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No. Many 'mental illnesses' are diagnosed and defined subjectively and the 'chemical imbalance' theory of depression has never been supported with a grain of evidence, and there is even evidence to the contrary (e.g. lowering the serotonin levels of 'non depressed' people does not cause them to become depressed) The number of new mental illnesses increases with each new edition of the DSM that they bring out.
Antinatalists in particular need to be very skeptical of the notion that just because you're not enjoying life, you're mentally ill by definition. That anyone who says that life isn't worth living is incapable of forming a competent judgement about life, because if they were capable of forming a competent judgement, they would have decided unequivocally that life is worth living (and worth starting). Any kind of difficulty that a person might have in adjusting to and coping with the demands of their existence is now defined as a mental illness.
A book worth reading on the corruption and pseudo-science that is rife within psychiatry is Cracked by James Davies:
>I assert that man loves and desires nothing but his own happiness. He therefore loves his life only inasmuch as he esteems it the instrument or subject of his happiness. Hence it is happiness that he always loves, and not life; although he very often attributes to the one the affection he has for the other.
— Giacomo Leopardi, Essays and Dialogues
For reference, this is the book:
The Myth of Human Supremacy https://smile.amazon.com/dp/1609806786/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_hxEUCbYW5NKS0
I found it linked in this video from the front page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihPfB30YT_c
No wonder the world's population increased from 2 billion to 7+ billion in just a century?
" A tremendous change occurred with the industrial revolution: whereas it had taken all of human history until around 1800 for world population to reach one billion, the second billion was achieved in only 130 years (1930), the third billion in 30 years (1960), the fourth billion in 15 years (1974), and the fifth billion in only 13 years (1987). "
I wrote and published a cyberpunk novel that goes against this trope. :P
Sorry for the self-promo but in this case it's actually on topic.
I think writers include pregnancies and babies to artificially make readers care more/get more invested in the stories because the usual way of thinking is: no one cares about other people but baybees are innocent and cute.
To add to this; the worst of life you have not experienced yet. Most people decide to have children at the ages of 20-30, which are known as the best years of one's life. At this age, none of the heart diseases have set in yet. Neither has cancer.
You have likely not lived through the death of family & friends. You have not lived through your own death preparations or those of your loved one. You have not lived through a bitter divorce.
The worst of life is ahead of you, and you bring someone to this world without realising what aging & death really means.
Suicide is 1.5% of all deaths. Meaning that there is a 1.5% chance your child will reject the life you have given them outright, if not silently suffer through the rest.
If your child suffers, by being born ugly, uncharismatic, unsuccessful, sick, etc. You can't help them in any way except by paying for their food and board. You can't help their medical condition or their need for a life partner. I'm watching my bf's parents support him through cancer and they say "we'd do it all for you if we could" but they can't.
You can't ask your unborn child, but you can look up statistics for those things you don't know. Is a death of heart disease what you want for your child? A death of cancer? How many adults are incels? How many are addicts? How many are happy when they die? Have you ever visited a palliative care ward? How many parents get visits from their children? How many have anyone to talk to? How many die with no money in their account? How many did everything they wanted to?
I feel sorry for all 7,448,667,000 people on this terrible planet of pain and suffering.
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
Free will is an illusion. All thoughts and actions originate in our subconscious mind, which is determined by our genes and our environment. As much as I want to hate my parents, I know they could not have done otherwise.
I'd recommend 'Nausea' by Jean-Paul Sartre, it's mainly of the 'existential' variety but I'm sure a lot of its points may strike a chord with a few people here.
'I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream', albeit a short-story, is also a good read (I would also recommend you watch/play the point-and-click adventure game as well). I feel the deeper implications may be overlooked in many ways (by myself included), with much of the perception about the story being purely about the sufferings of the 5 individuals (pro tip: the namesake doesn't just apply to who you think it does).
Other than that, I would recommend 'Man's Search for Meaning' by Victor E. Frankl. It clearly isn't an 'Antinataist' book, but it's good not to have a gross confirmation bias.
'Letters to a Young Contrarian' by Christopher Hitchens is also a good book (bit of a hard read, if you're dim like myself), with a lot of interesting points for those who find themselves being inclined to the ideas perceived as 'radical' and marginalized by our society.
