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> Reddit seems like a great example of a company that happened to strike gold but has no real understanding of what makes it work.
I don't think this is the right way to phrase how Reddit is. To imply that they struck gold would indicate that they've found something valuable. Instead, what they've found is something popular, which in reality already existed as someone else's idea.
The company that found this idea could not figure out how to monetize it, and attempts to do so resulted in alienating the userbase, so they defected to the alternative, which is this. The fact is, the alternative has also failed to monetize it's userbase and has also began to alienate it's users while working on that problem.
So the real question is, what's going to come first: a functional monetization schema that is revenue positive for Reddit, or Reddit V.4, thus leading to another mass-defection and rise of another alternative that will have to start trying to solve this problem yet again.
Reading through their new FAQ...
> What about my data from the old Digg?
We believe that users own their data. We’re working on a system that will extract all user data from the old Digg infrastructure. In August we’re launching an archive website for users of the old Digg to find, browse, and share a history of their submissions, diggs, and comments.
>If you’d like to be notified when your data will be available, just enter your email address here. Then stay tuned, and let us know if you have any questions.
A few other questions in there are like this. Their main goal was to completely redo digg in 6 weeks, which i guess is done for better or worse. However purposely leaving out a good account system, commenting system, system for accessing old stuff, new API, etc at launch screams "half baked product".
Even though in their first blog post they said it would be out on August 1st no matter what, and now that its happened people are pissed. No one wants to see something they use all the time changed drastically with no connection to the past. What if reddit/facebook/twitter/etc went through the same thing that digg just did to their user base?
Betaworks literally just alienated their whole userbase, on top of accepting a massive devaluation of the domain name. Page ranking algorithms don't care if you were big, they care if you are big. I'm amazed that they were able to fuck up as bad as they did.
I guess my point linking to the FAQ is that they released half a project, pissed off all their users, and are going to spend months playing catch up adding features they should've had at release while leaking users and relevance.
You know what's awesome? Digg is actually miles better than the front page of Reddit now. Check it out. Not one meme. A single image. Several interesting articles.
I'm half-expecting the veterans of /r/TrueReddit to migrate to Digg, once it hits 100K subscribers.
This should not be downvoted.
"This has been debunked as a definite fake.I did a bunch of web research when I first came across it a few months back on another site where it was labelled as the "final strip". It's not, the final strip can be seen here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ch951231.jpg This showed up in the comments on this article on Digg before: http://www.digg.com/design/The_25_Greatest_Calvin_Hobbes_Comic_Strips
Here's another copy of the comic, in a square four panel format: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/438/calvinandhobbes0lh.gif
It's not really worth arguing with /u/kleopatra6tilde9, he firmly believes that if some of the subreddit's community upvotes crap then there's nothing you can do to make it less crappy despite the existence of good, fairly large, well-moderated subreddits like /r/askscience, /r/askhistorians, /r/Games, etc.
If you want a good alternative to /r/truereddit that is actually moderated both the new Digg and /r/modded (though I'm pretty much the only active submitter there and I have been taking a break from reddit recently) are both good.
First, in the Location bar of Netscape Navigator, type this in exactly...
Remember, those are Forward slashes and they're not optional.
You should be able to figure the rest out.
Personally, I think they went the wrong way about it. Now, the site forces you to sign up using Facebook Connect. If anything, they did worse than Digg v4.
But according to the FAQ, it's a temporary anti-spam measure
When you haven't gotten enough meta then you need r/triplemetacirclejerk or if you believe that just isn't enough try 4xmetacirclejerk. After that just go to Digg.
I tried to decide if you were joking or not, but I'll assume you were not. (If you were, congratulations on trolling me).
It's very easy to manipulate a link to display one thing and actually link to another. Usually you can spot this by mousing over the link and seeing if it matches in the status bar what you intend it to be. In this case, it will probably not.
For example, I can make link text that says reddit.com but actually have it direct you to digg.com. For example, reddit says reddit, but will direct you to digg (mouse over it and look on your status bar). The bank fraud e-mails do this often. www.mybank.com link in the email actually forwards to a fake website that looks like my bank's website, but submits login information to the bad person.
If you were joking and I ended up not catching it, grats on trolling me, but I figured it was a safer thing to explain this for those that don't get it.
