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I wouldn't recommend older versions since you could be trading new bugs for old bugs. Nullsoft (or whatever's left of them) has effectively abandoned Winamp. You can try WACUP instead https://getwacup.com/, it's the only form of Winamp that's still receiving updates/bugfixes on a regular basis.
I think this recently came up and the problem was related to modern SSL on the feeds, something isn't handled well with old Winamp. WACUP is a modernization of Winamp 5.666 and has updated HTTP handling that is better with this.
You may want to considering using 'Big Bento' instead of 'Bento' as that will increase some of the UI aspects. But the top area you've highlighted is a fixed size so other than using the window scaling options (via the main right-click menu), there's not much else that can be done.
Another possible option is https://getwacup.com/community/index.php/topic,212.0.html which is Bento-like but aims to work better on higher resolution screens & all that fun stuff.
-dro
The site I pointed to may have some of the cPro skins on. If you can let me know the name of the cPro skin you're using from the screenshot then I can see if I've got a copy or ask someone else who is likely to have a copy.
Finally, there is one other way to get the issue resolved but it might not be suitable for you as it involves using my beta update pack (https://getwacup.com/) which applies a number of other fixes that predominantly fix such oddities with modern / cPro skins.
-dro
I'm sorry but imho you're being hood-winked by the lies that they keep putting out. Nothing has apparently been done for months (and when it has been done, it's been odd bits and not continuous as it should have been), they don't want to pay developers or licensing of anything (e.g. waiting for all of the MP3 patents to expire around the world), not having it on product road maps, sending dubious legal threats to users who've done more than they have within the confines of the plug-in system, etc, etc
For the 3 years 'work' seeing as it was halted only a few months after the sale happened (as that's when I was taken off Winamp when I was working for them at the time also on SHOUTcast), I've since heard about what's in the rumoured changelog and tbh I'd be absolutely ashamed of putting it out as a release as it is a disgrace to the name and a massive level of contempt to the remaining users.
I've done so much more in just over a year on my WACUP project (https://getwacup.com/changelog/) out of my own pocket and time than that company have done in its 3 years of tenure.
-dro
Consider giving WACUP a go (can be done as a portable install to make testing easier without messing with an existing install) as it's version of Milkdrop will resolve the desktop mode issue.
-dro
Not quite, I'm an ex-Winamp dev of a few years now (the tag I was given on here probably needs tweaking) so other than the speculation of bugger all being done, I can't say what the current owners may or may not be doing not that they would either.
Though I think it's fair to assume a Windows client isn't on any priority list when what they put out after the "leak" (still hold to them doing it to test the waters) is "not an on-going project" & their new version was only talked about as a mobile focused solution.
As such I'm not at all interested in using anything from the current owners with https://getwacup.com/ now my focus instead for which a replacement in_midi needs to be developed though I was hoping someone else in the community might offer / provide one as I've more than enough on my plate at the moment trying to make WACUP run without using the Winamp core.
Main thing is that you've got a solution for your issue & keeping 2 decades of random crap in my head about Winamp has it's uses still :)
-dro
If they're HTTPS urls then that's the most likely reason for it not working & you can try seeing if plain HTTP urls for the feeds work (it won't help though if the feed only provides HTTPS urls to get the files).
Also 5.666 (& earlier) don't support iTunes urls & it depends on if you're trying to use an RSS or ATOM feed - ATOM feeds also aren't supported (it's not clear at times if a feed link is RSS or ATOM).
However as I use Winamp to manage my podcasts, the limitations with its support annoyed me and it's one of the first things that got fully re-implemented & improved as part of my winamp update pack at https://getwacup.com/ (it's in closed beta but it's easy to find how to get involved with being a beta tester). My replacement plug-in can do HTTP & HTTPS urls (feed & downloads), RSS & ATOM feeds as well as handling iTunes urls.
-dro
5.66x is the current version so old is a bit of a misnomer ;)
I don't plan on making a standalone version of the plug-in and it'll only be included as part of WACUP (my update pack for Winamp that's using the 5.666 release as it's basis - is like a video game mod in using the core game & then changing things).
