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Yeah. Just like moving to a new place, having sex doesn't cause your baggage to drop away. Insecurities, fears, and more, still need to be processed.

Good on you for being honest and being yourself. We can only be our best and most confident when being ourselves. Anyone here every hear of a book called Models by Mark Manson? I learned from that that the vulnerability of being yourself and risking rejection is the path to true confidence. You have to be secure and accepting of what you are.

"I'm sorry to hear that, have you read Models by Mark Manson? I was going through some really dark times after getting cucked by Chad and that book really helped me understand that being a cuckold is nothing to be upset about"

You look good enough, so if you can't get a date your game is not good enough. Have you read any pickup stuff? Most of it is not so good, but I really recommend Models by Mark Manson. I'll send it to you on PM.

If you truly believe you're a 2/10, you cannot see yourself objectively, so that's for sure going to hinder you. You might have depression, so I'd suggest going to a doctor and trying some SSRIs. It can really help.

I'll give it a look I guess.

I must admit I'm a bit skeptical when I see: "Don't read shitty PUA books" next to "the book teaches a lot of psychological techniques for closing a sale that apply to the dating world".

Could you expand on differences between your Getting to Yes and shitty PUA books? Because I swear to fucking god lol if I open up this book and see anything that sounds like "ALWAYS BE CLOSING" I'm going to rip it up on the spot lol. (No offense. It's just that the entire bullshit PUA world is based around selling yourself. I had to read your paragraph like three times to make sure I DIDN'T misread it and to make sure I didn't miss some subtle sarcasm or somthing because I thought for sure you were going for something there.)

Hell, I even tried the whole door to door thing when I was young and naive. It was for donations to a charity, but the organization was a bit slimey and sure felt like I was doing door to door sales stuff.

Like. I'm not trying to be all doom and gloom here bud, seriously. It's just that you're asking me to put value on a product that doesn't seem to have a lot of value, and I'm asking you have tips on just authentically increasing my value instead so I don't have to fake it because I'm not good at that.

>My Twisted World

Love that masterpiece. Have it sitting in my shelf next to my "On the Origins of Species" by Charles Darwin and "The Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith. But I agree with the topic at hand, women don't have the mental capacity to actually be sapiosexuels. You need actual intelligence in which they lack in the first place to seek it out from others.

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Fuck yeah

Game Dev Story.

You manage a company from the ground up and make video games. Simple but complex. Addictive.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.kairosoft.android.gamedev3en

They have a free version too, so try that first if not convinced. Also the developer makes a ton of other manager/ simulation mobile games. Like malls, trains, airports, manga, feudal towns, racing, tennis, etc. Look through their other stuff.

Enjoy.

Video in motion from distance or if you still want to use your selfie camera download a unmirrored selfie app like this one I just found on google. A mirror is NOT accurate.

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/categorize ?? english is not my main language and i didnt took the time to answer in these late comment when i realize u where all just some apes

tho tell me how it should be written am not sure for real

> Most of the renters are obviously hoping to get involved in a sexual relationship with the female tenant (not that this is bad, I wouldn't mind getting laid every night + free/discounted rent)

No, that's sleazy. That doesn't belong in the housing section, it belongs in the personals section. I mean they're pretty much trying to trade housing for sex. Flag that shit as prohibited.

And you realize most people don't want to have to fuck someone to "pay" for their housing, right? Especially not someone who you don't even know, and is probably older and not that attractive. I'm a gay male myself so it probably wouldn't be impossible to find such an arrangement, but I would never go for that.

> but a good number of renters just feel more comfortable living with females

It's not entirely unreasonable for them to request a same-sex roommate in situations where you are sharing a living space. This is legal under federal housing laws in the US. However, if they mention such a preference when this is not the case, that's not legal. Flag it as prohibited if so. See CL's fair housing page for more details.

Not to mention, a quick search of Craigslist in my area shows quite a few posts specifically seeking a male tenant. So it goes both ways.

