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Short answer - no. The hype around Ethereum and the dapps that will be built on top of it are what is driving the price rise. Governments, banks and other large institutions are showing interest left and right, and with good reason. There's a good chance that Ethereum will be what underpins the next generation of a whole bunch of internet-based services. Definitely worth reading about. I'm personally pumped for Golem, a blockchain-based fog computing application.
Well JPMorgan, BP, Deloitte, Microsoft, Intel, MasterCard, and many others all think Ethereum has value.
But for a more in-depth answer, it's because cryptocurrencies are crazy ambitious in the problems they're trying to solve, and so far, they're doing a pretty good job.
I.e. this is just not true: >but most of the coins, outside of something like Euthereum, promise nothing in return except the promise of high returns due to speculative increase
Almost every coin promises something awesome (and inherently hard to evaluate). Here's an example of just two of them:
GNT: Golem aims to take huge processing jobs (e.g. rendering a Pixar film), and distribute the work over a network of devices (e.g. your personal computer). It then pays all the processors proportionally by how much work they contributed to the final result. And it does all of this automatically.
BAT: Basic Attention Token aims to pay users directly for watching ads (again completely automatically). It's headed up by Brendan Eich, who created the Javascript programming language as well as co-founded Mozilla.
I'd be interested to know how long this whole process would take if you used Brass Golem when it arrives (hopefully in May): https://golem.network/alpha.html
If you haven't heard of it, it's a decentralised cloud computing service running on the Ethereum Blockchain, that can be used with Blender for CGI rendering, among other things.
If you haven't even read the whitepaper (the credentials start p. 25) you should indeed start doing some homework before investing and spare us the passive-aggressive fearmongering.
It's not so much a currency, as it's a blockchain technology. Smart contracts allow for decentralised cloud storage (Storj), decentralised computer power (Golem), management of decentralised autonomous organisations (Aragon) and much more in the pipeline.
Bitcoin is the most robust system for storing wealth. Ethereum is less robust, but far more flexible with the possibilities.
Okay so paste in here where you see this info?
First of all Golem is on 2 exchanges so far in its first 9 days of existance. Second that picture from Bittrex Bill is taken from? Bittrex Slack? Third Golem can not restrict any exchange from listing tokens. Fourth if Bittrex Billy wasnt such a lazy ass he would not ask for Golem to contact him on his own Bittrex Slack, no he would go maybe to their website and email them? Am i wrong https://golem.network/ Or he could come over and ask a bloody question on Golems Slack
When i want something i dont tweet to my firends telling them i want Bittrex to contact me, No i would tweet to Bittrex
Bittrex Bill would want to get off his high horse and make contact, Bittrex will be the ones making trading fees not the bloody Golem Devs
And your 1 quote from Julian sums up nothing, you took 1 sentance of what he said and wrote a story about it. Read the bloody rest of his comments
Ur spewing shite, there are 820,000,000 GNT tokens out there and any exchange that wishes to list then can do so
You can back up your Golem wallet as per https://golem.network/documentation/10-backing-up-your-golem-wallet/
There will always be people who lose access to their wallets, send their GNT to wrong addresses etc. There’s not a whole lot that can be done about that, but since it reduces available supply it’s kind of a good thing for other GNT holders.
Golem's scope is much larger. It strives to be a decentralized marketplace for computing resources which is not possible without blockchain tech, whatever the trolls in residence here might think or say (which most likely isn't the same). Read the whitepaper:
https://golem.network/doc/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
Especially p. 6:
"Long term vision: Golem as a building block of Web 3.0
We believe the future Internet will be a truly decentralized network, enabling users to securely and directly exchange content, without sharing it with corporations or other middlemen. Accordingly, Golem will be useful not only to compute specific tasks, but also to bulk-rent machines in order to perform operations within a self-organizing network. Of course, this will require the simultaneous development of other technologies, many of which have gained significant traction in recent years.
Better data-sharing technologies are necessary, but taking into account the ongoing development of IPFS/Filecoin and Swarm, the appropriate solutions seem to be within reach. Eventually, the Ethereum network will become more scalable, more efficient, and include a fully functional network of micropayment channels. Once these technologies become available, it is easy to imagine Golem primarily as a platform for microservices, allowing users to run both small (e.g. a note-taking app) and large (e.g. a streaming service) applications in a completely decentralized way. Although ambitious, this vision seems to be the ultimate argument for Golem’s long-term potential."
You cannot mine Golem. But you can run Golem as a Provider and earn GNT from Requestors on the network. You can download and install Golem here:
https://golem.network/rendering/download/
You can learn more about how to use Golem from our docs and videos:
docs.golem.network
https://golem.network/rendering/download/ (videos can be found under the "How to Use?" header.
