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This write-up came from a university project I completed about missing people from my home state of Kansas. If you have Kindle Unlimited, it's available for free. The book has around 30 write-ups like this.

Mods, if this isn't allowed, please delete my comment haha. Just thought I would source where this came from.

https://www.amazon.com/Missing-People-Kansas-Stories-Disappeared-ebook/dp/B07NYGTM6H

Reminds me of this book I read about a woman who espoused starvation as a medical treatment in Washington state:

In 1911 two wealthy British heiresses, Claire and Dora Williamson, arrived at a sanitorium in the forests of the Pacific Northwest to undergo the revolutionary “fasting treatment” of Dr. Linda Burfield Hazzard. It was supposed to be a holiday for the two sisters, but within a month of arriving at what the locals called Starvation Heights, the women underwent brutal treatments and were emaciated shadows of their former selves.

That is to say, I wonder if some "professional" told them this was a good idea, what they needed to do in order to "get better", etc.

That is insane, but you were absolutely right to listen to your fear and act on it. If you haven’t read The Gift Of Fear I highly recommend it. Your situation sounds like one he would cover. So scary

It's counting down to the time he accidentally clicked an adware button that brought him to a page where they put a free countdown timer on your website. http://www.timeanddate.com/clocks/freecountdown.html

Forrest Fenn’s hidden treasure

NPR article

Vox article

Thank you! I actually have written a book about this.

And I have to say- you write beautifully! Your words are so descriptive and compelling! I kept wanting to read more.

Thank you for this and I agree completely with what you're saying about this mystery. It's so difficult to decipher.

21 is a boxed set of books called The Great Fairy Tales Treasure Chest III, published in 1991(?) by Tormont Publications, ISBN 978-2894290033

Evidence: https://www.amazon.com/Great-Fairy-Tales-Treasure-Chest/dp/2894290039

Edit: It is the German version of that book, Die große Märchen-Schatztruhe https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/4j8AAOSwoj9bAuIZ/$_72.JPG

i have friends that hike a lot all over the US, and one of them is ex military, and he highly recommended a satellite SOS/communicator device if you were planning a hike like she did; especially, if you are not that experienced. Here's an example of one on amazon:

Garmin GPSMAP 66i, GPS Handheld and Satellite Communicator, Featuring TopoActive mapping and inReach Technology

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S5GK8NL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_6STE47ZNM9JHHQ47SC78

also, update your life insurance and will before you go

There is definitely a creep factor involved that has nothing to do with height/size. Some guys just exude it. In the book The Gift of Fear the author talks about subtle hints that your subconscious picks up on. Innocent guys just walking the path don't throw out any of those vibes, although women are wise to be cautious whenever or wherever.

I'm not sure if this is remotely helpful, but that's Walmart brand mouthwash in one photo... https://www.walmart.com/ip/Equate-Antiseptic-Mouthrinse-Blue-Mint-101-4-fl-oz-2-Count/40720661

ETA: and another bottle is Suave Men's Body Wash https://www.amazon.com/Suave-Mens-Refreshing-Splash-Body/dp/B00NZTCXX0

> said like 1/3 - 1/2 of all suicides have multiple gun shot wounds

This is not even close to being true. From Wikipedia: Multiple gunshot suicides are rare, but possible. In one study of 138 gunshot suicides, 5 (3.6%) involved two shots to the head, the first of which missed the brain.

I am reading a book about JonBenet Ramsey’s murder where the author was given access to police files, etc. For the longest time I thought that the DNA evidence in her case was so scant that it was worthless but in this book it appears that the profile is strong enough to incriminate or eliminate someone. This book is an eye opener for me. There are so many things that most people, including me think we know that are actually false. Anyway, my point was that maybe her case can be solved this way but I’m not sure the BPD could get it together enough to send the sample.

Edit/ link to the book

https://www.amazon.com/We-Have-Your-Daughter-Unsolved/dp/1632260778

Here's a clear one. (That's an Amazon link, so don't click if you don't want more suggested to you.) That'd look great on anyone's bookshelf next to all the other conversation starters.

Fun fact... An organization called the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS) did a study on cattle mutilation in the 90s. They concluded that it was most likely being done clandestinely in order to monitor our cattle supply for prions.

Now, who knows right, but yeah.. learned about prions after that. Fucking terrifying.

Edit: I think this is it

Wow, this is heartbreaking. It seems as though the older brother was the target and it was the rest of his family that paid dearly. A child with autism may have well been overwhelmed by the sensory experience and acute anxiety of a house fire and thus been unable to jump to safety. How awful that his mother thought she could cushion his fall. If you live on a higher floor it's not a bad idea to invest in a fire ladder, especially if you have little ones.

Here! You just stick them onto a door or window frame and they go off if the two magnetic parts are separated. They're seriously SUPER loud.

Injury and/or infection seem like safe bets. I highly doubt he "went native" (ugh, colonial-era racism) or set up a cult. The jungle is extraordinarily dangerous and the insect problem is probably what got them in the end. I read David McCullough's The Path Between the Seas about the building of the Panama Canal, and it's estimated that over 27,000 workers died from malaria and yellow fever. Three guys alone in the Amazon with rudimentary protection would probably perish very quickly.

