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Industrial has over the years become a very big umbrella term for a lot of different artists and styles, many of which sound nothing alike.

Original school was largely UK-based acts, making music from a confrontational and deliberately provocative aesthetic. Post-industrial sounds took some of those ideas and made them a bit more palatable while also integrating the use of new sampling and production technologies. EBM, a style of electronic music descended from Kraftwerkian-electropop and synthpunk but developing in parallel to numerous other forms of electronic music comes into the picture in the mid eighties, and gets folded into the broad range of ideas that industrial was coming to represent. By the early nineties you also had hybrid styles like industrial rock and metal, electro-industrial and eventually as the decade wore on. rhythmic noise and futurepop (just to name a few), all of which were considered (or hotly debated to NOT be) considered industrial.

So the short answer is that the best definition of industrial music is that there is no good hard and fast definition that everyone will agree on, but there is a school of bands that are accepted to be industrial by virtue of history and influence. Arguing about what is or isn't industrial is usually a dead end conversationally, but we can generally agree that there are certain aesthetics, sounds and musical ideas that would mark something as being "industrial".

For a really good look at the history, the evolution and the overall shape of industrial as a form of music, I recommend reading Alex Reed's book Assimilate.

It was a joke back in the late '90s set up by one of the guys in Epsilon Minus. He ran a website with edited photos of Leeb doing silly things.

Eventually went to damnyouleeb.com. Archives are rife with spam and missing links but this is one of the original images still available.

This book is highly recommended if you haven't read it already.

You'd probably have to buy it used. It's on both Amazon.com and discogs.com. It's a pretty good album, it's too bad the rest of Gridlock's albums were not like this.

Ministry: The Lost Gospels According to Al Jourgenson

I like Current 93, DIJ and Blood Axis :) I don't listen to much Neofolk but once in a while it's really nice. I just realized my previous comment may have come across a bit harsh - wasn't intended that way. Maybe I just haven't found the right (modern) german electro/industrial bands yet. Lately I've been mainly looking for industrial music in general or new bands that play oldschool goth/deathrock/postpunk. Shoegaze too. But generally I like to give anything a try! Been finding some nice stuff through industrial radio shows and some posts here and in other subreddits. Sometimes I find new and/or good songs on The Fix, it's mixed genres though, which can be nice since I like most of them. Not too keen on the Noise part unless it's Rhythmic and still somewhat dance-able.

No problem! :) I'm glad you like the project. If you're into black metal, Death Kneel also has a black metal project called Veil and Lamentation. One of their demos replaces guitar with synths; it's pretty cool.

The dude behind DK also has a label called Summer Isle. Some cool artists on there -- German Army, V. Sinclair, etc.

CygnosiC have released a very nice album lately, their vocals are different, more similar to metal-type growling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djozq6ZFN6c

To be fair most of dark electro and TBM puts me to sleep, it's hard to find something different.

I like industrial with good melody and distinct sound. Haujobb, Front Line Assembly, headscan. I also love mid-nineties industrial, Off Beat and Zoth Ommog labels had some great stuff released.

S·Core from Japan. Often overlooked drone, noise, industrial that mostly falls outside the japanoise category.

If you want some African abrasions you could try and check out Extreme Music From Africa released by Whitehouse label Susan Lawly in 1997. Awesome cover artwork by Trevor Brown as well.

The Forest Passage on Heathen Harvest
Official blog page

The Forest Passage on Mixcloud

I know, I know. This isn't exactly industrial, but listen to this. Sounds pretty much like Absolute Body Control, Klinik and… Oh, they are in the same label.

https://www.discogs.com/es/label/161645-Sleepless-Records-Berlin

Enjoy!

I'm going to recommend Orphx (circuit breaking or insurgent inflows). Here is a link to one of their best songs: Predawn Haze.

I also recommend Lowness. It is a nice little side project from Scott Sturgis.

Well since you asked: this is my list of absolute favorites. I tend to enjoy bands with clear sounding lyrics and lots of boing or thrumm in the score. many are German lyrics but not always.

