Sounds like the bridge is too low. The C string should be @8.5mm above the end of the fingerboard This time of year (the winter heating season) the cello shrinks so the bridge goes down. It is a good idea to keep the cello in a humidified environment and have a calibrated hygrometer to keep track of the humidity. Probably won’t change this, but it will protect your cello and make it happier. Here is an article on the topic. I have his hygrometer. BTW, most major violin dealers in NYC keep the humidity at 40% so that instrument don;t experience shock when they are taken out of the shop.
I got this humidifier when one of ours died. Terrific
LEVOIT Humidifiers for Large Room Bedroom (6L), Warm and Cool Mist Ultrasonic Air Humidifier for Home Whole House Babies Room, Customized Humidity, Remote, Germ Free and Whisper-Quiet, 2-year Warranty https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYGNGKK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_pHA3Db85GWYA5
I would suggest buying a scales book. I'm pretty sure every teacher you will ever have will ask you to use a book.
I know this one is pretty popular: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0634069470/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_R7PYC9BKW3FVQG9ANKSC
This is the one that I'm using now, but it's a bit more advanced: https://www.amazon.com/dp/142340694X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_TBKN1HSQSJ06ZR9JAQMF
I had this same response to these works for many years, I felt they were less "musical" than many other etude-type works, Piatti, Franchomme, etc. When I went to Greenhouse, I played my own transcriptions of some Sarasate pieces for my first lesson. He had me working on Popper etudes for the whole of the first semester. I had started playing in several top NYC freelance orchestras at the time, and one of my frequent stand partners was Martin Ormandy (Eugene's younger brother). Martin had auditioned for Popper one spring and was accepted into Popper's class the next fall, but Popper died over the summer. Popper remained core to cello study at the Liszt Academy, so he had a lot of insight into the High School. Through these experiences, I gained a new insight into the purpose of this repertoire. Popper created them to prepare young players for the "music of the future." Remember, Popper had played the premiere of the Brahms F Major with Brahms, and played principal for the Vienna premieres of Wagner operas. There are unplayable passages in Wagner (note the "lohengrin" etude), so Popper wanted to make these things more technically accessible.
That said, there is much to be gained from the more conventional repertoire
I've enjoyed this Irish cello book:
Irish music is a precursor to 'American fiddle' music, so I know it's not exactly what you asked for, but I think you'll find her explanations and the music very similar. It comes with tracks you can play along with and she covers different techniques in detail with examples.
Hmm, what city are you in? Have you called luthiers and bow makers?
Edit: amazon has it in stock and it’s like half the price I usually pay for it! At this price, you could get her the light and dark, pay $4 extra for next day shipping and get it tomorrow!
They’ll gift wrap for a couple bucks too ;-)
Tunable is great!
I recommend going into settings and changing the tone generator soundwave to a sawtooth pattern, much easier to hear intonation.
Despite what it looks like, Squire's Tarantella is actually pretty easy compared to other solo pieces, and still sounds pretty awesome. It's in an easy key with very few accidentals, if any. It's meant to be played pretty fast, but once you play it under tempo to get the notes under your fingers you'll be surprised how awesome it sounds and how easy it is to play fast. Here's a video of it, courtesy of Google.
My brother actually got me a DZ Strad carbon fiber bow for Christmas a couple years back, and I love it. It's my go to over my other wood bows. It is very well balanced, has a nice weight to it, and at the time was like $90.
I just looked it up and the price has jumped significantly though: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00AUHBHQE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_RBBNCX2BYMP3NJQNC7JQ
Many people fail to give bows from Amazon an honest try because string players think that x price = x quality which isn’t really the case. In some cases Amazon Bows can be better than what you’d get if you spent $1,000+ on a bow that doesn’t even really feel good in your hand and was only sold to you because someone threw some fancy words at you. People really shouldn’t spend so much unless they have a really good reason to do so and in my opinion most people don’t.
Here is my recommendation: I’m actually using this one right now. You can check out how it sounds if you look at my profile posts!
