why is there so much shilling in this site againt adblock plus and its whitelist feature? companies dont pay adblock to whitelist their ads, they pay adblock to review their ads and see if they fit the rules of the whitelist.
This process is transparent to the community and they can give feedback. This is exactly the compromise the internet needs, a way to fund sites through advertising and a way to tone down the annoying adverts.
edit: Their ad whitelisting critera: https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads#criteria
You can still block everything by disallowing acceptable ads in Adblock Plus settings.
This "allow acceptable ads by default" thing was introduced 3 years ago in Adblock Plus version 2.0.
They don't unblock ads from people that pay them. They have a thing called "acceptable ads" which is turned on by default and allows non-intrusive ads to bypass the adblock, this can easily be turned off in the settings. Considering that this is the sole reason many people used adblock (so ads would stop using intrusive methods like pop ups and autoplaying videos), it is not a bad idea.
What companies pay for is for Adblock Plus to research their ads and see whether they consider them acceptable, which Google's ads are. If they aren't acceptable then Adblock Plus will tell them how to make them acceptable and when that is done they are added to the acceptable ads list.
I don't see why people think this is a bad idea, the thought behind adblock was never to starve website of ad revenue, it was to starve website which used shitty ads of ad revenue and make them change their advertising tactics to more acceptable methods.
A company with shitty autoplaying flash ads can't just pay ABP to unblock their ads. That isn't the point. This is their source of revenue and is beneficial for ad companies and the end user.
Edit: Here's what and who has to pay
> * Only large entities have to pay. We qualify an entity as large when it gains more than 10 million additional ad impressions per month due to participation in the Acceptable Ads initiative.
> * For these entities, our licensing fee normally represents 30 percent of the additional revenue created by whitelisting its acceptable ads.
https://adblockplus.org/about#monetization
Must meet the acceptable ads criteria or whitelisting is impossible. https://adblockplus.org/acceptable-ads#criteria
This is the right way to operate an adblocker, everyone wins.
AdBlock and AdBlock Plus are different softwares. AdBlock Plus have not been purchased, AdBlock has. Also, the Acceptable Ads program is 'not' a bought spot. It's a whitelist with non intrusive ads which you can opt out of.
>No applicant will be favored or treated differently, and no one can buy their way onto the whitelist. Everyone has to comply with the criteria and everyone has to go through the same process before the ads qualify as "acceptable."
From Adblock Plus's FAQ.
I have little to no issues with non intrusive ads. It's about time advertisers on the internet stop with the intrusive terrible ads. At least this shows that companies are starting to realize how big of a market they lose by allowing ridiculous ads to go live.
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> To add: why are you taking money to let ads through? That's completely against what the software is for.
In 2011 we already introduced our Acceptable Ad initiative. Virtually all content on the web is financed through advertising, and we believe that publishers should be able to earn money through adblock users who opted out of traditional advertising.
We are very much against bad ads: the video ads, the overlays, the auto-playing ads, anything that moves, anything that is too big, anything that interrupts the reading flow etcetc. And this will always we blocked by default. Having that said, many users do not mind small, well distinguished, non animated ads. And that is why we are unblocking a few unobtrusive ads which have to comply with our Acceptable Ad Criteria, so the hundreds of websites and companies we work with can still earn money.
And yes, we only charge the 10% largest companies, so we can keep our services (whitelisting, consulting, monitoring etc) for free for all smaller publishers and companies.
[EDIT: Typos]
They're also not just "paid for." adblock has a criteria they have to meet to be allowed. This is intended to encourage companies to make less intrusive advertising.
someone didnt actually read whats going on. This isnt true at all. adblock is letting companies buy 'reasonable ads'.. THIS IS SHARED WITH CONTENT CREATORS. Thats the freaken point. Now the content creator doesnt even have to go through the adblock ad service, they can be like reddit here, and just only do acceptable ads and then get whitelisted by adblock and get 100% of their revenue.
If they dont, they can CHOOSE to go through the adblock ad exchange and put ads on their site and share revenue with adblock.
Seriously what OP is saying just is NOT true.
here is how you get whitelisted for having your own ads
AND HERE IS THEIR NEW PROGRAM OF REVENUE SHARING. using theri ad exchange.
>It’ll begin doing that through an ad marketplace, which will allow blogs and other website operators to pick out so-called “acceptable” ads and place them on their pages.
they put the adblock ads on their site THEMSELVES.. its all theri choice. They can even tell adblock to fuck off.
YSK: some people who post to YSK might not know what they are talking about and you should always double check.
(and users can turn off even acceptable ads if they want none.. i'm an ublock origin user, but i like this adblock program.)
Leave the TV on static for a couple days. It may be too late for your TV to reverse the effects. Worth a try.
Just switch the tv to its tuner and pick a channel that doesn't come in at all.
Edit: If you are unlucky enough to have a digital only tv tuner in your tv. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN-KIlsxxOw
Edit 2: Apparently, some people don't use this https://adblockplus.org/ make sure it's installed in Chrome/Firefox to not sully the black magic Youtube video I linked.
You should change to uBlock origin if you actually want to block ads, as Adblock Plus has a program where advertisers can pay them to have their ads be let through and could be considered assholedesign itself.
Fucking hell, how many times is this going to be repeated? Adblock has an acceptable ads policy. They accept ads that are not intrusive and make money off of that (but only 10% of those in the whitelist actually paid for the spot). That's how they maintain the project.