IIRC the book's titled Why Johnny Can't Tell Right From Wrong by William Kirkpatrick (which I just saw downthread you spotted, sorry!) and everything I can find about it suggests it's a general "kids these days" conservative piece about the need for education reform, not actually about what to do when one of your children is doing bad things. (The name is a riff on Rudolf Flesch's Why Johnny Can't Read, a book advocating educational reform of a different kind.) To quote from its Amazon description:

>A hard-hitting and controversial book, WHY JOHNNY CAN'T TELL RIGHT FROM WRONG will not only open eyes but change minds. America today suffers from unprecedented rates of teenage pregnancy, drug abuse, suicide, and violence. Most of the programs intended to deal with these problems have failed because, according to William Kilpatrick, schools and parents have abandoned the moral teaching they once provided.

In general the books listed (including one by the guy from Focus On The Family!) suggest more that the family was politically/socially conservative, which is consistent with their religious stance to me, rather than being serious self-help books for disturbed children. It doesn't mean Burke (or JonBenet) couldn't have been disturbed or acting out, but I don't think the books are all they were made out to be. The feces seem like a more likely sign of some kind of disturbance to me.

I read a book about her, The Blue Tattoo: The Life of Olive Oatman. Her story is fascinating.

The biggest thing that convinced me she didn't want to be "rescued" by her brother was that she and her younger sister received facial tattoos - which meant that they were adopted into the Mohave tribe. Tattoos were optional in their culture. So, choosing to receive the tattoos tells me they were consenting to becoming part of that tribe. She wasn't raised by the tribe that took her hostage, either (Yavapai, of the Apache nation). She and her sister were traded a year after her family was killed to the Mohave people, who didn't keep captive slaves; their prisoners of war and captives were integrated into the tribe as new members, even into families, like Olive and her sister were. She spent 10 years with her Mohave family, if I remember correctly. Her sister unfortunately got sick and died shortly before her brother rounded up some troops and "rescued" her.

Here is a link to the doc "The Thread" on Netflix that chronicles the witch hunt on Reddit into the Boston Marathon Bombers. It forced the CEO of Reddit to issue a formal apology. This is why certain forums make me extremely uncomfortable with the way they "investigate" cases.

ETA: Link for people who want to know more and/or don't have Netflix.

I've found a few in other countries.

At least 9 gay men have been murdered in recent years in South Africa. The killer is alledged to have met the victims online and kills them after being invited into their homes.

15 sex workers have been murdered in Rwanda since 2012

Can highly recommend the book Unsolved Disappearances in the Great Smoky Mountains. It details many cases, two of which were likely solved during the research for the book, and several which remain a mystery. My favorite case is about a little boy found frozen to a in the forest and was buried by kind strangers. His identity was revealed after 60 years. Turned out his father beat him frequently and he ran away in the cold of winter. His mother had heard that he was found, but thought if she spoke up people would want her to pay for his burial costs. He was thought to be very young, but he was very small for his age, likely due to being under nourished.

There is so much about this case that doesn't make sense, but I can answer about the boat. The boat was found two days after the boys went missing. The coast guard searched it (it was upside down) but said the boys were not on board, and there were a few life vests in the boat. They attached a buoy and left, because the waters were still rough. When a salvage company arrived 12 hours later, the buoy had become detached and the boat couldn't be found.

There was a rumor that the boat was seen on a flatbed trailer on the interstate late that same night, but that was pure speculation that fueled even more conspiracy theories.

The boat was found again, maybe a month or two later. A man took photos, called the coast guard and gave them the coordinates, and when the CG arrived the boat was gone again. The boat was found in March (I think) by a cargo ship. They pulled it out of the water and found the cell phone. They shipped the boat back to Florida.

All of this is in the report done by FWC. That report is super frustrating. The man who started it was "voluntarily demoted" during the investigation (I think that was the phrase) and then quit FWC altogether. The investigators didn't really try to talk to the boys' friends. And one lady had called the coast guard the day the boys went missing, claiming she saw two boys on a boat in distress. She called back again and said that another boat was seen pulling in close to them. But when the investigators talked to her more, she confessed that she made up the part about seeing a second boat because she was angry that no one from the CG had called her back.

https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/310399181/Pamela-Cohen-v-Florida-Fish-and-Wildlife-Conservation-Commission-Carly-Black-and-William-Blu-Stephanos

The brutality and suddenness of this crime reminds me of Terri Jentz’s true crime memoir, *Strange Piece of Paradise.” She was biking across the US with a friend from college.

One night, as they slept in a tent, a man ran over their tent and then attacked them with an axe.

https://www.amazon.com/Strange-Piece-Paradise-Terri-Jentz/dp/0374134987

Once Mary entered the system as a prisoner she DID have people that cared about her. Cries Unheard is a pretty comprehensive book re: Mary. There were people that she came in contact with in the places where she was kept that tried to help her to the best of their ability. By and large, Mary's life wasn't "perfect" after she got out but it definitely wasn't as bad as Jon Venables. I think that their experiences on the inside were different. He was tossed in there to fend for himself while Mary had one or two people actually attempt to help her over time.

https://www.amazon.com/Cries-Unheard-Children-Kill-Story/dp/0805060677/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1533676590&sr=8-3&keywords=Mary+Bell&dpID=51PGEJEWMFL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch

The permanent corpse stain on the floor in the Ridges Asylum.