VINGOBOW 4/4 Size Black Horsehair Carbon Fiber Cello Bow:
VINGOBOW and D Z Strad are brands that I trust. I’ve only really ever had problems with bows that were cheaper than $50. If you can find something in that range or something a little more expensive it’d be a good find. Experiment and find what works for you with lower risk! :)
Just get a practice mute and play behind a closed door! https://www.amazon.com/Cecilio-Rubber-Cello-Practice-Mute/dp/B07G9R4RFR/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=practice+mute+cello&qid=1610107490&sr=8-6
It's a 12 bucks solution! I literally used to used this when I'd practice at 5 am and not want to wake my parents! The thing is, your electric cello would make about the same amount of noise as a muted cello. And a muted cello sounds just about as different from a normal cello than an electric cello sound...
send your friend this PIC.
it's for this cello case on amazon.
Welcome fellow beginner! A phone tuner is fine honestly. I use this one for Android which I find works well (put it in instrument tuning mode and pick Cello). I'm also a beginner so take this with a grain of salt but this is how I tune. If starting fresh I like to unwind my fine tuners most of the way. Then I start with the C string by turning the C peg while pressing it in firmly. It's more finnicky than you think. I use the pegs to get it at least roughly in the ballpark of the note. Then I use the fine tuner to get it about 90% of the way. Then I go to the next string. You wanna come back and do one last pass on each string as tuning the other strings has an affect on the strings as a whole. It really doesn't have to be perfect to 1hz though
You can tell when they're in tune because each neighbouring string is a fifth apart. So they sound harmonious when they're both in tune. So eventually you can just get A in tune and check the other strings against that one.
Anyway, hope that helps. Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong since I'm also a beginner.
My instructor recommended this set to me, and I've been happy with them:
You can see it's one of many custom sets that folks recommend for cello. Here it is on the gostrings website (non-soloist version):
I got the soloist A string recently and I wish I'd gotten the non-soloist since I only play in an orchestra, and I don't like standing out. It's just a bit too bright for my taste.
Edit: don't wanna click the links? It's just Larsen for the top strings and Spirocore for the lowers.
Since you don't have a teacher use a tuner like tuneable or cleartune and really try to get the needle in the right place. Then get used to what playing in tune is like and what it feels/sounds like.
I'm happy with Andrew over at Andrew's Fine Violins. He's in a much nicer shop now now, the staff is friendly, and it can be an entertaining place to hang out. You never know who you might bump into there.
Here's two from completely different genres that I arranged a while back. I have a lot more elsewhere i can dig up.
fade to black (apocalyptica)
I wiped them all off, because I wanted to practice, but here is a video of one walking on my digital piano. I think it's the same bug.
Not sure if the link works, never used this before. If not, let me know. The camera wouldn't really focus, but then again, it really is just a very tiny white dot moving around so not much to see.
> Do you have the MuseScore software downloaded on a computer? If you do, you can open the composition from the site in the software by clicking “Download” and then “Open in MuseScore.”
And if not, it's free -- https://musescore.org/en/download
Buy one of these: Cello stand amazon and make sure you put the latch over the neck when you put it away.
If you are suffering from long covid I would just take it one day at a time and adjust your expectations. If for you 4 lines is all you can get, then 4 lines is the baseline from where you work from.
get a cello stand like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Peak-Music-Stands-SC-20-Adjustable/dp/B00KBCORLK/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=cello+stand&qid=1627068260&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-4 and make sure it is in a corner/up against a wall so you do not knock it over.
I've been using this for years. There are flashier options with some different materials but I can personally vouch for this working well. Changes the color of the instrument a lot but it's honestly not terrible and can be pretty cool depending on what you're playing
I've got a table top music stand that folds down tiny - saves you having to scrunch your music!
Something like this!
There's a lot of variables. How wide is your repertoire, can you put up youtube videos, a simple website or facebook/twitter feed with quality sound clips for prospective clients, are there venues where you can show up and play for decent numbers of people(open mikes, busking, bluegrass jams etc), can you join other duos/ensembles that play out at weddings, shopping malls, restaurants, can you play amplified, performance rider, yadda yadda.
There's a few books like Beeching "Beyond Talent", look for them in public library:
amazon can suggest lots of other relevant books
Amazon Link https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Tunes-Heard-China-Cello/dp/0793598303/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523472088&sr=8-1&keywords=seven+tunes+heard+in+china&dpID=419qqdLdInL&preST=_SX218_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch#customerReviews
Edited by Yo-Yo. I'm sure I'm a few years away from being able to play these, but thanks again.
I use a Korg TM60-BK combined tuner and metronome. It is nicely compact, runs on a couple of AAA batteries that last for ages, has a backlight and has proven to be accurate enough for my needs. The metronome is also surprisingly full featured with many subdivisions available and the ability to set either an audible beat, or have a light flash to mark the beats.