Yes this means you can use Golem. But the first use case is rendering for Blender, so it's not for gaming. There are a few analysis on gaming on our subreddit r/golemproject .
And how can you run golem? we actually put in place some pretty neat step by step guide https://golem.network/documentation/understanding-beta/ .
And some videos are up as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19viaYSrXOc&list=PLUI4Ar_XRbhaD2hLrz1RXbI4dJ6dkH7xi .
And for support: https://chat.golem.network/channel/testers
You can currently download and test the alpha. Note that as this is still an alpha version and on the Rinkeby testnet, you won't be able to earn or spend real GNT yet (such as the GNT you purchased from Coinspot), but you will be given 1000 tGNT (tesnet GNT) and a small amount of tETH (testnet ETH) so that you are able to help test the alpha. If you are interested in doing this, I recommend signing up to the [Golem RocketChat server] and joining the #testers channel so that you can get troubleshooting help as needed.
People are still throwing around quotes from the old whitepaper. It has been updated and it is very clear in the matter at hand (p. 7):
"Golem Network Token (GNT)
The Golem Network Token ("GNT") account is a core component of Golem and is designed to ensure flexibility and control over the future evolution of the project. GNT is created during the crowdfunding period (described in this whitepaper) and, following the first major release of Golem, GNT will be attributed a variety of functions in the Golem network.
● Payments from requestors to providers for resource usage, and remuneration for software developers is going to be exclusively conducted in GNT.
● Once the Application Registry and Transaction Framework are implemented, GNT will be necessary for other interactions with Golem, such as submitting deposits by providers and software developers or participation in the process of software validation and certification (as described in the Application Registry section).
● The general conditions for using GNT will be set in the Transaction Framework, but specific parameters of these interactions will be possible to define within each software integration.
The supply of GNT will be limited to the pool of tokens created during crowdfunding period."
Where did you get those figures from? They certainly aren't the figures in the whitepaper's roadmap:
https://golem.network/doc/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
Iron is scheduled to be completed 36-48 months from crowdfunding.
> Zurück zu Spielstopp und meiner Idee: Ich kann mir vorstellen, dass in Zukunft solche Dienstleitungen auch im Blockchain und NFT Bereich aufkommen werden
Ist total plausibel. Es gibt ja sehr wohl bereits einige verteilte Computing-Services (z.B. golem1). Zudem gibt es auch schon dezentrale Video- und Music-Streaming Protokolle (z.B. theta2 bzw. audius3)
Man muss diese Protokolle, und jene, die noch kommen werden, einfach zu innovativen Produkten zusammenbündeln und verkaufen.
https://golem.network/documentation/03-installation/
Minimum Requirements to run Golem:
We support Windows 10, OS X Sierra and higher, and Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
In general we recommend a processor with multiple cores and lots of RAM. At minimum, you can run Golem with:
2 GB RAM 2 cores 20 GB HDD public IP or ability to forward ports or router with UPnP activated
For more demanding renders like the Production Benchmark you will need at least:
16 GB RAM 6 cores
> Could someone explain to me how the Golem network works?
Start by reading through the whitepaper and the blog posts then post again here if you have more specific questions.
> Does it use a traditional blockchain?
It uses the Ethereum blockchain for handling payments in GNT (GNT aka Golem Network Tokens are Ethereum based tokens).
> What stops someone from "stealing" rendered animations or information?
There are multiple factors that make it hard for a provider to view what is being computed (the subtask runs inside a Docker container, the subtask is only a portion of the whole task, a provider doesn't get to choose which subtasks they will get), however it is (at least currently) still possible for someone who is determined enough to see what is being computed on their own node.
This is my 3rd post on Golem today so it might sound like shilling but it's not. The concept is just really fascinating to me.
I own 0 GNT but I decided to set it up today after hearing they launched on ETH mainnet.
The concept is pretty cool. It doesn't run 24/7 like mining ETH or BTC. Whenever someone is available that wants to use your compute power then you start earning coins. It only uses cpu right now but they have said they are looking to add gpu at some point.
I honestly have no idea if this project will make it, but what if it does? In 5-10 years it could 100x so why not try it out? You've got nothing to lose really. This is only day two so I feel pretty good about getting in at launch.
0:00 - Gavin Wood
- Ethereum Founder
- Parity Founder
0:03 - Vitalik Buterin
- Just some guy
0:16 - The DAO
- Dapp that crowdfunded $150mm. Exploit was found and money was drained.
