they're sketchy or not (i.e https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087BWCPD4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_FwJ7Fb66JEX30?psc=1)
A tiny inflatable sit pad is pretty handy for sitting or fanning a fire or tucking under your feet in a hammock. I use mine as a second pillow too, I gotta have my arm sandwiched. Like this.
If this a rental, you might be in violation of your lease. If it is your property do what you want. Or try this. Amazon.com: Zupapa 550lbs Capacity Portable Hammock Stand, Adjustable Space Saving Steel Hammock Stand, 2 Person w/Storage Bag: Furniture & Decor
This what I am using now. Not too bad.
see also review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56qcozvOvfY but you will still need a tarp for rainy conditions and those will run you about $60-70 like the kelty noah's tarp for instance.
The other amazon link is a great option, but if you aren’t afraid to learn a few knots, try this. If you cut it in half, you’ll still have 2 15 foot straps. I like to get at least 12ft but no more than 15.
I have this stand from Amazon and it's been great for $45. It's made up of 5 tube pieces that break down for storage - mine stays under the bed much of the time. I think it's 9 feet tip-to-tip, so you can still get a pretty good hanging angle.
so amazon is your friend for cheap hammocks. i bought a $15 hammock that is the same EXACT thing as an eno. it worked as is, but the suspension left a lot to be desired. i went with some misc suspension(closed loop, and some cinch buckles and some webbing) and ended up all in for well under $35.
whoa, even better. now they come with the straps that have numerous loops... so you can skip the suspension upgrade for now and still have an adjustable setup.
of course, those looped tree straps are heavy, so in the future, an upgrade wouldnt be a terrible thing.
Could you just drive a post in between the trees so you have a more reasonable distance to span? Either that or just invest in some really long straps and tie them really high up in the trees. 1-inch polyester webbing should be sufficient, 2 inches if you really want it to be extra-strong.
You can get giant sections of poly webbing on Amazon if you want, Dutchware even sells there apparently: https://www.amazon.com/Inch-Polyester-Webbing-25-Feet/dp/B01HQARJ0A
To answer your other question, longer straps won't really affect the stability of the hammock. Maybe if there's a tremendous amount of wind or something, but that causes problems for any hammock. It'll just be a giant pain to take the whole setup down if you want it out of the way.
There's a bunch on amazon like this one: Ivation IV-BHA-STA-9F IVBHASTA9F Steel Stand for Camping Hammock https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KMY0L2U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_UFyGDbDG5HYEW. I bought this one last year. It's fine.
i mean, this dude is looking for a temporary solution for a few months, and you're trying to direct him towards expensive lightweight stuff for camping, when a $15 amazon hammock and straps would work fine. /u/LimitedWard ... if you arent looking for a permanant setup, look at one of these
i have one and its held up to some stupid levels of abuse from drunk friends, sugar high children, and some heavyweights.
as for your anchors etc, i havent got a clue. personally id probably go for a stand since you are in an apartment and probably cant make major modifications required for hanging a hammock.
the stand is going to be the pricey part tho... i got mine on sale for like $50, but i had the option to wait... im sure you are trying to do this asap.
and id personally get the 15' to give the straps some room to absorb the vibrations.
and i get it, i started with saying go cheap and now im saying go expensive... but if you go the wall anchor route, be very careful. hammocks exert a LOT of lateral force. walls werent meant to hold laterally, and if you have plaster walls, with crappy old studs... well... use caution for sure.
Actually, I'm delighted with this Amazon cheapie I picked up last week. MalloMe Hammock Camping Portable Double Tree Hammocks - Outdoor Indoor 2 Person Beach Accessories - Backpacking Travel Equipment Kids Max 1000 lbs Breaking Capacity - Two Carabiners Free https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y5NH1C2/ (Definitely get the double, not the single!) I added a structural ridge line and I've got it set up with a really deep sag. Granted, I'm only 5'7", but I'm finding it super comfy 😀
(I'm a full-time hammock sleeper and my black lab likes to snuggle with me in my hammock. Alas, his claws shredded** my DutchWare Chameleon a couple of months ago, so I'm excited to find a much cheaper and easier-to-replace yet still comfy hammock to use as my at-home go-to. 😀)
** Really, his claw just happened to puncture the fabric in just the wrong way, and then our combined weight ripped the fabric all the way across🥺 I'm just glad I was hanging pretty low, as I landed on concrete 😛
I'm also curious what you're using the cord locks for. If you're having trouble hanging onto shock cord with cord locks, you might think about increasing the diameter of the shock cord if possible.