Beat me to it! Ha ha.
For the curious: Pocket lets you save web pages and it syncs across all your devices. It was originally called "Read It Later," which I think describes its function better. I like Evernote, but it's too heavy-duty for quick saving.
I like to use Pocket in tandem with these sites that curate long-form articles:
If I'm reading a great article but can't finish it right then, I can save it to Pocket and read it later. Like maybe I'm reading it on a computer in the office, but I want to save it to Pocket so I can read it at lunch on my phone. Use Pocket all the time. Can't live without it.
Pocket is now built into Firefox. Weirdly, Pocket worked better when it was a separate add-on. You'd think it would work better now that it's integrated with Firefox but it hasn't been the case for me.
When I try to save it keeps making me log in. Or if I'm logged in, it opens my saved list in a new tab--without saving the web page I was trying to save. And it doesn't have the handy drop-down list that shows the articles you've saved. That was my favorite feature of the app.
I use Google Chrome more often now because it lets me save effortlessly and keeps me logged in. But Pocket on Chrome doesn't have the drop-down list either, unless I'm missing something? If anyone knows a setting to get that back, I'd be grateful. For now, I just keep one tab open with Pocket to see my saved list.
looks like he joined December 27 2005
also it looks like his reddit account is shadowbanned
> But wouldn't she be correct?
From a COMPLETELY "brain-dead" bean-counter analysis that ignores the context of those 8.8 million subscribers... yes she would be "correct".
But no business operates in such a simplistic manner.
As an analogy, Walmart doubtless sells LOTS and LOTS of candy bars, gum and cold soda pop near it's cash registers, AND it sells lots of DVD's as well.
But Walmart is NOT strictly or simply in the business of selling candy bars, gum, soda pop & DVD's -- and if they tried to NOT carry any of the rest of the inventory and become JUST a store that sold that limited array of product, they'd go bankrupt in a month.
The thing with that 8.8 million subscribers, and the many more who visit without even logging in or having an account at all (i.e. the compete "lurkers")... is what is it that DRAWS them to Reddit? What keeps them returning?
It's not the mere existence of the /r/pics forum -- sans a steady flow of new content & commentary there would be nothing to see.
The same with things like /r/news, etc -- Oh sure threads probably COULD be created via some "bot" running in the background, posting items from feeds on Reuters, CNN, USAtoday, BBC, etc. But of course those kinds of "auto-feed" news things already exist many (Many, MANY) other places.
What makes Reddit "unique" -- what "adds value" -- is the user base, AND probably among the most prolific posters of new content is the people who also do double duty as "mods" of various forums.
Piss off those people... and then Reddit will be an empty shell.
Much like Digg.com which actually DOES still exist, and it might even be making an OPERATING profit now (i.e. it's annual revenues are probably higher than the costs of running the servers, etc)... but it will probably NEVER repay the investment money that was poured into it (and certainly never provide the kind of ROI that the investors were looking for).
Because current digg isn't the old digg.
It's a thing where you ~~upvote~~ digg stories with a facebook/twitter account, and you can't make comments.
also all of the old digg links might be dead.
Also the closest thing new digg has to subreddit is tags
http://digg.com/tag/technology
You can click expand tags to see all of them.
Here's a tl;dr version of why everything on digg is different now.
- Digg was popular at digg v3
- Digg moved to digg v4.
- Users didn't like the new publisher follow thing, and also because of the fact that power users pretty much gamed digg, no one really liked digg anymore.
- A lot of people moved to reddit
- Digg got bought out by news.me, and became a news thing for twitter and facebook.
[bowing graciously] Thank you, good sir/ma'am; the younglings that are still relatively new to the wilder and woolier areas of the 'Net don't realize that there truly are things out here that are best left unseen and unvisited.
I almost got myself perma-banned from Digg for deliberately posting a deceptive link to Tubgirl; after a few days of profuse apologizing and promising to never do that again I decided to stop trolling and wait patiently for the the that Tubgirl reared her ugly...head...in my general vicinity again. I swore that when that time came again that I would do my best to deflect any requests to link to Tubgirl.
It seems that time has come.