0:28 - Barry Silbert, The DAO, Dash, Ethereum Classic
1:07 - Charles Hoskinson
1:42 - Alex van de Sande
1:44 - Vlad Zamfir
- Casper lead
- Has been working on the analysis and specification of PoS blockchain architecture for Ethereum
1:46 - Satoshi Nakamoto*
1:49 - Joseph Lubin
- ConsenSys CEO
1:53 - Jeffrey Wilcke
2:25 - Augur
2:29 - Akasha
2:35 - Golem
2:44 - State of Dapps
- List of all Dapps and their current states.
2:52 - Doughnut
- /u/jtnichol and /u/cyounessi
2:58 - Doge Coin
- Doge
2:59 - Vinay Gupta
3:06 - Holdor
3:07 - Rootstock
3:13 - Nick Johnson
3:33 - Enterprise Ethereum Alliance
- Enterprises coming together and forming an alliance using Ethereum
Help me fill in the unknowns. I will add details shortly.
No need to buy new hardware to set up a node, any laptop or desktop would work just fine. With such little demand (Golem only supporting 1 use case currently) there is very little tasks availabe for you to get your rig working on. This is also the beauty of Golem. Currently you don't need an 18 core CPU and 4 Titan XP's to earn a decent amount of GNT. However, this should improve in the future. For now, just get your everyday computer and download the client at golem.network and follow the instructions there. Otherwise, I suggest heading over to chat.golem.network to get some more help there. If you only run Golem when you are online, the node is Always profitable, that is my take on it ;)
Long term vision: Golem as a building block of Web 3.0
We believe the future Internet will be a truly decentralized network, enabling users to securely and directly exchange content, without sharing it with corporations or other middlemen. Accordingly, Golem will be useful not only to compute specific tasks, but also to bulk-rent machines in order to perform operations within a self-organizing network. Of course, this will require the simultaneous development of other technologies, many of which have gained significant traction in recent years.
Better data-sharing technologies are necessary, but taking into account the ongoing development of IPFS/Filecoin and Swarm, the appropriate solutions seem to be within reach. Eventually, the Ethereum network will become more scalable, more efficient, and include a fully functional network of micropayment channels. Once these technologies become available, it is easy to imagine Golem primarily as a platform for microservices, allowing users to run both small (e.g. a note-taking app) and large (e.g. a streaming service) applications in a completely decentralized way. Although ambitious, this vision seems to be the ultimate argument for Golem’s long-term potential.
https://golem.network/doc/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
p. 6
Here you can view a snapshot of each team member's background and experience via their LinkedIn profile. And here Ethereum cofounder Gavin Wood praises their work at IMAPP for the Etheruem Foundation. One of the devs is still part of the EF. Another dev created the DEVp2p protocol for Ethereum. To find out more, you have to do more research, for example, by asking people who are well-respected developers/researchers in the Ethereum community.
Golem is a project aimed at doing something similar but decentralized and not controlled and priced entirely by Google.
I'm as far from an expert as they come so if they're not as similar as I think then, my b
Read the white paper if you're interested: https://golem.network/doc/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
Your concern is valid, and Golem's main source of risk is potential competition. The EEA is going to exponentially grow Ethereum's private/Enterprise developer base. However, this is true of every dApp currently being developed. It's no more or less risky than throwing your "penny stock" cash into Iconomi or Melon, for instance.
That being said, right now there aren't any other projects that have made substantive headway in singleton network rendering. Could somebody else start a similar blockchain project? Yes. Has anybody started? Not to my knowledge.
Right now the Golem team has all the funding they need, and so far, they're the only horse in the race.
> Yes, months of supporting the project and getting fucked over because they didn't insure their "recommended" steps would actually work makes me mad. Guess I'm a greedy asshole
How would you propose that the Golem team test the readiness of someone else's live servers? Let me remind you that the crowdfunding period was 21 days. So there was about three orders of magnitude more interest than they anticipated.
Additionally, there was a caveat emptor (almost literally) in the instructions
> Ethereum, Smart Contract System and wallet applications are not developed within the Golem Project, so the instructions below are provided under the assumption that these services work as research ed at the moment of this manual’s creation.
Cool that we are covered.
There is however a problem: information around 1:00 and later is not accurate. There is no fee sharing mechanism! We made that clear on the number of occasions!
Please refer to our blog and crowdfunding page for details.
https://golem.network/documentation/09-common-issues-troubleshooting/docker-errors-on-windows-10/
In order for Golem to work it needs to create a Docker VM, this allows for computations to be completed in an isolated environement from the Requestor and Provider host machines.
