It's an instant messaging app, but you can also use it on pretty much any other device you own. Also (in the Android app at least) you can search images/gifs on the internet and instantly send them. Makes gif wars so much easier.
From left to right ;P
The blue links are the same. Notice the via @roolsbot part of his and mine message? That means that the message was created using an inline bot (A telegram feature, see here). This specific bot lets you search for these links and also, in a more advanced way, let you insert these links naturally in your messages without you knowing the actual link, you just search for keywords basically. I tried to "show off" using this advanced mechanic to combine the two messages he had to send (because he only used the basic function of the bot) into one, using this advanced technique. And he then told me that he wrote this feature.
Sounds complicated? Dont worry, it is. I hope I could explain it though :)
Q: How are you going to make money out of this?
We believe in fast and secure messaging that is also 100% free.
Pavel Durov, who shares our vision, supplied Telegram with a generous donation, so we have quite enough money for the time being. If Telegram runs out, we will introduce non-essential paid options to support the infrastructure and finance developer salaries. But making profits will never be an end-goal for Telegram.
Don't install freedom.
If you make the slightest mistake uninstalling it it will ruin your phone (lost my LG G3s that way, RIP)
Enable developer options and set "Window animation scale", "Transition animation scale" and "Animator duration scale" to < 1 (mine are at 0.5x)
This will make apps appear faster and opening an app from "recents" is also faster. All the time spent watching animations is simply wasted.
Want to converse with people/groups? Get "Telegram"! That way your personal data isn't being shared with Facebook if you were using WhatsApp. It also has an API for people to create bots and clients for all platforms. Seriously check it out https://telegram.org/
Get an app like Tasker or Automate and really learn how to use it. You can replace dozens of apps by creating your own automations. I prefer Automate because it uses a Flowchart design where you simply connect nodes but it's just preference.
Solid Explorer is the way to go. Yes it costs money but it is super worth it. No ads, no bulls**t and integration with storage services like onedrive or google drive.
Camera FV-5 is the way to go if you are into photography.
EDIT: I appreciate that someone is willing to help me with my old phone but I have moved on from it. The damage is done and I am not looking to repair it. I have already customized my current phone extensively and I'm not going to try and fix my old phone now.
Whatsapp needs a serious update. The latest addition to Telegram gives it really advanced group messaging features. I'm lucky enough that most of my friends have switched to Telegram so when I have to use Whatsapp it's a bit of a shock how old it looks and the lack of features.
Because Telegram switched to Google and Amazon servers. Russian govt started banning Google and Amazon Cloud IP addresses, the airports and ATMS that relied on them also went down.
Govt banned telegram.org . So telgram switched to Google Cloud and Amazon web services. Then the govt banned millions of IP addresses, thus fucking up Russian Internet
In meinem Bekanntenkreis wird jetzt vornehmlich Telegram benutzt, vor allem wegen den guten Client Möglichkeiten (sprich gleichzeitig auf PC, Tablet und Smartphone erreichbar und synchronisiert). Außerdem geht die Entwicklung sehr schnell vorran, und es gibt mittlerweile viele neue Features, die den Client von den Wettbewerbern absetzen. (Bot Funktion, Broadcasting Channels, ...)
Achja als Disclaimer vielleicht zu den Gründern von Telegram: Das ist der ehemalige Chef vom russischen Facebook-Klon VKontakte. Die Position musste er angeblich durch Druck der Politik dort aufgeben und operiert nun von Deutschland aus, soweit ich weiß. Hier ein Interview mit ihm: Link
From the F.A.Q. on their website:
> We believe in fast and secure messaging that is also 100% free. > > Commercial companies frequently face the need to compromise their values for financial gain. This is why we made Telegram a non-commercial project. Telegram is not intended to bring revenue, it will never sell ads or accept outside investment. It also cannot be sold. We're not building a “user base”, we are building a messenger for the people. > > Pavel Durov, who shares our vision, supplied Telegram with a generous donation through his Digital Fortress fund, so we have quite enough money for the time being. If Telegram runs out, we'll invite our users to donate or add non-essential paid options.
>Q: Can Telegram protect me against everything?
>
>Telegram can help when it comes to data transfer and secure communication. This means that all data (including media and files) that you send and receive via Telegram cannot be deciphered when intercepted by your internet service provider, owners of Wi-Fi routers you connect to, or other third parties.
Source: https://telegram.org/faq#q-can-telegram-protect-me-against-everything
So there are a myriad of available options that have about the same reliability, within a unnoticeable level of deviance, that provide a significantly greater degree of privacey.
All of the listed option work very similar to messenger without stealing your data
Provides end to end encryption built in and is on all platforms https://discordapp.com
Another end to end encryption app on all platforms https://telegram.org
This is just a couple a quick internet search will provide more with greater levels of security.