And here, we witness a perfect example of why I never click any hyperlinked text without looking at the mouse-over preview at the bottom of the window.
Ever.
Most of the time (like in comment sections, forums, etc), I even check what appear to be bare web address links, as those can be easily faked. Such as like this: http://www.reddit.com/. My friends and I used to try to get each other to go to lemonparty and the like all the time a few years ago, resorting to masking the links to look like a product on musiciansfriend.com (being jamming buddies and used to be obsessed with musical gear of all sorts, checking everything out and learning all we could about all that was out there) goin "OMFG dude check out this crazyass $10,000 guitar!" and stuff. We had to get pretty creative after a while. But I definitely learned my lesson.
I find myself kind of surprised at the reminder that not everyone is quite so prudent as to actually check what they're clicking on. I guess after as much shit as I've been tricked into seeing, I'm kind of 'trained' now to be scared of the idea of just clicking on whatever. Hahaha.
Step it up, folks. The internets are not to be trusted.
haha, good one! I just peeked at a snapshot of digg from over ten years ago, http://web.archive.org/web/20070214221845/http://www.digg.com/ it brought back memories!
Digg was pretty awesome before the exodus after the v4 calamity. I don't know who the genius was that decided to abandon their format for a "magazine-type" format of sponsored posts, yuck!
Yeah, they took out submissions and became "curators".
But check it out from way back. (LOL, same topics then as now, Apple, Hillary, xBox).
And "What's Digg?" In the top right corner.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070328031250/http://www.digg.com/
Reddit came up with these things called "downvotes" and wouldn't let businesses pay for exposure, at the same time Digg was trying to figure out how to make money. Reddit then became more popular than Digg (for obvious reasons).
The thing about reddit is that it requires a lot of people to vote on the content, making it a lot harder for people to market their things on reddit. Though spammers still try. This in turn creates a cat and mouse game between reddit and marketers. For instance, if you create multiple accounts and vote on your own posts this does nothing for your votes, BUT it will look like it does something for your votes in order to fool people. There are many other factors that come in to play. For every new technique the reddit algorithm is altered to prevent spam. This is a never ending struggle. Though something redditors fear is that these hidden spammers become influential within reddit in order to negate any rules put in place against them, effectively destroying the community from within. This is a real fear and it has happened to similar sites (like Digg, whose algorithm has now been modified to a more profitable one which prefers content from sites that pay. Digg used to have hundreds or thousands of comments on front page stories. Now the average is 10 comments. The website is doing ok and making money, but the change effectively killed their community.)
By and large they're just colour changes. That's something very easy to do for a specific team, their colours are already there and ready to go, and we're already using "reddit" colours. We're reddit hockey, after all.
Hell there's a bunch of /r/hockey jerseys being made that use our colours, how do you think the people buying those would feel if we suddenly changed our pallette?
Also, I'd make the argument, from a design point of view, that both of those subreddits still have flaws. The header on the topleft creates a huge visual imbalance, "/r/bostonbruins" in the banner is a little redundant with "bostonbruins" being right next to it, and the stanley cup background looks cheesy on the Bruins one, and even though the background wordmark on the Jets one is better, the background on the header background is a different shade of blue than the "Fueled By Passion" image on the top left.
The point is, some people might like it, maybe even a majority, but making 95 people say "oh, cool" is not worth the losing the five people that can't stand it.
Change for the sake of change isn't always the best way to go.
Thank you for being honest about your lack of education, your uninformed opinions, and the general ignorance through which you view the world. While I, and many other Redditors will choose to disregard your opinion of us for lack of merit or consequence, I encourage you to find other venues where your thoughts will be accorded the respect they deserve, such as AM radio stations or other online forums.
OK, let me put this in other words seeing as you do not seem to get it: If people want others to change their behaviour then the burden of proof is on them. Recycling needs to be proven. The ones with the "non-expert opinions" are those who are selling their recycling services to the world.
Oh, and about the downmods: please see the side guide because you are doing it wrong. If you do not understand this then perhaps this will be more to your taste.
(it's also embarrassing for you by the way, if it were someone else doing it your posts would be at 2 with mine being at 0. The way it is right now makes you look like a bit of a loser).
