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Apparently a problem with the Amazon cloud. I'm not sure what that means, but I think it has something to do with global warming.

The name came from this sketch. One of those things that became an inside family joke. (What do you want for dessert? Kitten Pie, I mean, Pecan Pie)

You're not "getting it". The United States is leading, all the time. "Always be leading!" is what we say.

I'll just assume that's because you continue to be British subjects beholden to the whims of a Monarch, whereas here in America we continue to cast off the 250-year old chains of an inbred-crazed King too short and technically retarded to take the long view. We're rugged individualists. You're gay.

Take Paul Ryan and his hardline views on the importance of family. What you "Europe lovers" see as basic decency and fairness in line with the teachings of Christ we freedom-lovers see as a sign of weak laziness, cracks through which our enemies can slip and assault our faith in Free Market Jesus.

Where you see hypocrisy, we see the nuanced thinking of a political messiah.

ITT Tech is going down hard, too. Fraud charges today from the SEC. Do I detect a trend?

I forgot, I was going to link this (it has a mobile app too). It's amazing. Tons and tons of data, you'll be hard-pressed to enter something that's not in their database. Measures output too. (Like entering my data into this app: -2.5 calories!)

If you want to play around in a more serious way, and you know how to read music, you might want to download the (free) Finale Notepad, or possibly their trial version of songmaker. My nephew was composing on Fruity Loops for awhile. There's a lot of stuff out there.

My wife said I should download your little song and send it back to you with a French horn counterpoint, but I haven't played in quite awhile and it's a work-related writing weekend. Stuff like that is easy to do though.

Well Mixcraft is pretty reasonable, and it does a lot but it's probably better for composition than straight recording-mixing. I'm new at this, and have never used Garage Band.

Marks of Contagion. Find someone who'll let you use their Harvard ID.

I have Amazon Prime. Would this work?

i disagree.

http://www.ted.com/talks/alison_gopnik_what_do_babies_think.html

(oblique. mostly, i wanted to save the link without bookmarking. last few minutes are worth noting cf. religion.)

while i'm linking, i think the discussion i want to have is this one: http://fray.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/5002064.aspx

(not sure with whom i really want to discuss it. the frame is what i find interesting--anything can be subbed in for "homosexuality".)

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He's a New Yorker, as far as I can tell. (link)

But that confusion aside, will you officially welcome Saudi Arabia to the adult table?

I haven’t had an Android device for a while now, but if you want an app that isn’t loaded down with bells and whistles, doesn’t require a monthly subscription, and doesn’t have ads (a pet peeve of mine), then you might try Notepad. As I recall, it’s pretty straightforward, doesn’t get in your way, and offers a nice basic set of features. I’m not sure if your stated use case of dumping text into the same note every day won’t cause problems as your note gets very large, and it probably does have a max file size that you’ll hit eventually, but that will likely be true for every note-taking app.

It varies by state. Somewhere around 1 in 10 Sanders supporters voted Trump. Clinton definitely lost more than 10% of Sanders voters in some states, but again, nationwide the vast majority of Sanders voters went for Clinton.

Unlike white women. Not only did 53% of white women vote for the pussy grabber, the number of white women who don't have college degrees who voted against Clinton is even higher. Almost 60%. It's mind boggling really.

That wasn't what I was referring to as Trumpian (see TQM's response to your petulant sneer about the Khans -- although now that you bring it up, I have no objections to letting all the single Syrian male refugees between 18 and 40 into Canada -- I would enthusiastically support such a policy).

eta: some, rightly believing that the earth belongs to everyone who treats it with respect, have no national aspirations...

Ha. I said "barbeque," and you said "beef." Get it?

I think the fact that you're talking about the relative merits of KeDollarSignHa and Britney sort of proves my point. Giving prizes for acheivements based strictly on the personal tastes of the judges is, well, subjective. Same deal with the Oscars, or Emmys, or the Dundees.

I believe I've pointed out to you before that most of my reading material consists of books with pictures of birds on the cover. I'm guessing that Thomas Transformer, or whatever his name is, failed to include such a picture, and that explains why I didn't read his book. It also explains my confusion over the fact that Richard Crossley didn't win the Nobel.

Well, I am mostly reading some escapest fair: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/girl-who-played-with-fire-stieg-larsson/1100160513?ean=9780307454553&itm=1&usri=the%2bgirl%2bwho%2bplayed%2bwith%2bfire%2bmillennium%2btrilogy

I am also reading through this: http://code.google.com/apis/maps/index.html

I like bird books but I can never find the bird I am looking at in real life and it pisses me off.

