What are Reddit's favorite Video Calling Apps?
Discord
Signal
Telegram
Slack
Google Meet
Snapchat
Jitsi
Hangouts
Guilded
Element
Skype
Wire
Tox
Facebook Messenger
Jami
Pidgin
Google Duo
Kast
Google Voice
LINE
WowApp
Librem Chat
Viber
Revolt
Imo
Linphone
Workplace by Facebook
LuckyCrush
Jitsi Meet
TrueConf
Jitsi Meet Electron
Gajim
Hyperbeam
Blink
CONTUS MirrorFly
Facebook Messenger Kids
Paltalk
Cyph
Fring
FortKnoxster
FaceTime
Antox
Ekiga
Tango
Lark
uTox
Camfrog
Proficonf
FreeConference.com
FaceFlow
Monkey
CooMeet
TeamViewer
VIPole Secure Messenger
Chanty
Briefing
Empathy
Crust Enterprise Messaging
Fleep
Silent Phone
Psi+
Text Me!
Hubgets
kMeet
Confrere
VSee Messenger
Top Reddit reviews mentioning Video Calling Apps:
We added automod support for galleries so mods can restrict captions or urls. We updated the automod docs, yesterday.
Also, we are planning to update our post requirements feature to include optional rules for galleries. These are the rules that we are considering:
- Captions are optional/required/disabled
- URLs are optional/required/disabled
- Link domain restrictions (if URLs are not disabled)
- Min/max number of gallery items
Are there any other post requirements that you’d find helpful for galleries?
>Spammers are gonna have a field day in larger subs.
All outbound links go through same spam filters as link posts.
WhatsApp is now using the exact same technology as Signal, and all communication is end to end encrypted by default. For technical details you can check out these links:
https://whispersystems.org/blog/whatsapp-complete/
https://www.whatsapp.com/security/WhatsApp-Security-Whitepaper.pdf
Friendly reminder that Signal is funded by (tax-deductible) donations. And you can donate crypto:
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(TBH, I had never really thought about how they were funded until I noticed the "Donate" link while reading their response.)
It's an instant messaging app, but you can also use it on pretty much any other device you own. Also (in the Android app at least) you can search images/gifs on the internet and instantly send them. Makes gif wars so much easier.
Here's how my dumb brain understands it:
His friend sent him a youtube link in WhatsApp. WhatsApp does link previews in its messages--and somehow, when the link loaded, Youtube knew that it was this dude looking at the link.
Fun fact: that's a classic OSINT technique to find people who are on the run. Send them an email with an embedded image saved on one of your websites, and then just wait for him to open the email--when he does, you can see what IP address loaded the image and boom--now you know where he is.
Also fun fact: Signal has taken steps to prevent this from happening: https://signal.org/blog/i-link-therefore-i-am/
From left to right ;P
The blue links are the same. Notice the via @roolsbot part of his and mine message? That means that the message was created using an inline bot (A telegram feature, see here). This specific bot lets you search for these links and also, in a more advanced way, let you insert these links naturally in your messages without you knowing the actual link, you just search for keywords basically. I tried to "show off" using this advanced mechanic to combine the two messages he had to send (because he only used the basic function of the bot) into one, using this advanced technique. And he then told me that he wrote this feature.
Sounds complicated? Dont worry, it is. I hope I could explain it though :)
Fellas it’s finally here! A lot of new features have been added so there could be some bugs I missed, let me know if you have problems.
As always, add me on snap to stay up to date with my lenses: yesimaranger
Link to lens: https://www.snapchat.com/unlock/?type=SNAPCODE&uuid=5004c2ba336d4606b4bd325a6c67b0cf&metadata=01
I just downloaded Signal to try it out, it's open source, and co-founded by Brian Acton who co-founded WhatsApp and left Facebook after the merge when they asked him to lie to the EU about their intentions to merge WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger. It seems to be nice, haven't tried it in anger. The desktop version is its own app, I'd have preferred a browser based option like WhatsApp web but that's a minor quibble.
Q: How are you going to make money out of this?
We believe in fast and secure messaging that is also 100% free.
Pavel Durov, who shares our vision, supplied Telegram with a generous donation, so we have quite enough money for the time being. If Telegram runs out, we will introduce non-essential paid options to support the infrastructure and finance developer salaries. But making profits will never be an end-goal for Telegram.