I'm replying to you to facilitate and implore you to leave facebook and all its companies behind because they only seek to know everything about you in the effort to make a profit off of you at any cost. We each can make a difference to end Facebook's deceitful practices and by doing so make the world a more secure place for us all.
>At my company, we all use Gtalk for casual conversation
DuckDuck Go Public XMPP Server
There are all kinds of options out there, I would not go with Hangouts though, no since rewarding Google for creating Wall Gardens. Google should be working to OPEN things not close them off.
"Telegram is free forever. No ads. No subscription fees." How do they pay for the staff, servers, bandwidth, etc. ???
Also, cartoon of a woman in a trenchcoat flashing a baby bear on the main page. ( https://telegram.org/ ) How long before PC outrage?
1- No. If you have a data plan, it would consume your data cause it needs internet to work, just like WhatsApp. Otherwise, no, it simply wouldn't work if you have no mobile data or wifi.
2- Cause Telegram has various privacy features that allow you to use it without sharing your phone number. Like you can set a username and hide your phone number, so people can find you through your username and not know your phone number. Comes handy for people you just met or business contacts.
You should check out the FAQ and their Blog for more information about features. There's a ton of stuff to learn about Telegram if you're new to it.
Telegram will only disclose your IP to law enforcement if it receives a court order confirming you are a terrorist. According to their privacy policy, "[s]o far, this has never happened."
From the FAQ:
>>> Q: How are you going to make money out of this?
>>>> We believe in fast and secure messaging that is also 100% free.
>>>> Pavel Durov, who shares our vision, supplied Telegram with a generous donation through his Digital Fortress fund, so we have quite enough money for the time being. If Telegram runs out, we'll invite our users to donate and add non-essential paid options to break even. But making profits will never be a goal for Telegram.
Telegram is superb. They have a $300,000 reward for anyone who can crack their encryption methods. It's supported on Windows, OS X, Linux, Android, iOS, Windows Phone, and has a web version as well. It's faster and more reliable than SMS, MMS, and iMessage, plus it features usernames if you don't want to use your phone number for identification purposes. Beyond being an amazing application, it's also an amazing company. They've vowed to be free forever with an open API and protocol available to everyone. Their app updates are always informative and written in detail; you'll never see just "Bug fixes," when they push an update. If you're still using WhatsApp, I highly recommend switching to Telegram.
Two examples of different cases that may help you understand and know more about name squatting on Telegram:
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Hello, this is Telegram Support. This information is important:
One of your unused channels had the username https://t.me/smstelegram in our system. While Telegram usernames are served on first come — first serve basis, there are several exceptions to this rule: https://telegram.org/faq#q-what-do-i-do-if-my-username-is-taken
Due to the fact that one account can register multiple bot and channel usernames, we reserve the right to recall usernames assigned to unused bots and channels.
I'm afraid, this is exactly the case of your channel — it’s been inactive for long and unfortunately, its username has now been recalled. We are sorry that this had to happen.
In case you own this name as a trademark or have some other legal claim regarding it, kindly provide the details.
2️⃣
Hello, this is a notification from Telegram Support. Unfortunately, we had to transfer your channel's username @{censored} to another Telegram user.
While Telegram usernames are served on first come — first serve basis, there is one exception to this rule:
Since we are a small company and don't have large legal departments, we outsource username disputes to older established social networks.
What this means, is that if a person is using the same username on at least two of these three networks: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram — we consider it to be part of their online identity and will give them that username, should they request it (read more in the FAQ).
I'm afraid, this is exactly what happened to your username. A person contacted us and confirmed that they are using this name on at least two of the services mentioned above. Unfortunately, we had to give the contested username to them.
We are deeply sorry that this happened. In case you own this name as a trademark, please provide the details to .
Have a look at something like Telegram or Signal - remember nothing is 100% safe or secure, but some approaches are better than others!
I find it contradictory that it is a criminal offence to tamper with someone's physical mail, but the government is fine with placing easily exploitable back-doors into our communication services and accessing our private information.
We have a right to protect our physical and intellectual property.
edit: added Signal as another option
Check the FAQ. The code for the server, which is really the most important part, isn't opensource, and you can't run one yourself. You have to use their closed-source centralized cloud service. Maybe they honestly intend to make it opensource in the future, but at this stage, calling this opensource is a gimmick. This is currently not opensource in any meaningful way, except perhaps that you can more easily figure it out if they're sending up extra personal data about you to their service which they shouldn't be because the client side is opensource.
> Q: Why not open source everything?
> All code will be released eventually. We started with the most useful parts — a well-documented API that allows developers to build new Telegram apps, and open source clients that can be verified by security specialists.
> Q: Can I run Telegram using my own server?
> Our architecture does not support federation yet. Telegram is a unified cloud service, so creating forks where two users might end up on two different Telegram clouds is unacceptable. To enable you to run your own Telegram server while retaining both speed and security is a task in itself. At the moment we are undecided on whether or not Telegram should go in this direction.