Yes, great find! I love this!! I agree with the comments in the original thread... this would make for an amazing animation. In the past few years some good stuff has popped up in regards to books and papers that question the philosophical and ethical implications of (anti)natalism. But I think SO MUCH could -- and should -- be done with digital art. What the antinatalism movement is missing is an emotional appeal. IMHO the antinatalist arguments can come across as too, well, argumentative. People who aren't familiar with the topic often get dismissive or defensive. The antinatalist arguments are rational ones, but most people are not, so people end up getting pushed further away.
Anyway, here's a journal paper on the topic hinted at in your link. The title is "Mortality Salience and the Desire for Offspring" https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nicolas_Koranyi/publication/265092855_Mortality_Salience_and_the_Desire_for_Offspring/links/0deec532fefd24b0e8000000.pdf
Wow, you're not kidding.. Lmao. How are you feeling? :)
For a while I thought that one has a moral obligation to respect borders but, then, after discovering moral philosophy and doing some readings on immigration, I learned that, on the contrary, you actually have no moral obligation or duty to respect "borders". I reckon that self-respect alone should compel you to move to a place you feel more welcome, safe and at home...so here's my advice, mate, move the F outta there!
p.s. if you want to read more on the subject, check out: Open Borders: In Defense of Free Movement.
http://jiwoonhwang.org/world-vasectomy-day-17vasectomy/
"Recently, I had an email correspondence with World Vasectomy Day (worldvasectomyday.org), a charity that provides vasectomies in developing countries which was featured in the documentary movie The Vasectomist (https://www.netflix.com/title/80101980). They stated they spend ~$17/vasectomy. Of course, more verification on the number and room for more funding etc., are needed."
that's a good question, I don't think anti-natalism applies to plants per se, however, I personally do not enjoy harming/destroying plants or, for that matter, any living being.
With respect to planting and growing plants, I'm all for it. If I could safely be a fruitarian I would; sadly, it's not healthy to do it full-time.
FYI: plants do communicate with each other (I could recommend some books/docs for you to read/watch, oh, what the hell, I'll just share it now: a great book by Peter Wohlleben, the hidden life of trees: what they feel, how they communicate, discoveries from a secret world) and The Nature of Things documentary: what trees talk about: a revealing look at the lives of trees)
I 'm guessing they mean The Right To Maim which came out late last year. Haven't read it - never even heard of Jasbir Puar until now - but am going to. I found a few other kind-of related works of hers you might find interesting:
Citation and Censorship: The Politics of Talking About the Sexual Politics of Israel
Selectively Breeding Human Beings: Biopower in Israel
I was going to read them myself, so thought I'd share.
As others have said; Dismissing what you have to say based on whether you come of as depressed is not a valid counter-argument. If you want to be a dick to them (don't be though), you can dismiss them by telling them they're being "too optimistic" to be correct, it should make it clear to them how nonsensical it is. Maybe you could pull it of you do it light-hearted enough, but it's perhaps a bit risky?
Another way to point how their critique doesn't hold water (that may come of as slightly less aggressive); Make some reference to Martin Luther King by quoting him. "Judge a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character". This should highlight how shallow and irrelevant their point is to the discussion at hand. It's akin to racism, dismissing someone on completely irrelevant grounds.
Another tip, as someone else pointed out, compile a bunch of statistics and have the sources ready. Statistics don't give a shit about your feelings, optimist or pessimist.
here it is on Amazon (although i hate the site): https://www.amazon.com/lart-guillotiner-procr%C3%A9ateurs-manifeste-anti-nataliste/dp/2916502009
There are currently approximately 7.6 <strong><em>BILLION</em></strong> human beings on this planet. We are projected to reach <strong><em>8 BILLION</em></strong> by 2025, doubling from 4 billion in 1974. That's a 50 year double time. Now the UN is projecting a drop in fertility rates across the globe during the next century, but I have yet to see any good explanations as to how that will happen. If current trends continue, we are on track to double again within the next 100 to 200 years, even with marginally reduced fertility rates. At present production levels with present day farming technologies we are struggling to get food and clean water to the 7.5 billion people we have right now. Imagine just for a moment what will happen if you double the population again. The people at the UN will tell you that it's crazy to talk about 16 billion people, and they will swear by their model which is based on assumptions of reduced fertility rates, but even their own model will waiver when their projections of fertility rates change by as little as 1%. That is why we see such a radical change from the 2010 estimates to the 2017 revision. Projections on diminishing birthrates were based on assumptions regarding effects of education and easy availability of contraceptives, but the effects were different from predicted. It is far more likely that fertility and birthrates will continue to rise, just marginally slower than before, and the odds of birthrates and fertility rates regressing is very unlikely.