Unlike a lot of other technology projects, Signal is structured as a non-profit. We're supported directly by users like you, similar to organizations like Wikipedia. You can donate here: https://signal.org/donate/
We will never sell ads, and we've designed Signal to not know anything about anything (including no trackers or analytics), so we couldn't target ads even if we wanted to (which we don't).
I'll do this later today
edit: No idea how long it will be up because of the music and copyright and stuff, so get it while its hot.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SnapLenses/comments/92pi6y/ladies_and_gentlemen_we_got_em/
I have a hunch it could be related to https://signal.org/blog/cellebrite-vulnerabilities/ and the followup https://hothardware.com/news/cellebrite-physical-analyzer-software-no-longer-supports-iphones
What kind of phone does your wife have that they inspected?
Its not probable, but possible to not know if you are really eating a hotdog. Maybe you want to check your friend if he is a hotdog today.
Its for these compelling reasons I worked with Jian Yang and port his hot dog classifier on snapchat. Let me know what you think!
>We also cannot prevent others from making copies of your messages (e.g., by taking a screenshot). If we are able to detect that the recipient has captured a screenshot of a Snap that you send, we will attempt to notify you.
For me one of the biggest problems with slack (right after the fact it's proprietary and controlled by a company I don't trust) is that you need to pay, if you want full access to chat history. In theory you could use API to write a bot storing history somewhere, but it seems to be against terms of service (point 6.5).
Also, I still remember how slack suddenly changed their TOS and took my data as hostage. There was no option to decline new TOS and take my current chat history away. Fuck them.
Don't install freedom.
If you make the slightest mistake uninstalling it it will ruin your phone (lost my LG G3s that way, RIP)Enable developer options and set "Window animation scale", "Transition animation scale" and "Animator duration scale" to < 1 (mine are at 0.5x)
This will make apps appear faster and opening an app from "recents" is also faster. All the time spent watching animations is simply wasted.Want to converse with people/groups? Get "Telegram"! That way your personal data isn't being shared with Facebook if you were using WhatsApp. It also has an API for people to create bots and clients for all platforms. Seriously check it out https://telegram.org/
Get an app like Tasker or Automate and really learn how to use it. You can replace dozens of apps by creating your own automations. I prefer Automate because it uses a Flowchart design where you simply connect nodes but it's just preference.
Solid Explorer is the way to go. Yes it costs money but it is super worth it. No ads, no bulls**t and integration with storage services like onedrive or google drive.
Camera FV-5 is the way to go if you are into photography.
EDIT: I appreciate that someone is willing to help me with my old phone but I have moved on from it. The damage is done and I am not looking to repair it. I have already customized my current phone extensively and I'm not going to try and fix my old phone now.
Edit: I'm lmfao that this is actually live probably won't be for long but we'll see
Developer on Signal Desktop here.
IMO, Signal does not have an issue here, but of course I'm biased.
We go to great lengths to avoid the "metadata problem". We've been subpoenaed a few times and have been able to produce very little. We know when someone signed up for an account and when they last accessed the Signal service, but that's basically it.
We achieve this, in part, with something called "sealed sender". It's like a letter with no "from" address written on the envelope.
We also do limited logging and don't hold onto messages after they're delivered.
As others have mentioned, we're also working on adding usernames. Please know that this is a massive technical effort (the biggest I've seen in my time here) and will take some time, but it's definitely a priority.
As a developer on the Desktop app, I know full well that Signal is far from perfect. But I don't think our service suffers from the "metadata problem".
On my way home from the Denver exxxotica expo I was FINALLY on a flight that was less than full! I have been waiting to do something like this for YEARS!! My heart was racing and the guy next to me had no idea what I was doing! Can't wait for the next time I'm able to do something like this!!
edit: Since I'm getting so many messages asking for it, my snapchat is: GingerBanksSnap
Unfortunately that’s not possible in the current state of the lens studio, but if it ever is you bet I’ll make the audio progressively get soo much worse!
Edit: Direct link to the lens cause this is the top comment: https://www.snapchat.com/unlock/?type=SNAPCODE&uuid=6F69FBE5F1534C03A0DBCC92DB390E5C&metadata=01
I'm actually happy you put the OOPS there. You know why? Because a friend of mine came across your post and told me about it. And why should I care? Because I designed the damn thing :)
Some time ago I made an app for the Slack platform called "/oops" and this is the logo I designed for it, your post is how I realized it's the first result in Google when searching for the word "oops".