Aparentemente o Deltan usou a nova funcionalidade do Telegram, que funciona como um botão do pânico, apagando todas as suas mensagens, até da conta de outras pessoas
In case you're confused and not just making a joke, telegram is a messaging/group chat service similar to slack and discord. For whatever reason, it became incredibly popular among furries.
>And One More Thing
>
>Since 2014, Telegram users have been sharing files up to 1,5 GB each, which happens to be 93 times larger than 16 MB (which is a totally random number, we have no idea what it could possibly mean).
>
>From now on, you can send unlimited numbers of media and files of any kind – up to 2 GB each.
>
>And that‘s it for today. We're now in the middle of the year — with eight major updates behind us and long-awaited features just around the corner. Stay tuned!
Talking about roll-your-own crypto. There's been a lot of talk against Telegram Messenger since it uses custom crypto. They pay good money for vulnerabilities and I, as a user, would like for the crypto experts to examine it.
Telegram does not encrypt your message by default. https://telegram.org/privacy#secret-chats
If they already use end to end encryption by default then why do users need a separate "secret chats"? Are they talking about double encryption? lol They can implement disappearing message like Signal in the regular chat. But users have to open a new chat screen/window for it. Same as facebook. Facebook by default does not encrypt chats, but they also have a "secret chat" function where they claim they encrypt all chat data.
So this sounds a little shady to me.
https://telegram.org/privacy#messages When you delete a message, you delete it from your message history. This means that a copy still stays on the server as part of your partner‘s message history. As soon as your partner deletes it too, it’s gone forever.
They keep message history on their servers forever unless both party or all people in group chat delete their entire history. And as well all know people don't delete shit from group chats. So it stays forever, also
https://telegram.org/privacy#cloud-chats Telegram is a cloud service. We store messages, photos, videos and documents from your cloud chats on our servers, so that you can access your data from any of your devices anytime and use our instant server search to quickly access your messages from waaay back. All data is stored heavily encrypted and the encryption keys in each case are stored in several other DCs in different jurisdictions. This way local engineers or physical intruders cannot get access to user data.
Yeah good to know but I would rather not have my data "on da clouds" for any reason whatsoever unless I absolutely have to. Signal deletes messages, pics whatever after it is delivered to respective party/parties or keep it for few days until it delivers, if that time limit is crossed then the messages are deleted.
Again, not a guru myself, but on their FAQ they mention a bit of how their encryption works. Could anyone elaborate on how much non-standard their encryption method is?
They actually answer that question in their FAQ:
> We believe in fast and secure messaging that is also 100% free. > > Commercial companies frequently face the need to compromise their values for financial gain. This is why we made Telegram a non-commercial project. Telegram is not intended to bring revenue, it will never sell ads and cannot accept outside investment. It also cannot be sold. We're not building a “user base”, we are building a messenger for the people. > > Pavel Durov, who shares our vision, supplied Telegram with a generous donation through his Digital Fortress fund, so we have quite enough money for the time being. If Telegram runs out, we'll invite our users to donate and add nonessential paid options to break even. But making profits will never be a goal for Telegram.
The points this article is missing. Telegram is free software (available on F-Droid), whatsapp is proprietary. Also please compare the privacy policy of telegram and whatsapp. Telegram basically says doesn't share anything with anyone. Whatsapp's privacy policy says they'll share almost anything with a lot of companies.
https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/#privacy-policy
Encryption in whatsapp says nothing since they can decrypt the messages, it is not really end-to-end encrypted. You can check this yourself. Send a message to a phone that is off/dead, connect whatsapp to a new phone and the message will arrive. They can decrypt the message and encrypt it again while it's in transit.
The author is right that Signal is better. But it is still a centralized server. Best would be to use something like Riot.im, which uses the federated matrix network and supports end-to-end encryption on multiple devices (something signal also just introduced).
From Telegram's own privacy policy:
>Telegram is a cloud service. We store messages, photos, videos and documents from your cloud chats on our servers so that you can access your data from any of your devices anytime without having to rely on third-party backups. All data is stored heavily encrypted and the encryption keys in each case are stored in several other data centers in different jurisdictions.
As long as you're not using end-to-end encrypted private chats, Telegram stores both your (encrypted) chats and the keys to decrypt those chats on its own servers.
Of course, Telegram also says
>This way local engineers or physical intruders cannot get access to user data.
but you really have to massively trust Telegram that that's the case. Technically, there's nothing there that would prevent Telegram from reading your chats.
"All Telegram messages are always securely encrypted. Messages in Secret Chats use client-client encryption, while Cloud Chats use client-server/server-client encryption and are stored encrypted in the Telegram Cloud (more here). This enables your cloud messages to be both secure and immediately accessible from any of your devices – even if you lose your device altogether."