My first exposure to Ludwig Wittgenstein - was a demonstration on how clear rules aren't clear. The class example: the threefold repetition rule - "states that a player can claim a draw if the same position occurs three times, or will occur after their next move, with the same player to move. The repeated positions do not need to occur in succession." (from wikipedia)

There was once, though, an argument over the use of the rule. The position had indeed repeated the three times; but for one of the times, one player's rooks had switched spots. Positionally the same; but technically the pieces weren't in the same spots as before, with the Queen's rook being located where the King's rook had been and vice versa.

I believe such a switch is now allowed.

And here is some tidbit on Americans {using time delay over increments](https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/what-is-the-difference-between-delay-increment-and-bronstein-delay).

Interesting differences (USA graph, again, click "10 years"). Your Katrina spike took you from about just under $2 to just under $3. Then the '08 spike took you to over $4. Now you've settled in at low-mid $3. I expected more correlation. I've seen the idea floated, I didn't know somebody tried it. I've often thought if I would feel for my local guy if I choose to abandon him. Also, more and more, we all have loyalty and rewards programs, etc, good incentives to cheat.

That's it. It was right when Salinger died. Early 2010. Melissa had something to say about Catcher if my memory serves. TG's BS detector is strong.

Wayback Machine is fun. While not allowing the posts to be opened and read, there are 34 Fray pages you can scroll through from this one (and more I assume from other dates)...Funny, You can remember a lot just from looking at the titles, the author, and who replied last. (and of course the ratings that LAM never fucked around with, no really, I swear.)

[ETA....I love the tags at the bottom of the page. Geezer Elitism. heh heh. Ahhh memories.]

I read this a couple of months ago. You might enjoy it after you finish. I was surprised to see how your opinions diverged from those of the people who made the show. They hated the James Spader episodes, and thought that Andy was never written properly. My own opinion--I loved Kevin and Creed, and thought the writers did a great job of not over-using them. My favorite episode was the one where Jim tricked Dwight into giving Mussolini's speech. I literally had trouble catching my breath I was laughing so hard.

We're watching Justified, based on some friends' recommendations. We're just finishing season one, but so far, it's good but nothing amazing. Better than most network television, but not anywhere near the same level as Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, The Wire, The Sopranos, etc. More on the level of The Closer or Burn Notice.

Ordered it based on your facebook recommendation. Also fell down a rabbit hole and ended up ordering nearly a hundred bucks worth of books. Try to guess how I got from there to here. Thanks a lot.

Bite, this is called "How to lie with statistics"* .. you can always find a metric that will support any argument. She lost. She should have won. It's on her.

* -- great book, timeless, simple but excellent.

In philosophy, you prefer not to reinvent the wheel, but in economics, it's fine? Henry Hazlitt addresses this specific question in Economics in One Lesson, ch 7, available for free online. He's obviously coming from a particular (classical, Austrian) school of thought, and I don't suggest at all that there aren't rebuttals to his argument, but there are basic principles (opportunity costs) you're failing to account for while working from first principles.

Not a defense of the industry, but perhaps a defense of the open-air, on-site storage of spent fuel rods. (You keep twisting your analogies.). So to stretch this a little further, I'd say spent fuel rods are an indivisible aspect of contemporary fission reactors. Above-ground, on-site storage, not so much.

I understand what you're saying about Bill Clinton, and even agree with you to an extent. In fact, one of the things I'm prone to say to people (esp. parents, spouses etc.) is that I always assume that motivations underlying behavior are positive. In that sense, my own views are consistent with the idea of unskillful action.

Jim Morrison et al? Sure. Couldn't have gotten Man's Search for Meaning without concentration camps either. There's plenty of soul-wracking trauma around to take artistic inspiration from; we can safely dispense with the human-caused kind and still have good art. We can likewise dispense with hazing and still have excellent football.

I appreciate this. It's something that's been floating around in the back of my mind: How much does she need her sense of reality/identity broken down? What purpose would it serve, other than to usher in an existential crisis?

TK's read Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning. Maybe that would work.

Right after I read your reply here, I read this, which seems to illustrate your point somewhat.

Edit: TK thinks Frankl might be too heavy.

Might it be possible to define "bible" as "Book that inspires when rationality fails you?" The book that's inspired me the most has to be "Man's Search for Meaning". It's hard to imagine it contributing to "dogma, schisms, purges and alcoholic face-punchings", but I may not be imaginative enough to make a thorough assessment.