If you sign-up at https://getwacup.com/community/ and pm 'dro' (mentioning this thread) then when the next WACUP beta build is released (within the next 2 weeks), you'll get beta access so you can give it a go to see if it works for your needs or not (if not I can try and fix things as needed).
-dro
It was a group re-brand with very little to do with winamp other than giving people false hope.
So 'cast' is radionomy/shoutcast (not that shoutcast gets a new logo), 'play' is winamp (with their support person indicating nothing is actively being done on it) and 'sell' relates to targetspot / advertising.
I've speculated what I think might still happen at https://getwacup.com/community/index.php/topic,226.msg1730.html#msg1730 when it comes to Winamp and this new corporate re-branding.
-dro
Other than a handful of people in the time since, most plug-ins were done and left as-is by the early 2000s. A lot of that is because those things generally work for what they need to do and there's no real need to update them (the main thing is normally down to OS changes).
I know my original plug-ins site (where the enhancer wrapper is) needs a complete overhaul but it's time / interest that is an issue (as most of us have). As I want to have things more like my other site (https://getwacup.com/plugins/) but as I want to do coding of that, site updates on the old site don't get done.
But I completely get the point you're making and in an ideal scenario the community would have stayed around and kept doing a lot of things that got people interested in Winamp to begin with and not the twilight that we now appear to be within.
-dro
Sadly the app had problems even when it was being supported 6 years ago & it's just gotten worse with time. Personally I think poweramp is more like what it should have been & is an option I'd suggest.
-dro
Hey sorry to be so late to this thread. I use this plugin for organising my media library (sorry for the onedrive link I couldn't find the original) It works pretty much the same as iTunes but give you a little more customisation. Feel free to pm me if you can't get the link to work.
It'd been speculated that AOL was selling it; since it's shutdown date came and went like the wind and everything continued to work as normal. The DNS servers were transferred to Radionomy last month; but this is the first offical statement I've seen on it.
This is the reason behind doing WACUP (getwacup.com or r/wacup/) though it's still not complete & it's going to take time to replace everything but that's no different than any other media player being created in that it takes time to get things done & right :)
-dro
The install requirements for WACUP are covered at https://getwacup.com/preview/#requirements i.e. by you installing it, it will get the bits needed for you if not already present from the 5.666 release that it was based on top of.
Though as the builds have progressed, WACUP gradually uses a lot less of the Winamp files & it's aim is to be a standalone player of it's own right but with a focus on Winamp compatibility (something it can almost do with the current betas where its can run without out the Winamp core but is missing some support for using the 5.666 modern skin engine plug-in).
Putting the now abandoned 5.8 beta over the top of a WACUP install is absolutely not recommended & will make for a mess of an install that will very likely cause crashes.
-dro
The common reason is that the extension of the missing files do not match to what the currently installed input plug-ins report they support. As only files that are claimed will be added into the library (though at times maybe the import should just add anything from a common list of extensions & deal with the lack of playback support elsewhere).
So you'll need to check the extension of the files not added & see if there's an appropriate input plug-in needed (e.g. opus files need a 3rd party input plug-in by thinktink).
Also ensure you're using a good Winamp version (e.g. the patched 5.666 install from https://www.filehorse.com/download-winamp/19580/).
-dro
The JTFE plug-in is not allowed to be installed with or as part of the v5.8 beta (or anything provided by the current Winamp owners which seems unlikely to happen) which is why the feature isn't there.
If you're not adventurous in giving WACUP a go (which includes a newer supported version of the plug-in - I'm the developer of it) then the patched 5.666 build (https://www.filehorse.com/download-winamp/19580/) is the best option to stick with (at least until imho WACUP is more feature complete).
-dro
It should be fine unless it's hitting a known bug in one of the input plug-ins used to add files (i.e. as happens if not using the patched 5.666 build from https://www.filehorse.com/download-winamp/19580/).
-dro
Depending on what plug-in(s) (especially 3rd party) that you may have present in that install, you may need to find updates for them as well as updating the Winamp client.