Has an interesting story behind it. Not sure how true it is, but apparently the stain has been tested and it was indeed caused by a body.

http://www.weirdus.com/states/ohio/abandoned/ridges_asylum/

https://roadtrippers.com/stories/ohios-most-haunted-insane-asylum-has-a-permanent-corpse-shadow?lat=40.80972&lng=-96.67528&z=5

No surprise I'd answer like this, but I think Casey Anthony is innocent of murder. I think Caylee drowned because Casey spend the day playing on the computer and just wasn't watching her.

Also, doing a free ebook giveaway for the next couple days if anyone wants my book :-)

I'm just going to throw this out there -- but they may not have even needed to hotwire anything. It used to be very common for construction equipment at a site to all be keyed the same. You did not want a multi-thousand-dollar-an-hour project to grind to a stop because someone dropped the keys to the crane in a hole -- and no one wanted to dig though 400 keys to find the right key for a given machine. In fact, at one point most manufactures defaulted to the same key for ALL of their equipment -- no matter who they sold it to. Some still do.

It was not really a problem because the work sites were secured -- and it would be hard to steal the big equipment anyway, especially if its too large to travel on a typical street, and requires special training to use.

I read this amazing book last year about death fraud called <em>Playing Dead</em> by Elizabeth Greenwood, which extensively covers John Darwin. The author actually spent (IIRC) a couple weeks with Darwin, talking to him about how (and why) he did it, how he got caught, and the collateral damage of his decision.

I highly recommend it to anyone who's interested in cases where people fake their own deaths or voluntarily disappear to start a new life.

around one week ago The Generation Why Podcast released episode about this disappearance link. Won't believe she left with 15 y/o and they didn't contact anyone, especially her own daughter. After they went missing - whole redecoration, painting the house, burning furnitures (!) and replacing CCTV ... The husband sounds so guilty. Hope he didn't outsmarted the police and LE will find something on him.

This isn't a mystery, but it kind of amazed me. http://en.akinator.com/

For the computer literate : clever little database checking answers against questions to define the correct field.

For the non computer literate : Psychic virtual genie freakishly guesses who you're thinking of.

Its just corrected guessed : Mary Poppins, Scott of the Antartic, Michael Caine, Ghengis Khan, Rasputin, Arthur Dent, Joan of Arc, Abraham Lincoln and Thomas the tank engine. I can't beat it I give up now.

There've been a few people (as in seven, I believe) who claimed to have experienced a time slip in a popular street in Liverpool. I thought it was quite interesting that one of them was a police officer.

> One of the ways the Nazis were able to quickly identify Jews is through Germany's census.

And it probably didn't occur to many people in Germany that a census would be a bad thing that could be used as a tool for evil. It almost certainly didn't occur to anyone that IBM punchcard technology would play a role in anything like the Holocaust. Yet it did. Just because we're unable to imagine exactly how DNA will be used decades down the road doesn't mean we should shrug this off. There's been a pretty consistent pattern throughout history where a hell of a lot of technology and science that's benign in the abstract is used for bad purposes.

Did you read the biography on the lead detective on the case? https://www.amazon.com/JonBenet-Inside-Ramsey-Murder-Investigation/dp/1250054796

Gives a great account of how the whole investigation was derailed and the course of justice perverted. Mainly by the parents and their intense legal maneuvering, stalling etc

I agree - that was no one-time murder. But I also agree that getting definitive proof at this point is unlikely.

I just read Black Dahlia, Red Rose maybe two months ago. It had an interesting thesis but I'm still on the fence.

The person you're replying to did actually write a book on the topic, linked above: https://www.amazon.com/Death-Nine-Dyatlov-Pass-Mystery-ebook/dp/B07MSFVWS5/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1548951201&amp;sr=8-4&amp;keywords=dyatlov+pass

I have no idea.

There is not a single suspect for whom I can assert on the balance of probabilities that they were the killer - nobody is even near that. So a civil case, never mind a criminal case, would fail.

I have read quite a bit on the case and, in my opinion, The Complete History of Jack the Ripper by Philip Sugden is the only Jack the Ripper book worth reading.

I think the letters are fake. They are just too melodramatic.

You're way off base about missing white woman syndrome. There are multiple studies (link 1, link 2) that compared news coverage to FBI statistics and found that African American missing people are underrepresented in the media. Missing white woman syndrome is a newer term, but the studies are already showing that the idea is based in reality:

>This study ... uses both national and local data to establish grounds for the claim that Missing White Woman Syndrome is an empirical fact for abductees of all ages.

It's naive and self-serving to deny institutional racism.

As of now, no. It was available on YouTube a few months ago but has since been removed. Last I’ve heard, Melanie Perkins has said that she was working on getting film streaming sources such as Netflix to host the documentary and that it should be more widely available soon.

Edit: It is available for purchase on Amazon if anyone is interested in buying a copy:

https://www.amazon.com/Have-Seen-Andy-Melanie-Perkins/dp/B001GQ3ECI

Every time I read about a pregnant woman disappearing I am reminded that murder is the leading cause of death in pregnant women.

According to Kentucky's Cabinet for Health and Family Services, there are no restrictions on who can request a birth certificate. It'll cost Mr. Dennis $10 and take up to 30 working days (6 weeks).