Hey Feedbands,
It seems golem had an error on startup, could you check your logs and see if there is any error shown?
https://github.com/golemfactory/golem/wiki/Testing#where-are-the-logs
Usually this means a docker error, if so you can try the steps in: https://golem.network/documentation/09-common-issues-troubleshooting/
Hope this helps, if not please let us know. You can also chat with us directly on https://chat.golem.network in the #testers channel
There is a lot more to the project:
Long term vision: Golem as a building block of Web 3.0
We believe the future Internet will be a truly decentralized network, enabling users to securely and directly exchange content, without sharing it with corporations or other middlemen. Accordingly, Golem will be useful not only to compute specific tasks, but also to bulk-rent machines in order to perform operations within a self-organizing network. Of course, this will require the simultaneous development of other technologies, many of which have gained significant traction in recent years.
Better data-sharing technologies are necessary, but taking into account the ongoing development of IPFS/Filecoin and Swarm, the appropriate solutions seem to be within reach. Eventually, the Ethereum network will become more scalable, more efficient, and include a fully functional network of micropayment channels. Once these technologies become available, it is easy to imagine Golem primarily as a platform for microservices, allowing users to run both small (e.g. a note-taking app) and large (e.g. a streaming service) applications in a completely decentralized way. Although ambitious, this vision seems to be the ultimate argument for Golem’s long-term potential.
Source: Golem whitepaper, p. 6
this is their Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/GolemProject/
This is usually how you sign up for the Slack but it seems to be down: http://golemproject.org:3000/
This is their website: https://golem.network/
I would send them a message, let them know the Slack sign up link is down.
Yes this is a very promising future architecture. With Golem and Trubit, you can pay for calculations with fees way beyond the current block gas limit and processing will be done off chain. I don't think miners have to worry about losing block rewards, because they can still get paid for their computing power.
Hello, all these tasks are recent, the tasks seem completed, but you just need to wait for the batch of transactions to get processed. As per our FAQs:
"Transactions that are awaiting could be due to the other node not verifying the task yet, it could be offline at the moment for example. It also has to do with the timing of batch transactions. GNT is sent to multiple nodes in batches to save users on Gas price. Some batches leave sooner than others. An imperfect but useful analogy would be like a train that waits for a certain number of passengers before it leaves. Network speed and the amount of transactions can change the time GNT is "awaiting". A payment could be rejected if the node went offline at a critical time during verification. In this case, that transaction is likely lost.
This is something that our Concent service will address in the future, right now it is a risk of using the Beta. In this case, the transaction could still be waiting for the node to verify the work completed, IE, download the task."
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That said, it can happen that payments take more than a month.. It can also simply be an issue with the UI as detected here.
Please check your logs, following these instructions and send them over to [email protected] to be able to identify what's going on without assumptions. Thanks
We are at the alpha testnet at the moment, Brass is due for "early 2018". Until then you can't earn the GNT that is traded right now on the exchanges. But it surely helps the project if you hook up your machines up to the testnet and crunch away some tasks!
It's to early to tell.
Here is the whitepapers. It has their timeline and what they expect Golem can do in the future. The timeline is A VERRYYY ROUGH timeline.
Basically, decentralized super computer power for rent. Insanely ambitious but with far-reaching possibilities. Coming in July. This is the time to get aboard.
You'll need to delete the files that store your wallet keys before re-installing. You can find the location depending on your OS here: https://golem.network/documentation/10-backing-up-your-golem-wallet/
Yes. From the whitepaper:
> Golem is a generalized global supercomputer, and as such, it will no doubt find its niche with vastly varied applications. They might need very diverse remuneration models. We are not able to design a one-size-fits-all payment system for Golem, nor will we attempt to force one upon application authors.
> When a developer integrates her application with Golem, she has the freedom to decide which transaction model she implements, as long as it is compliant with Golem's Transaction Framework.
> Example transaction framework components:
> ● Diverse payout schemes such as nanopayments, batching
> ● Off-chain payment channels
> ● Custom receipts
> ● Payment to software developer
> ● Per-unit use of software (per-node, per-hour, etc.)
You can view the whitepaper here - just keep in mind that this was from before the crowdfunding, so the dates are no longer accurate, but the general plan/roadmap is. You should also spend some time reading through the blog posts as they will fill you in on what has happened since then.