The point being there are already to damned many people on the planet, and the best thing that you can do for the environment is to just agree to not create any more people.
I had to look up this word: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ataraxic
It hasn't really given me tranquility, but it has given me more freedom. Since I do not see any purpose for our existence, any higher "meaning", I am free to do with my life as I choose (within reasonable limits). In my case, this has become a focus on minimizing personal suffering and maximizing personal pleasure; hedonism.
I also do spend some of my resources (including time) in antinatalist pursuits, which I find immensely gratifying.
From the video
>It's kind of uplifting to know that if humanity succeeds in venturing to Space, we have plenty of time before the universe turns out the lights
It baffles me how this whole "we must ensure the survival of the human race" mentality is so widespread. Sure I understand why most people are concerned for their own survival, but why would someone feel good about humans in the future delaying extinction when in the future they are already dead meaning survival isn't necessary for them. I mean why does it even concern them?
You try and tell your friends about antinatalism and they bring up the extinction of the human race like it's some big no-no, but nothing real was lost because of the extinction. Potential people weren't born and humans die like they would have.
Additionally if humans do colonise other planets, the population would probably increase to a monstrous size. The daily death count could be in the billions. It's already disturbing enough to see the numbers on this site: http://www.worldometers.info/
>yet decide to supply more raw material for life to devour
I see life as a superfluous trudge, "I exist, I sleep, I exist, I sleep" and yet? I persist. Why? Call it instinct, spite, "hope", something inside me just won't let me lay-down and die (not yet, at least).
I have morals yet I am laughably underwhelming when it comes to espousing and practising those principals, as are more on this subreddit, as are most in life. It's a tragic fact of it all.
>I believe we can skip our programming to an extent
But we are only able to skip it to the point where our programming has the potential to 'skip' certain parts of itself. You never really escape it.
To bring it back to another literary reference, Viktor Frankl mentions in his book "Man's Search for Meaning" that life is not deterministic as people can, despite their horrific circumstances, overcome it all and show a true act of morality and individuality, not tainted by their environment.
This, however, ignores the fact that such notions and 'willpower' are still dictated by prior and current environment, genetics etc.
>What if it was a religious motivation that made them that way, were they still determined.
Yes, it all comes under the umbrella of "environment", culture is as much programming as counter culture, it is one in the same.
>maybe common/basic conformism is also deterministic?
Every behaviour is determined, even Antinatalism and other fringe notions, that is essentially the whole idea of Determinism.
"...you would do better, at least no worse, to obliterate texts than to blacken margins, to fill in the holes of words till all is blank and flat and the whole ghastly business looks like what is, senseless, speechless, issueless misery."
on a more serious note Melatonin might be helpful. Also https://justgetflux.com for your computer to reduce the blue light that keeps the body's circadian cycle awake. exercise also tires the body so by the time you'd want to sleep it's easier to give in.
There was a post here that 3 million or so new babies have been born in Syria since ISIS has come up and the country has gone to shit.
Not sure about the stats from the concentration camps, but from Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning, it did happen (if I remember correctly).
I like it a lot. It's a theory by Solomon, Greenberg and Pyszczynski, based on The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker. The authors of theory wrote a book about it too if you are interested.
https://www.amazon.com/Worm-Core-Role-Death-Life/dp/1400067472
Unironically, this might be helpful for you and help explain why the whole anti-natalist movement is so regarded
https://www.amazon.com/12-Rules-Life-Antidote-Chaos/dp/0345816021
Especially since you seem to be going about trying to create friendships the wrong way - a friendship shouldn't be based on hating something (especially not when that something is the future of humanity itself) but on common interests and goals. Maybe join a sports club or something, do blacksmithing or woodworking (both fun, and both have a good mix of ages of people involved). Be a part of the community - and maybe then you'll also realize that a family is the tightest and most meaningful community you can be a part of - especially when it's your own. There's no one who will care about you (or who you will ever care about) in the same way as your own children.
Probably going to have an even longer comment timeout after this one (last one was half hour lol) so I'll just leave it with - I sincerely hope you find something meaningful to be a part of that can fill the void the lack of a family has left in your life. Maybe one day you'll understand and still have time to bring your own family into the world.