These are a little pricey at ~$1 per, but they are pretty strong. They have an indent that will hold a single shock cord nice and tight.
I slept on this for quite some time, and I would 100% go back to it as a bed replacement. The only downside is it can get a bit chilly in winter (was fine with a sleeping bag, though I ended up going back to a bed because I love using heated mattress cover). If you adjust the angle you sleep at, you can flatten it until it feels comfortable.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YJCP7O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've been sleeping full time in a hammock for maybe 13 years.
If you're going to get a stand, honestly what I'd recommend is getting a length of nylon instead of a prepared hammock. That way you can customize it to your stand. Obviously a prepared hammock will work as well; just make sure it's not one of those cheap short ones with the rough parachute fabric and the different colored panels on the side. You'll want a standard 11' camping hammock.
You're also going to need a summer weight underquilt for inside, which will run you ~100 USD.
I'd recommend getting a nice inflatable pillow, or one of those synetic camping pillows. The key here is small. Inflatable gives you great adjustability, but most inflatable pillows are annoying long term. What I use is a NEMO Fillo (~50 USD), which is an inflatable with some memory foam that makes it feel like a standard bed pillow. You can dial it in and it feels great.
Speaking practically, you want your TV viewable from inside the "V" that is created by your feet when laying in the hammock. I actually have my computer attached to my TV, and a wireless keyboard and mouse. Guess how I'm writing this right now?
One other upgrade I did recently was to get a 3 tier table and use it as a nightstand. It's something like this. Instead of having my various nesting accouterments strewn on the floor, they're organized on this, which means I have more room for nearby stuff (like water, my clock, Alexa, phone charger, tissues, etc).
Someone else says your applying a lot of lateral force on the railing.
Would you be fine? Probably. Would I trust it? No.
Your counting on all of those anchor points to work flawlessly and to have been installed perfectly. In an apartment / condo building there are a lot of contractors and there is. A chance something wasn't done perfectly. Plus your counting on a railing to behave in a way it is not designed too.
Get a hammoc stand, they take up about the same amount of space as this and its way safer Plus you can get a hammock and stand combo for relatively cheap
Absolute best "affordable" hammock out there. Think I paid $40 for the hammock including the tree straps.
I use this hammock stand in my living room (it was half that price when I purchased mine though) with any of my hammocks, this one being my first.
I made loops of Paracord to help with setup. My only complaint is I wish it was higher off the ground (I'm 250lbs if you're lighter you should be higher).
fleece sleeping bag liner similar to what I use, if you're wanting that style, otherwise a thinner blanket should do fine. I like fleece for this use, as it blocks the connection loss even when compressed. Use this for warm to mild temps... I'm a warm sleeper but was fine in high humidity mid 50F's
Gold Armour is my go to for a cheap hammock. I have a couple of them that I keep in the car for me and friends to use. I never slept in one overnight so I can't attest to how comfortable they are for camping but for lounging around they suit my needs just fine.
Amazon has a ton. We got one that is very sturdy and easy to put together or take down called Vivere, was about $90. Plenty of models that are essentially the same frame and cotton hammock
Vivere Double Cotton Hammock https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IAJCUWY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
https://www.amazon.com/ONCLOUD-Hammock-Russian-Hardwood-Capacity/dp/B085PVDD5N
Think something like that. Now, that's just a 2 second amazon search and picked the top item, I am sure you can find better if you search
This full all in one system from Easthills looks to be one of the better ones sold on Amazon right now.
Watch the video review of the guy from Kentucky who went bike packing. He made some newbie mistakes that you’ll want to avoid.