I’ve used it for nearly a year now and would strongly recommend it to anyone.
KORG TM60-BK Combo Tuner Metronome - Black https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B078C5HCVP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_muoHFbH66FV4G
I would strongly recommend String Builder Book 1. It is easily followed without a teacher, but works great with one as well. Suzuki is good for Material, but it's not great for beginners without a teacher. It's sheet music without the explanation that String Builder has.
Cello Technique is also a great foundation book. It has all the scales and everything you need for technique. Something you'll use for a long time. It has the stuff the RCM will test you on, if you choose to go through their testing.
I'm a big string swing fan, I had my nxt in a regular guitar one, but this one is nicer: https://www.amazon.com/String-Swing-Cello-Hanger-Accessories/dp/B00ICR720E/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=cello+wall+mount&qid=1598370924&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.com/Crescent-Beginner-Cello-Starter-Kit/dp/B00770MKOA Here's a link to some cello starter kits which includes all the essentials (bow, rosin, extra strings, cello stand, etc.) These start at around $280, but keep in mind that the sound quality is going to sound substantially different than a higher priced cello. I would recommend taking lessons, at lest when you're first starting, to learn basic techniques like; bow holding, body position and basic fingering, without knowing these techniques, you are not likely going to improve much. My beginner teacher only charged $20 per lesson so the price is pretty reasonable.
You got great musical tips so far, but there’s some technique you might want to go with it.
I recommend the book “The Irish Cello Book” by Liz Davis Maxfield. Not easy coming from a classical background (from my experience) but it’s a lot of fun and gives you a lot of the same techniques used for American folk music like bluegrass too.
Essential Elements has a technique series that discusses different styles.
As for the other issues, you had over a decade with a teacher. If you are not a professional and manage to keep up with a community orchestra, you probably don't need long-term instruction. That doesn't mean you would not benefit it, but you don't absolutely need it, especially if you are having trouble justifying the expense. You might consider just a few lessons or just seeing if a more-experienced cellist will sit down with you and work out your issues so that you don't hurt yourself when you play.
There are workshops and conferences in the summer (you might have to travel) with speakers who talk about injury prevention as a musician. You might also find Musician's Yoga or Alexander Technique helpful in reducing tension when you play. String Magazine and The Strad both cover these topics from time to time.
There's a book by Mark Yampolsky titled Violoncello Technique that lays out scales, arpeggios, scales in thirds/sixths/octaves/tenths, etc. by key. Each key has slightly different bowings worked in as well to add some variety for the right hand. It's the book you're looking for.
I use my own in ear monitors when I must http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SE215-CL-Isolating-Earphones-MicroDriver/dp/B004PO10E2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1442546262&sr=1-1&keywords=shure+in+ear+monitor , but I hate wearing anything, as it makes intonation more difficult, even when you hear yourself in the mix well. Another excellent choice is to bring your own that an ear can fold up to sit on the side of your head over your ear, like these:
I've played thousands of record dates and movies, and I will usually unplug my cans when I am playing in a live room with the rest of the players. Playing with click, you have no choice...
Some jazz cello resources I've found useful:
John Blake's Jazz Improvisation Made Easy for Cello
This book might be out of print, I couldn't find it on amazon. I picked it up after doing a summer program at Berklee with John Blake. It has good scale exercises, written out solos, and call and response exercises all with a Play-Along CD
Eugene Fresene's Improvisation For Classical Musicians
I took lessons with Eugene for a few years and liked his approach to the cello and improvisation. This book is not just a jazz book, but general guides classical musicians, who my be used to just reading music, toward improvisation.
Chris Azzara Developing Musicianship through Improvisation
I went to Eastman and took a number of classes with Chris Azzara and am convinced that this is the best way to learn to improvise. The focus is on understanding harmony through what some might call ear training. The first book uses simple folk songs as a basis for learning to improvise, but the second the third book get much more advanced and take you all the way through bebop vocabulary.
Hope this is helpful!
Let’s see if I can manage to include a link here…
You’d think they’re just regular, original pegs, looking at the cello. Four separate individual pegs.. so yeah, maybe you can put one in for just a single string… I’m an amateur of several years, & just found out about them like a year ago. There’s a ceiling vent over my cello where heat comes out in winter, but also the single-pane freezing window beside the cello & stand would be affecting it at the same time. I had a string (with a lot of play-life left in it) literally pop out of position & go slack without being touched. I heard it happen from the other side of the room, lol.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005467UHQ?psc=1 for kevlar, I haven't found other kevlar like it since.