If you are worried about Telegram not having an end-to-end encryption (even though you can enable it anytime you want and even if you don't it always has cloud encryption), you probably shouldn't use a centralized messaging platform at all.
>Telegram
><div class="footer_telegram_description"></div> >Telegram is a cloud-based mobile and desktop messaging app with a focus on security and speed. ^1
Gee, I always wanted a chat program that doesn't freeze after you type a paragraph and hit enter! Why hasn't anyone thought of this before?
Gee, I always wanted a chat program that doesn't send the contents of my private conversations to some random dudes! Why hasn't anyone thought of this before?
Q: What makes Telegram groups cool?
Public groups
Get a short link for your group and make it public, like t.me/publictestgroup. This way, anybody can view the group's entire chat history and join to post messages.
Oh, this story. And you know, this guy was really into Russia for some time... Look at this. IT specialists often leave Russia, because they hate this unsafe environment for both people and businesses, but Durov actively used his authority to convince people not to leave Russia, because he believed it was a great place. So he made these posters about how it is great to be in Russia. And I remember thinking to myself - "This guy would regret this point". And so he did next year - Vkontakte has been stormed by FSB for denying assess to Ukrainian communities personal data to the government, and he had left the country. Also he made Telegram, an open-source messenger with great cryptography for anyone who would ever find themselves in such a situation. I am a bit sad I was right.
> is just another proprietary chat app
I wouldn't say that. It's no XMPP, that is true, but they have public documentation of their protocol, allow you to write your own apps, and offer the source code of all their own apps.
https://core.telegram.org/mtproto
https://telegram.org/apps#source-code
As far as chat apps go, this one is pretty cool.
From the telegram website:
Secret chats use end-to-end encryption, thanks to which we don't have any data to disclose.
To protect the data that is not covered by end-to-end encryption, Telegram uses a distributed infrastructure. Cloud chat data is stored in multiple data centers around the globe that are controlled by different legal entities spread across different jurisdictions. The relevant decryption keys are split into parts and are never kept in the same place as the data they protect. As a result, several court orders from different jurisdictions are required to force us to give up any data.
Thanks to this structure, we can ensure that no single government or block of like-minded countries can intrude on people's privacy and freedom of expression. Telegram can be forced to give up data only if an issue is grave and universal enough to pass the scrutiny of several different legal systems around the world.
To this day, we have disclosed 0 bytes of user data to third parties, including governments.
Um, ok then. I don't use telegram, but it seems that if you have to switch to "secret chat" mode, then the default mode is not secret? What the hell is the point of such a useless tool that doesn't apply as much security as possible at all times?
> What's next, you might ask? The current global lockdown highlighted the need for a trusted video communication tool. Video calls in 2020 are much like messaging in 2013. There are apps that are either secure or usable, but not both. We'd like to fix that, and we will focus on bringing you secure group video calls in 2020.
>
>When will they be ready? You‘ll be the first to know when we’re done, promise. So stop asking.
Getgems is a fork of telegram, which is open source
Telegram is open sourced under gpl license (see https://telegram.org/apps)
This means the MUST make their source code available, or else they are creating some ethical violations/breaking the law (https://tldrlegal.com/license/gnu-general-public-license-v2)
Getgems is closed source which means 1) I wouldn't trust them with my BTC (even if they are trustworthy, they might have code flaws which peer review could find) 2) They're kind of pissing on open source developers
WhatsApp Web is pretty useless, you have to keep your phone on and connected to Wi-Fi. Telegram does it better, it has a full functional client, even for tablets, and it's free.
According to Telegram Privacy Policy, 10.2:
>In cloud chats, you can choose to delete a message for all participants within at least 48 hours after sending. Otherwise, deleting a message will delete it from your message history. This means that a copy will stay on the server as part of your partner's message history. As soon as your partner deletes it too, it's gone forever.
However, this 48 hours limit is outdated, because (the same 10.2):
>As of version 5.5, any party can choose to delete any messages in one-on-one chats, both sent and received, for both sides. There is no time limit. Any party can also opt to clear the entire chat history for both parties, in which case the apps will be instructed to remove all messages in that chat, however many of them are still retained by either of the participants.
The actual Telegram version for Android/iOS is 7.9
Please read here.
To improve the security of your account, as well as to prevent <em>spam</em>, abuse, and other violations of our Terms of Service, we may collect metadata such as your IP address, devices and Telegram apps you've used, history of username changes, etc. If collected, this metadata can be kept for 12 months maximum.
Visto il topic, lascio qua una cosa che può essere utile a qualcuno.
Telegram in questi giorni ha lanciato la possibilità di creare chat per zona geografica: è così possibile magari conoscere gente della zona e avviare qualche nuova amicizia.
I think, the best thing you should do is to communicate with Telegram by adding descriptive information into your request. Just send them an email or https://telegram.org/support
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Telegram should notify the owner of the account which is going to be banned. I'm starting to get frightened because of this kind of situations and also Reddit posts. There are many posts like this one.