That would be great if we could regularly meet but I don't think it is necessary. There are several definition for community. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/community https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/community

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For privacy: Private Internet Access. Only $40 a year, it's super fucking fast (I forget I even have a vpn it's so fast, there's literally no difference in speed), no logs (so they say, but I trust them. If extra paranoid, just connect to a server outside of the US), all traffic encrypted, etc. you can read more on their website. Totally can't recommend it enough.

For malware: A normal Windows Defender scan should take care of it. But if you need something better, use MalwareBytes. Keep in mind though, malwarebytes is incredibly good for malware, but like anything else, it can't catch everything.

Edit: if you're looking for a good free vpn, there is no such thing. You have to pay for good service. Free vpns log you, they aren't as secure, they're slow as shit (down to 128 Kbps), and are just overall trash.

No, I agree.

I had Linkedin (which was a big joke, even from it's "professional stance"), and when I found that messages I sent someone in response to questions they originally sent to me were never getting responses back (ie. one U of M anthropology student in Cali in particular who was a very reliable old friend and was "Linked" up with never did respond back after I replied to "how I was"), I eventually ditched all of that. It was just the final straw to years of a pointless account. The only thing these things do for me is to see the folks I knew back when who tortured me and served me an uneven hand again and again (versus those others they seemed to bend over backwards for)..and then what's this? Oh, person A is "friends" with person B from a completely different scene I was also in. But hey, it gives me a lot of insight as to what was always afoot with who was in collusion/cahoots with whom.

Just pisses me off and surely validates the mere unsubstantiated inklings I had just twisting in the wind a full decade+ prior.

Guess that's what I get for not being a "joiner".

EDIT: besides, I don't like being marketed or fully monitored for my "tastes". Further more, I DON'T like being experimented on.https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/technology/facebook-tinkers-with-users-emotions-in-news-feed-experiment-stirring-outcry.html?_r=0

Depressive suicidal black metal has several one man loner bands who i wouldnt be surprised were incel. Any xasthur release is pretty solid. Noisey did a documentary on one man black metal bands and he seemed to not interact with anyone at all. https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/xasthur/subliminal_genocide/

> So does xenophobia mean you're literally scared of foreigners?

Yes.

> Would you like to do some research about a word that came from academic institutions with research behind it and scholarly works?

Here's the definition of phobia. Here is the etymology of phobia. The word phobia did not come from academic institutions. What research and scholarly works have been done on the word phobia?

> Do you know how not to condescend to people

> You must be so clever to have dismantled it all on your own.

If you want someone to not be condescending then it helps for you to not be condescending. And you seem to think you have 'dismantled it all on your own' so you too must be 'so clever'. Though a look at your comment history would show otherwise.

I really recommend the two books you got already. I would also recommend reading The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg. It's got a lot of interesting stories and is really good for understanding how habits and habit-breaking works. Those stories are also good for casual conversation.

Can definitely recommend Java as a starter language. It was my first, and is still happily paying my bills (I have no formal training, I've just made things. It's very common to come into programming from a non computer-science background, if you're worrying). It's very widely used, especially for doing the back-ends of websites, and Android apps.

My favourite hands-on recommendation for learning a language as a first-timer is https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java. If you're looking for learning some wider principles, I'd really recommend Martin Fowler's Clean Code (book, but I'm sure you can find it on the net somewhere).

Come check out /r/learnprogramming too - lots of friendly people eager to help newbies.

Shout if you have any more detailed questions too!

It depends on where you look. Some things have changed in our culture, but human nature itself is very much the same as it's always been. For example, one of my fourth favourite books is Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. It was written before 180 AD and the messages and observations from it are just as applicable now as they were 1800 years ago. Relationships still exist and they are still very positive for both partners.

I think your life would improve if you stopped having so much hatred for western women for two reasons. Firstly half of the population would be opened to you. You could get to know them and enjoy their company and meet some of them who you really might like. A lot of them are quite nice.