The whitelist can be very well disabled
They were never silent about the whitelist and they even prompt you with a page explaining it when you first install adblock plus (at least they did on mine)
Having an acceptable ads policy is good because it promotes the growth of free content (free for the consumer at least) and promotes a clean advertising model that is not intrusive
It's not the "latest versions" and that just shows how ill informed you are. They have been doing it for years.
https://adblockplus.org/acceptable-ads
Bottom line, adblock plus has a good policy but ublock origin is better because it consumes less resources and has more options not exclusive to content blocking.
Exactly this. We are a small company (<50 employees), which is supporting:
Read more about our monetization model and why we are charging a few large entities:
>In fact, we have a small but growing team that supports our users and the increasing amount of participants who choose to partake in the Acceptable Ads initiative.
> Our goals are simple:
> * Continue to work on Adblock Plus so that it can function on various platforms > * Keep improving the functionalities of Adblock Plus to provide users with the best possible tool to protect them from malware and have better control of their browsing experience and collection of their personal data In regards to the Acceptable Ads initiative, Eyeo needs to review and analyze many applications. This includes reviewing ad format, safety precautions, compliance with the Acceptable Ads criteria and technical feasibility of the requested whitelisting, creating the filters for the whitelist, testing the filters, posting to the forum, etc.
>But, Eyeo is not just about Adblock Plus and Acceptable Ads. Our mission is to make the Internet better. We intend to do so by creating new ways for publishers to earn money from their content without alienating their users.
I'm an uBlock Origins user as well . But before you keep rewriting that sell out rhetoric you should actually read about their Acceptable Ads program. First and foremost you can click and turn it off if you really don't want to allow it but the whole point is that they work with companies to serve less obtrusive and more distinctly labeled ads. Furthermore they provide said whitelist so you could easily copy paste to the blacklist if you didn't trust it.
People say they will whitelist a site if it doesn't have obtrusive ads, well, here is a tool that lets you do that.
Remember the best way to protest this guys is with an ad blocker. It'll hit them where it hurts. The two main ones are:
Adblock Plus:
Ublock
> then I guess find an alternative
Or just untick the "Allow non-intrusive advertising" checkbox in Adblock Plus settings. This was added 3 years ago.
More websites these days think they can catch me with this shit, well they are wrong.
ADD BLOCK PLUS ELEMENT HIDING HELPER. https://adblockplus.org/en/elemhidehelper
You may have to select more than just one element to get rid of the entire pop-up ( as they are usually made up of multiple elements) including the stupid darkened background element but it works 9 out of 10 times.
>UBlock Origin - it uses less CPU/RAM and shows no ads.
>Adblock (Plus) allows certain ads. They will also demand money from "larger entities" to let ads through. While I'm not a fan of ads (I use uBlock Origin), I'm also not a fan of how Adblock (Plus) makes money - they are basically running an extortion racket. This makes marketing more expensive even for good/nice/no-spammy/well-behaved companies:
> … our main source of revenue comes as part of the Acceptable Ads initiative. Larger entities (as defined below) pay a licensing fee for the whitelisting services …
> Regarding fees, only large entities (those with more than 10 million additional ad impressions per month due to participation in the Acceptable Ads initiative) have to pay.
Adblock Plus wasn't about eliminating ads from the internet, it was made to stop annoying, obtrusive, and harmful ads. I can deal with a stupid banner ad, we all can, but advertisers want to be seen because that is their job. They began breaking out of their box, adding sounds, making things difficult to close, this is what Adblock was against. Adblock Plus has a whole page about acceptable ads and if you read the site when you downloaded it, you'd know this was here for years and years. You can argue about how they are doing it and if that is good or bad but don't act like they were against all advertisements.
We need ads, people. There is so much content on the internet and no one wants to pay for 99% of it. What we don't have is dialog between advertisers and the ones being advertised to. We tried blocking it and advertisers are trying their hardest to circumvent these tricks. We are being just as stubborn as the advertisers so maybe if we take a step back and figure out what kind of ad is acceptable and which isn't, we can make the internet a less shitty place.
Hi there,
You're on the right track with that! This requires to subscribe to a malicious Filter via user interaction.
However we're aware of other implications and are already working on a fix for this.
You can find our official statement for this here: https://adblockplus.org/blog/potential-vulnerability-through-the-url-rewrite-filter-option
Cheers,
-Jessy
Here's an excerpt from ABP's website page on whitelisting:
https://adblockplus.org/acceptable-ads
> To ensure transparency and fairness, the following rules have and will always apply to everyone without exceptions: > > * Participants cannot pay to avoid the criteria. Every ad has to comply with the criteria. > * For transparency reasons, we add all Acceptable Ads to our forum to provide our community with the opportunity to submit feedback. We greatly value feedback and read all comments. > * Adblock Plus users are valuable to us and we listen to them. If, for valid reasons, any Acceptable Ads proposal is rejected by our community, the ad(s) will be removed from our whitelist. > > We are able to keep our open source product free by charging large entities a fee for whitelisting services. For the other 90% of our partners, these services are offered free of charge.
You are wrong.
Adblock Plus (not AdBlock) started the Acceptable Ads program, AdBlock has implemented the same whitelist.
The AA program whitelists ads that aren't annoying. The criteria is here. The shit about selling out is retards not knowing how to read and just seeing the word money. Small websites with acceptable ads get whitelisted for free. Huge sites and ad agencies like Google also have to pay a fee, but the criteria is still the same. Disabling it altogether is just one click.