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I think, there are many people using Telegram as a messaging app, cloud service, note app, and so on.. Since it has bots, you can do whatever you want with Telegram. So, what if I lose all my data for no reason like that?
I don't think Telegram will have video calls soon. They don't even have audio calls. Why? Because they focus on messaging (and they honestly make really cool and trending features). Also read this answer in their FAQ.
> Telegram itse tarjoaa myös 300 000 dollaria heille jotka pystyy murskaamaan heidän salauksensa.
Noi säännöt on vaan sellaiset ettei sitä voi kukaan voittaa ja toisekseen olisi tämmöinen juttu, johon Bruce Schneier tylysti kommentoi,
> Don't use Telegram.
Yes: http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/01/whatsapp-is-blocking-links-to-rival-app-telegram-on-android/
Tsu was spammy, so understandable I think.
See this, too, at the bottom: https://telegram.org/faq#facebook
I think they made some site changes a couple months ago leading people to believe that maybe they compromised with authorities.
https://telegram.org/faq#q-do-you-process-data-requests
From the above:
> To this day, we have disclosed 0 bytes of user data to third parties, including governments.
Telegram is not based in Russia. It's true that a lot of the developers are originally from St.Petersburg and one of the primary funders (Pavel Durov) is from Russia, but according to the FAQ, they’re currently located in Dubai.
Seems like a decent time to mention that if an attacker is able to compromise Telegram's servers they could, undetected, alter the group membership to add themselves to the group, read all past messages of the group, read all future messages of the group and no one in the group would receive a notification.
>Q: So how do you encrypt data?
>We support two layers of secure encryption. Server-client encryption is used in Cloud Chats (private and group chats)
From their website. https://telegram.org/faq#q-so-how-do-you-encrypt-data
A large portion of their user base is, I'm quite sure, under the impression group chats are secure and imho that is due in no small part to telegrams marketing and muddying of the waters.
Yeah, many people say that. Still there were multiple contests (One example) with bounty to crack telegrams encryption and there were no winners.
I believe the encryption is bad when there's actual evidence for it. But just saying the encryption isn't robust because some people who analyzed it told you so (But didn't actually crack it) is just BS.
Telegram for the win. Similar user interface, more features in general, partly open source, clients for various devices & more secure (256-bit symmetric AES encryption, RSA 2048 encryption and Diffie–Hellman secure key exchange).
Ok, I'll bite.
My first thought is that it may be that this person has a client open on your account. You can close all active sessions using the phone app. Something along the lines of Setting -> Privacy and Security -> Active Sessions. I am on Windows Phone and it's unlikely that you are so the menu structure may well be different it should be similar and with the same functionality. Look for any unusual sessions in there and kill them if needed.
You can then add 2-factor authentication from the Privacy and Security menu to further secure your account
Additionally/alternatively contact Telegram Support to discuss/investigate the method by which the "hacker" could have access to such information.
Good luck
Not sure I understand - so encrypted communication (like TextSecure, Telegram) is good, except when used by Wall Street, its bad and the government needs to be able to read those?
Sir that's a feature introduced on Telegram and then copied by WhatsApp.
Introduction
Telegram https://telegram.org/blog/replies-mentions-hashtags (March 19 2015)
WhatsApp https://www.slashgear.com/whatsapp-introduces-quoted-message-responses-12443838/ (2016)
Also, the default chats on Telegram are not end-to-end encrypted, only the 'secret' chats:
>Q: So how do you encrypt data?
>We support two layers of secure encryption. Server-client encryption is used in Cloud Chats (private and group chats), Secret Chats use an additional layer of client-client encryption.
https://telegram.org/faq#q-so-how-do-you-encrypt-data
> Q: How are secret chats different?
>Secret chats are meant for people who want more secrecy than the average fella. All messages in secret chats use end-to-end encryption.
You should look into Telegram then: https://telegram.org/
By far my favorite messaging platform right now. The desktop client is friggin solid. No SMS support though. Better than letting facebook have all my stuff though.
Like /u/p4p3r said, it's always a bad idea to have custom anything in crypto. There are tried and tested methods out there that are still secure and should be used. What Telegram guys did is butcher up known good stuff and made their own custom changes.
Issue with this approach is original algorithms and protocols were tested by a large number of cryptographers and there are still no known attacks against them. Changed stuff we don't know if it's secure or not simply because we can't predict easily implications of changes they made.
Another bad thing Telegram developers did is to make a contest where they offered a reward for cracking their protocol but issued a bunch of rules which make the whole thing pointless. In real world whoever tries to crack the protocol won't respect those rules. So it's implied that rules are there to make sure no one cracks protocol and gives them a bad reputation, which kind of defeats the point of security.