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Assemblage 23 Mind.in.a.box THYX And One VNV nation De/Vision Project Pitchfork Diorama In Strict Confidence Pride and Fall Absurd Minds Rotersand Diary of Dreams Seabound Apoptgma Bezerk Mr. Kitty Coma Alliance Neuroticfish Icon of Coil Solar Fake Colony 5 Mesh Mono INC. Electro Spectre Beborn Beton Future lied to us Monofader :SITD: TR/ST Ashbury Heights Kavinsky Krewella The Glitch Mob Funker Vogt Aesthetic Perfection Gary Numan Frozen Plasma Iris Melotron Decoded Feedback

Big Data Nero Illumise Justice

Other favorites Royksopp Ratatat Goldfrapp Ladytron Girl talk Soulwax Muse Kylie Minogue Freezepop

Most bands i discover are recommended by Apple Music or are found from these cool genre clouds.

http://everynoise.com/engenremap-electroindustrial.html

http://everynoise.com/engenremap-futurepop.html

I’m on mobile so it looks like all my carriage returns were eaten

Easy Listening For The Hard of Hearing. I recall reading somewhere (I think Boyd Rice said) that the more melodic elements of that record were Rice and the noise and chaos were all down to Tovey.

Following some research to find out where this is actually from, cause it's not the version of Antisemitism on WAT, it turns out this is actually (Laibach collaborator) Umek. Track is called Neuropa from Neuro.

They come through here quite often, if they were near in the next few weeks I'd pick you up some stuff pro bono and ship it out.

But they aren't, so oh well.

here is their site, prices are at cost.

here is one on Amazon. They are actually hard to find.

For on-the-go travelling I would get the V-Moda Crossfade wireless. I have the older wired version (M-100), and they are closed-back, good sounding, and the best part is they fold up and come with a plastic shell case with a zipper. So you zip it up and throw it in your bag and go.

https://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-XFBT2-MBLACK-Crossfade-Wireless-Headphones/dp/B06XX2TJSD/

1 - IDM/Braindance or whatever is deemed correct. Anyway, glitched out electronics blended with melancholy and/or brutality. I made a long MIX a while back with 100 tracks by 100 artists. It's possibly not the worst primer for the genre but don't expect beatmatching, I'm not a DJ and have no aspirations of becoming one =).

2 - Minimal Synth is at the top of the list as well. Any sort of four/eight/sixteen track recordings preferrably from the late 70s early 80s. It's a grab-bag genre anyway with lots of crossover into Neue Deutsche Welle, synth-pop and industrial. Massive revival in recent years with a ton of new artists and labels such as Minimal Wave and Mannequin.

3 - Avant-Garde - especially any works from the 50s-70s for magnetic tape and other electronic manipulation. That said I am almost just as likely to get into a box set of atonal choir works.

4 - Lastly I am prone to listen to anything weird that can not easily be labelled industrial or any of the above. So if weird can be a genre then that's it.

In light of this, I'd throw in Author & Punisher: https://vimeo.com/15829164

A bit on the doom metal side, but his entire live rig/compositional machine is built by him.

The man builds his own machines people. You don't get more industrial than that.

What I hate about Spotify is that it's so freaking hard to find other people's playlists. On Deezer, when you look for an artist, you get any playlist that features them, not just the few that Spotify has in the 'information' tab. I have so many playlists, because I can't find playlists of others. You've got a couple that I'm going to give a virtual spin too, so Reddit has to fill Spotify's gap.

Two other suggestions you may like:
Playlists.net. Users have to submit their playlists, but at least you can look by artist
Everynoise.com. Spotify 'under the hood'. Once you've figured out how this website works, you can even find Spotify playlists that you can't find through Spotify itself.