Neither extension harvests personal data, only basic anonymous telemetry, and both are open source.
All that said, uBO is still better on resources, but I'm sick of this misinformation spreading.
That's the whole point of acceptable ads. Ads that do not inject malware and are not intrusive. The whole idea is to make the internet a better place, where content authors can still have ads to make money, as long as they adhere to the guidelines of not fucking shit up everywhere.
You can read about the whitelist here.
Do they realize that Adblock has acceptable ads? If advertising companies would create less visually intrusive ads, and/or if sites would place ads in acceptable places so that users didn't feel the need to block them, there wouldn't be an issue.
>Adblock Plus exists to save its users from annoying ads. However, we don't think that all ads are bad, and we are fully aware that website owners need them to survive. Therefore, we have established strict criteria to identify Acceptable Ads: unobtrusive ones that don't need to be blocked. Websites that are willing to comply with these criteria can apply to have their ads added to the Acceptable Ads exception list, which will unblock them for most users. Note that if you don't want to see any ads, you will always be able to opt out of this. https://adblockplus.org/en/about
If you want people to switch to Ublock Origin, great. Stop spreading the "Adblock has ads that are paid to make it through" FUD though. Not only is it instantly, permanently able to be shut off, but there's more to it than "we paid to stay active".
Adblock is also open source. They're not really shady. They just try to promote better ads, so they allow good ads (which have requirements) to their market. This is good to promote better ads, which is what we need vs just blocking every ad. If you still want to block all ads, they still let you do that.
They also don't collect any data that's not needed. They're also pretty transparent of what they do. They explain everything they do on their site.
I use Ublock though since I prefer it, just wish people weren't so misinformed about Adblock.
When you label things hate / hate speech that are not, you dilute its meaning.
https://adblockplus.org/blog/attention-noscript-users
http://www.schillmania.com/content/entries/2009/adblock-vs-noscript/
https://news.slashdot.org/story/09/05/01/236248/noscript-adds-subscriptions-to-adblock-plus
You could stop using Adblock Plus. That shit straight up <em>allows</em> certain ads. It will even replace some ads with their own.
Get a proper ad blocker, like uBlock Origin (not to be confused with the non-Origins clone.)
I don't use HotsLogs, but I took a quick tour around the site and got zero ads and zero signs they detected I was blocking ads.
If you're confused, just follow the money, and you'll know what's up.
> The typo correction feature is an additional revenue source for the Adblock Plus project. [...] Whenever typo correction brings you to the site of a large online shop an affiliate ID will be added to the address. <em>(source)</em>
Now this does seem to be a bit useless and on the shady side, but at least it's not overly intrusive. If you say no to the first prompt, it automatically disables this... feature, and you can turn it off in the filter options as well.
You can also manually enter your filtering rules.
My Filters
Let's not spread FUD on what's "acceptable" like it's some arbitrary, shadowy term. They outline exactly what an acceptable ad is and every company requesting is manually verified. You can also disable the feature that allows unintrusive ads so it'll block everything.
My general feeling on ads is, if it's a content creator you enjoy and want to support, there's no reason to not allow them to make money from ad revenue.
I recommend ad block if going here:
Edit: you can get adblock plus for free for chrome and firefox here for those that are interested https://adblockplus.org/ its just an extension and blocks all those pesky pop up ads at most streaming websites like this.
First of all, Adblock and Adblock Plus (ABP) are different extensions. The one /u/Cloo159 is showing is ABP.
Now, they do have an "acceptable ads" program, in which they allow ads that comply with their conditions (e.g. not moving ads, not flashy, not intrusive, etc.), though in order to do that, companies* must pay ABP to have their ads whitelisted. For example, Reddit is included in such program and that's why you see Reddit ads by default since they are just basically static images.
ABP have had this program since, like, forever. It's nothing new. It upsets people because it's enabled by default, though it's completely optional. To disable it, you need to go to your settings and uncheck the box that says "Allow non-intrusive ads", and that's it. This also upsets people because many think less tech savvy users are exposed to ads they "should not be seeing", and there's not an immediate way to turn them off, unless you do a cuple of extra clicks.
The reason to choose uBlock over ABP, in my opinion, is because uBlock has a better performance. And that's it.
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* Big names, such as Google, Apple, Amazon, etc. "Smaller" companies/websites may or may not pay, depending on how you define "small". Thanks /u/Baukelien.
The mobile version of Firefox supports extensions including the ones mentioned in this thread (abp, ublock origin).
abp also has its own browser (available on android and ios) that comes with adblocking built-in: https://adblockplus.org/blog/adblock-browser-is-here.
Maybe Opera does too, I know the desktop version has adblocking built-in and it's possible the mobile version is the same.
They won't block ads in apps though, you still need root for that afaik.
Hell, Adblock Plus was working with Google and a couple other companies to try and get the whole ad industry to design ads in ways where they wouldn't interfere with the browsing experience (and would load quickly).
This is silly and misinformed. Adblock, they aren't a sellout. They aren't even for the most part earning profit from this. Theyre creating a system of friendly adverts that are in a whitelist on their blocker. This means websites or advert providers can apply to have their banners, adverts, content unblocked by adblock. Meaning only friendly and safe adverts by their guidelines are allowed through. It's a purging method as adblock is aggressive and sites know it's become futile but income for sites has been cut off by people wanting gone of them.