As far as the info he needs to supply... Article text:

>[M]en opened the door to a telephone booth one cold, January morning in 1954 and discovered a cooing baby

>[...]

>The couple was traveling through Ohio from Kentucky, where he was born in a hospital. They were on their way back to Maryland when the father took the baby and left him in a phone booth.

Facts:

• He appeared to be 2 months old when he was found, so he was born in late 1953
• He was born in a hospital in Kentucky

Kentucky Vital Records Genealogy:

>Beginning 1 January 1911, Kentucky again required the registration of births and deaths. Registration was generally complied with by 1917.

FamilySearch has a Kentucky birth index for 1911-1995; Ancestry.com has a Kentucky birth index for 1911-1999.

So given his parents' names, he should be able to look up his birth info today, then order his birth certificate.

I've heard that as well, and we know Kirk Douglas has been accused of at least one crime, one that is relevant to the discussion if it's true.

Great book by Bill James (sports writer who happens to be an excellent writer, period) called Popular Crime: Reflections on the Celebration of Violence has an interesting theory. All in all I cannot recommend this book highly enough to a fellow crime devotee.

But James describes a convincing scenario involving an intruder whose main goal was to hurt the father, John Ramsey.
Anything credible I've read points to a person outside the family. Parents like the Ramseys don't suddenly go from normal people to sadistic child murderers or crime concealment experts overnight.

And seriously, if your child, accidentally or not, kills your other child is your best idea really going to be, "I'll hide our dead daughter's naked body, you write a ransom note making this look like a secret group's foreign kidnapping plot!"

Now if James is correct in his theory then killer was nearby/remotely surveying the Ramseys, and/or listening to a police scanner, waiting to collect the ransom.
And by 9:30 a.m. Ramsey had arranged with the bank to get the $118,000. If the police had not been called to the house the murderer may have gotten the money, though money may not have been the primary motivator.

At any rate it is a fascinating case likely to cause eternal debate.

E: Spelling errors

I can’t think of anyone else who was so successful in mathematics, philosophy and linguistics - that’s a rare combination. I found a little bit more about him: http://texts.cdlib.org/view?docId=hb6h4nb3q7&amp;doc.view=frames&amp;chunk.id=div00028&amp;toc.depth=1&amp;toc.id=

I found a third novel inspired by this murder - The Semantics of Murder by Aifric Campbell. https://www.amazon.com/Semantics-Murder-Aifric-Campbell/dp/1846687330

Thank you for posting this!

Your post instantly reminded of that Dixie Chicks song “Goodbye Earl”

One that I can think of off hand is Donald Harvey the Angel of Death

If you get a chance to, watch the Netflix documentary Atari: Game Over which documents the attempt to uncover the dumped game cartridges and shows the recovered items. It's a fascinating watch to see a urban legend become fully realized and probably one of the few times you will ever see it happen.

It is! Imagine being inside that thing when the waves are hitting it...shudder...

The case reminds me of a recent book by Richard Chizmar called Widow's Point. I wonder if this haunted lighthouse partly inspired the novel-? Gorgeous wraparound dust jacket , regardless.

I'm reading a book on her right now called "Hells Princess" Amazon very well written, some good photos and covers not only the story but the history of the town, current demographics, other possible motives, newspaper clippings...

She was a brute of a women and very strong. In a rush to find someone to blame, her former helper, an uneducated labor worker named Lamphere whom she had many run-ins with was tried for being the actual murderer, saying he killed them and burned down the house to get even with her. Besides that, long after her death, reports of her being seen were very common. If I recall they did eventually find some of Belle's teeth in the basement with (very unique bridge work.) The farm itself was turned into a carnival type atmosphere, people coming from all over to gawk and purchase nick knacks supposedly related to Belle.

I've not finished the book so I don't know yet what happens to the case against Lamphere.

good stuff - have you read this:

Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon : Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & The Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream https://www.amazon.co.uk/Weird-Scenes-Inside-Canyon-Laurel/dp/1909394122/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&amp;psc=1&amp;refRID=8MF8VGD7GH35NGD0DW7P

Side note: Machiavelli didn't fake his own death. This is a common misconception originating from a strategy he wrote about in his book "Art of War" (not to be confused with Sun Tzu's "The Art of War") for a prince to fake his own death and use this an advantage against his enemies.

To answer your question, Tupac. /s

The terrain on that trial is challenging and can be very dangerous if its raining. There are steep drop offs as you hike, and can get slippery. There are deep canyons and impenetrable jungle.

In May the found a woman who had been wandering the jungle for 2 weeks after just walking a few yards into the jungle and getting turned around.

The 'rumours persist' is easy to write, but makes no sense here. They'd have to fly off the island and there would be a record of that. If they lived on the island, someone would have put 2 and 2 together over the past 30 years. The full time population on Kauai is small.

They fell, or got lost. Mount Waialeale has more rain fall than anywhere else on the planet and this is the terrain.

Like a lot of people here, I first heard about the Alcatraz escape through Mythbusters, where they hypothesized and then demonstrated that the escapees could have used the currents to their advantage to make landfall on the Marin Headlands rather than Angel Island.

I also have a book, published in 2005, that put a lot of their early myths into print, including the Alcatraz escape one. There's a comment by Peter Rees, the executive producer of Mythbusters, that really grabs my attention:

"Another thing that didn't get into the show, which we thought was critical, was that the pieces of debris that were found were found on the west side of Angel Island. The only way the debris would have gotten there was if it were released from Horseshoe Bay on the north shore, the Marin Headlands, where we landed."