Tracklist
The Crüxshadows - Marilyn My Bitterness
Diary of Dreams - Grau im Licht
Klangstabil - Math & Emotion (The Square Root Of Three)
Covenant - We Want Revolution
Mind.In.A.Box - 8 Bits (Club Edit)
Rotersand - Waiting to Be Born (Rework)
Torul - All (Original Single Mix)
Combichrist - We Rule The World, Motherfuckers
Chrom - Memories
Anne Clark - Our Darkness [Total Eclipse Remix]

Feel free to write any kind of feedback, last issue of Synthetic Entropy: https://www.mixcloud.com/DRave/synthetic-entropy-1/

There's Dark Essence Radio from my homeland which is really good - https://www.mixcloud.com/darkessence/ - though I am good friends with the DJ and appear on there sometimes so that's kinda.. yeah. And then there's The Heart Beats Machine which I don't know where to find their mix cloud but their FB page is https://www.facebook.com/TheHeartBeatsMachine?fref=ts

I like having a big range of music to listen to, so I tend to give everything it's time. I'm starting to enjoy Industrial now anyways, so yeah.

Last.fm is good, but it's pretty bad compared to how it was a few years ago.

>Genres are mostly bullshit anyway.

I can only link this: https://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheScientist/the_importance_of_genres_and_scenes/

If you like Techno / Industrial crossovers this is a great live set. This is French artist Spitzer on French label Infiné

https://www.discogs.com/artist/2846223-Spitzer

I really love this track from them in particular: https://vimeo.com/48289271

rec.music.industrial....those were the days. :D I'm also too old to care, though I would argue about it like it mattered in those days.

I now just say I like electronic music, prefacing it with a 'hardcore' when speaking to someone that has real idea of electronic music. I certainly won't say 'techno' anymore, though. I got tired of people handing me whistles and glowsticks.

I DON'T RAVE, FUCKFACE! Hee hee hee. Them's were the days.

Now my 3 favorites artists are Skinny Puppy, Orbital, and Amon Tobin. Every time someone around me tries to turn me on to something 'new' that they call industrial, it takes me an effort not to laugh...cuz it is usually hardly what I would call industrial, then or now. EBM, maybe.

Always welcome a new album...this one's more on the electronic side, not far from Adult and Ladytron and maybe a little light for a straight industrial sound, but I like it. It's just 99 cents on eMusic, too, so why not own it? https://www.emusic.com/album/224240020/SIGSALY/Arrival

I hear something like Spahn Ranch w/ traditional Chinese instruments. 十丈波 is an excellent album I'm pretty sure not many people own. Obviously, not all in Chinese, so don't get scared away for worrying about not understanding lyrics. https://www.emusic.com/album/2578402//

I think the closest I’ve gotten to that is with Mr Kitty who is amazing. I believe that sub-genre is often called.Grave Wave but for whatever reason Mr. kitty isn’t even on that giant website.

What would you call it?

There’s definitely a split in the camps of industrial. There’s a genre map online which has hundreds of band groupings. The link goes to my favs.

I don’t seem to find Mr. Kitty on this comprehensive site which is weird.

Anyone else have luck?

You can download both albums as an MP3 through Amazon.

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Devils in My Details

Don't get me wrong - the song itself sucks. While I agree with the general sentiment behind it, it's got no subtlety whatsoever. That's consistent with Al's output for the last 20+ years now though. With the exception of the Last Sucker, which I thought had its moments, everything he's written since Barker left has been pretty forgettable, and even that was a step down from when he had Bill Rieflin and Marty Atkins and Chris Connelly in the studio as well. Al was good as the rockstar frontman, but now he's all that's left and the brains behind his many, many bands have all gone on to other things. If you haven't read it, Chris Connelly's autobiography is a really good insight into what Jourgensen's actually like.

whoah that video is incredible. amazing editing for sure. the videos he made back in the day with Lydia Lunch are all included on the Richard Kern video collection. Thirlwell contributed some music variations as well as starred in a couple: https://www.amazon.com/Hardcore-Collection-Lydia-Lunch/dp/B00004TJSH

Which bush? It's on the Psalm 69 record. And any of the live versions from that time (just one fix- Australian tour release is live versions of most of the Psalm record.) Psalm 69: The Way to Succeed & The Way to Suck Eggs Amazon