This feature is OPTIONAL you can turn it off and have your advertless net back, but because nobody had bothered to research further than a kotaku article or a reddit headline all they saw was "ADBLOCK TO SELL ADVERTS"
It isn't a bad thing to support websites you use or YouTubers and this isn't something you're forced to use. Please look into it
I had a series of icons on the top of my personal website linking to various other platforms where I have a social media presence. They had classnames starting with"i-". Things like "i-youtube", "i-blog", and... "i-facebook". Because I had social buttons disabled via UBlock Origin, my link to facebook was just gone.
Fair warning, OP: it doesn't matter what classname you use, if you put ads there, it's going to eventually be blocked by the various ad blocking plugins. Even randomly generated classnames are probably not safe, the internet is very good at genrating heuristics to block ads, and it will always be easier to block ads than to try and defeat ad blockers: https://adblockplus.org/blog/fb-reblock-ad-blocking-community-finds-workaround-to-facebook
I'll cite the answer from Wladimir Palant, the original developer of Adblock Plus:
> As discussed many times before - this isn't going to help anyone. There is no money in ads that nobody sees. Even if the website is paid for views rather than clicks (most are not), advertisers want to achieve something with their advertisements. They aren't stupid, they won't continue paying money for nothing - if they notice that a large proportion of views doesn't result in anything the website will be paid less (or even kicked out of the program entirely, keyword: fraud). In other words: you cannot help your favorite website "for free". Either whitelist it and accept the ads or look for a different way to give it money.
Source: Adblock Plus forum
Adblock Plus seems to support Safari. uBO and ABP are mostly the same as they both use the same block lists. The difference comes down to performance and some technical features. uBO is more efficient and faster. If you are not hard set to using Safari i'd say give Chrome/Firefox a try. They have a much wider support when it comes to extensions.
They do track us. Respecting Do Not Track is not part of the requirements.
> These criteria are not necessarily final; we are always working at improving them. In particular, we want to require that every user's privacy is respected (e.g. mandatory Do Not Track support). However, we are not yet in a position to enforce that requirement.
https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads#criteria
This is why I don't support them.
yea I haven't used Ultimate Guitar in a while. I thought the site was dead? It's like the 9Gag of tab sites...
It's a pathetic cycle. People stopped using it because of the shitty advertisements and so, as a response to losing ad revenue, they've gotten more hardcore with ads.
If anyone from Ultimate-Guitar reads this, here's some advice from a web developer: users don't like intrusive ads. Your product is your user base, which you sell to advertisers. No product, no sales. Of course, you also rely on your users being willing participants. Fortunately for us, unfortunately for you, we have tools like AdBlock Plus with which we can negate intrusive ads. That said, this is used as a mechanism to protect our computers and ourselves against the aggressive, and frankly offensive, methods by which you've chosen to advertise to us. Fortunately for you, though, AdBlock Plus offers a list of criteria that ads must meet to not be blocked by ABP. This isn't actually a difficult set of rules to meet, or unreasonable. You are welcome to sell my page hits to advertisers if you meet the above criteria with your ads. Otherwise, though, I do not consent to being sold and so your advertisements will not reach me in any manner you could legally undertake.
That's the idea, maybe convince more advertisers to stop being horrible; they mentioned that in their FAQ about "Acceptable Ads".
> By doing this you support websites that rely on advertising but choose to do it in a non-intrusive way. And you give these websites an advantage over their competition which encourages other websites to use non-intrusive advertising as well
As for me, I have a 250MB data cap daily, anything above text ads eats from my data pool.
HD | TNT 720p 60fps UStream | English | Ad Overlays: 1 | Mobile:Yes | Console:Yes
Install Ad Block Plus on PC or Ad Block Browser on Mobile to stop the Ustream pre-roll video ads.
Ustream Multi-Rates: It will be set to AUTO by default. Click the HD button bottom right of player to choose a specific resolution.
Lakers vs Blazers + Inside the NBA
Some time ago now ABP basically sold out by taking money from the big ad companies (google, microsoft, amazon, tombola etc) to stop blocking their ads.
The tech community generally recommends uBlock Origin as a replacement for ABP.
edit: here is where ABP explain what they call "Acceptable Ads"
The Ad Block Plus devs are well aware of this issue, and they're trying to avoid it. Take a look at the Acceptable Ads page on their site:
> Starting with Adblock Plus 2.0 you can allow some of the advertising not considered annoying to be viewed. By doing this you support websites that rely on advertising but choose to do it in a non-intrusive way.
> Why is this feature enabled by default?
> Unfortunately, this is the only way to accomplish the goals described above. But if the majority of Adblock Plus users have this function activated, advertisers will have the incentive to produce better ads.
UBlock Origin - it uses less CPU/RAM and shows no ads.
Adblock Plus allows certain ads. They will also demand money from "larger entities" to let ads through. While I'm not a fan of ads (I use uBlock Origin), I'm also not a fan of how Adblock Plus makes money - they are basically running an extortion racket. This makes marketing more expensive even for good/nice/no-spammy/well-behaved companies:
> … our main source of revenue comes as part of the Acceptable Ads initiative. Larger entities (as defined below) pay a licensing fee for the whitelisting services …
> Regarding fees, only large entities (those with more than 10 million additional ad impressions per month due to participation in the Acceptable Ads initiative) have to pay.
> AdBlock Plus has the "acceptable ad" feature.
What I really want is an ad-blocker that is off by default, but which I can turn on for specific sites. Most of them can be turned off for specific sites, but I don't think I've found one which can easily do the inverse. I know most blockers can do it if you manually write rules, but I'm talking about a really simple interface, like replacing the "disable adblock on this site" button with an "enable adblock on this site".