Are you using windows? If so, you don't need a zip, you need to download the executable.
https://github.com/golemfactory/golem/releases/download/0.15.1/golem-0.15.1-windows.exe
Edit: I went a few post backs and I believe you are using OS X
Have you gone through these steps to install on MacOS? https://golem.network/rendering/download/
>First, you have to install Homebrew, a package manager for macOS. Paste and run the following script in the terminal:
/usr/bin/ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"
>Afterwards, run the following script in the terminal:
brew tap caskroom/cask brew tap golemfactory/golem brew cask install golem
sudo chown root:wheel $(brew --prefix)/opt/docker-machine-driver-xhyve/bin/docker-machine-driver-xhyve sudo chmod u+s $(brew --prefix)/opt/docker-machine-driver-xhyve/bin/docker-machine-driver-xhyve
You need a few things running in the backgroudn with golem. Mainly Docker and VM core files. If they as well as golem arent working, you wont get past the connection screen. I had issues after a windows refresh, so I uninstalled everything then did a fresh install, imported my wallet files back over and everything was good. You might want to do the same (uninstall VM and docker and golem) just make sure you properly back up your golem mainnet folder properly first using this instruction page
https://golem.network/documentation/11-backing-up-your-golem-app/
No, you don't get reimbursed. You earn money from renting, and then the real income would be actually up to your electricity costs.
I recommend you read the documentation, it has all the info you need https://golem.network/documentation/understanding-beta/ and if you still have doubts, just ask.
Yes you can use your CPU while running Golem :) and you choose the times you decide to be active.
As of right now I believe for Windows OS, Golem only supports Windows 10.
https://golem.network/documentation/03-installation/
"Minimum Requirements to run Golem: We support Windows 10, OS X Sierra and higher, and Ubuntu 16.04 LTS."
Usefulness of the Golem Network Token is explained in the whitepaper as: >Payments from requestors to providers for resource usage, and remuneration for software developers is going to be exclusively conducted in GNT.
- blockchain
- AI
Will be the most sort out thing soon. I have been attracted to blockchain technology for a long time and find the decentralized computing to be the most powerful usecase of blockchain tech. Read here and here
We recently started a cryptocurrency user group in Delhi and will be meeting for the first meetup in July 16
I help moderate the Slack and this subreddit. I'm not a part of Golem Factory GmbH though. My point was that we're not investors in Golem Factory GmbH simply because we hold GNT - we're "investors" in our own holdings only. It's largely a moot point anyway since the team have been very open and transparent. OP is also wrong - the crowdsale terms made it very clear that the team didn't consider them as investors: https://golem.network/doc/GNTterms.pdf
The software for mining Ethereum was optimized using Radeon cards, and the resent price surge has caused a global drought. I mined with a Nvidia card for about a year just cause that is just what I had, but the same equivalently priced Radeon card would have doubled my mining profits. As I mentioned below, Ethereum is moving over to Proof of Stake (POS) within the next year so it seems like a waste of time and money to build all this given you won't be able to mine after the switch. A lot of people have hope the Golem network will be up and running by then to capture all the processing power, but I have my doubts they will have a proper product set up by that time.
Short answer: Noone knows yet.
But for sure it is something the developers have considered. I am thinking it will be regulated by supply/demand, that would only be logical. Please bear in mind "Golem" is not released yet per se. Right now it's an Alpha version. The first "real" Golem release will be Brass and we're all waiting with excitement for that to come.
Please read the offical whitepaper for the developers' big vision - and how to reach that big vision: https://golem.network/doc/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
To answer your first quesiton : https://gyazo.com/820bcbeba0298b78f52c9cc623082542
Their white paper: https://golem.network/doc/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
You can buy it in Pol (Poloniex) and store it in your ethereum wallet.
Read this on their roadmap: https://gyazo.com/51ecbf7b85c99a4f7e1bba3df717643e
This part of Golem Whitepaper addressing that:
>The function of Golem as the backbone of a decentralized market for computing power can be considered both Infrastructure-as-a-Service (IaaS), as well as Platform-as-a-Service (PaaS). However, Golem reveals its true potential by adding dedicated software integrations to the equation. Any interested party is free to create and deploy software to the Golem network by publishing it to the Application Registry. Together with the Transaction Framework, developers can also extend and customize the payment mechanism resulting in unique mechanisms for monetizing software.
0:00 - Gavin Wood
- Ethereum Founder
- Parity Founder
0:03 - Vitalik Buterin
- Just some guy
0:16 - The DAO
- Dapp that crowdfunded $150mm. Exploit was found and money was drained.
0:28 - Barry Silbert, The DAO, Dash, Ethereum Classic
1:07 - ??
1:42 - Alex van de Sande
1:44 - Vlad Zamfir
- Casper lead
- Has been working on the analysis and specification of PoS blockchain architecture for Ethereum
1:46 - ??
1:49 - Joseph Lubin
- ConsenSys CEO
1:53 - Jeffrey Wilcke
2:25 - Augur
2:29 - Akasha
2:35 - Golem
2:44 - State of Dapps
- List of all Dapps and their current states.
2:52 - Doughnut
- /u/jtnichol and /u/cyounessi
2:58 - Doge Coin
- Doge
2:59 - ??
3:06 - ??
3:07 - ??