The bar is 3d printed PET-G, roughly 60% infill. Unfortunately this material has failed catastrophically on me before, once taking away the top of the bridge clean off! Not too long after this picture I added a 40mm mini-tailpiece (also made out of PET-G) towards the saddle with the purpose of allowing the system some stretch.
I believe a little bit of stretch is needed behind the bridge to prevent whistling from the strings, which was a major problem when using steel strings with the setup pictured.
Just shortly before giving up on gut strings (air is too dry or extremely humid) I switched to a handmade 3.5mm thick aluminum bar curved in the same shape.
I now use a Wittner Ultra tailpiece with no fine tuners and using the included tail-gut for better results. For wolf notes that don't sound I made a clip on low frequency resonator.
All I know is that this isn’t the real album cover, it’s some automatically generated streaming bs. The real album cover looks like this
Still not great, but at least it’s got the player and instrument right.
I bought this a few weeks ago to start experimentally recording without dropping $400 on an interface, mics, xlr cables, etc.
I’m pretty happy with how it captures the cello and its drastic tones and pitches. I would recommend getting a stand like this because it took a lot of adjusting to figure out the best location for the mic. I use the usb connection (it has xlr, too) and record in Ableton so I can still adjust effects, etc.
Problem with fancier mics is you need an interface and things get expensive quickly
I have broken a string or two and it isn’t the end of the world. But just dive in and you will become more comfortable with it. I even loosened my strings so much that my sound post laid down. So of course I had to take it to the string shop and they had to fix that and of course they tuned it. (Yay) but I still tune every time I sit down to practice.
I also bought a tuner called a snark. It helps so much. I play harmonics. And try to see if I can get it. Then play double stops, A + D, D + G, G + C. Then I check everything with my snark. There are lots, but I have something like this in black. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5DB609?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_8CRHM90S6P9402T51A4T
It really helps.
I posted something about an angled endpin option (also worth looking into!) but also tbh, I can't keep my cello from sliding around on anything that's not carpet! If I'm on a wooden floor, I use an endpin anchor like this one https://www.amazon.com/Xeros-1007XC-Endpin-Anchor-Cello/dp/B002Q0WT4M that attaches also to a chair leg. Someone suggested getting a small thick rug that you can put your chair on, that extends far enough in front to stick the end pin into. That's a really good idea and probably the first thing I'd try. Also, this aspect of cello playing is frustrating for all beginners! You'll get the hang of it using one of these tricks. Everyone uses a trick of some sort. Cellos just don't stay in place without them.
I think your main issue is traction. Depending on the floor you play on you'll most likely need a rock stop. There are some without straps but I would really recommend one with a strap. They're cheap and it's a one time purchase. I've had mine for over 15 years at this and while I don't always use it (I'll just use the spike on carpet) if I'm playing on a hard floor it's absolutely necessary.
Here's one on Amazon Rock stop
I have a tall, folding bar stool, that's sturdy, relatively light weight and looks pretty much like this: https://www.amazon.com/Counter-Height-Bar-Stool-Heavy-Duty-Collection/dp/B006H0XEIW/ref=pd_lpo_2?pd_rd_i=B006H0XEIW&psc=1
Unfortunately, at 24" h, it's too tall for me and I really wanted something with a back, so I ended up with an adjustable shower chair, that I picked up for free at a church rummage sale. I had thought of having the stool cut down, but the shower chair is working for me.
Yes, I use the amazon guitar stand for my cello here and it works perfect.
A few of my favourites:
Tarantella (Squire) - looks really impressive, but isn't anywhere near as hard as it looks - and it's a hell of a lot of fun to play
Bloch's Prayer - meant for piano accompaniment, but doesn't really need it. If the return of the theme up the octave frustrates you (as it does me), it sounds fine down the octave
Get a copy of this. Again, meant for piano accompaniment, but doesn't really need it. There's a really nice mix of unusual things in there
Otherwise, keep looking through random internet searches - there are heaps of transcriptions of pop music and movie themes, which make a repertoire much more interesting!
Thank you all for the feedback! I think I will start with the FB group that KiriJazz suggested then maybe try the community orchestra. I have looked at meetup.com but couldn't find a similar group. There is one but it is for more advanced musicians.