That way, I wouldn't be depriving sites of revenue unless their advertising had actively annoyed me.
If a large number of people were doing this, it would have the effect "acceptable ads" policies aim for: pushing advertising in the right direction by disincentivising obnoxious advertising, and reducing collateral damage to sites with unobtrusive ads. However, it would be more democratic, and would not be suffer the same conflicts of interest and potential for corruption that centrally-maintained "acceptable advertising" lists do (ABP development is funded through fees paid by whitelisted networks, which is a. potentially corrupting for whoever decides what is acceptable, b. arguably extortion and c. counter-productive because it takes money away from sites that are doing advertising right).
> I have no idea how to get an ad-blocker
Right, I'll take this opportunity to 1. tell you why you need an ad blocker, and 2. how to get one.
You need an ad blocker because you care about your computer. It probably cost you a lot of money, after all. See, site owners can't be arsed to manage the ads on their site themselves, so they outsource it to ad companies like Google. Ad companies, in turn, don't really care about ad content, as long as it makes them money. This means ads can contain whatever piece of malware or cpu/bandwidth-hogging shit its author chooses. Ads commonly track your whereabouts, meaning your browsing habits end up being sold to God knows who. In a world where, say, a potential employer can buy that kind of information to check up on you, I'd be worried. You should be too.
Think of the ad blocker as a vital piece of internet hygiene. You wouldn't attend a job interview without having showered and brushed your teeth, nor should you let other people use your property and privacy to earn themselves money at your expense.
Now, onto business. Head over to https://adblockplus.org/, click the green "Install" button, and follow the instructions. Congratulations, you now have a baseline defense against malware and people tracking your browsing habits. You should find a red "ABP" stopsign appearing somewhere in your browser indicating that the plugin is installed correctly. Feel free to browse the settings: in particular, you will probably want to uncheck the checkbox named "allow some nonintrusive ads". Head over to Youtube and enjoy your ad-free videos.
TL;DR: Site owners should take their own goddamn responsibility for the ads they display on their site, because 1. I want the ad click profits I generate to fall onto them (and not some shady middlehand), and 2. I want to know who I should sue when a malicious website ad installs malware on my computer or steals my personal data.
seriously dude : add blocker .... I did not noticed there ware adds on that site https://adblockplus.org
how do you people even internet?
Edit:Or UBlock like it's been suggested https://www.google.ro/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fchrome.google.com%2Fwebstore%2Fdetail%2Fublock%2Fcjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm%3Fhl%3Den&ei=jh...
HD | ESPN 720p 60fps UStream | English | Ad Overlays: 0 Pop: 1 | Mobile:Yes | PS4: Yes
Install Ad Block Plus on PC or Ad Block Browser on Mobile to stop the Ustream video ads.
Ustream Multi-Rates: It will be set to AUTO by default. Click the HD button bottom right of player to choose a specific resolution.
It's enabled by default so that more people will allow reasonable advertisements. Most people aren't necessarily against advertisements as a general rule, but big, flashy, distracting ads are annoying. I don't have statistics for how many people actually leave the non-intrusive ads enabled, but this survey suggests that most people would allow it (or at least wouldn't go to the effort of disabling it).
He's talking about the non-intrusive whitelist feature.
Just ignore him, Adblock Plus only allows certain ads though if you enable this feature if you don't enable it then it will block the same amount of ads ublock/ublock origin does.
Åbent brev til danske medier:
> Hej danske medier
> Det er ærgeligt at høre at I har trænge kår p.t., men vidste I at det er muligt at få reklamer der bliver vist på trods af ad-blockere?
> Det kræver såmænd bare at man laver reklamer, der ikke er irriterende eller påtrængende, og som ikke involverer splashscreens med brugerundersøgelser.
> Det vil koste lidt på bundlinien at omtænke jeres reklamestruktur, men det vil til gengæld give adgang til at få reklamer frem til en stor del af dem, der ellers ville blokere dem, og det er da noget at sigte efter. Det kunne endda være, at hvis jeres reklamer var mindre irriterende, så ville folk måske endda whiteliste jeres sites!
> Lad være med at vente på at det bliver en nødvendighed for at I kan overleve, men gå det i møde og vis fremadsindethed. Det vil jo nok faktisk blive belønnet!
>Det syntes jeg da selv er værd at tænke over.
>Mvh
>Blobfis
It's a bit more complicated than that:
If adverts are not intrusive, that is ads that meet this criteria are let through if the option is enabled by the user.
They only charge large companies to whitelist their ads, and they still have to meet the criteria:
>We are able to keep our open source product free by charging large entities a fee for whitelisting services. For the other 90% of our partners, these services are offered free of charge.
(source)
Firefox on Android lets you install add-ons so you can use Adblock Plus or uBlock Origin.
Firefox on iOS doesn't let you install add-ons (because of Apple).
Edit: I should have noted there are ways to block ads on iOS and that iOS 9 added support for content blockers. Here's how you can do it with Adblock Plus.
What proof are you looking for? It's not like it's a secret that they accept money for placement in the list. It's been thoroughly reported on and has been discussed on the company blog.
Everyone should be responsible enough to install Ad-Blocker in their browser. It's free, open source, easy, and extremely effective. Authorize ads on a case-by-case basis only on domains you deem worthy. It will change your web experience for the best, and you'll be doing the right thing.