Made some changes, hopefully fixed a few things. You now no longer need a face to activate the effect Also added a bunch of symbols on the keyboard
For people using SailfishOS, CopperheadOS, and other Android-app compatible operating systems that don't include Google Play, the following might be equally (if not more) newsworthy:
Today, Open Whisper Systems (the team behind Signal) set up a way for people to install the official Signal Android client from outside of the Google Play Store: https://signal.org/android/apk/
When announcing it on the OWS Community Forum, Moxie Marlinspike said that this is a "harm reduction strategy since people are already running random APKs signed by other random people".
You can use real private messaging. Right now virtually uncrackable encrypted messaging exists but no one uses it for some reason.
For the people asking about it: https://www.openpgp.org
It looka like Signal is a better solution: https://signal.org/
This is the same company that Moxie Marlinspike absolutely embarrassed in a blog post recently after they claimed they could extract data from Signal. https://signal.org/blog/cellebrite-vulnerabilities/
"export your data"
more like export a fraction of your data
in their privacy statement they explicit say what they collect (https://www.whatsapp.com/legal?lg=en#privacy-policy-information-we-collect) and the fun part begins at the automatic collection.
Where is this data, that is way more interesting!
Beep. Boop. I'm a bot.
It seems one of the URLs that you shared contains trackers.
Try this cleaned URL instead: https://signal.org/blog/keeping-spam-off-signal/
If you'd like me to clean URLs before you post them, you can send me a private message with the URL and I'll reply with a cleaned URL.
That's why when I'm tonsil-deep in pussoir, I use Signal.
Its end-to-end encrypted communication ensures that my taint reaches my eyes unmolested by man in the middle interlopers.
Wave was way ahead of its time imho. Sure, it was unfocussed, never reached critical mass, and so on; but the underlying idea is great.
I can’t help but compare it to Slack, which does so much less but still manages to be so very useful. (And Slack doesn’t even touch collaboration.)
Just goes to show that there’s so much more to be explored in term of digital communication and collaboration. IM is just the very tip of the iceberg, Wave and Slack give us a taste of what’s to come …
I’m sure Wave will return (in spirit). When done right, this stuff will be amazing.
Whatsapp needs a serious update. The latest addition to Telegram gives it really advanced group messaging features. I'm lucky enough that most of my friends have switched to Telegram so when I have to use Whatsapp it's a bit of a shock how old it looks and the lack of features.
How to unlock this: >Opensnapchat. >Scan the code by pressing your screen until the unlock menu appears. >The lens is deleted after 24h but you can scan it again.
Link to unlock the lens: https://www.snapchat.com/unlock/?type=SNAPCODE&uuid=7103d2d82a154deda281047e5e8016ca&metadata=01
They've had it for a while... but they seem to slowly be rebranding from discordapp to discord, for example their twitter
I know for a **fact** that they've had discord.com since they changed their twitter to @discord, but i'm pretty sure they've had it for longer
I predict this subreddit will be renamed soon
The Signal team have vouched for WhatsApp in the past https://signal.org/blog/there-is-no-whatsapp-backdoor/
Granted that was a few years ago and there’s no telling if WhatsApp has changed since then. But Signal haven’t announced a change in stance regarding WhatsApp, so it’s probably safe enough, assuming you’re ok having your metadata mined…
Speaking of fire, Signal's very recent blog post as a response to a company, Cellebrite, claiming to be able to extract data from the app is pure gold. Their response could be summarized as "Just don't" but that does in no way make the full read any justice. It's a mood lifting read!
Direkt zum Original:
https://signal.org/blog/cellebrite-vulnerabilities/
"By a truly unbelievable coincidence, I was recently out for a walk when I saw a small package fall off a truck ahead of me."
Haha, klar "vom LKW gefallen"... Sympathisch, ja. Aber glaubwürdig?
PGP is hard to use and not very practical for direct messaging.
Signal is a much better suggestion, slick UI and easy to use. Also very secure (especially if you verify each other's private key) and open source.
I know the keyboard is not perfect for small devices like iPhone 5 but I'm working on it!
Let me know if you find any bug or any idea to improve it
For you, comments readers here is Rook: https://www.snapchat.com/unlock/?type=SNAPCODE&uuid=eb97b62cb0974264937150660fdd76f3&metadata=01
I will publish it officialy with the other lens soon but you can try it now !
End to end encryption betekent dat facebook niet kan meelezen. Wat ze via whatsapp wel weten is met wie jij praat en wanneer, wie er in je contactenlijst staan, in welke groepen je zit, wanneer je online bent, en als je dat aan hebt staan je locatie.