Basically, researchers found two approaches that can be used to crack Telegram's protocol and thus proving what we knew already, that using your own encryption is a bad idea, and you shouldn't use Telegram for its security.
If you can convince (and it's a big if, I know) those friends and family to try Telegram (https://telegram.org/) which is cross-platform and has desktop apps, you would be able to have all those things. If you send your pictures and video as files on it then they will be lossless.
Telegram https://telegram.org/ is the better WhatsApp. It has a big community of 50 million users + it is open source. Other than WA, it let's you innvoate on it. (Gems for example is based on Telegram).
It's easier to set up than WhatsApp web. Telegram, unlike WhatsApp web, doesn't need to sync continuously with your phone because messages are stored in the cloud.
You can download the official client from https://telegram.org/
My friends and teachers mainly use Messenger, my family (especially older generations) mainly use WhatsApp. I’m a bit of a weird guy, because I deeply refuse to use these apps, amongst a lot of other things people use, but I don’t regret the decision of delete my Facebook account a few years ago and sometime after blocking all Facebook domains.
I was able to convince some people I contact often to switch to Signal first, than we switched to Telegram where I convinced even more people. Switching to Telegram from WhatsApp is very easy btw. since they added an option to import your chats.
And yes, I’d also like to see iMessage on Android.
> Q: Where is Telegram based?
>
>The Telegram development team is based in Dubai.
>
>Most of the developers behind Telegram originally come from St. Petersburg, the city famous for its unprecedented number of highly skilled engineers. The Telegram team had to leave Russia due to local IT regulations and has tried a number of locations as its base, including Berlin, London and Singapore. We’re currently happy with Dubai, although are ready to relocate again if local regulations change.
I recently started using Telegram because it's the last place all the banned conservatives are active. According to their blog here: https://telegram.org/blog/unsend-privacy-emoji
WhatsApp isn't what it seems.
Telegram looks great BTW. Can function like WhatsApp, or Facebook etc plus allows you to delete your content whenever you want.
Nope
https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram
It's just mtproto for secret chats, plain client to server encryption for everything else. No usage of other protocols, that I can see.
The app Signal supports multiple devices. One device acts as a master, messages are encrypted to all your devices' own unique keys. Your master device signs the public keys of your other devices to prove they're yours.
You can search locally in your own copy of the logs.
Matrix.org lets the user handle keys however they wish. It acts much like XMPP.
Emoji are saved in the system font files, which cannot easily be updated via the Play Store. Luckily Hiroshi Lockheimer (the senior vice president for Android, Chrome OS and Chromecast) confirmed that they are working on the new emojis.
Some apps, for example Telegram, have the emoji built-in the app, so they already have the newest emoji available.
As a side note, Telegram is doing it too. I posted this awhile ago but mods removed it because it was off topic (posted during the MOB discussions). We'll see if u/mad-de's post gets removed for the same reason too.
From what you say it sounds like the group was banned, and the owner's account was banned because they were the owner of the group, not the other way around. That's not a flaw, that's how it's supposed to work. You can review Telegram's TOS to see why the group might have been banned. The only reason Telegram takes action are:
From Telegram’s official blog: “To make sure your call is 100% secure, you and your recipient just need to compare four emoji over the phone.”
It’s basically a verification key to show that your call is secured on both ends.
I know there is a fairly limited audience for this but I was looking for a high quality sticker pack for Telegram Messenger (https://telegram.org/) and I couldn't find one. So, I made my own and figured I would share. If you are a telegram user, you can add the sticker pack via this link: https://telegram.me/addstickers/mcelroyboys
I will continue to add new stickers as time permits so if you have any suggestions, feel free to send them my way.
>Does Telegram wipe unused accounts without warning?
Yes.
From their FAQ:
>If you stop using Telegram and do not log in for at least six months, your account will be deleted along with all messages, media, contacts and every other piece of data you store in the Telegram cloud. You can change the exact period after which your inactive account will self-destruct in Settings.
Telegram hit 200m monthly users last month. According to the article it's a Russian judge in a Russian court banning it in Russia, so it's likely to have the most impact on Russia
https://telegram.org/privacy#3-deleting-data
That section is actually more relevant.
Deleting your account permanently removes all your messages, groups and contacts. This action must be confirmed via your Telegram account and cannot be undone. Messages
Everything you delete is deleted forever. Except for cats. We never delete your funny cat pictures, we love them too much.
When you delete a message, you delete it from your message history. This means that a copy still stays on the server as part of your partner‘s message history. As soon as your partner deletes it too, it’s gone forever. Telegram's goal is not to bring profit and we value the disk space on our servers greatly.
In supergroups, deleted messages and original versions of edited messages are stored for 48 hours in order to be shown in the admins log (added in Telegram 4.1.).
Dude this sounds like an ad, but if you want to engage with us about Telegram I'm happy to participate.
why don't you use open source cryptography?
why are all comms not end-to-end encrypted by default?