Also do not link to CNN directly unless it is absolutely necessary, in case some fool doesn't have adblocker.
The problem I see with this boycott/ban of CNN (apart from the fact it is a collective measure which negates the individuals' own responsibility) is that it entails a list that is likely to grow in the future. It sets a dangerous precedent.
Which one? AdBlock plus or the regular AdBlock? There's a setting in AdBlock plus that shows "Acceptable ads" that can be turned off any time.
Edit: From my understanding everyone is freaking out about the Acceptable Ads program that has been there for a long time now.
Here's some info on what Acceptable Ads means, what the criteria is for ads so be whitelisted and how to opt out.
ThumperLovesValve had seen somewhere that it might be so that they make it permanent in the future, but that's not the case at the moment and for now we got no source on this.
What I think is the biggest crime here is how you can just browse the internet (and in particular SMH) without using Ad Block Plus. You really should not be subjected to ridiculous bandwidth chewing ads and a bloated experience.
Try this Adblock addon (written by the same team): https://adblockplus.org/en/elemhidehelper
Intuitive selector that makes it a lot easier to write your own rules. I have a few for almost every site I visit (sidebars, comments, etc)
You may enjoy these rules. To add: open up Adblock preferences, go to "Custom filters", add a group, then add filters:
facebook.com###appsNav facebook.com###interestsNav facebook.com###listsNav facebook.com###pagesNav facebook.com###pagelet_trending_tags_and_topics facebook.com###pagelet_ego_pane facebook.com###pagelet_ego_contextual_group facebook.com###pagelet_megaphone facebook.com###timeline_info_review_unit
What these rules remove:
IMHO, Facebook is unusably noisy without these rules. Hope this helps!
Ad block plus has non root options https://adblockplus.org/android-install
Or
Firefox for android supports blocking / ad block plugins https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/android/
Edit: I do find 1Blocker on iOS more seem less however.
>Disable Malware Domains
>Slow startup, popups, advertisers hijacking your browser: Those are all signs of your computer being infected by malware. Even worse, computers infected by malware open the doors to all kinds of cyber criminality threats. These infected computers can then be used to sending out spam emails or attacking other computers or servers, stealing passwords, social security numbers, personal documents and credit card information. Adblock Plus can be configured to block domains known to spread malware, protecting your computer against viruses, Trojan horses, worms, spy- and adware.
>To enable this feature now, please open this dialogue and click “Add” to protect yourself against malicious domains. If you wish to disable this feature, please read here how to do this.
> It's AB that was accused of extorting ad companies, not ABP.
You have it reversed. ABP accepts money from advertisers to show their ads. AB does not and exists solely on donations.
Whaaaat? You've never heard of the plugin AdBlocker? You know it works... right? I'm not supposed to give my opinion, but give it a try and then you can tell me if you see ads or not.
Still doesn't convince you?
Let me tell you something. The plugins free and that's a great price.
Hi there,
This isn't an issue with Adblock Plus and its default or recommended Filters as we vet all of them thoroughly.
The issue potentially applies to any non-trusted and unverified Filter lists.
However we are already working on eliminating any risk for our users - find our full statement here: https://adblockplus.org/blog/potential-vulnerability-through-the-url-rewrite-filter-option
An update for this specific issue will follow soon.
Cheers,
-Jessy
People got butthurt about ABP having the "allow acceptable ads" option enabled which allows advertisers who pay to be part of that program have their ads shown. Which, at first glance, sounds nefarious and greedy. But when you look at what ABP deems an "acceptable" ad, it really isn't nefarious or bad.
Lots of websites (reddit, your favorite web comic, etc.), YouTube channels, and small projects depend on ad revenue to stay afloat but a lot of ad networks have a history of getting compromised or having obnoxious ads (pop ups, pop unders, flash, increased loads times, etc.) so it's pretty standard practice to have an ad blocker but few people really whitelist anything. Something like the acceptable ad program was kind of needed, imo. Content creators and free but heavily trafficed sites or services like reddit need some kind of revenue stream to keep doing what they do and ads are really the most viable way, user opt-in revenue streams (donations, patreons, gold, etc.) tend to not have a lot of penetration or the same consistency.
Please consider The Acceptable Ads Initiative: https://adblockplus.org/acceptable-ads
It still shows some ads to help free-to-use services, but blocks the really annoying ads that don't meet size, placement and content requirements.
It has to be installed manually, since google removed it from the app store. The best non-root way to block adds is to use the AdBlock browser, otherwise it only blocks on wifi and after manually changing a lot of phone settings. You can download both Here.
Oh, thank you. I just learned this. And then found how to remove this. Adblock even made a page on how to remove this, in case it helps : https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads
I must recognize that as this page says, I'm not totally against adds (see bottom (page, not mine)). Only intrusive ones. But I prefer being able to choose sites to whitelist for non intrusive adds than to find adblock chooses for me, and only for sites I support
To be really fair, Adblock Plus in Chrome has known issues -- namely it can't block in-video ads. I imagine Adblock cannot do this either (since it's due to Chrome's extension API -- though I hear this is something that'll be possible in 2012)
It's not just "pay us", it's "follow our strict standards and, if you are a very large website, pay us." According to their FAQ, they only charge websites who would gain "more than 10 million additional ad impressions per month due to participation in the Acceptable Ads initiative."
I don't get why people complain about this. In the long run, the internet can't survive without advertising. Giving websites a way to maintain their revenue stream while still blocking annoying ads is a good thing.