Edit: Een goed alternatief voor whatsapp is signal, die houden niks van je bij (bestaan van donaties) en gebruikt dezelfde encryptie als whatsapp (Eigenlijk is de encryptie in whatsapp bedacht door een van de mensen achter signal). Ik gebruik signal om te communiceren met de paar mensen in mijn vriendengroep die wel wat geven om privacy, maar het is lastig om de rest van whatsapp af te krijgen.
Signal is the only widely available, multi-platform secure messaging tool. True end to end encryption (you and your recipient have the only keys) and minimal metadata (Signal logs only the age of your account and the last time you used the service. thats it). Stop using other messaging tools if the contents of your messages are private. https://signal.org
re: online status and location, Signal does not have this by design. It would be a privacy leak. Signal actually gives a shit about real privacy. https://signal.org/bigbrother/central-california-grand-jury/
I'm sorry for your loss. I would recommend contacting WhatsApp directly to see how they could help under these circumstances. https://www.whatsapp.com/contact/
I wouldn't want you to risk loosing those memories.
Just a reminder, Open Whisper System is a non-profit, who run a privacy conscious service for free. They don't get the benefit of billions of dollars of advertising money here compared with FB and WhatsApp.
Please do donate if you value their service. https://signal.org/donate/
Not too long ago, Cellebrite announced "support" for Signal Messenger. This "support" is only for unlocked phones where Signal Messenger is also unlocked. Cellebrite makes devices that download any available info from many phones, locked or unlocked. An Android phone that is freshly restarted will expose minimal data. A decrypted phone (after you enter your password the first time), even when the screen is locked, will offer a little more data, still not much though. Something to note is that some things, like the alarm you set and named "Remember to dump the body from the drum," are accessible from your encrypted & locked phone.
The Signal organization "found" a Cellebrite UFED that "fell off a truck" and they found numerous vulnerabilities. Read the blog post here. It's not very long nor technical. Pay attention to the last paragraph, LMAO.
It's possible that law enforcement is looking for the pretty little files that "don't do anything" that Signal Messenger uploaded to a few random people's phones. I read a legal blog post suggesting that the US government might try to prosecute someone under the CFAA if these files do damage to any of their Cellebrite UFED machines, possibly with the goal of going after Signal Messenger.
Just a thought.
Because Telegram switched to Google and Amazon servers. Russian govt started banning Google and Amazon Cloud IP addresses, the airports and ATMS that relied on them also went down.
Govt banned telegram.org . So telgram switched to Google Cloud and Amazon web services. Then the govt banned millions of IP addresses, thus fucking up Russian Internet
https://twitter.com/signalapp/status/1261364662840385536
> Giphy was just acquired by Facebook, but GIF searches in Signal have been protected by a privacy-preserving proxy from the very beginning. The Giphy SDK isn't included in the app at all. You can read more about our approach to handling animated GIFs here: https://signal.org/blog/signal-and-giphy-update/
Signal has already been subpoenaed by the FBI and couldn't produce content, https://signal.org/bigbrother/eastern-virginia-grand-jury/. You won't find Telegram recommended by security advocates because it doesn't have the reputation Signal does.
"All-in-one voice and text chat for gamers that's free, secure, and works on both your desktop and phone." - Discord It also allows the uploads of videos and pictures.
There is a more work oriented platform called Slack, that also has the ability to text chat(pictures, videos, whatever) in a group based setting except that it does not have voice chat.
No. The username and discriminator are both required to identify a user; the only reason it exists, as far as I can tell, is to allow at most 9999 people to share a username (and even then, popular/short names have already started to become unavailable). If you try to change your username, and the combination of your current username and your discriminator is already in use, the number will have to change as well.
The ACTUAL user ID is a 64-bit number that you can get by turning on developer mode and selecting Copy ID (but it can't be used to send friend requests, so that doesn't help either.)
Looks like they've changed it a couple months ago; here's an archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20180702223031/https://signal.org/workworkwork/
I actually copied it from a message I sent a friend when I first read it. (Over Signal to boot, hah.)
It's me Ginger Banks! You can see more stuff like this on my twitter profile♥ and here is my free Snapchat but you won't see any dick sucking on there :P
Signal is open source, tried and tested, and end to end encrypted. It requires your number so you can communicate with anyone in your contracts (those without Signal).
They've proven through a court order that they could not help the big brother.. The only things they were able to share were the time the user registered and the last time they've used Signal.
I don't think any of the other alternatives have this much battle experience and trust.