Looks like this: https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Durable-Cello-Bridge-Natural/dp/B0924DNKK8/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1U5A18TWC0LSP&keywords=Portable+and+Durable+4%2F4+Wood+Cello&qid=1640564711&sprefix=portable+and+durable+4%2F4+wood+cello%2Caps%2C72&sr=8-3
I thought this Harvey book looked nice and is designed for solo cello so makes more use of double stops etc. Not super advanced but I think it sounds full
> Alternatively, if anyone could educate me on how to make sheet music for this song (or how cellists create covers for non-classical music in general) so I can play it on my own when I get my own cello.
Step 1 - ear training. (Technically that's literally what all music is - but I digress)
Step 1.5 - lern 2 reed sheet music
Step 2 - learn to use MuseScore.
Step 3 - use your ears to place the right notes at the right spots.
Also, if you're familiar with MIDI in the context of DAW software, you could do it in MIDI 'piano-roll' layout and import the MIDI into MuseScore to get workable sheet music. Still need the ear training to do that, though, but it's more beginner-friendly than sheet music to a degree.
If you're willing to pay for the time, I could take a stab at making the sheet music.
The Phantom of the Opera: Instrumental Solos for Cello https://www.amazon.com/dp/1423454162/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_KHX6MMJ6B0EQK6KQS43A?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
The Artino Mute is a fantastic alternative and it’s at a much lower price point on Amazon. I use it in my apartment and have had 0 neighbor complaints.
Amazon has some decent bows for $50. They aren't like professional quality, but they make for good practice bows. I have one. I have no idea how people are breaking theirs after like 3 to 6 months though, according to the reviews. Mine is like a year old. But honestly, if it breaks, I'll just buy another, but I'm the kind of person who keeps $10 gas station sunglasses in good condition for years.
VINGOBOW 4/4 Size Black Horsehair Carbon Fiber Cello Bow https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JLZ8YRQ/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_WNTC7583TTTM3WGQPH38
D’Addario Varigrip Hand Exerciser–Improve Dexterity and Strength in Fingers, Hands, Forearms- Adjust Tension Per Finger– Simulated Strings Help Develop Calluses- Comfortable Conditioning https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001OCGGEM/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_ZTQZ8GC1F49VFAVT69G9
Thats the hand exerciser i have fyi. I keep it with me, and use it just kind of randomly throughout the day while I'm working.
There's a fantastic series of books that covers string players in general called "The Way They Play", edited by S. Applebaum. They are interviews with famous string players, biographies, notes on technique, the whole gamut. I couldn't find a full set (of 15?) anywhere, but you could maybe just pick up one or two volumes cheaply to see if you liked them. They are all chock full of great insights, and here's a link to them on abebooks.
This violin arrangement sounds pretty accurate, and looks like it could be transposed to bass clef. I wouldn't be able to transpose and arrange it myself until at least this weekend if you're not able to do it or go by ear yourself.
I've been playing off and on for about 10 years now as an adult, and I still use them. I don't play enough to really develope good intonation by skill alone, I need the visual cue, or I don't sound good, lol.
I've made them look good though, I use chrome striping tape, so they are nice and shiny:)
A cello ornament might do:
Maybe this one or this one. despite its name it looks appropriate .
I had the same struggle trying to find a recital/concert dress. So when my seamstress aunt asked my father (I was 13-14 at the point) if she could do anything for us, he answered “make her a dress”… that was our solution. I feel your pain. I assume you’ve looked through the rest of the linked website? Have you tried calling the company to see what their widest skirt dress is?
I used the term maxi dress to find those results btw. Most are designed to be floor length and flowy.
You can buy the 111 Amazing Classical Cello album on Amazon for 99 cents. That's 111 seperate tracks for 99 cents, download as MP3 or streaming.
This is the music stand I use
I don’t have a violin but it comes with accessories and a bow holder, and it folds up nice and comes with a bag
Klvied Sheet Music Stand with Violin Hanger, Folding Music Stand, Portable Fortable Music stand for Sheet Music, Violin Music Stand with Travel Case, Light, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H327YVB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_75ZBDR0FBFV58SQJ9DJZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is how I store my main bow. I also use a guitar stand from AmazonBasics to hold my cello. It works well for me.