Read Three Generations, No Imbeciles by Paul Lombardo if you get the chance.
That looks really interesting, thank you! For anyone else reading this, if you are looking for a digital copy, it has an alternative title: Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why
Have you read Whose word is it? I read it when I was much younger but I remember being absolutely amazed by how much of an agenda the Bible writers had. Great book (hope it aged well).
For sure. My favorite alternative is coconut based yogurt! Although back in the UK there was a chocolate flavor pudding yogurt thing by Alpro that was soy based and it was AMAZING. Looks expensive to ship to the US, but they have a dark chocolate one and a “milk” chocolate that is so creamy my mouth is watering just thinking about it.
Read Rosemary: The Hidden Kennedy Daughter. Tragic story of JFK's sister. Her father made her undergo a lobotomy at the age of 23. She was an eggplant for the next 50 years.
We had it first. Read Three Generations, No Imbeciles, if you have time. It was about the United States Eugencies programs.
Nature has its own form of Eugenics, according to one of my old college professors. It's just a little slower but it eventually weeds out the undesirable characteristics.
The Potato Famine of 1845 caused millions of Irish to emigrate. London's poor East End had some 300,000 Irish living there during the late 1890's and there was a huge anti-Irish sentiment.
America was little different. There were actually signs in New York bars/restaurants that read "No Dogs or Irish Allowed".
The Magdalene Sisters is very good, but it can be upsetting. Another one which isn't so gut-wrenching, but is still based on a true story is Philomenawith Judi Dench. I love Judi Dench.
Up until recently, Ireland was no place to be if you were young, single and pregnant. The Catholic Church had too much of a chokehold on that country.
Rent The Magdalene Sisters.
My Great, Great Grandfather came to this country when he was 15 years old. He was by himself and only had $12.00 to his name. On the ship's passenger log, it stated his name, country of origin: Ireland and in the comments it said: Illegitimate.
I can't imagine the life his mother had.
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The strongest (by which I mean most likely to connect with the most people) argument for me has to be overpopulation and everything that comes with it: global warming, resource wars, exploitation of the poor and vulnerable, low value of human life, every person born makes life a tiny bit worse for the people who are already here.
That, and just go after the reasons WHY they want to have children/why they had children. If it's just cos they wanna, ok. You can't argue that they don't wanna, even if you might feel like arguing that they shouldn't (but I agree with OP that that argument is unlikely to get any traction). There's a really great book: https://www.amazon.es/Why-Have-Children-Basic-Bioethics/dp/0262016982
Which addresses every reason why people might have children (family line, duty to country, religion, self-fulfilment) and shows how they don't stand up to any ethical standard.
So in conclusion I think the best argument is to attack any weak 'duty' arguments and get them to realise that at the very most they're just having babies because they wanna, despite lots of terrible consequences - the main one being overpopulation and all that comes with it.
I'm a bike riding childfree person who doesn't eat meat, but I'm not gonna bother arguing with somebody who has a bunch of kids, drives SUVs and loves their steaks and burgers as long as their only reason is cos they wanna. It's when they try and convince me it's an ethically good thing that Im gonna argue.
If the government disappeared tomorrow, we'd be enslaved by someone else before long, and would basically recreate a government eventually because the need would still be there.
As for the human race, you're right, the earth will continue just fine without us. There's even a book about this, "The World Without Us," about how nature would reclaim the earth if humans weren't here.
Have him read Three Generations, No Imbeciles.. Its about the Eugenics program in America; the real Eugenics program. We still have a version of it now.
You were just expressing an opinion and one in which you are entitled to. You were not campaigning for all mental defectives to be sterilized.
My half-sister had mental health problems all her life. Her mother (we share a father) died in a mental hospital back when we had them.
Benatar's basic asymmetry explains certain procreative intuitions that many people would find plausible, the matrix he provides reflects those value judgements. The most pressing example of the asymmetry in action would be a case where you knew before conception that your child would suffer horribly. They would be subject to some protracted illness and die as a result, most people would say if you could avoid that life you should and that avoiding those harms would be a good thing.
The flip side of that would be a case where you knew ahead of time your child would have a good life on balance, now say you fail to bring that person into existence, is that something that's bad? I'd guess most people will say no because no one is worse off in anyway that's tangible. In other words the absent pains count for something but the absent pleasure doesn't seem to matter. Still, not everyone shares these same intuitions so you can opt for different evaluations, but each position has consequences.