Do you have any evidence that WhatsApp is abusing its users as you described at the end? Laying out the charge that it can without providing any support doesn't make you look great since your app is not open source (so it could be doing anything as well).
Stop throwing the word OPSEC around like candy, it doesn't make you sound cool or 1337. It literally expands to OPERATION SECURITY which is null in this case because are no operations to secure here to begin with. TG is based out of Russia and has a history of not sharing with even Russian law enforcement, so you're one paranoid fucktard who thinks that they'll share it Inspector Dhole from NCB. Its explictly written in the Telegram TOS that it doesn't store users encrypted data on its servers. All secret chats are scrubbed immediately after the stipulated timer (which is user decided) which you'd know if you ever fucking USED telegram in the first place. Its realistically impossible to use PGP everywhere because it's horribly inconvenient to encrypt and decrypt walls of text over and over again. Here, I took the liberty of linking you to the TOS which pretty much states what I just did. The only basic security measure to be taken is not to use your real life name and/or photo there. Telegram has publicly refused to release user data in the past and I dont see that changing unless the quantities involved are massive. So please shove that tinfoil hat up your ass and get off the self righteous horse. People know what they're doing without you showing up here teaching us(((OPSEC))).
I got lucky in that all my friendship groups use either Hangouts, Messenger, or Telegram (all of which have Ubuntu apps) so I didn't have any problems with it. I've heard whispers on the wind of a WhatsApp webapp so that will hopefully be of help to people who need it.
It's generally either curiosity or confusion. Most people who've seen it seem excited by the fact that it does things so differently, and like those differences. This isn't a technical audience either, just family and friends. There are still quite a lot of people though who are just confused why I'd choose it over Android or iOS, brushing it off without much consideration.
More specifically, Telegram doesn't do end-to-end encryption by default. Their reasoning for only securing chats to and from the server: "This enables your ordinary Telegram messages to be both secure and available in the cloud so that you can access them from any of your devices — which is very useful at times."
According to this, secret chats don't do authentication, meaning that the server can perform a man-in-the-middle attack even when using secret chats.
Apple and Google's app store policies force Telegram to censor public porn groups. If you're on Android, download it from telegram.org to bypass play store restrictions. If not, uh... buy a less restrictive phone I guess.
Here’s an article detailing some cool stuff Telegram has (and some of them, other chat apps lack).
Here’s an official Telegram blog with the chronology of all their updates and new features added, in case you wanna check that out too.
Telegram apps are open source for one. All forms of encryption and transportation are not equal either. I would recommend researching both options if this is something you want to consider. Here is a good starting point: https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram
They basically don't have one and it isn't
> We believe in fast and secure messaging that is also 100% free. > > Pavel Durov, who shares our vision, supplied Telegram with a generous donation, so we have quite enough money for the time being. If Telegram runs out, we will introduce non-essential paid options to support the infrastructure and finance developer salaries. But making profits will never be an end-goal for Telegram.
If you get a notification that someone joined telegram, it's because you had them in your contacts, not because they had your phone number.
Edit: that said, you also have the ability to control who can look you up by number. See the bottom of their blog post about it to read up on the matter.
The bot asks for reasons to list the coin, these are my reasons:
Tell the hacker he/she could win cold hard cash money if they show Telegram how they broke their encryption.
Otherwise, it's probably someone on a session that was left open (as /r/TheMysteryRedditor said) or somehow your phone number to authenticate is comprised.
Edit: Formatting
Telegram is far and above better than iMessage. It works on just about every platform (iOS, android, web, Blackberry, UNIX console, etc.) and its encrypted. It also supports off-the-record chats that disappear the same way Snapchat chats do, plus they go directly peer-to-peer. If you like stickers, all of Telegram's sticker packs are community-made and free.
Telegram's Website
According to their FAQ, Telegram's a non-commercial project that they started with the goal of being fast and secure. They seem pretty trustworthy.
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Some people exchange photos. If you are not comfortable with someone permanently holding onto them/screenshot-ing, you can share them over Telegram Secret Chat.
Hey, I'm using Telegram to chat. Join me! Download it here: https://telegram.org/dl
There's a very good community there and good info. The new Nervos marketer is in there asking g for suggestions and a dev or two are there as well
Almost anything is created from 0
A former Telegram developer, some time ago said that to initialize the database it was necessary to use a hexeditor
Server side they use kphp (Probably a modified version) https://github.com/VKCOM/kphp
For clients you can see here https://telegram.org/apps?setln=en
Telegram should add 'scam' as a report option, it's already in the ToS. I'm also tired of these dipshits.
I think the voice chat feature will be useful for classes. Chat History will be available for new users if you enable it group settings. There are polls option if you need to take feedbacks https://telegram.org/blog/voice-chats
If you need to avoid a government subpoena, then you need full end to end encryption and there's secret chat for that.