And if you really want to, you can just turn it off. There's a checkbox for it in the settings. Easy as that.
I'm pretty sure it's been there for at least 4+ years now.
I think the first time I noticed it was when I first registered my reddit account.
edit: Coming up on 5 years now that they've had the "feature" https://adblockplus.org/development-builds/allowing-acceptable-ads-in-adblock-plus
This! Ad-blockers are now important for security! I recommend ABP for non-tech users and ublock-origin for techies. https://adblockplus.org/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm
Are you sure it doesn't exist on Android?
Edit: Since the big text people see is for their new browser: if you guys read the small text there is a download to the android AdBlock application (NOT their browser!) [link]. However, it only works on WiFi by making you route all your traffic through it (unless you have a rooted device, where this step is unnecessary).
HD | TNT 720p 60fps UStream | English | Ad Overlays: 0 Pop: 1 | Mobile:Yes | PS4: Yes
Knicks vs Thunder + Clippers vs Lakers + Inside the NBA
Install Ad Block Plus on PC or Ad Block Browser on Mobile to stop the Ustream video ads.
Ustream Multi-Rates: 480p and 720p. It will be set to AUTO by default. Click the HD button bottom right of player to choose a specific resolution.
If you use Adblock Plus it's probably the non-intrusive ads option: https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads
Also mandatory "did you know that uBlock is better" speil: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm?hl=en
> ABP works fine for me and it's perfectly fast enough. Why should I change
Just because it's good enough doesn't mean it can't be better also some people still run a laptop from 2006 which needs as much ram as possible
> It's also open source
Fair enough, I was mistaken
> doesn't whitelist ads
https://adblockplus.org/acceptable-ads
> no data collection.
Browser version Extension version Operating system, Date of last update, IP address
> It's owned by a company and so what?
Companies tend to get sold out, or just not do the right thing, as we've seen time and time again
> What would happen if the ublock origin guy got sued instead of ABP? Think long and hard before thinking of an answer.
I like to think some big org like eff would get involved and help but I agree he would've probably lost
Additionaly ublock origin includes a lot of features that(as far as I know) aren't included in adp
HD | ESPN 720p 60fps UStream | English | Ad Overlays: 0 Pop: 1 | Mobile:Yes | PS4: Yes
Cavaliers vs Bucks + Warriors vs Pelicans
Install Ad Block Plus on PC or Ad Block Browser on Mobile to stop the Ustream video ads.
Ustream Multi-Rates: It will be set to AUTO by default. Click the HD button bottom right of player to choose a specific resolution.
> This is like if Windows would recognize that a png image was actually a .reg file and executed the registry changes when you tried to view the image.
Old IE actually had issues like that.
Adblock plus
They have a whitelist, to get on the whitelist your ads need to follow certain rules. That whitelist allows advertisers who aren't obnoxious to still give you ads
You don't get annoyed, ad people still get money. You can even whitelist certain sites so if you want to support a webcomic (for example) you can still let ads run on those pages
Edit: https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads all the info you need, this is the one I use
> then now they have to pay again to some other company to have it be allowed to be viewed by people
To be fair to ABP, that's not that they're paying for. Ads can get whitelisted with no payment, provided the ad developer actually goes and reads the requirements for whitelisting and implements them on their own. If they don't want to go to that effort, they pay ABP who go "Here's what you need to change before we'll whitelist your adverts". It's more of a not-doing-your-homework tax.
I didn't go into much detail with my previous comment, but I'll do so now.
For 95% of users, WebKit's first-party content blocking is a huge step towards better privacy and security. Even with extension reviews and open source codebases, you're still very much at the mercy of adblock publishers when using their extensions.
Consider AdBlock Plus, an open source, community-backed extension. In 2013 it pushed a questionable monetization method called typo correction, which silently changes Amazon and other affiliate links to their own ID. Under the guise of being an opt-in feature, they actually prompted users to enable typo correction whenever they entered a malformed URL with the message "Do you want Adblock Plus to correct typos to protect you from malicious websites?"
AdBlock Plus' typo correction is just one example of the tremendous power extensions have over your browsing. Additionally, 3rd-party open source is a paradoxical thing. When is the last time you compiled the extension and did a hash comparison of what you installed onto your system? Most people would trust Apple's (open source) WebKit implementation infinitely more than something delivered by an arbitrary developer. Things like the HoverZoom malware scandal should really make it clear that installing browsing extensions incurs risk. Browser sandboxes don't protect against extensions sending your credit card input entries to some server in Russia.
Anyway, I've written far too much. You're right in that Apple hasn't done anything magical. Rather they've brought ad/tracker blocking to the masses, at the right time, in a way that doesn't compromise the user experience. I'd expect nothing less from Apple.
Facebook is everywhere and in business with everyone.
At a minimum, you should be using Firefox with AdblockPlus, and Ghostery.
And IMHO, unless you absolutely need Facebook for business reasons, you should scrub your profile as best as you can and then delete your account.
HD | 720p 60fps USTREAM | English | Ad Overlays:1 | Mobile:Yes | Console:Yes
Install Ad Block Plus on PC or Ad Block Browser on Mobile to stop the random USTREAM video ads.
You obviously don't know that there's adblock for android too. A little buggy but it works
EDIT: OK looks like the app disappeared from play store. Probably you have to download it from the official website, i honestly don't remember.
EDIT2: yep i checked you have to install it from the official website https://adblockplus.org
Adblock plus on android creates a proxy which routes your network traffic through it in order to block ads. It is mistakenly picked up as the source of that traffic because of that. Source https://adblockplus.org/en/android-faq#traffic
If you are rooted adaway works much better and doesn't have that problem.