3:13 - Nick Johnson
3:33 - Enterprise Ethereum Alliance
- Enterprises coming together and forming an alliance using Ethereum
Help me fill in the unknowns. I will add details shortly.
I'm guessing you're making that statement because you've played around with their alpha? https://golem.network/alpha.html
The product isn't in production, but given the scope and the team going heads down, it's definitely worth a little bit of love.
The plan has changed. There is no fee any longer and GNT is used for transactions. Please refer to this blog post for details why we have done that and to whitepaper for details of what is proposed now.
Personally, I love bounties, hackathons, and so on. You'll get the most rewards if you're a developer, BUT you can also earn without being one. The GLM Rewards Program by Golem offers rewards for both developers and non-techy users. There's also GitCoin, which has a list of a lot of bounties and hackathons currently active from tons of projects. You can also find bounties elsewhere but you can spend enough time on these two alone :D
Yes we are always seeking to solve UX issues, and usually every release comes with some improvements in this front. However some issues on port forwarding don't depend on us. We did upgrade all documentation to help those as well, and continue to do so: https://golem.network/documentation/09-common-issues-troubleshooting/port-forwarding-connection-errors/
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I think I heard pretty good things about garagefarm. Then there is golem which is supposedly very powerful and cheap. But I've only ever used Sheepit which is a free community driven renderfarm for blender and the only free renderfarm I've ever heard of.
That's right--market-based incentive was missing until Ethereum came along. Then, building Golem made logical sense--and it's one of the premier Ethereum-based platforms, in my view, with tremendous potential. It's running on the mainnet now and people are earning real money sharing their CPU cycles. It can be downloaded here: https://golem.network/rendering/download/
Hi, thank you for your feedback. The team is analysing it and will answer very soon. Bear with us. In the meantime, please check the troubleshooting for this particular subject: https://golem.network/documentation/09-common-issues-troubleshooting/docker-errors-on-windows-10/
There is already a golem chat in telegram: Golem Network | GNT Semi-official chat moderated by the community and Golem Team. Official: https://chat.golem.network. Golem creates the first global market for idle computer power https://golem.network https://telegram.me/GolemProject
Hello, please set the price to default. As we do not know how much you pay for energy, we are not able to asses this question.
That said, here are our minimum requirements: https://golem.network/documentation/03-installation/ .
As the marketplace is p2p and we got more providers than requestors, earnings are naturally slowed down, but that does not mean that Golem is not able to generate income, just not as fast as some would wish.
If anybody runs into issues, refer to this page for some potential troubleshooting help : https://golem.network/documentation/09-common-issues-troubleshooting/docker-errors-on-windows-10/
Check against the golem error log file, which that page also shows you how to find
Hi! please head to https://golem.network/documentation/understanding-beta/ our tech support team has prepared a pretty neat guide. If that's not enough, please head to our chat https://chat.golem.network/channel/testers
You can check the logs at
~/.local/share/golem/default/mainnet/logs
More info at:
https://golem.network/documentation/understanding-beta/
You can also contact the team at:
https://golem.network/documentation/09-common-issues-troubleshooting/
The commands on this list helped me install the docker and get golem up and running.
what do you see when you input 'docker-machine ls' into the command prompt?
You can check to make sure that your ports are forwarded correctly by checking ports canyouseeme.org while the app is running. Check ports 40102,40103 and 3282.
You may also need to open the ports through your firewall. For router specific instructions on how to forward your ports go to https://portforward.com/
If your connection is good and ports are forwarded then you may need to run docker recovery commands to get the process rolling. You can find instructions here:
https://golem.network/documentation/09-common-issues-troubleshooting/
If you are still having issues after running through these steps, send your logs to and reference this reddit post we can take a closer look.
Golem is so far ahead of SONM, it’s not even a competition right now. Just compare SONM’s “mvp” with Golem’s alpha.
As for your "downsides":
Golem does have a community (just check the number on the right hand side of this page).
Golem does have a live product: https://golem.network/alpha.html
And the fact that other, centralized players like Amazon, Google and Microsoft are already active in this field only goes to show that there is money to be made here.
Ethereum doesn't work like a traditional server. It executes smart contracts. That means you can build applications that will run forever and are immutable. For example there's a new game built on top of Ethereum called CryptoKitties, that allows you to buy, sell and breed virtual cats. Because each cat is a non-fungible asset on the Blockchain, even if the developers of the game would just walk away and disappear, the game would still keep running and you would still keep your cats.
Ethereum is basically a platform to develop decentralized applications.