Signal is basically an alternative to your regular SMS and calling app, so of course it will require those permissions. If you only want to communicate with Signal users, then go the route explained in the article you linked and use a burner number and not all any permissions.
It's interesting that they still have access to Facebook and WhatsApp. It is unfortunate that Signal is no longer domain fronting though I know Telegram was doing this as well (and for some reason hasn't gotten a similar letter?). I'm not a networking guy, but wouldn't encrypted DNS help resolve this issue? Not that people have access to it on their phones, but my understanding is that you'd have to shutoff access to the DNS (like CloudFlare (1.1.1.1)or Google (8.8.8.8)).
Before anyone goes screaming "Copying Discord"
Wanna leave that there. Existed before Discord, for quite some time. Discord itself is the copy.
https://a.slack-edge.com/3dba7/marketing/img/downloads/screenshots/win10_screenshot.png
> You proposed some bullshit alternative from what the rest of the planet uses.
Slack is used by organizations around the world, including NASA JPL, Time Magazine, BuzzFeed, and Harvard's administration. In fact, the moderator corps at /r/science uses Slack to manage their activities. There's nothing "alternative" about it; it's the de facto king in its domain, team communications.
You're free to do whatever you want. The topic of this thread is collating advice on tools that can be used by academics to help with their job. I've personally found Slack to be an exceptional tool, and I'm sharing my experience here.
Signal explains quite nicely how "disappearing messages" should be treated.
> Disappearing messages are a way for you and your friends to keep your message history tidy. They are a collaborative feature for conversations where all participants want to automate minimalist data hygiene, not for situations where your contact is your adversary — after all, if someone who receives a disappearing message really wants a record of it, they can always use another camera to take a photo of the screen before the message disappears.
>Unsurprisingly, this data sharing policy with Facebook and its other services doesn't apply to EU states that are part of the European Economic Area (EEA), which are governed by the GDPR data protection regulations.
Shitty that facebook is doing this, who knows which region they will apply this policy next.
Be aware it is also necessary to OPT-OUT in order to prevent "[sharing] my account information with Facebook to improve my Facebook ads and products experiences", and can only be done in the first 30 days of registering. All told, WhatsApp is a poor choice for privacy.
We like them today because they responded to a subpoena last week with basically "lol, we don't know anything".
We like them over the long term because they're a messaging app that just sends messages.
>In completely unrelated news, upcoming versions of Signal will be periodically fetching files to place in app storage. These files are never used for anything inside Signal and never interact with Signal software or data, but they look nice, and aesthetics are important in software. Files will only be returned for accounts that have been active installs for some time already, and only probabilistically in low percentages based on phone number sharding. We have a few different versions of files that we think are aesthetically pleasing, and will iterate through those slowly over time. There is no other significance to these files.
Notice the permissions you give when you use snapchat:
~~~~~~~quote the apps permissions on Google Play~~~~~~~~
This app has access to:
Identity
find accounts on the device
Contacts/Calendar
read your contacts
Location
precise location (GPS and network-based)
SMS
send SMS messages
Photos/Media/Files
test access to protected storage
modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
Camera/Microphone
take pictures and videos
record audio
Device ID & call information
read phone status and identity
Other
receive data from Internet
full network access
control vibration
prevent device from sleeping
view network connections
control flashlight
~~~~~end quote~~~~~
My bet is that the company is selling that information to advertisers.
You can read their privacy policy here and see what information they collect (including passwords, you'll see). Note that the privacy policy says they will use the information they collect to
> Communicate with you about products, services, offers, promotions, rewards, and events offered by Snapchat and others, and provide news and information we think will be of interest to you;
The privacy policy also says they will share information they gather about you
> With vendors, consultants and other service providers who need access to such information to carry out work on our behalf;
> In connection with, or during negotiations of, any merger, sale of company assets, financing or acquisition of all or a portion of our business to another company;
I also notice that
> If you choose to find friends, the names and phone numbers in your device's native phonebook will be transmitted to Snapchat.
Snapchat also uses Flurry, which will also gather, use, and sell information about you, your phone, it's contents, and what web sites you visit.
If an app is free, it's probable that you are being sold for the profit.
Slack for team communication. It really is much better then hangouts/messenger, and its app supports all major OS'es. Basically it's a communicator tailored for the needs of teams. It supports easy file transfer, thematic soubgroups, copy-pasting everything you want etc. In short I highly recommend it https://slack.com/
For those who missed it this particular company specializes in getting data from phones that have already been unlocked and requires the phone to be physically present.