Adblock Plus has a way for you to get your website whitelisted, at least by default - as long as they meet non-annoying ad guidelines. (i.e. users can turn off the whitelist...) See here.
I didn't explicitly whitelist reddit, yet I still have ads on reddit.
A lot of those are ads, you should be running ad block plus on your browser to insure you're not going to fake or fictitious sites through rouge links... If you're not already. https://adblockplus.org/ then after install it'll bring up a page of extras and enable the malware block option.
Nonsense!
>Before you download Adblock Plus to your Android device, make sure app installation from unknown sources is allowed by Android:
>Open Settings and go to Unknown sources option (under Applications or Security depending on your device)
>Tap the checkbox and confirm the upcoming message with OK
I haven't seen an ad in over a year on YouTube, or anywhere else I go in the interwebs. (Hulu is the only exception.)
The only wrinkle is that you occasionally have to "tap to refresh" every so often at the beginning of the video. Small price to pay.
I don't use Apple stuff, so I'm unsure how to help there. Hopefully someone can chime in with a similar fix.
Adblock Plus is now allowing certain “acceptable” ads to be displayed, but the user can opt out (I have). These aren't paid for, rather, they have to meet certain requirements (listed here).
However, if you're talking about the other Adblock for Safari and Chrome (which I used to use until ABP finally released a Safari version), I can't answer. I've heard rumors that Adblock sold out and allowed certain ads through, but I haven't seen any evidence of it myself. The only thing I've experienced (and this is with ABP as well) is that often Youtube ads won't be blocked. But I'm pretty sure that this is a limitation with the way Safari prefetches resources in Flash objects, or something like that.
Edit: I've just seen your reply to emcniece. I wasn't aware of that, and it's quite disappointing. Hopefully somebody will take up the total ad-blocking mantle again.
I had the same problem and the fix linked there, fixed it 100% no more annoying youtube adds:)
HD | TNT 720p 60fps UStream | English | Ad Overlays: 1 | Mobile:Yes | PS4: Yes
Install Ad Block Plus on PC or Ad Block Browser on Mobile to stop the Ustream pre-roll video ads.
Ustream Multi-Rates: It will be set to AUTO by default. Click the HD button bottom right of player to choose a specific resolution.
Celtics vs Bucks + Pelicans vs Kings + Inside the NBA
HD | 720p 60fps NBATV UStream | English | Ad Overlays: 0 Pop: 1 | Mobile:Yes | PS4: Yes
Install Ad Block Plus on PC or Ad Block Browser on Mobile to stop the Ustream pre-roll video ads.
Ustream Multi-Rates: It will be set to AUTO by default. Click the HD button bottom right of player to choose a specific resolution.
NBA TV Pregame + Raptors vs Spurs
If they had kept it a secret like WOT, I would agree with you. But they've been quite upfront about it and let people know about it on their website.
https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads
We might not agree with their concept but at least they haven't been dishonest about it.
Untick the box and that list is toast.
Amazing post. Thanks for the details and extra tricks through customisation via the Terminal.
The only thing I want to comment on is your choice of Adblock plugin. Adblock plus is allowing some paid "non-intrusive" ads, which in my opinion boils down to paying to circumvent being blocked (read more here: https://adblockplus.org/acceptable-ads-agreements).
Recently I've been using uBlock origin and I like it. It's a great (open source) alternative, which will hopefully forever stay away from these kinds of shenanigans.
Download for Chrome here: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm?hl=en
I think it's one checkbox in the settings... edit:
>But I hate all ads!
No problem, you can disable this feature at any time:
Chrome, Maxthon, Opera, Safari - Click the Adblock Plus icon and select Options. Uncheck Allow some nonintrusive advertising.
Firefox - Click the Adblock Plus icon and select Filter preferences. Uncheck Allow some nonintrusive advertising.
Internet Explorer - Click the Adblock Plus icon and select Settings. Uncheck Allow some nonintrusive advertising.
Adblock Browser for Android - Open Settings, tap Ad blocking > Configure Acceptable Ads and uncheck Allow some nonintrusive advertising.
Adblock Browser for iOS - Open Settings, tap Adblock Plus > Acceptable Ads and uncheck Allow some nonintrusive ads.
Adblock Plus for iOS - Open Adblock Plus for iOS from the Home menu, tap the Settings icon > Acceptable Ads and uncheck Allow some nonintrusive ads.
> Adblock plus don't want no ads they want better nicer ads.
That you have to pay them for. 30% of the whitelist revenue, in fact. They try to justify this by saying that "90% of our partners aren't charged", ignoring the fact that the remaining 10% drive the vast majority of the ads (what percentage of ads on the internet are run by Google, you think?) and the 90% that they're "not charging" would barely give ABP any profit after the legal fees involved in the arrangement.
ABP wants to be profitable. That's it. Holding the companies up to an "Acceptable ads" standard is a way for them to avoid destroying their own userbase; their per-user revenue would go up by letting in any ad but their user count would go down as a result. They're just using public relations tactics in order to stay popular:
> We're not doing this for money, we're doing this to help you! Really!
ABP has decided to turn their software into a racket in order to sustain the development. That's their choice, just the way it's the choice of people to move to a different program.
> They are sold to a private organization and have special payed list of "allowed" ads.
Which you can turn off and still get a 100% ad-free experience.