Easthills Outdoors Skyloft 120" x 56" Ultralight Asymmetrical Single Camping Hammock All-in-One Camping Accessories Gear https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WBZDHS1
If you’re going to use these for long periods of time in temps that are below 65-70°F you’ll want to look into “under insulation”, and that will either come in the form of a sleeping pad between your body and the hammock material or, most commonly, and under quilt which hangs outside underneath the hammock material and snugs up against the shape of your body. Convection can be a fun killer, and will rob any and all heat from your back if you don’t properly insulate.
Lmk if you have any further questions.
Oh, and check out Shug’s YouTube videos for EVERYTHING hammock related.
I think you'll have a tough time beating Ridge Outdoor Gear on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P1NWGL4) for affordability. $49 for 11' long with bug net, tree straps, ridgeline, and bag. I think the ridgeline is just paracord, so not the best, but that can be replaced later if needed.
Don't forget other equipment you will need: Tarp, bugnet, Underquilt/pad, and Topquilt.
Make sure your tarp is long enough to cover the end of your hammock and then some.
Some hammocks come with a bug net some don't, but buy one if it doesn't.
You mention you are looking for year round hammocking. You will need an underquilt/pad if you plan on hanging where the nighttime temps get below 70 or so. Most people find a sleeping pad in a hammock less than idea for comfort, but it works. You'll have to research the temperature range you want to cover. Like winter tent camping, winter hammocking is something you need to prepare for and be confident in your gear.
A Sleeping bag can be used in place of a topquilt, but keep in mind that it will do very little to keep you warm underneath as you compress the insulation.
I sleep full time in this hammock on a Byers of Main Cera stand. I was able to carefully separate the fibers and put in some tie points. Have a nice queen quilt from Target to act as a sort of pea pod. So warm and comfy. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O3YNZME
[I have been sleeping on the vivere hammock and stand bought off amazon for 80 bucks since 2012. Luckily my wife is understanding of how uncomfortable the bed is for me so I still sleep in it, mostly in the summer though.
I have one of these. It holds up to 450 pounds, apparently. I don’t think you can buy just the stand without the hammock, though.
Nothing simpler than just drilling holes in the wall and using an indoor hanging kit like this: https://www.amazon.com/Eagles-Nest-Indoor-Hanging-Silver/dp/B00DVE2AW8/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=eno+hanging+kit&qid=1559307857&s=gateway&sr=8-4
All you need is a few sturdy wall studs 10+ feet apart, a drill, and maybe a stud finder.
Or you could just opt for a standard metal stand that you can find at WalMart or Home Depot or wherever. That should be long enough to get a decent hang, I think.
Also, that one so many people link to, the Vivere 9’ Brazilian with a “space saving stand” actually says the total length is 130”, which is almost 11 feet. So, maybe that is the 11 footer? Here’s the link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004YJCP7O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_UUr0CbVR2GQK5
FITUEYES Universal tv Stand with Mount Two Shelves for 32inch to 65inch Sony/Samsung/LG/Vizio TV Swivel Mount TT207001MB https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BY3JVE2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ipwOCbVQESWHS
Yep pretty awesome, I put my tv on the top part, PS4 goes on that second piece.
Yes, please post the link for the Amazon 12 ft hammock stand. I have a denim cotton hammock and a parachute nylon hammock; I prefer the nylon one because it's more stretchy and conforms to my body better. I'm half your weight, however, so I'm guessing that the heavier someone is, the less stretchable the material they require. Cotton is more durable and retains its form better than nylon, though.
I might buy this one: https://www.amazon.ca/Vivere-BRAZ400-Brazilian-Hammock-Natural/dp/B007J01RIS/ref=sr_1_24?keywords=hammock&qid=1552068923&s=gateway&sr=8-24
I want to get the Eno nomad system
But I'm currently lugging around a 40 pound generic Amazon frame
And I carry a small tent if I need to get out of the rain with that hammock frame. It's not ideal, but it's what I can afford.
If you are concerned about bugs this is a good, light, option: Sea To Summit Nano Mosquito Pyramid Net Shelter with Insect Shield - Double https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BTO43AO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_zDbiCb74CGNEJ
I have one of something like this when going to ground is a possibility .