There was an interesting blog written in April by the CEO of Signal (a secure messaging client) where he basically got a hold of one of their boxes and had a close look https://signal.org/blog/cellebrite-vulnerabilities/ that some of you might like to read.
The encryption is only for the messages. There is a ton of valuable personally identifiable information that they can (likely are) logging.
From whatsapp privacy policy
"We collect information about your activity on our Services, like service-related, diagnostic, and performance information"
"...how you use our Services, your Services settings, how you interact with others using our Services, and the time, frequency, and duration of your activities and interactions, log files, and diagnostic, crash, website, and performance logs and reports."
"...the features you use like our messaging, calling, Status, groups (including group name, group picture, group description)"
"We collect device and connection-specific information when you install, access, or use our Services. This includes information such as hardware model, operating system information, battery level, signal strength, app version, browser information, mobile network, connection information (including phone number, mobile operator or ISP), language and time zone, IP address, device operations information, and identifiers (including identifiers unique to Facebook Company Products associated with the same device or account)."
"Even if you do not use our location-related features, we use IP addresses and other information like phone number area codes to estimate your general location (e.g., city and country). We also use your location information for diagnostics and troubleshooting purposes."
They make a "messaging app". So it's going to be very young, very outgoing, very social.
So they're going to be looking for fresh-faced go-getters who think they're going to disrupt the industry. Essentially, if you've been working in the field for more than 5 years, you're going to be too jaded to "fit".
For them, drinking is a social activity, not something you do to dull the pain.
Be aware it is also necessary to OPT-OUT in order to prevent "[sharing] my account information with Facebook to improve my Facebook ads and products experiences", and can only be done in the first 30 days of registering.
This is Dazed Daisie.
Unfortunately her Snapchat is teasing only, so this must have been lifted from her paid Snapchat.
Public Snapchat: https://www.snapchat.com/add/dazeddaisietv
Edit: Psh, I didn't even look at the username submitting..
You guys wanted a beta so here it is!
Currently the button hit boxes aren’t perfect and the reliability of them will vary from device to device.
I’m working on a feature for the piano to be able to auto play some songs by itself, let me know what songs I should include!
Follow me on snap for more updates: yesimaranger
Edit: Link here
We just expanded our new scrim finder to Rainbow Six Siege, and I thought /r/Rainbow6 might like to check it out. How it works is that you create a team and add your team members, pick a time to play, and we'll notify you via Discord or through the app once we've found you an opponent. We pull stats for everyone on the team so we can figure out platform/region and match you to a similarly-skilled team.
It's only been available for Overwatch to-date (/r/overwatch thread, but R6 has been our #1 most requested game since then, so I'm hoping you all enjoy it. I'd love to hear your feedback if you get a chance to try it out! Thanks :)
Play music on your phone while tapping Bongo Cat for the best results!
Snapcode - https://i.imgur.com/o9ad1eL.png
Hey guys! We been long time lurkers of the subreddit. We wanted to share this new AR Lens we made on Snapchat! #Vaporwave inspired!
Tap to interact! Below is the link!
EDIT: Tap to interact with the lens! That's it changes to Vaporwave!
Okay, I've never made a snaplens before so it might be weird but: https://www.snapchat.com/unlock/?type=SNAPCODE&uuid=2eb2ce80bfa54865a948a8ab113756b7&metadata=01
Based on the opt-out instructions, they say it will not use your acct info for "Facebook ads and products experiences" - it sounds as if there are some limitations there (e.g. Find friends may not link your number, but FB can ban you across all services). What other parts of the Whatsapp privacy agreement would be violated here?
There's also this catch-all at the end:
> And finally, if WhatsApp suddenly changes how it collects, uses, or shares new data, the FTC is urging the company to let users opt out — or at the very least "make clear to consumers that they have an opportunity to stop using the WhatsApp service."
It sounds like they're fulfilling that.
In meinem Bekanntenkreis wird jetzt vornehmlich Telegram benutzt, vor allem wegen den guten Client Möglichkeiten (sprich gleichzeitig auf PC, Tablet und Smartphone erreichbar und synchronisiert). Außerdem geht die Entwicklung sehr schnell vorran, und es gibt mittlerweile viele neue Features, die den Client von den Wettbewerbern absetzen. (Bot Funktion, Broadcasting Channels, ...)