Now, getting acess to the machine and acessing data directly? I'll just use sources:
https://telegram.org/privacy#3-3-1-cloud-chats
https://telegram.org/faq#q-so-how-do-you-encrypt-data
And here's where the feature I mentioned is detailed and how it helps securing the cloud data as well:
https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-does-2-step-verification-work
Again, I've spent years on the platform and I've never had any "surprise".
You must have searched for some porno-related keyword. I doubt your kids will do that so it won't be an issue.
(Nope. Since March 13, 2016. )
Regardless if you use secret chats, they still use a custom made protocol (MTProto2) that hasn't been audited. They still store your contacts and it still requires a phone number and name to sign up, which they also store.
>We store your up-to-date contacts in order to notify you as soon as one of your contacts signs up for Telegram and to properly display names in notifications. We only need the number and name (first and last) for this to work and store no other data about your contacts.
Compared to plain SMS or Discord, sure, it's better. Compared to Signal, Wickr, Wire, Threema, and the slew of self hosted options, it's not quite there.
I asked someone at Telegram about this once. The back-end is mostly C and C++, since they need to squeeze all the performance they can out of their hardware. The clients are written in various languages; you can see them here: https://telegram.org/apps
/u/s8boxer Quando ativado, o 2FA do Telegram pede uma senha além do código enviado por SMS. Essa funcionalidade foi implementada em Abril de 2015.
Pienso que para evitar el doxxeo y revelar los números de celular deberías poner acá (o en todo caso mandar por mensaje privado) un link de invitación, mas que pedir que te pasen el celular de los que estén interesados
https://telegram.org/faq/es#p-cmo-puedo-aadir-ms-miembros-qu-es-un-enlace-de-invitacin
https://telegram.org/blog/invite-links
PD: no homo
Morals and abstract threats won't change behavior, specially on old people. They just don't care. If morals changed behavior global warming wouldn't be a problem. If future threats changed behavior obesity and tobacco wouldn't be a problem
What can change behavior are features. One example: I've been trying to steer my family away from FB Messenger (absolute success) and WhatsApp (battle still going on). To do so I've chosen a platform with a nicer set of features: Telegram. What has been helpful to do it are Telegram's features: a desktop client much better than a phone app, ability to send any kind of document, easier to send images and a rich ecosystem of bots that allows things like running queries, do price research, query trains schedules, etc. If Telegram gets their money transfer going, things will get a lot better.
Don't argue with people, talk is cheap. Offer them better alternatives and get them engaged with better features.
They mislead you, you can't sign up an account using the web version, just sign in to an existing one.
Here's what happens when you try to log in to web.telegram.org using a phone number that is not yet registered in Telegram:
>Error
>
>You don't have a Telegram account yet, please sign up with Android / iPhone first.
Method: auth.sendCode Result: {"_":"rpc_error","error_code":400,"error_message":"PHONE_NUMBER_APP_SIGNUP_FORBIDDEN"}
To register an account, you need to install an app on your smartphone or PC. Registration is possible in the Telegram Desktop, but the app will still first ask you to install the Telegram on your phone. This is done deliberately, because contacts won't be imported when you register using your PC, and this is quite an important thing for the messenger apps.
Slightly off topic, but does Telegram have a "how we plan to make money" or "how we plan to be sustainable as a safe and secure comminication platform for milions of people without selling them out"? article somewhere?
EDIT: it's in the FAQ! https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-are-you-going-to-make-money-out-of-this
I think the main reason are Telegram channels.
They're a great way to broadcast info to thousands of people without any of those people talking back at the same time and drowning important messages in a sea of bullshit. Unfortunately, this is also becoming very useful for terrorist groups and the likes to organise themselves anonymously and prepare events and attacks.
Then there's the fact that Pavel Durov, a Russian citizen, had to flee the country after the government tried to take control of the Telegram platform and he refused to comply. They never caught him and he keeps moving from country to country so they can't. I would assume the Russian government needs very little reason to attempt to destroy Telegram over there.
Third, all WhatsApp chats are encrypted end to end, same as Telegram's "secret chats". As such, there's no "private key" to request from WhatsApp since (in theory) there isn't one, and there's nothing that can be done to decrypt their messages. We can't know for sure of course since WhatsApp is not open source.
Telegram's group chats and channels, on the other hand, are only encrypted between the client and the server. They can't be encrypted end to end or otherwise you wouldn't have that sweet, sweet cloud sync of your full chat history between all your devices, including new devices (or web sessions) that were not active at the time those messages were sent.
This is in my opinion one of the features that makes Telegram so great, but at the same time it prevents it from being as secure as others. So far they've never given the encryption keys to anyone, and they've taken measures to distribute the keys throughout different countries and physical locations, so that it would be extremely difficult for any public entity to obtain them even if they were legally authorised to do so by a court order of a particular country.