There are some projects built on Ethereum, though, that you might be interested in for your specific use case. SONM for example, is building an decentralized computation platform. They actually did a demo of a CS:GO game server running on their platform, that would keep on running as long as it is being paid for. https://sonm.io
Another one is Golem, which isn't going for exactly the same thing as SONM, but rather aiming at heavy tasks such as rendering 3D files, which they demoed by rendering a blender file on their decentralized network. https://golem.network
Hope this helps :)
> https://golem.network/doc/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
This is literally the only bit about use cases other than CGI rendering:
"it is easy to imagine Golem primarily as a platform for microservices, allowing users to run both small (e.g. a note-taking app) and large (e.g. a streaming service) applications in a completely decentralized way. "
Why would anyone run a note-taking app on a decentralized compute system when you can run it on your local machine? This is so asinine I am baffled as to how they could include this in the white paper. Then you have streaming services - okay. What makes these streaming services effective in a decentralized manner? Why would it be any better to run a streaming service on 1000 machines vs 1. Costs? I have stated that cost economics of GNT make zero sense in another thread.
Instead of quoting a white paper that has zero information, perhaps think of some actual tangible, realistic examples? Oh sorry, I don't think you could because GNT team themselves couldn't think of any. CGI rendering, protein folding, looking for extraterrestial life is already all done on cloud platforms. I don't see how golem changes anything.
Brass is Golem's proof of concept, a network for rendering only. See the whitepaper p. 13:
https://golem.network/doc/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
As for a general purpose computer (not necessarily getting your "Mac to run faster") the Golem team is cooperating with QubesOS:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GolemProject/comments/6yvist/news_operating_systems_to_run_on_golem/
I didn't feel the need to cite a source of every goddamn p2p project being worked on in blockchain. But here are some real solutions being created right now.
https://golem.network A world super computer
http://sia.tech Decentralized, secure, private data storage 10x cheaper than Amazons AWS or Microsoft Azure
https://www.factom.com A solution for backing up sensitive data. Back by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the US dept of Homeland Security. Factom is already working with Japan to backup their entire social security system.
Here is some evidence for you bud. If you would rather remain hostile and argue semantics, then I don't see the point of engaging any further.
Golem and Sia both interest me.
Golem is cloud computing, where users can rent/hire usage of CPU/GPU power to/from computers around the world.
Sia is cloud storage, where users can rent/hire storage to/from other people.
Where are you based? I use Coinbase and Bitpanda (from UK), and i've used Shapeshift and Poloniex to exchange for alt coins. No problems with any of them other than Coinbase (downtime, difficulty adding a card, problems with payment).
1 billion is the total number of tokens created. Only 820 million were distributed to crowdfunding participants.
https://golem.network/doc/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
Page 7 has the full breakdown of distribution
Edit: corrected the whitepaper link to final version
or not, given that 180m GNT can potentially be dumped on to the market next week: https://golem.network/doc/GNTterms.pdf | https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/690dfb/reminder_180_million_gnt_to_be_unlocked_and_freed/
> But this is no different than how any interested developer could earn fees on the platform, correct?
Correct.
> To what extent is software developed for the platform by the golem team going to be closed source, vs all platform code will be open source?
I believe they could make it closed source. It would be up to providers to decide if they want to run it.
> Do you have a source to somewhere that the golem team clarifies this?
Page 6 of the whitepaper: "...could also become an interesting way to distribute existing proprietary and open source software."
https://golem.network/ - so I am currently thinking about customers. SJCX has proven that there is demand for decentralized cloud space cheaper than Dropbox or AWS. Is the same true for EC2? We all know there is incredible demand for on-demand servers with CPU/GPUs, which is basically driving the internet at this point. Cloud services are an integral part of the internet.
if you're not using your computer, you can consider letting other people use it! come checkout golem, a distributed super computer similar to Folding@Home, but for all kinds of computation not just protein research. You even earn some money and it's really easy to get started.
This is where the math of VPS on demand for testing vs home starts to matter. OR higher buy in but lower ongoing is SBC boards. Raspberry pi, turingpi, ION whatever boards from nvidia. All have higher cost, more limited abilities (in some ways) but FOR SURE are way lower power/heat than traditional low initial cost/higher ongoing. It's a common issue. Getting yourself a NAS or ESOS or SAN or whatever as an always on, mount it on the projects you need as storage. Depends on what you want, but an always on computer can do a hell of allot. golem.network, idle mining, BOINC for science, etc etc. Dunno, GLHF
No, Golem is an infrastructure project that provides web 3 developers with decentralized computing power that they can pay for with an erc-20 token. We've been here since 2014, and probably our websiteis the best place to get to know us better
Hello, Golem is a private company, and development and community building have never stopped. There are no reasons for "refunds". Please refer to crowdfunding terms in case of any questions.
Have you had a look at https://golem.network ?