Achja als Disclaimer vielleicht zu den Gründern von Telegram: Das ist der ehemalige Chef vom russischen Facebook-Klon VKontakte. Die Position musste er angeblich durch Druck der Politik dort aufgeben und operiert nun von Deutschland aus, soweit ich weiß. Hier ein Interview mit ihm: Link
From the F.A.Q. on their website:
> We believe in fast and secure messaging that is also 100% free. > > Commercial companies frequently face the need to compromise their values for financial gain. This is why we made Telegram a non-commercial project. Telegram is not intended to bring revenue, it will never sell ads or accept outside investment. It also cannot be sold. We're not building a “user base”, we are building a messenger for the people. > > Pavel Durov, who shares our vision, supplied Telegram with a generous donation through his Digital Fortress fund, so we have quite enough money for the time being. If Telegram runs out, we'll invite our users to donate or add non-essential paid options.
Why Telegram? Telegram is known in crypto circles to be a bit shady to put it mildly. They invented their own encryption algorithms which is a big no-no when it comes to crypto. Is based or originated out of Russia meaning Russian state can try to interfere and/or influence. Ultimately is a privately help for-profit company meaning they can change their direction any moment they want to turn a profit.
If we really want to recommend a truly privacy-first messaging app, it should be Signal (https://signal.org) not Telegram.
>Q: Can Telegram protect me against everything?
>
>Telegram can help when it comes to data transfer and secure communication. This means that all data (including media and files) that you send and receive via Telegram cannot be deciphered when intercepted by your internet service provider, owners of Wi-Fi routers you connect to, or other third parties.
Source: https://telegram.org/faq#q-can-telegram-protect-me-against-everything
So there are a myriad of available options that have about the same reliability, within a unnoticeable level of deviance, that provide a significantly greater degree of privacey.
All of the listed option work very similar to messenger without stealing your data
Provides end to end encryption built in and is on all platforms https://discordapp.com
Another end to end encryption app on all platforms https://telegram.org
This is just a couple a quick internet search will provide more with greater levels of security.
I'm replying to you to facilitate and implore you to leave facebook and all its companies behind because they only seek to know everything about you in the effort to make a profit off of you at any cost. We each can make a difference to end Facebook's deceitful practices and by doing so make the world a more secure place for us all.
I made this one awhile ago, but there seems to demand for it now 🤷♂️
Press the little buttons for different Vsauce music!
Link to unlock: https://www.snapchat.com/unlock/?type=SNAPCODE&uuid=e367f19288e84bd7b581edd187fe4145&metadata=01
[sorry for the repost, added a preview]
https://signal.org/bigbrother/cd-california-grand-jury/
The top level of the link where this doc is from. Only the PDF of court docs opened for me
Before people strap on the tin foil, please consider that your data in signal is end to end encrypted and they are unable to provide anything, especially chat transcripts to the court
I just donated to them - they are a non-add / non-subscription app. If you like their platform, I would encourage anybody here to do so as well. Signal >> Donate to Signal
Imo, I don't see any advantage of telegram over signal
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From /u/redditor_1234 on /r/privacy
>Unlike Telegram, Signal does not need a 2FA option to protect against SS7 vulnerabilities. > >The Telegram servers collect every Telegram user's contact list and every message, photo, video and document that they send in the default chat mode, and unless the user has enabled the 2FA option that is buried in the app's settings page, the service allows anyone who can hijack the user's phone number or intercept their SMS messages to instantly have access to all of that user's cloud based data. > >In contrast, the Signal servers don't collect any contact lists and all Signal communications are end-to-end encrypted. If someone were to intercept a Signal registration code or hijack a Signal user's phone number and use it to register on a new device, the attacker would not gain access to any of the user's data, because it would all be stored locally on the targeted user's own device(s). The user's safety numbers would change, and the app would automatically alert everyone who has previously communicated with the targeted user's number, preventing anyone from accidentally calling or sending sensitive information to the hijacked number.
>At my company, we all use Gtalk for casual conversation
DuckDuck Go Public XMPP Server
There are all kinds of options out there, I would not go with Hangouts though, no since rewarding Google for creating Wall Gardens. Google should be working to OPEN things not close them off.
"Telegram is free forever. No ads. No subscription fees." How do they pay for the staff, servers, bandwidth, etc. ???
Also, cartoon of a woman in a trenchcoat flashing a baby bear on the main page. ( https://telegram.org/ ) How long before PC outrage?
Signal is trustworthy. I've tried intercepting their VOIP streams and was unable to on either end. Admittedly it's been a few years since I've done any professional security analyses and I may be behind on the latest and greatest tools, so grain of salt.