Secondly, you would also have less hatred in your life. All this hate only hurts yourself. It fills you with negativity and stops you from seeing the good things in the world. The people you hate don't care. You're the only one affected by this.

> This advice does not mean that it's okay to be a shitty person

Good job assuming that just because we are incels we are shitty people.

> It is aimed at people with less confidence, to be comfortable about who they are, what their hobbies are, what their opinion is, and so on.

No. It is shit advice normies give to any guy, regardless of confidence level, trying to do anything related to women.

> You don't have to impress every single woman on planet Earth.

No one said you did.

> if women think you act creepy, look creepy, you need to change.

Of course I need to change. I'm the male. The male gets no consideration whatsoever.

> Apologize sincerely if you fuck up and ask what you can change and work on it.

I'm sorry for being ugly in your presence and having the audacity to think that a being such as myself could ever have a conversation with your god-like self.

> I advise you to read Models by Mark Manson if you are not afraid of having your opinion and outlook on seduction changed.

Because I need to have my opinion changed. It's not like I might be right and you normies should challenge your opinions. No. That would just be ridiculous, wouldn't it? It's not like my opinion is challenged every day due to normies like you being just that, the norm, whereas your opinions are rarely if ever challenged.

Then tell me, what the fuck is this subreddit for? Is it not to get better? Or improve? Do you really just want a safe space to perpetuate self destructive lies and your miserable existence? Or do you want a place where people try and help and to reassure you the world isn't that bad, and help you push to be a better person? The first step towards improving is believing you can improve, no matter how hard it is, and trust me, it's hard, but it's worth it. Your reality might be bleak now, and it might be depressing but you have understand it doesn't have to be that way.

I highly suggest Models by Mark Manson. If you accept what he says in that book, put it to action, learn from your failures, and take responsibility for yourself, your life will get better. I promise. You don't need to be a fashion model or the most attractive looking dude, but you have to accept that your problems are your fucking fault.

hey guys: https://www.amazon.com/Schiek-Sports-Ultimate-Wrist-Supports/dp/B001183UJ8

I wear these , this will hide you are a wristcel. I'm not one, I feel like they are thin till i do see a wristcel. But wear these and cover them up and they make you look like a power ranger.

Also nice conversation piece with bros and chicks.

hey guys: https://www.amazon.com/Schiek-Sports-Ultimate-Wrist-Supports/dp/B001183UJ8

I wear these , this will hide you are a wristcel. I'm not one, I feel like they are thin till i do see a wristcel. But wear these and cover them up and they make you look like a power ranger.

Also nice conversation piece with bros and chicks.

The first link is basically nonsense. How exactly can they know this? And even if true, they don't know whether the cause was incel or death. A good book on this topic is:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EGWEYTG/

The second link is weak. You can read my thoughts here:

http://www.mikraite.org/Human-Evolution-tp17.html

> The medieval period was degenerate? Can you expand on this?

You just have to read about it. It was sexually and intellectually degenerate. Remember to read primary sources to learn history. Maybe start with Chaucer.

> Plato evil? Can you explain?

Not in a short post, sorry.

> The Old Testament and Islam are great for finding a woman, but the point of my post was coping about celibacy.

Why would you be more interested in coping than in solutions?

> I am glad to find a fellow intellectualcel here anyway. I'll check out Aristophanes.

Start here with "Clouds":

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H9M61H8/

By the way, I am not celibate. I was, but I find solutions to whatever my problems are. And you will probably find more intelligence on /r/IncelDiscussions than you will here.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lifts-Quality-Cushion-Insoles-Taller/dp/B00BY5VS1K/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1490068571&sr=8-6&keywords=heel+lift

not sure what country you're in but you'll be able to find an alternative source in your country using that pic. They're a bit weird to get use to but you do get use to them. I don't use the extra layer that comes with it that way you don't add too much height and no one notices if you take your shoes off. I take out the sole thingy from inside the shoe put the lifts in then put the sole back over it so you can't see it.