There's not a doubt in my mind that they managed to escape. As to what happened after the fact, I'm not so sure about - the picture smells like bull, and I'm somewhat skeptical of the letter, but I'm thoroughly convinced that they made it off Alcatraz.

You absolutely can. The Goldman's sued for the rights to the book and won back in 2007. They published it under the title If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer. You can buy it pretty much anywhere. Here's an Amazon link.

You might be interested in The Conet Project, an attempt to catalog as many number stations as possible.

https://archive.org/details/ird059 has a huge list of audio from the project

and This is their official site.

Have you read the Dear David saga on Twitter? It's about a guy whose apartment is supposedly haunted, with a lot of documentation along the way. If you read all the way through you will get to absolutely horrifying pictures. I'm telling myself it has to be fake but I don't know how he made the photos. Read at your own caution: https://wakelet.com/wake/e6275d03-7bce-4789-9961-f3a04723cc71

> The Dr. Seuss book is something a kindergarten or first grade child would read.

Somebody says this on every post, but this specific book is listed as being for ages 5-9. It's not as simple as Cat in the Hat.

None of the "relics" are authentic. This book tells their stories... and they're actually amazing! Basically, back in the Middle Ages there was a trend of the Catholic Church digging up Roman skeletons from catacombs in Italy and shipping them to churches across Europe as "saints." Most of these have been lost through the years, but some still exist, and they are FABULOUS. The churches that received the skeletons decked them out in jewels and clothes, and some of these still exist. There's a particular village in Germany that pulls their jeweled skeleton out once a year and has a village-wide festival for it. Fascinating stuff.

The legend of Dudleytown is really fascinating, but the vast majority of it is greatly embellished or outright fabricated. A local history teacher actually self-published a book that looks in-depth at both how the legend started, grew, and was perpetuated, and the factual history of the settlement. Definitely recommend it if you're into the area and its history, or just like learning the facts behind urban legends.

Not exactly. It wasn't leaked it was legally published. The Goldman's sued for rights to the book and won the rights to publish and 90% of the profits. They retitled it If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer and published it. You can buy it pretty much anywhere. Here's an Amazon link.

Thanks to D. B. Cooper/Dan Cooper, there's now a device on airplanes called the Cooper Vane that prevents ventral stairways from being lowered during flight.

Very interesting. This appears to be the publication they're talking about. I can try to get my hands on the original article, if anyone is interested (I'm an academic librarian). It would have to wait until I am back at work on Monday though.

Edit: As many of you have probably seen, /u/qualis-libet has posted relevant excerpts from the publications here. Though if there's any other pages that people want to see, let me know.

>They are very common black running shoes

I don't think so. Pause the video at the 0:04 second mark. They are bootie-style slippers, dark brown in color, and the pants leg is pulled down around the shaft. Their overall shape is similar to

these slippers but my guess is their inner lining is not quite so plush. As a clinical neurologist I have been studying gait for 25 years, have now watched that video more than 100 times, and I'd bet money this guy has a normal pair of shoes on inside these slippers.

I'm a meteorologist, so naturally you piqued my interest and I had to check the weather on December 8/9 2001 (she was found dead very early on the 9th, correct?).

I agreed with your assessment that being out in shorts on a December evening in North Carolina seemed bizarre, but the evening of December 8th was, in fact, unusually warm with highs in the 70s, with many warm days preceding it.

I also checked on the hourly observations that day from the airport and saw that it remained in the 60s well into the evening. So it is not impossible to imagine someone being outside with shorts on that night.

This is where I'm getting my info

This.

In some places trafficked women are almost always eastern european. So...pretty much exclusively caucasian.

I get what OP is trying to do here, just like every other OP who posts this, but it also shows a real lack of understanding about what sex trafficking actually is.

I like to start folks off with the wikipedia page to intro them to the five distinct types. It IS real, but is is not some weird underground rail road of rich white ladies.

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking

ETA: I can't spell for shit these days.

Maybe the fox population had rebounded since the Hunting Act of 2004?

Just a theory. I'm not sure the actual impact the Act had on fox populations.

Edit: Apparently the hunting ban doesn't have anything to do with it, but there HAS been a dramatic increase in the fox numbers - here's an article discussing the explosion in the fox population in England has exploded in recent years

Doctors who treated a patient who survived developed the Milwalkee protocol but apparently extended research isn't so sure that it's effective, even though it has saved a handful of people who would have died otherwise. It (edit: rabies, not the protocol) has a near 100 percent mortality rate.

They think that the use of the protocol gives the body more time to produce an immune response.

So you're most likely right but it's complicated.

I found a legal document in regard to a suit that was filed about her death. It is just a little more information. It doesn't give me the impression that the guards were stonewalling, it is unflattering to the supervisor in question.

I doubt she was set up to be killed, since staff but it does sound like her supervisor was giving her crappy jobs for resisting his advances. It sounds to me that they were putting inexperienced guards on duty in places that they should have been putting more experienced officers, but there were both male and female rookies put there previously.

There is a book about her on Amazon. One of the reviews is someone who claims to have been in her training class and he said the book covered what happened and exposed the cover up pretty well.