The patched 5.666 install is probably the safest option to go for (as from https://www.filehorse.com/download-winamp/19580/) rather then the 5.8 beta (nor is WACUP in its current state a good option based on going from such an old version).
Finally when updating, make sure to uncheck anything you don't need instead of just clicking next, next, next - that will save you a lot of hassle post-install.
-dro
I'd go back & try with the 5.666 installer (e.g. the one from https://www.filehorse.com/download-winamp/19580/) as I suspect that side of ripping functionality in the 5.8 beta is broken (amongst other issues seen with that beta build).
-dro
5.666 (preferably the patched version as from https://www.filehorse.com/download-winamp/19580/) is almost 6 months newer than the 5.7 beta you've mentioned. The 5.7 betas were analogous to the 5.64/5.65 releases at the time & the difference was the Winamp Cloud beta features being present or not. So there's no reason to use the 5.7 betas other than wanting a higher number & is the reason why the leaked / official 5.8 beta (which is stated as "not an on-going project" was released as 5.8 & not 5.7.
There's a changelog on their forum & in the threads in here about it from that time & is up to you to decide if you think it's worthwhile installing another beta compared to the 5.666 release (when correctly patched). The parts about Win8/Win10 support are just marketing fud & basically just relates to changing a value in a file so the program can correctly detect the OS otherwise 5.666 is fine on Win10.
Personally I wouldn't touch 5.8 as it's incomplete, is unknown what telemetry they may have added into it (un-checking anon stats in 5.666 is known to work correctly) & is mainly changes for the sake of licensing not being renewed & not really doing much to move it forward & functionally there is less in 5.8 beta compared to 5.666 but it depends if you used what's not present as to whether you'd even notice.
-dro
It's a bug in the v5.8 beta when using the Winamp Modern skin. There's a few posts about it on their forum with some less than helpful replies to fix it.
Unless you're happy manually editing config files, going back to the patched 5.666 build (e.g. from https://www.filehorse.com/download-winamp/19580/). Otherwise you need to locate the studio.xnf file & work through manually changing the positional coordinates in the file for the skin in your text editor of choice.
-dro
The classic base skin is present (just a little bit wacupified vs the 5.666 incarnation) & depending on what you select during installation, you might be shown https://getwacup.com/screenshots/wacup_first_run_skin_selection.png
There's also nothing to stop you changing / adding other skins just like Winamp but you'll have to manually copy new skins into the WACUP/Skins folder for now as there's no attempt for now for WACUP to register as a default file handler (is part of the things not done with it being a preview).
-dro
Am guessing it might have been my 3-mode repeat plug-in (an updated version of it is part of WACUP though I don't plan on resurrecting it as a Winamp specific plug-in).
You can if using a classic skin (as seems might be the case if you've only got an on/off option) enable the manual advance option (right-click on the repeat button or use shift+r if the main window is focused) which when repeat is enabled will then repeat the current item.
The same will apply to some modern skins as not all of them support the mode either but most of those types of skin created after 2004/5 will likely have support for 3-mode repeat.
-dro
>WACUP (which can be pronounced as wakeup or wac-up or however you prefer it in your native tongue)
It's right on the website: https://getwacup.com/
I read it aloud as "whack-up".
Sounds like you're mixing up Winamp core features (search bar, album browser) with skin-specific features (fullscreen, docked toolbar). I guess your safest bet is my Winamp skin Big Bento Modern, I used Bento as a base but improved it in every possible way I could think of. Download at https://getwacup.com/community/index.php?topic=327.msg2379
If the codec support is there then it probably should work (I've not used the 5.8 beta so I don't know how well it works) but it might just be a bug with their beta build. As most setups should including the decoders though it could also be it doesn't support a specific variation (as there's different levels for the video encodings).
Alternatively you may want to see how a 5.666 install works though that generally locked out h264 support from non-pro versions but a quick "ProFit4Consumption.txt" search will help you deal with that.
A final option would be to see if WACUP fares any better as test install as that does things a bit differently to 5.666 with video playback & may or may not work better.