Ohhh, I thought you were someone else. Anyways here read this

http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/metaphysics.html

https://www.amazon.com/Last-Superstition-Refutation-New-Atheism/dp/1587314525 (you can find an ebook version online easily)

TL:DR - Objective Good exists and it is God. This is proven and demonstrable through logic and reason.

You exist and you can become a child of this goodness if you so choose. This is fulfillment and meaning as a human being and we exist to enjoy this infinite Truth and Love. We aren't aimless creatures mere byproducts of chance but divinely created beings loved immensely.

i have one bone to pick with this.

Al Kavadlo does not lift (the bald guy in the middle of the collage with a sleeve tats on his right arm).

he does bodyweight exercises to get lean & muscular. he even wrote a book about it: https://www.amazon.com/Street-Workout-Worldwide-Calisthenics-How-Environment-ebook/dp/B01GZDHDJG

the rest of those guys are iron pumpers tho.

edit: da fuq happened to the dude on the bottom right? looks like a bad photoshop lel.

> People in my age group seem to be moving on to focus on their relationships and marriages and no longer on their friendships which for an incel like myself makes me feel left in the dust.

Been there, I remember that sucked.

>Some won't escape the misery and this is what leads them to drastic measures.

Well, I know two families who have suffered suicides. I have to say, after seeing all of the fallout on the people left behind from those suicides, that I really can't support anyone who is depressed committing suicide (if you're terminally ill, that's another story).

Suicide just makes the world a much worse place, in part because it is contagious; it tends to provoke other suicides. The word "degenerate" gets thrown around here a lot. Well, suicide is one of the most degenerate actions you can take. I say that as someone who tried to commit suicide and has been hospitalized a few times in mental hospitals due to serious depression. I've also read, perhaps in that same book, that most survivors of suicide are actually happy they survived when polled.

I've also seen people recover from losses. A couple I'm friends with lost their child to a terrible accident. They almost committed suicide together; but then they realized that's not what their child would have wanted for them. And now she's having fertility problems and will probably never be a mother again, which she is very sad about. I'm sure not a day goes by that she doesn't miss her child. But I've seen her happy. She and her husband are very much involved now in supporting those people who have lost children. Seriously, every time now I see them, I marvel at how they were able to rebuild their lives and how courageous they are. They will never forget the tragedy, of course.

https://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Nutrition-Serious-Chocolate-Pound/dp/B0015R36SK?th=1

Drink after you wake up and before you go to sleep. Eat 3 meals a day, and eat 2x the food you normally eat per meal (if you eat 2 eggs and a strip of bacon, go 4 eggs and 2 strips of bacon).

You could always try investing in a set of food portion containers, OP, that give you an idea of how much of each food group to consume per meal/day. It can be a pain in the ass at first, but eventually it becomes part of your daily routine. Below is an example of some (on mobile, so I apologize for the long link). Just a thought! :)

https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Portion-Containers-Comparable-Included/dp/B011X7G9IA

In fact the movie is really intended as a metaphor of Hollywood's rejection of Tommy Wiseau (born Wieczor in Poland). You should really read this for more perspective on the man AND the movie. It's a very entertaining book.

And Wiseau was actually in his 50s when that movie was filmed. So he was like 25 yrs older than his movie girlfriend.

You created the association that you HAVE to have breast to be a woman. Having small breast doesn't make you any less a woman. Here's a really cool book for you read to find out more: https://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Physiology-Dummies-Maggie-Norris/dp/0470923261

I remember reading this i started reading a chapter it started with sex and i grabbed the book, threw it against the wall and said "shit", it took some seconds to realize what happened and what i did.

The Old Testament is simple in the sense that math and science are simple, meaning not convoluted. If you really want to understand it, I recommend this book:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0096BCVPG/