This paper explains it well, p.5-7 EM dissertation
There are 2 words that caught my attention in your post: obligation and guilt. Because of this I think you would benefit a lot from reading a book called "toxic parents":
https://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Parents-Overcoming-Hurtful-Reclaiming/dp/0553381407
Now to answer you questions:
1- No, you don't have any obligation. I do keep going mostly because I love my wife and I like to take care of her and she takes care of me. But also because after years of therapy I have many good days without depression now.
2- You are not guilty for having depression. A good part of it was acquired from learning non-helpful mental habits from your parents and society. Sure there are also some genetic components, food components and other diseases that contribute to the problem. However, the mental habits and the food components can be changed with therapy, I'm living proof of that.
Oh-wow-its-disappointing to read your comments. Bioavailability isn't the most important factor, not harming sentient, feeling beings is.
All the major dietetics and health organizations in the world agree that vegan and vegetarian diets are just as healthy as omnivorous diets.
It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes.– <em>Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics</em>
Making sure you get your nutrients is as easy as typing them into Cronometer.com for a week. That's it.
4 year old data. And there's been a UN Revision since then in 2017 with another due June this year. We're currently on ~7.7b And it's still growing more or less linearly at +80m/yr and 12-14 years per +1b. The UN is still predicting 10b in around 2055 and no peak this century.
But that all assumes that Business As Usual keeps going. And we don't get a major shock like runaway climate change, major crop failures or we hit some brick wall of resource constraint or pollution overload.
Follow up:
If you want a better understanding of the philosophy,I highly recommend you read David Benatar's book "Better never to have been". Here is a link to his book: https://vk.com/doc151440227_220518152
Depends. End-to-end encryption is a good start, but some VPN providers decrypt when it hits their servers, keep logs to provide to law enforcement and other groups who request them, then re-encrypt. Been a while since I felt any need to use a VPN because no one gives a shit about my boring activity, but I know NordVPN doesn't pull that trick.
Read Three Generations, No Imbeciles by Paul Lombardo, if you have time. It was about the Supreme Court's case on a state's right (Virginia) to sterilize the mentally defective.
> Before H1tl3ŕ showed up and fucked up the whole term making it a racial thing, I was just an effort to provide new-borns with better life conditions (eugenics literally means "Well born").
H1tl3ŕ got the idea from us. ; p Read Three Generations, No Imbeciles by Paul Lombardo. We had the Eugenics program first.
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Read Three Generations, No Imbeciles by Paul Lombardo. It's about the Supreme Court and a state's right to sterilize mental defectives.
Hitler got his Eugenics program from us! ; p
>A. Yet another antinatalist argument that sounds like, if one existed, God's the only one who should be allowed to exist
I don't know how you conclude that. Bacteria exist, and bacteria don't suffer. Plants exist, and plants don't suffer. Lifeforms without a nervous system don't suffer, and they propagate without propagating suffering. Which indicates that it's more moral for some species to propagate than for others. Conifers have existed for 300 million years or so, and they don't suffer, even in the face of wildfires. What kind of "legacy" will humans have left in another 300 million years? In any case, 600 million years from now will be the end of C3 photosynthesis, and 99% of all species will die. In 800 million years, C4 photosynthesis will no longer be possible, and all multicellular life will die.
>B. So I should give up on my dreams unless their ramifications last millions of years or what?
You don't have to, but what will any of your dreams mean in a million years? Stephen Fry said "The worst thing you can ever do in life is set yourself goals." "Two things happen: one is you don't meet your goals so you call yourself a failure. Secondly, you meet your goal and go, 'Well, I'm here, now what? I'm not happy I've got this car, this job, I'm living in this address which I always thought was the place I wanted to be.' Because you're going for something outside yourself, and that's no good."
It’s a longitudinal study that had over 14,000 participants
>China's population is shrinking.
China's population is growing, it's slowing down and is estimated to start shrinking in another decade or two, but the Chinese government also just created a "Two Child" policy so it's less likely it's actually going to shrink in the end.
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-population/
Getting real tired of life's shit. As always. Opened an antinatalism community on matrix.org and argued with a few extremely brain dead natalists in a politics chat. Feeling mildly suicidal but that's nothing new. Sleeping is near impossible because every time I try going to sleep, I just think of shit that natalists say and it makes me wish there was a way to eradicate all natalists. And not necessarily by means of violence.