I live right north of Jackson, but had never heard of this. Thanks for posting.

I'm actually working on a video game based around 19th century polar exploration, so I've ended up doing a ton of research around the subject, a lot of it tied to Franklin in particular. I'd say if you're wanting to do a full primary-source deep dive, the journals of McClintock and some of the other early searchers for Franklin are useful, but probably the best single overview I've found on Franklin and English northwestern exploration in general is this: https://www.amazon.com/Barrows-Boys-Stirring-Fortitude-Outright/dp/0802137946 It only covers the the Franklin expedition specifically in the last two chapters, but it's really well written and researched, and does a superb job of explaining the mindset (and hubris) that guided all the terrible planning decisions that ultimately resulted in the loss of Franklin and his crew, whatever the specifics of how they met their ends.

There were a few days in July that year in that area where the weather dipped into the low 50s or high 40s. Depending on the time of day, it's possible someone might need a coat.

I happen to be Russian and I live in the same city where Chikatilo committed most of his crimes. I've been looking through both English and Russian webpages and I can't find any info anywhere. It could be another book on serial killers, perhaps this one https://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Serial-Killers-Pocket-Books/dp/0671020749 ?

Dick North wrote an excellent book on this guy. He laid out a pretty convincing case that "Albert Johnson" was really Arthur Nelson- a strange, silent, extremely antisocial woodsman who roamed the North Country from 1926 until his disappearance in the early 1930’s. I included a sub-chapter on the Mad Trapper story in my book 'Legends of the Nahanni Valley', but Dick North's book is really the bible on this case, in my opinion.

That is a really cool find, as you said I can hardly find anything about it online and the book is a little bit pricey. I wonder what happened to the tapes, do you know if they still exist or if the estate did anything with them?

OMG - total self promotion but you just described the book it took me 11 years to write! Your question is exactly what I was trying to illustrate: how more than one person's lives can change in totally unexpected ways after preventing a crime from ever happening. I gave the main character in my book the chance to go back & erase a crime, then showed the impact that small change decades earlier multiplied into a drastically different present

I came up with the question (you just posed) right after reading about this nightmare online & following that story to conclusion. If given the chance, I think that's the case I'd choose to prevent

Thanks for the series, they were all great reads.

I know this case will never be solved, and I've flip flopped on different suspects, but if I had to pick one right now I would go with the Aaron Huchenson story.

I think that makes the most sense to me.

The three boys were watching men in the woods have sex and take drugs, the men saw them, and the men did what they did to the boys.

There's motive and reason behind this scenario and it makes a bit more sense than other theories.

Still though, you'd have to believe an 8 year old kid who lost his 3 friends, still pretty sketchy.

This is a good podcast about the Aaron Hutchensen story: https://player.fm/series/truth-justice-with-bob-ruff/ep-521-aaron-hutcheson

I've written a book about Dyatlov Pass. In it I go over the hikers, the hike itself, the autopsies, the injuries, and the theories. The book contains a huge collection of photos, facts, and clues. I also go over a lot of the theories and why they are or aren't viable.

It's getting very good reviews on /r/DyatlovPass and on Amazon itself.

My book is called Death of Nine: The Dyatlov Pass Mystery.

In fact, since this post didn't get much traction, you can always post this same question at /r/DyatlovPass. It's a small sub, but there are folks there who are definitely interested in discussing the mystery.

As for why the Russians re-opened the case: I believe the officials have been getting a lot of pressure from the families and special interest groups. They probably feel pressured to do something and this is one way for them to answer all those questions. The Russians themselves have always thought this was a cover-up, so the officials may want to clear that up also.

This reminds me, I want to try to read The Last Circle again. I say "try to read" because....whooo boy, that is one messed-up book. It's entertaining, but it goes off on about a million tangents about Casolero and the tons of stuff he was looking into at the time of his death. If the author had only focused on the INSLAW case Casolero started with the book would have been half its length but probably just as entertaining, considering the colorful cast of characters involved.

And if I'm a hitman and I get hold of my victim's gun, darn right I am using that. The police can only trace that gun back to the victim, giving them no clues to my identity. Plus I can drop the gun next to the victim and it raises the possibility of suicide.

I love your podcast. It's already one of my favorites. It's one of the most informed and best produced unresolved mystery podcasts around.

I have one tiny bit of constructive criticism, which I only offer because I know you're just getting started and seem open to feedback. Make of it what you will. You might try to tighten up the writing just a bit, on the sentence/paragraph level. There are times when the wording can get a bit repetitive or awkward. Even though it's an old book, Strunk and White's The Elements of Style remains one of the best guides to writing more elegantly. FWIW, I thought this latest episode was tighter than the previous three, so good job!

And please, keep it coming. Your podcast is already very high calibre. It really fills an important gap.

Oh man, I love stuff like this too! But there's not nearly enough of it for me to consume. There have been some great "What's the creepiest thing you've found on the internet?" threads on Reddit over the years that are GREAT must-view material, but beyond that I'm at a loss. I'm not into hoaxes & games; just the real-deal creepiness.

Oh, I fell down a rabbit hole last night reading about "Dr. Death Christopher Duntsch" & found this huuuuuuge page of his insane ramblings. You can view it here. I learned about him here on this sub. I recommend checking out the thread about his batshit story if you haven't already. He created several quadriplegics/paraplegics & killed a few people apparently on purpose, among other things.