Another resource is Second Position for the Cello, which has exercises for shifting with every finger, half steps and whole steps, on every string. For each exercise, there’s a short song to practice and those are great little melodies
It happens! It's a wooden box, the wood changes over time. Luckily wolf tones are really easy to mitigate. These work but I recommend the Krentz modulator. I have had one for years and it works very well.
I use Pirastro cello rosin:
It's been great! First lesson with my professional teacher, he looked at it and said "Wow, that's really nice rosin!". I told him I had researched it. I bought it in 2016 and it's still been fantastic.
I am using Alice A803 strings which I just put 2 days ago.
Link to Alice A803 Strings
Amazon has a Cecilio for $450US. https://www.amazon.com/Cecilio-CECO-1BK-Metallic-Electric-Fittings/dp/B007ESVCR6/ref=sr\_1\_6?dchild=1&keywords=electric+cello+with+headphones&qid=1627845332&sr=8-6
I’ve had this one for years and I really like it. I would buy a mute that is rubberized on the outside in case it falls off, if you decide to go for a different one.
I take lessons from a member of the Louisville orchestra. This is the cello she had me to buy. It works great so far. I'm sure your more expensive one will be great....but just a suggestion if you want to save money.
To be clear, this one right here?
Zoom A1 FOUR Acoustic Instrument Multi-Effects Processor Pedal, Acoustic Modeling, Looper, Rhythm Section, For Guitar, Saxophone, Trumpet, Violin, Harmonica, and Upright Bass https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YGQVXYS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_P70DNNMAFK0150HVFGWV
I spent some time searching, because I had a decently protective foam case that was at least better than a bag when I needed a case originally that was right on the $200 mark. However, it seems to have been discontinued, which doesn't surprise me because while protective the straps and wheels were awful.
However, you get what you pay for right?
Anyways, I couldn't find anything substantial for less than $200. The closest I could get was this https://www.amazon.com/Crossrock-CRA862CEFSL-Molded-Wheels-Silver/dp/B07W1ZWBXW/ref=pd_sbs_3?pd_rd_w=T1oLt&pf_rd_p=2419a049-62bf-452e-b0d0-ca5b7e35a7b4&pf_rd_r=1WTHWZZY4EKAYJZKYNMM&pd_rd_r=6226fe05-a885-4ccd-8bdf-b81fd2a2d0b1&pd_rd...
Which I have no experience with and looks to me like one of those cases that has a hard exterior but it may be thinner material.
Cases are unfortunately expensive because they're big and use a lot of molded materials. I went with an Eastman Hard Case, because it was the "budget" option compared to BAM and other more expensive cases at the time. I wish I hadn't though because the exterior flakes off easily and it is pretty heavy and eventually you do get tired of that. However, the way it was explained to me was.
lighter, but protective = more $$$
equally protective but heavy = less $$$
Lighter but less $$$ = Cut costs on protection and thickness
Just food for thought, I know what it is like to be on a budget.
I use Andrea
And now if you would like to learn how to play celtic (well, Irish technically) music:
I bought it a few months ago. It's kind of textbook-ish in parts, but it comes with play along tracks which have been great!
Try this one
I have the older version (tm40) and it's pretty dang loud. Has a headphone jack as well.
I recently ordered this set on Amazon and they’re the same quality as my previous set bought directly from a music store. If you’re willing to spend a bit more, it may be worth investing in premium A and D strings — Pirastro Evah Pirazzi is my go-to but have heard great things about Larsen as well. Enjoy the new strings!
The Peak stand I’ve used works great for home and portability. Its able to handle multiple spiral books and collapses to something easy to transport.
Peak Music Stands Portable Music Stand Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EPVXWU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_XTQAN7BGQC6D1C1BTJH4
I have this 30-dollar, Yamaha-branded, adjustable, folding bench that I'm very happy with and I'm surprised it's back in stock; it's been out forever since I got in 2019; it's Amazon's #1 keyboard bench.
Well, I don't know that I've ever 'finished a series of method books', but I have been working through an Irish Cello book that's been super fun!
My daughter has used her PageFlip Butterfly reliably for a few years now in multiple youth orchestras, school, and solo performances -- for cello and for piano.
Also, the ForScore app is the 100% best thing going for managing/annotating/reading scores on the iPad. (I think it's like $15, but well worth it. Even has some built in tools that come in handy, like a tuner, metronome, etc.)