Read Three Generations, No Imbeciles by Paul Lombardo, if you get the chance.
Read Three Generations, No Imbeciles by Paul Lombardo. We had our own Eugenics program back in the 1920 and it was constitutionally upheld.
Don't think so, though he seems pretty open to and accepting of the philosophy. He answers questions pretty regularly on Curious Cat, so you could ask him if you want.
Someone recently posted something similar here.
I have never thought of it this way, but it would explain a lot of it. If I understand the sort of retributive bloodlust that goes into a lot of "blame" thinking and so on. None of it makes any sense to me, but I can't deny that I have felt the urge.
Subconscious stuff is horrifying to me. Stuff with split-brain patients, and hemispheric neglect in particular:
http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Hemineglect
What is it that makes those of us fully capable of procreating in every other way, save for the understanding that we are harming an innocent, to some degreee - what makes us different?
I don't see how there can be any kind of contraphysical, metaphysically uncaused "free will" involved, such arguments and explanations seem unintelligible to me.
Is the attention mechanism in our brains somehow drawn to what is, in other or normal brains, "subconscious" to some degree? (Not making any kind of claims to hierarchy / superiority/inferiority here - just trying to figure out what is different, what is the mechanism?)
Sorry for poking into the conversation. These are excellent books which fit with antinatalist views of mental disorders. Except disorders that involve delusions and hallucinations, in depression and anxiety many psychiatrists blur the line between normal responses to stress and mental illness:
-Cracked: Why Psychiatry is Doing More Harm Than Good
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cracked-Psychiatry-Doing-More-Harm/dp/1848315562
-Suicide Prohibition: The Shame of Medicine
https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-Prohibition-Medicine-Thomas-Szasz/dp/0815609906
Right now you are just angry, one day when you learn that nothing truly at its core really matters then your healing will begin. Your anger is meaningless, your vengeance is meaningless. Unless you are outside in the cold begging everyday or have a painful disease that keeps you in pain you are really not in that much misery to begin with. But let’s say you are, a good trick I have that makes me feel good is imagining how beautiful the void is and how I cannot wait to return to it.
And if you have truly been in therapy for 15 years and you haven’t really healed I suggest it’s time to stop and seek an alternative option since you are just wasting money. Only stupid people keep doing the same thing over and over and over again in hope of a different outcome.
Here is a book that talks about changing perspectives https://www.amazon.com/Unfu-Yourself-Your-Head-into/dp/0062803832 it helped me a great deal to deal with my anger and suicidal thoughts. I listen to it whenever I am so angry. I watch comedy a lot to laugh about things in everyday life. I sleep a lot more now and it helps me reset my mind so I don’t carry the previous day’s anger and everyday seems like a blank canvas for me to do whatever the fuck I want. I do not give my attention to undeserving things or people like the news.
Good luck on your healing and I wish you all the best!!!
Read these POWERFUL books and slam them in the face of any psychiatrist who participates in the scam:
-Cracked: Why Psychiatry is Doing More Harm Than Good
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cracked-Psychiatry-Doing-More-Harm/dp/1848315562
-Suicide Prohibition: The Shame of Medicine
https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-Prohibition-Medicine-Thomas-Szasz/dp/0815609906
Read these POWERFUL books and slam them in the face of any psychiatrist who prevents freedom of choice:
-Cracked: Why Psychiatry is Doing More Harm Than Good
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cracked-Psychiatry-Doing-More-Harm/dp/1848315562
-Suicide Prohibition: The Shame of Medicine
https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-Prohibition-Medicine-Thomas-Szasz/dp/0815609906
Read The White Plague by Frank Herbert. It's sci-fi but interesting.
>In 1962 during the Cuban missile crisis a soviet nuclear submarine believed it was under attack, the three commanding officers debated whether or not to fire the nuclear missiles the submarine was carrying.
It was as close as we have ever come to blowing ourselves to smithereens.
Read 13 Days In October, if you ever get the chance.
If you have the time read , Three Generations, No Imbeciles. True story about America;s Eugenics program.
My father use to say "Success starts early. Choose your parents wisely". Heh!
Read A Drunkard's Walk if you have time. Randomness plays a bigger part in our lives than you could have previously imagined.