Properly deployed encryption is unbreakable. Even the still in-vitro quantum computer would only be able to slightly shorten prime factorization in asymmetric ciphers.
Paranoia is good and healthy. But knowing the capabilities of your adversary is equally important. Real-time decryption of even weak cipher suites isn't feasible, real-time processing and analytics is another beast entirely. So I wouldn't be worried about being randomly eavesdropped.
However if you're being targeted, they're are plenty of ways to exploit the biggest weakness there is in encryption. The user.
Edit: added link
Unlock it here: https://www.snapchat.com/unlock/?type=SNAPCODE&uuid=82205d934f0d460fa02b887c5b54c0a1&metadata=01
Feel free to leave your feedback if you have any :)
If one reads the actual post on the Signal blog, the author notes the Windows-based Cellebrite software includes s couple Apple DLLs, apparently in violation of Apple licensing.
The blog also says they're not putting landmines on every device, just randomly placing them on a small percentage of devices.
A couple quotes from Signal...
Just funny:
> By a truly unbelievable coincidence, I was recently out for a walk when I saw a small package fall off a truck ahead of me. As I got closer, the dull enterprise typeface slowly came into focus: Cellebrite. Inside, we found the latest versions of the Cellebrite software, a hardware dongle designed to prevent piracy (tells you something about their customers I guess!), and a bizarrely large number of cable adapters.
About the DLLs:
> It seems unlikely to us that Apple has granted Cellebrite a license to redistribute and incorporate Apple DLLs in its own product, so this might present a legal risk for Cellebrite and its users.
About the landmines:
> In completely unrelated news, upcoming versions of Signal will be periodically fetching files to place in app storage. These files are never used for anything inside Signal and never interact with Signal software or data, but they look nice, and aesthetics are important in software. Files will only be returned for accounts that have been active installs for some time already, and only probabilistically in low percentages based on phone number sharding. We have a few different versions of files that we think are aesthetically pleasing, and will iterate through those slowly over time. There is no other significance to these files.
> "For all Services other than Live, Local, and any other crowd-sourced Service, you grant Snapchat a worldwide, royalty-free, sublicensable, and transferable license to host, store, use, display, reproduce, modify, adapt, edit, publish, and distribute that content. This license is for the limited purpose of operating, developing, providing, promoting, and improving the Services and researching and developing new ones."
From their TOS
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Alright, for those of you who spend a good two minutes getting a 500 error and wondering what the heck everyone else was talking about in this thread:
- There's a new desktop web interface at https://hangouts.google.com/
- It's not available for mobile, so if you visit on a phone or tablet then you're going to get a 500 error.
DNSCrypt for Mac. Encrypts all DNS queries between your machine and OpenDNS and a few other DNS providers that don't log queries. For the security conscious who don't want their ISP tracking dns requests.
Slack - Team chat/productivity software. Totally free, allows you to invite an unlimited number of users. Mac, iOS and Android apps, plus Chrome extension/web version for every other OS. Use it to keep up with my team, it's a nice mix of IRC with tons of extra features built in like file sharing, integrations with other apps like Trello, etc. Lets us have separate rooms for each client, a room to screw around and post stuff we find on Reddit and just a place to chat about work that's fully archived and searchable.
This isnt the first time and wont be the last. Unless its a huge conspiracy it appears Signal does not have access to anything as it all encrypted and they only have access to the timestamps and creation date. https://signal.org/bigbrother/central-california-grand-jury/
1- No. If you have a data plan, it would consume your data cause it needs internet to work, just like WhatsApp. Otherwise, no, it simply wouldn't work if you have no mobile data or wifi.
2- Cause Telegram has various privacy features that allow you to use it without sharing your phone number. Like you can set a username and hide your phone number, so people can find you through your username and not know your phone number. Comes handy for people you just met or business contacts.
You should check out the FAQ and their Blog for more information about features. There's a ton of stuff to learn about Telegram if you're new to it.
Telegram will only disclose your IP to law enforcement if it receives a court order confirming you are a terrorist. According to their privacy policy, "[s]o far, this has never happened."
From the FAQ:
>>> Q: How are you going to make money out of this?
>>>> We believe in fast and secure messaging that is also 100% free.
>>>> Pavel Durov, who shares our vision, supplied Telegram with a generous donation through his Digital Fortress fund, so we have quite enough money for the time being. If Telegram runs out, we'll invite our users to donate and add non-essential paid options to break even. But making profits will never be a goal for Telegram.