If you really want to go all out, get the Apple Pencil that goes with her iPad so she can just pick it up and mark notes right on the screen
I use ForScore, which is great. It does have an turn option using head or eye movements, but I use it with a iRig pedal
IK Multimedia iRig BlueTurn Bluetooth Page Turner for iOS and Android https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01C5RZWM6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_dlC_AiE0FbBYDXMPX
I’ve tried a lot of different options, Realistic Pickup, Shure microphones, etc.
The absolutely most bang for my buck has come from Audio-Technical condenser microphone:
Audio-Technica AT4040 Cardioid Condenser Microphone https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002D0BQ8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_yOaXFbHGCHCA0
It captures with amazing fidelity over the frequency range of the cello.
Best cheap strings I've used $91 for a set https://www.amazon.com/Jargar-Cello-String-Set-Size/dp/B002DPB2K2/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=jargar+cello+strings&qid=1606598203&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-6
check around though prices vary quite a bit
I'm not entirely sure what you are asking, from high to low the nes of the strings are A,D,G,C. The quality of the strings have a pretty dramatic impact on the sound you can produce from the instrument. Here is a link to the cheapest set I would consider amazon strings
I really wouldn't recommend them and if you could afford to step up and get something more like this I would do it. These will do in a pinch, a lot of it comes down to the personal preference of the player. I like larsen magnacore strings for my A and D, but prefer heavier Spirocore for my G, and C. If she's new I would definitely not recommend Tungsten core strings. Some people like them others don't for me I find thqt despite the long break in I love how they sound on my Cello and are worth the time investment. Hope this helps!
I use this. My only complaint is that my endpin has scratched off most of the coloring in the middle, but I'm not really upset about it.
Yep. Just make sure you have the appropriate cable. You'll need one that fits your cello (usually 1/8") to the amp input which is 1/4", like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083R58TLJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabt1_m7cRFb18FGJP4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Knowing when to shift is something that comes through practice - I'd recommend using a book like Position Pieces that will help you to get more comfortable shifting, and you'll start to recognise the different positions and when you need to move. And you can always mark in fingerings and positions in on your part in pencil - everyone does it!
For the first movement, I would just transcribe it by ear (although I would recommend using this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULECHHzjGU4) version because the two parts are equally loud and easier to make out).Personally I just learned it by ear, but it wasn't for a serious concert or an evaluated performance (in which case I would have bought the sheet music).
Edit: You also can buy a copy on amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Shostakovich-Pieces-Violins-Piano-Sikorski/dp/B00006M1DG) or pretty much any sheet music website by looking up "Five pieces for two violins and piano by Shostakovich"
Yes, build calluses faster. They make finger exercisers for guitar players that have a rough texture on one side ,that approximates strings. In the link the soft grey cover is removable and can go over the finger pistons, exposing the rough side and you just hold it reversed. They don't advertise it very well in that amazon listing but it has it. Gripping and pressing on that a few minutes a day builds them up quick.
If you happen to have an acoustic guitar laying around, I can also verify 100% that no other instrument on the planet is as hard on the fingers, and builds calluses quite quickly.
According to my cello teacher you want a few things in an amp:
An acoustic amp for traditional sound. (If going for more rock music get an electric guitar amp)
Atleast 10 inches so you get the full bodied sounds.
Quality, reputable brand.
He had meI get this one. And I really like it! I also have the Yamaha 110. You will also need a 1/4 inch to 1/4 inch cable to plug it into your cello.
So a slightly different endpin perspective (and random piece of information). Chair height and posture are definitely two variables that can cause some variation to the endpin length, but for some females a third variable of undergarment choice that impacts how the cello sits on their chest can influence endpin length too. It can be a fun game in a new chair of where does my endpin need to be set for me to be able to play well.
More so than any of the other non-fretted stringed instruments, hand size and the spread of your fingers can play a huge role in what size cello you end up playing. For example, I’m 5’5” which height wise combined with my long arms is considered well within the 4/4 range for cello size. However my left hand? Index finger tip to pinkie finger tip I max out at 5”, and that is really overstretching my hand in an unhealthy way. I just do not have a good reach. I still play a 4/4 cello, but I have to do a lot more shifting than most people on a similar sized cello to be able to reach notes. And for the record cello sizing is not standard (though more standard than viola), so there can be a a range in the instrument size within a size class. A lot of older 4/4 cellos are a bit smaller than more modern 4/4 cellos. With my small hand span I will in all likelihood look at 3/4 and 7/8 when I go to upgrade in a year or two here to make my life easier and make playing cello more sustainable for me.