People can, and often do, aspire to rationality, but we are also fundamentally irrational beings. We (collectively) might do well to come up with a philosophy that incorporates that irrationality without completely abandoning the rationality we aspire to.

So, is Analects your nominee then?

Unlikely to be helpful (modelling). You can frame their struggle in sympathetic, face-saving terms and give them a copy of "Man's Search for Meaning", however. Similar move in spirit, little potential costs to the relationship if it doesn't stick (and if you're right, it's unlikely to).

On the other hand, if you can get them interested in and going to something like a meditation center, that holds potential to be very helpful (mindfulness is one flavor of metacognitive targeting that specifically circumvents some of the baggage of personality structure). Again, however, if you're right, they're unlikely to show much interest. (And if they do, I'd maybe rethink your assessment.)

Nice. p.s. you should've known, you're not going to beat the communists at chess.

Probably the book that I have read cover-to-cover most times in my life: Chess Traps, Pitfalls, and Swindles.

You're wrong, I understood the context and stated it generally. No need for insults.

Essentially your post is one long non-response. You're assigning a value of infinity to the importance of winning the war quickly. What if the atom bomb used would have caused a chain reaction that destroyed the world -- some of the greatest scientists of the time understood this to be a possibility (per, e.g. The Pentagon's Brain, first few chapters). Or Truman had decided to flatten all of Japan instead, and 60 million had died.

You can't just give a blanket approval of "anything" because the war had to end "quickly". More people died in Europe than in Asia.

Very difficult I think for liberals to disagree on Trump.

I mean, I think I was wrong when I said that Trump would be no worse than Bush. I now realize that Bush likely had a sense of his own ineptitude, and the absurdity that this bumbling dolt of a nobody would be elevated to the most powerful position in the world. It's a bit funny that the Iraq war fiasco of his creation seems like a fairly small thing right now.

I am reading this amazing book right now, The Pentagon's Brain -- an uncensored history of DARPA, Anerica's top secret research agency, the first chapter, on the detonation of the first hydrogen bomb in 1954, will almost literally make you shit your pants. (mini-spoiler: the top scientists in the land didn't know if they were setting the world on fire -- the military were completely unfazed, they had to have it, or the Russians would have it and blow the world up anyway.)

Yes you're wrong because if you knew anything about the subject you'd know that the MEK has a history of making up and passing along bullshit, and furthermore that they did not "expose" Iran's enrichment program as you initially claimed either.

> the presence of high enriched uranium particles, which was not consistent with the nuclear material declarations made by Iran.

AND now you're going on about the "traces of HEU" issue from 2003 -- and again, if you actually knew WTF you were talking about, you'd know that too was long ago resolved in Iran's favor, again, because it was simply contamination as Iran had said all along.

> But this sounds like

You have no clue what a violation of the NPT consists of legally so really, just STFU and read before opining: https://www.amazon.com/Irans-Nuclear-Program-International-Confrontation/dp/0190635711

Who unpersoned capercaillie?

When is it hot? So, per "fuzzy logic*", we have degrees of truth, not a crisp value for, or definition of, truth. (In other words, I got nothing.)

*funny, this book I have, Fuzzy Thinking: The New Science of Fuzzy Logic: Bart Kosko .. like somebody invented a new science in 1993

You guys would all love this book Chess Traps, Pitfalls, and Swindles, I've literally read it cover-to-cover probably a hundred times since being a teenager.

(Funny, somebody's unloading his for a penny -- "28 Used from CDN$ 0.01 13 New from CDN$ 13.96") -- that better not be my wife, decluttering.)

I understand your unease, and it's one that I share. However, most zoos today are working with conservation authorities on endangered species programs. If you're interested, <em>Wild Life</em> does an excellent job of explaining the transition of zoos from rows of caged animals there merely for exhibition to centers of conservation and research. It also explains some of the remaining problems. I thought the author did a magnificent job, but at the end, there is still tension between concern for the animals and need for zoos.

Reply to your original post:

25 times 25 equals 625 years.

So are you saying that Ontario was colonized by First Peoples in 1390 CE or by the Chinese in 1390 CE?

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25 times 50 equals 1250 years.

So are you saying that Ontario was colonized by First Peoples in 765 CE or by the Chinese in 765 CE?

Round Inuit and Mongolian faces. They're the same people.

As a waitress in Vancouver I once mistook a group of Hawaiians for Haida.

There's a great book that had a very small print run called The Last Great Sea by Vancouver Writer Terry Glavin. It gets into some of the migration that arrived by water rather than the Bering Land Bridge.