There are a lot of versions of that type of bracelet on eBay, Amazon, and the like. It tends to be very inexpensive pieces. When I attended Catholic school over 20 years ago, we received plastic rosaries like that.

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This looks to match the bracelet. https://www.amazon.com/Catholic-Saints-Bracelet-Black-Wood/dp/B00KSI5338

Read Libra by Don DeLillo.

It's historical fiction in that actual words spoken & etc. are made up, but a LOT of research went into the writing of the book, and documented facts were used as the foundation for most of the speculation.

https://www.amazon.com/Libra-Contemporary-American-Fiction-DeLillo/dp/0140156046/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1532560294&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=delillo+libra

I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for (games aren't really my department) but the Kanye Quest mystery is fun to read about.

There was a story I read a few weeks before True Detective started that I thought sounded very similar. The victims aren't really children, but there is speculation about higher-up police cover-ups. Also, it's Louisiana.

&quot;Who Killed the Jeff Davis 8?&quot;

Edit: details

>And how? And how did he dispose of her remains so completely, in the middle of the morning, within a 2-3 hour timeframe, in the middle of a decently sized urban / suburban area, that no one has found her in the last 8 months?

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Brian Barton's body was found in the wood line near an active church. He was not buried or anything like that (believed suicide). He was missing for 12 years. Can you imagine just how easy it would be to hide a body in 2-3 hours when you have a vehicle and could be going in any direction? Assuming he did it in 2-3 hours and not during the rest of his unaccounted for day she could be in all sorts of places and if she is found outside of the local jurisdiction it could be hard to match her body to her disappearance. Given just how hard it can be to find a body (especially in off terrain areas) and it's sort of a wonder we find the bodies that we do find.

Sure, no problem. If you follow this link to the Internet Archive, you will find all three of my books are available for free in multiple formats.

Oh, and thank you very much for the "gold."

One thing not mentioned in anything that I have read...was about the weather. Here is a link to the weather conditions starting at 1am on Saturday. https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KORD/1978/2/25/DailyHistory.html?req_city=&amp;req_state=&amp;req_statename=&amp;reqdb.zip=&amp;reqdb.magic=&amp;reqdb.wmo=

Also this area was just hit by a very large and nasty blizzard that dumped numerous amounts of snow along this region of the country. Now they say it wasn't snowing on this day, but they were up on a mountain, which could have had deeper snow. Deep enough that a snow plow was needed and it was used.

The wind at 1am was around 17 mph and got greater as the night wore on. As well as wind gusts up to 29mph starting around 3am. Combine the cold, the deep snow and the wind gusts. And you could very easily have a "white out" situation. Perhaps they stayed in the car as long as they could. Went outside to try to get their bearings but with the white out conditions lost track of each other. Perhaps we had 1 or 2 stick together but the rest lost track of each other and the car. They ended up in different situations and locations. I have heard of people dying, within blocks of their house because of these kind of white out situations.

Just a thought.

On Peter Sutcliffe, the sticking point is that all of the cases outside Northern England which were thought to have involved him have been ruled out.

I have my doubts about that “ruled out”, as some of the cases seem remarkably suggestive, but now that Sutcliffe is dead there is not much incentive to reopen them (again).

"Death by urination", as an excellent book calls it.

Here, with no open water, pedestrian accidents are a proxy.

Edit 1 By an unfortunate coincidence, as was demonstrated just this morning ...

Edit 2 The article was updated with contemporaneous photographs, including artistic licence (maybe the photographer was drunk too). No London bus travels fast enough to appear blurred in a normal photograph ...

There’s a great book about some of the weirdest unsolved ones in NE Ohio if you're interested! When I was living in Cleveland and read it, I found out one of the unsolved murders had happened literally across the street from where I was. And they had only found like half his bones since they had been scattered by animals— I was half tempted to go looking. So creepy.

The mysterious sniper attack on a California power station.

>"The attack began just before 1 a.m. on April 16, 2013 when someone slipped into an underground vault not far from a busy freeway and cut telephone cables.

>"Within half an hour, snipers opened fire on a nearby electrical substation. Shooting for 19 minutes, they surgically knocked out 17 giant transformers that funnel power to Silicon Valley. A minute before a police car arrived, the shooters disappeared into the night.

>"To avoid a blackout, electric-grid officials rerouted power around the site and asked power plants in Silicon Valley to produce more electricity. But it took utility workers 27 days to make repairs and bring the substation back to life."

At least 100 rounds were fired, and it was believed to be a highly sophisticated attack. The chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission at the time of the attack was quoted with calling this event "the most significant incident of domestic terrorism involving the grid that has ever occurred" in the U.S.

An interesting coincidence is that this event occurred just one day after the Boston marathon bombing. The case is still unsolved.

She'd talked about the attack to friends, before Bailey was actually murdered.

The judge presiding was apparently very selective with which testimonies could be heard, and which testimonies were hearsay and inadmissible. If you'd like more info, /u/storyofohno linked an awesome longform journalism piece on this.