And stop with this karma bullshit. It's internet money; it can't be exchanged for anything, and only dicks care about the karma of others. It's here solely for fun.
And you know what? YES. Set your calendars and repost popular links for all we care. Help increase their exposure. Earn all the Karma you want. You want to know why that's okay?
Because this is motherfucking REDDIT. Don't like it? go home ಠ_ಠ
Just because I was curious, here is Digg's thread about it.
> Here is what the front page looked like on the day I joined
This is why it took me a while to take reddit seriously. Here's Digg in the same month. Reddit felt kind of ghetto by comparison, but it did have intelligent conversations. I guess that was good.
Yep. It's totally never happened before where ever increased censorship lead to dramatic decrease in actual content and therefore viewership. Nope, it's just a formal logical fallacy and that's all. Nothing to worry about. It can't possible happen because my forensics coach told me it's a fallacy. There's no such thing as actually slippery slopes. Nope, never.
Your post was removed automatically because of your use of URL shorteners. Reddit bans those. As is, they're unnecessary; you can wrote a link like this where the link is as long as you want it to be.
I've approved the post, and it should be showing up soon.
bloodguard: ^^original ^^conspiracy ^^comment ^^link
If reddit doesn't want to keep digging their grave they need to implement a mechanism for voting mods out.
Or let us subscribe and unsubscribe from mods. That way if you don't like the way a mod is spiking the queue you can uncheck them and their "moderation" goes away as far as what you can see is concerned.
If reddit doesn't want to keep digging their grave they need to implement a mechanism for voting mods out.
Or let us subscribe and unsubscribe from mods. That way if you don't like the way a mod is spiking the queue you can uncheck them and their "moderation" goes away as far as what you can see is concerned.
Well being as you have successfully trolled r/atheism into a giant fit of preteen rage I would like to put my two cents in even though it will be downvoted to Hel.
As an atheist I absolutely despise what r/atheism has become. It was once one of the few places where I could read well thought out opinions of like minded people. Do I agree with NarwhalAnusRape? No.
I would like to believe that any new redditors out there would see through r/atheism and find what really makes this a great community. If they don't, they probably didn't need to be here.
When you start censoring the default subreddits when will it stop? "Well I don't like r/pics because sometimes they show pictures of cats and I am a dog lover". Well I don't know about the rest of reddit but I sure don't want to start excluding all the dog lovers out there so we better get r/pics off the front page.
If you don't want to recommend reddit to your friends because of r/atheism perhaps you should have them check out digg so they don't get their feelings hurt. Or as a good friend would do, let them know to ignore r/atheism by creating an account and unsubbing it.
While you're at it, let them know that if they want people to take their posts about offensiveness seriously not to include the words anal rape in their username.
edit: My grammar is horrible
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<--- and digg is that way, I'm just letting off some steam because with the recent 1.8 update it seems to have changed from Minecraft to Explore-a-Minecraft . . . Everything else is a good add on to the game, but when an abandoned mine takes up almost ~40% of your world . . . well, it gets old and quick.
I'd vote for this too, although to be honest, all we need is more people sifting through /new on the major subreddits.
As a temporary solution, I assume a lot of us have unsubscribed from these (I definitely have), to really sort out the problem. We'd need a day of having everyone re-subscribe (or +shortcut with RES) to subreddits that they're interested in, and vote on the content that they want, as Reddit should be.
From the interest that this post has gathered, it's obvious that this is not the case. A comment that I saw yesterday pointed towards Digg, even though it's pretty much dead in terms of user participation; in my opinion the content is much better than what I would see if I logged out on Reddit.
Who said anything about equality? He's showing that he's an asshole with his bumper stickers, and showing that he's prone to abusing animals with his speech. The first sure as hell isn't any reason to take someone's dog, but the second most certainly is.
If anything, pssvr is getting downvoted because he decided to start a lolbertarian pissing match when it's pretty clear why thetardcore did what he did.
If you don't like the community here, then let me help you find the way out: http://www.digg.com
hey, summerkid, x-zibit has publicly stated he thinks the meme is cool, this is some outdated repost bullshit, and digg is thataway.
The point of Reddit is to share things for everyone's mutual entertainment. When you make it about profit, then it will just become a giant billboard. If that's what you're looking for, check this out.