Pretty much. The Prime Directive is evolutionary and not necessarily a conscious choice. There are seven billion people on this planet and they didn't get here because someone said "Oh, even though our offspring don't have a snowball's chance in Hell, let's have them anyway".
If you have time read The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins.
If you get the chance, read Three Generations: No Imbeciles. True story about a controversial Supreme Court case.
At least you're consistent, I can appreciate it. I know that emotions can be stronger than reason, and personally it took me a long time to shake off the fear of hell, but maybe reading more about it will help you finally realize that it may not be true at all. This book, for example, explains that the idea of eternal torment is pretty new, and that there's nothing about hell in the OT.
https://www.amazon.com/Suicide-Prohibition-Medicine-Thomas-Szasz/dp/0815609906
A majority of your clients will just end up lying to you instead and they'll still end their life regardless of forced cruelty; albeit in alienation. It's one of the reasons why I've never gone back to therapy since; nobody will trust someone that threatens them.
If you have time and haven't read it yet, read Rise of the Robots. It's not science fiction. The two biggest threats to your job are: 1. Automation and 2. Offshoring.
> I mentioned that they really shouldn't have had me considering the mental issues that ran in my family.
If you get the chance, read Three Generations: No Imbeciles. True story about a Supreme Court decision which allowed states to sterilize imbeciles. That was the term used in the day.
If you have time, read Three Generations, No Imbeciles. It is about a Supreme Court decision, Buck vs. Bell to allow states to sterilize, to use the term, then in vogue, imbeciles.
nope- book for adults
Yes, Chris from Simpsons, just found about it now
Sorry to hear about your situation I've been there, too, so I know it can seem kinda like being stuck in a vortex that, as it spins faster and faster, can seem impossible to get out of.
I'd recommend reading Dr. Francis Su's essay: Mathematics for Human Flourishing (it was recently commissioned into a full-length book, but the essay gets the point across well enough by itself; but just in case you desire to read more here's the link to the book on Amazon. Su's essay unfailingly brings tears to my eyes every time I read it.
Mathematics is, in and of itself, worth pursuing and, although it most certainly can, it doesn't need to have any practical value whatsoever, it just is so fun to discover mathematical truths, they make everything else in life seem like distant and horrid thoughts best forgot. I really, really don't care about utopias or whatever nonsense people (usually politicians and religious folk) preach about, I didn't ask to be born and my time here is limited so I'm just gonna do the things that make my life bearable, maths is one and another is music. I recommend learning a musical instrument, any instrument will do, but it's wise to go to a music store and try around a few instruments for a couple weeks each before investing yourself fully.
there are many other things but those two (along with philosophy, of course, nearly forgot that) are probably why I'm still here ;)
If you enjoyed the basic premise of the show, but found it unrealistic... The comics will mostly fix that right up for you. Lots of changes were made to the story to make it more safe for television.
It's already out actually: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FRY4M63
The observations regarding the funeral are likewise from my aunt's funeral. The novel is partly autobiographical.
The beginning of the division of labor was actually hunting, before that everyone was a gatherer, with hunting you had hunters and gatherers, men being hunters and women being gatherers, and of course the hunters, the men, had a monopoly on violence, and then you get patriarchy, speciesism, and other forms of hierarchy
This is a really good book that delves into primitivism from a vegan perspective, which is refreshing because unfortunately the primitivism scene tends to be rather speciesist, especially as far as things like hunting goes
I also think that he heard his parents talking about how he was a burden to keep alive or something. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: I'm 99% sure it's this man, but the article doesn't say about the rape or sexual abuse or anything. I'll dig further.
Edit2: I think I found it! I think I read it in the book he wrote about his experience. https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Boy-Miraculous-Misdiagnosed-Trapped/dp/1400205832
Glad to hear it. I'm thinking of recommending this book to the entire sub one of these days,but I'll save it for once I've had extensive experience with this.
Just one more thing though,I'd highly recommend this free and simple android/smartphone app for timing your sessions:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.clay.meditation
You can set the timer from 1 minute to an hour at most,and it produces a non-jarring single gong sound. (so if you happen to want to meditate longer than your designated time,you can do so without having to get up and turn off the alarm)
I initially used a typical timer with a jarring alarm clock sound. Not good for meditation sessions. (because it makes you jumpy and worry about the time,which defeats the point of using the timer) Thankfully,someone recommended to me the above app.