There's an FBI Files episode that explains the whole DB Cooper case, and the FBI hinted that they think that a man by the name of Richard McCoy Jr. may be DB Cooper, since he committed basically a replica hijacking shortly after the famous DB Cooper hijacking. Also, McCoy had military training and was taking classes on parachuting. Plus, the mugshot of McCoy and the sketch of DB Cooper are strikingly similar

I would say there is one significant difference. The vast majority of terrorists in the 70's era wanted to live and to get away with their crimes (maybe by escaping to Cuba, for example). We are currently in the era of suicide bombers and mass shooters who actively want to die. This makes negotiating with them (as used to be standard practice) difficult or even pointless. BTW, I'd like to mention IMO THE book on 70's terrorism, "Crusaders, Criminals, and Crazies" by Dr. Frederick J. Hacker. It's fascinating.

http://www.abebooks.com/Crusaders-Criminals-Crazies-Terror-Terrorism-Time/157947840/bd

Regarding faked deaths, I recently devoured a fantastic book on the subject of pseudocide and faked death conspiracies, entitled, Playing Dead: A Journey Through the World of Death Fraud by Elizabeth Greenwood. It's available as an audiobook through iTunes and Audible, and it's also available as a real-life book (and Prime Eligible!) through Amazon.

Although he's not the focus of the book, the author actually spends a lot of time (like a week or so?) with John Darwin, who was previously mentioned in this thread, and gets some fantastic insight from her time with him.

She also talks a lot to Frank M. Ahearn, who worked as a "skip-tracer," and now helps people (mostly women trying to escape domestic violence situations) disappear.

My summary truly isn't doing the book justice. It's one of the first books in a long time that absolutely captivated me from start to finish. I coincidentally started reading it around the time Lori Erica Kennedy/Ruff's case was resolved, and it helped answer some of the questions I had.

Two very good books about Geli:

Hitler's Neice by Ron Hansen is a novel. It supports the idea that Hitler shot her.

Hitler & Geli is more historically detailed about Hitler's family, youth, rise, and the death of Geli being suspicious. But I can't find it on Amazon, oddly; I'll have to check my bookshelf to see who the author is.

Based on odd coached-sounding statements made by the servants in the home at the time, and conflicting details, including about where Hitler was, I think it's plausible that she was murdered, though not by Hitler, but rather by someone in the Nazi leadership who saw her as a very dangerous influence on Hitler's and a weak link in his armor that could cause worse scandal than a mere silly girl's suicide. So many conflicting reasons were put about by the Nazi PR machine, too. A forbidden lover. A failed opera career. The immediate aftermath was chaos, so maybe Hitler did kill her in a fit of rage and the coverup was rushed. Regardless, the death influenced him the rest of his life.

A fascinating means at glimpsing into the psychopathy of Hitler and his family relationships.

There is a book about this case, which is how I learned anout it:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074PJ4BNG/ref=kinw_myk_ro_title

Yes, it is the one that just could be correct. (All the Sutcliffe "proposed cases" were thrown out, although that was through lack of evidence and lack of surviving witnesses rather than a definitive negative result. Certainly the book that attempted to pin over 20 unsolved cases to him was a masterpiece at making the best of a weak argument).

I have to admit, my feelings about Lindbergh are affected negatively by what seemed to be antisemitism, bigotry, and being a Nazi sympathizer. At the time of the incident, he was still an American hero. Back then there was a lot of kidnapping for ransom. If you had a child that was killed, you weren't the first suspect.

>*Lindbergh's actions are suspicious.

For one, I've heard that he did a "prank" and said the baby was kidnapped. If that's true, who does that? And he identified Charlie because of a toe deformity, and had him immediately cremated. That seems odd, because I don't think cremation was that common back then, much less your toddler.

I like your theory. I just can't see Hauptmann being the mastermind. We'll almost certainly never know what happened.

I hope this is coherent! :)

Ancestry is pretty clear about their guidelines for law enforcement. None of the commercial DNA sites just let LE show up with a subpoena and submit a sample to compare without a specific, limited-scope problem in mind. I saw something on /r/genealogy in the last few weeks about Ancestry receiving about a dozen "valid" subpoenas last year, not all of which resulted in user data being handed over. My assumption is that 23andMe operates similarly.

GEDMatch's services might be a different thing, though. That's how Buckskin Girl's ID was solidified.

If they used familial DNA, it was only after winnowing in on DeAngelo already.

Do they require consent for receiving information about your relatives through Ancestry?

TBH, I'd be pissed if someone contacted me through a service like that if I'd not explicitly given prior consent.

Edit: Found the info myself. No way in hell would I ever submit my genetic info to a company like Ancestry (or 23andme or any of the others). The privacy protection laws are severely lacking and out-of-date for these types of technologies and I do not trust any of them.

https://www.ancestry.com/dna/en/legal/informedConsent/v2#2

I'm going way back in time with this one - British forensic pathologist Sir Bernard Spilsbury (16 May 1877 – 17 Dec 1947).

Spilsbury's cases included H.H. Crippen, the "Brides in the Bath" murders by George Joseph Smith, the Crumbles murders, Donald Merrett, the Sidney Harry Fox matricide, Alfred Rouse (the "Blazing Car Murder"), Elvira Barney, Tony Mancini and the Brighton Trunk Murders, and the Vera Page case. Together with personnel from Scotland Yard, Spilsbury created the "murder bag" - a kit containing evidence collection tools for detectives attending the scene of a suspicious death.

I highly recommend Colin Evans's book "The Father of Forensics" - Amazon.