As far as stops go for my endpin, I like ones like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LLV6CY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_12zyFb5GZDH36
I used these playing bass and they worked great, and I like how they work on my cello too. I’ve tried the ones that attach to your chair and I just cannot get them where I want them and I feel like my movement gets overly restricted to keep the endpin secure on the stop.
I haven’t had a cello string snap on me yet, but growing up I did have a bass string snap on me. Scared the living daylights out of me. Do not recommend.
I suggest that you get a wall mount that locks once the cello is in, since they're such expensive instruments, it just avoids unfortunate accidents. I use the Hercules wall mount for my electric cello and I find it really secure.
Until you want to graduate to a larger amp, just get one of these. Plug it into the NS, and plug your headphones into the Amplug...
VOX AP2BS amPlug 2 Guitar/Bass Headphone Amplifier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NAUKJTY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_O75gFbM4E1TWF
Looks great, and seems definitely like a step up from the previous setup! Many happy hours of cello time on it.
/u/pgoodye1, I had also upped my game with this similar https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I362NXU/ that was $30 a year ago but seems currently sold out to a degree that it's being sold by third parties there at over $100, but if you don't mind Amazon, you can also look at the "You may also like" items on that page, to get some ideas if nothing else. Hope this helps.
Get a rock stop, adjust you enpin, on my cello there was a rubber piece over the end of the enpin under that was a spike I removed that
Here’s a amazon link to my rock stop I use
The Original Slipstop Endpin Rest for Cello - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FCQLA6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_YUNFEbWJWX8BN
So i am only using the tuner app. I do have a piano at home but i am only tuning with that when i play with my mom (she plays piano). At my music school we tune with 442 or 443hz. I prefer 443.
I got this app :
From my experience, any kind of "donut" rock stop is going to have a hard time staying put. They have betrayed me too many times for me to trust them ever again.
I have had something like this for over ten years and it's never let me down: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BKR9FSP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_M2xDDbAD4QST3
I also have a carabiner clip attached to the loop part in case I ever perform some place that doesn't have chairs with legs that can go in that loop.
Admittedly this style of endpin anchor takes some getting used to, but once I adjusted to it, I couldn't go back to anything else.
I just purchased a Travelite TL-20 Deluxe Cello Case - 4/4 Size https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0052M1C1C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_AJG5Cb6CZNZ8Y. It’s a fair price for what it is. It’s harder than a gig bag but not a solid as a hard shell case. It’s what I could afford. It has an inside compartment, 2 bow holders, and a sheet music pocket on the back. You can also decide to attach the backpack straps that come with it.
We've been happy with our Rode VideoMic, which plugs into the headphone jack. It's durable, simple to use, and small. Now that I have an iPhone X, I've lost my headphone jack, however, so there's that, unfortunately.
You could look into a VPN, which basically makes it look like your're from a different country to the websites you visit. Private Internet Access (PIA) is good but it's $7 per month, I'm not sure if I want to renew my subscription just to listen to this.
Don't Fret Finger Position Markers for Cello 4/4 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0037LLG2A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_W2WcCbX10M257
Game changer ☝️. Will help with basic 1st,2nd, and 3rd fingers.
Practice 1 scale, and only one (C, G, or D, major). Watch for bad habits (pancake wrist, and claw grabben [TM] ). After you learn 1 scale, noodle around with those notes.
Go and shred Tobin(idk your name). Shred.
FWIW, We picked up one of these, which is not as good as the realist but has allowed my daughter to loop, and has come in handy at a few live performances. She keeps it in all the time, but it is easy to remove, as it wedges into the bridge spaces and includes shims. Not as fancy or permanent, but an option.
I’m not sure but I use dedicated string cleaner
yess it’s so important. my first cello teacher moved and instead of finding a new teacher i went years without taking lessons trying to “self-teach” myself. i was so frustrated trying to figure out why i wasn’t sounding any better— it was all my form, and when i started taking lessons again my teacher helped me get back on the right track
also i want to recommend this book. the etudes are as useful to practice as scales but they’re more fun and they sound prettier!
I've found this one https://www.amazon.com/Rosin-Violin-Viola-Cello-Light/dp/B010CG2XHE in my city.. dude told me that is superior, what do you think?