Anyway,have a good one!
I think both volumes of this, compromised of aphoristic essays, is the essential collection of accessible Schopenhauer.
https://www.amazon.com/Schopenhauer-Parerga-Paralipomena-Philosophical-Cambridge/dp/1316616428
There is a much shorter collection called "Studies in Pessimism" that's drawn from the above collections, and there's a good recording of it on youtube -- the first essay is the one I mentioned, "On the sufferings of the world."
Hey, I really relate to your feelings, I messed up my college degree (picked wrong field). But GPA isn't everything. If anything, I personally wouldn't feel comfortable working at a place that values GPA more than actual skills.
You seem to be interested in career in finances. I once was too. I think one should be very careful, since that people in that field love creating beautiful facades to hide the ugliness of the industry behind. I highly suggest reading a book Monkey Business: Swinging Through the Wall Street Jungle, it really opened my eyes.
Hi, nice to see that, I'm reading Anti-Natalism: Rejectionist Philosophy from Buddhism to Benatar this is a great book about the history of antinatalism
Not sure, but if you want to find it, you can download the book they're from for free on Amazon and search for the quote through the Kindle app.
Yes, the Prolegomena is the best place for starting with Kant, though I had to trod through the Critique of Pure Reason for my classes. Kant responds a lot to Hume and Leibniz though, so flipping through a few of the older debates about rationalism and empiricism is helpful (e.g. Hume's denial of causation), as Kant's philosophy addresses the errors/presuppositions of both positions. I also highly recommend Roger Scruton's book, Kant: A Very Short Introduction.
For Schopenhauer, Studies in Pessimism will sum up a lot of the most relevant aspect of his philosophy. Will Durant's section about Schopenhauer in The Story of Philosophy is also an excellent summary too. If you got all that down, you can jump in to the World as Will and Representation, but the "representation" side is pretty much a regurgitation of Kant's idealism, so you can hone in on the "Will" books to see the new stuff that Schopenhauer is asserting.
It is all about the selfish genes.
And only we can rebel against them despite being an herculean task.
-edit- my mistake, it can be ordered off amazon in ebook form.
UK:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071XX2QVJ/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
USA:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071XX2QVJ/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
I'm relatively happy. Life depends on one's outlook.
Here's a great book:
> will try reading the book as everyone says it's great.
> I'm curious, at what age did you read the book and so come to terms with death?
I was 20.
There was no point but the fleeting moment of enjoyment, but so what? Are roller coasters not fun just because they end? On Monday I'll just have more sex, more physical, temporal enjoyment, because why not? No action has value or meaning, negative or positive! Might as well enjoy yourself as best as you can! There's a book I think you should read, called Laughing at Nothing: Humor as a response to nihilism (https://www.amazon.ca/Laughing-Nothing-Humor-Response-Nihilism/dp/0791458407). I don't think being a nihilist and being happy are incongruous. It's like Sisyphus, there is no point in rolling the boulder up the hill day in and out, but you can choose to be happy anyway. Look into absurdism too (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism) because while there is no meaning, no point, you can still choose to make pointless meaning for yourself. Why do you bother waking up every day otherwise? For me, it's to keep feeling awesome things while I can, because why not? There's no point in despair, you'd just be wasting your own opportunity, which doesn't matter, but isn't personally very much fun!
>I wish you could follow reddit pages
Oh haha, now I gets it. You were wishing, but I thought you are already able to follow pages on reddit and you're wishing I could do that too (follow your page), that's why I asked how I should follow your page but didn't understand u said that as a wish. Actually I don't think that's even possible on Reddit. But as I mentioned there's this SlideForReddit Android/IOS app that has this feature that you can enable Notify for certain subs (like YouTube notifications) so you get notified when a post submits to that sub. But I couldn't get it to work and although I put it to notify me but it never does. I guess something's wrong with my push notifications or Rom you try it not for this but many other features although it's not completely free.
There's another feature that I really like about Slide, with my messed up memory, that you can tag people so you see the tag in a blue background in front of theirs post/comments so you understand that's he/she. You're "suidude with idea" in my book :P, and choice of sui is that I can remember that's from this sub. I mean that's not like I wont be able to remember this for always but that I have a pretty messed up memory for first encounter bit after a couple times seeing someone username/first name I will remember it.