-dro
Would you be ok if we provide this as an optional download for users to install from within WACUP ?
I know the presets generally allow doing whatever with them but as you've put in a lot of time & effort on this, I just don't want to add an option for WACUP users without first making sure there's appropriate credit to you for having curated things.
-dro
There's still a demand for a "traditional" local media player which is some of the reasoning behind me doing https://getwacup.com/ but Winamp as it was is imho dead & buried at this point (nor could I trust the current owners to do anything other than sully it's name further).
Streaming has massively changed things but the locking down of it & making it hard for Windows programs to access things with the focus all on mobile (e.g. spotify & they're deprecated Windows support library) does make it harder but its still possible.
-dro
The problem is that the web page that 5.666 or earlier or the 5.8 beta are being made to show don't integrate with the hooks that the online services plug-in provides. It's due to that which is causing the issue & unless you've got PLS playlist files correctly associated with the Winamp install than you're going to have such issues.
I couldn't put up with that so I coded a native (non-web browser) based library view as part of WACUP which has the benefit of doing play/enqueue/enqueue & play/drag & drop without having to worry about the program being setup to file association handling (e.g. https://getwacup.com/images/ml_radio_view_example.png).
-dro
Obviously the wrong thing you did was to install Winamp 5.8 (and the fact that radionomy intentionally made that feature become really useless in the online services thing)
What you should do is to install WACUP, a community managed project run by dro who has added a ton of features and provides a good amount of bugfixes as well, even the Online Services thing you're experiencing
I'm going to put this out there but WACUP even in a preview state can offer what you're wanting. Via the Playlist File Remover plug-in included with it that can allow you to remove files as they're played until everything is played & then it'll reload the playlist or can run a library query (has a range of options for such scenarios).
Alternatively if you're not modifying the playlist after playback begins but you're opening & closing the program at times, it can preserve the shuffle table between instances which is the main reason people experience repeat plays of files as no version of Winamp will preserve that.
Another option is to send the whole playlist to the the playback queue via a Ctrl+A followed by Shift+R within the main playlist editor as long as the JTFE plug-in has been installed & that will then play through things in a randomised order without messing with the order within the playlist (it's a different take on using shuffle but you can more easily see what's going on).
The other approach is to not use shuffle & just pre-randomise the playlist & play that through in order.
Another thing is that you can mark certain files to be excluded from playback under WACUP so even if they appear in the main playlist, they should then be skipped over which can be useful if there's definite files that shouldn't be played but want to be left in the library, etc.
So there's options & if you must then you might be able to find pre-WACUP versions of my plug-ins but there's no guarantee nor any support from me that they'll work on such an old Winamp version.
-dro
That was never a native Winamp feature & would most likely have been via my 'Playlist File Remover' plug-in.
I don't provide a standalone version of that plug-in any more (note: all of the versions out there have different issues depending on the Winamp version being used) & instead only support it in an updated form as included with WACUP (https://getwacup.com/).
-dro
As a follow-up on this, I've been working on the following https://getwacup.com/images/internet_radio_returns.png over the last few days to get back to something more like the 2.9x/early 5.x internet radio view (which will be included in the next WACUP beta build).
-dro
Everything in the changelogs at https://getwacup.com/changelog/ answers the first question along with what has been mentioned on the blog posts, etc. tldr; it replaces a lot of the plug-ins from 5.666 (as was always possible to do).
I was planning on keeping it all to myself & never letting anyone have a 'final' version of it... :P
-dro
What will be provided at https://getwacup.com/ is like a plug-in pack but on steriods (dunno if anyone remembers the old 'Winamp Essentials' pack which is the spiritual origin of WACUP). However at the moment there isn't a public download of that update pack other than via an easy to join closed beta :)
-dro
I think you're just going to have to call this as a lost plug-in. I've not found anything even in some of the old winamp.com dumps to see if there was anything in there (unless it went under a different name that I've missed). However it doesn't seem like it's something that would even likely work on recent Windows released (even XP based on the note on the page about maybe working on NT).
-dro