This is the main reason I bought up a ton of GNT, because that will be the cryptocurrency that any future AI will be fighting over. It's a currency representing tangible compute power.
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It's just a suggestion if case want to try maximize the tasks your node completes, not a requirement. You can run Golem with Windows too just by going to the download page. Looking at the stats page I'd guess 30-40% of nodes are Windows OS.
RNDR is targeted on putting idle GPU to use for 3D VFX rendering: simulations, augmented reality, holodeck technology whilst also keeping open the opportunity for open-ended GPU jobs. RNDR jobs are submitted from the OctaneRender VFX software by the parent company OTOY, and there are plugins for many different ecosystems that include a number of AutoDesk products, as well as Blender.
Golem is a more a general purpose computation platform, for CPU and GPU. One of the applications they support is Blender, but the focus is much more broad.
Render Protocol's clear focus compliment the successful parent company OTOY's products, track record of over 10 years and the connections and network that arise from that. Check out OTOY's advisory board to give you an idea of their connections :)
Hey! As you may know we can't assess you financially, or even make a prediction of what's to come. You are the only one responsible for your financial choices. GNT is a utility token and it's been on the free market since the end of 2016, so we have no control over the price and fluctuations.
I believe as well, that you bought on the open market, not on the Crowdfunding - but I think that the same advice that went to the Crowdfunding people would work for you. You bought in a project and a vision, not a house, or a gold bar. You funded development - and we did not make any promiseson return on invest to our token holders because we crowdfunded to finance the building of the project.
We are really building the best platform we can and researching on enhancing utility, but we don't know if this will impact you in the way you want.
I believe that the best place to find some kind of advice from the trader community is u/golemtrader
I see that Clay released a few weeks ago. Essentially no effect on price. I guess when a project is so insanely late, people lose interest.
It was over two years late, on a 15 month schedule:
Golem White paper: https://golem.network/crowdfunding/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
>Clay Golem should be delivered within 15 months after end of crowdfunding period
ICO date: https://icobench.com/ico/golem
November 16, 2016.
Adding 1.25 years to the ICO date gives ~February 2018. The date of release of Clay Golem Beta 0.23.0 was April 2, 2020 according to the blog.
Golem was a neat idea, but it's become irrelevant. Anyone looking for distributed computing has much faster and more reliable options available.
Hello! Mattias here, I’m the new Community Manager working with Golem as of this week.
>Wanted to see if you could share what you're seeing with the new use case?
The API has two parts to it, requestor and provider. New use cases would relate to both sides and also to external developers who will build their own use-cases on top of the task API where new use cases depend on what developers come up with. An example of an app would be the Tutorial App. It’s good to keep in mind that this is an API, it makes it easier to build on Golem Network while the use cases come from Golem.
>Users, bugs, a rough estimate of how long it could take until it goes main net?
As a rough, but not set in stone, estimate, we're aiming for around the end of March. The code freeze is today and it’s approximately one month of testing.
If there were to be bugs pop up, then you'd be able to follow them on GitHub under the bug label here.
Let me know if you have more questions!
After downloading the latest release from that link I think it's working.
Previously I downloaded it before from https://golem.network/rendering/download/windows/.
Now the golem.log is getting spammed with "Task's deadline already in the past. " and " Task request rejected. ... reason: <REASON.NotMyTask: 'NotMyTask'> "
Is that normal?
Oh sorry did not know that Tron is such garbage. I primarily choose to promote it because it is supported by the United Nations. Personally i like
https://gridcoin.us/ Gridcoin - Rewarding Scientific Distributed Computing
And
https://golem.network/ Golem Network
But if you ask me tron has the best marketing team and infrastructure behind them.
3 months shy of two years in "Beta": https://themerkle.com/brass-golem-just-launched-on-mainnet/
Compare that to the release schedule they used to get ICO funds: https://golem.network/crowdfunding/Golemwhitepaper.pdf
which can be found on page 11. The ICO ended November 2016, so we are currently 38 months out from that. According to what they promised investors, Iron Golem should have been released several months ago. Or, in other words, they are more than two major releases behind schedule. Another way of saying it is that 38 months into the project, they are 32 months behind schedule. That's even the generous assumption that Brass still being in Beta counts as fulfilling their six month promise date.
Ethereum is not a general-purpose distributed computing system. ETH is valuable because people want to solve the distributed byzantine consensus problem using the Ethereum system.
Take a look at https://golem.network/ for distributed computing system build on Ethereum.
Even at current eth prices, it's easy to live the high life when you're sitting on 820,000 Eth. https://www.newsbtc.com/2016/11/20/golem-ico-decentralized-internet/ or https://golem.network/crowdfunding/index.html
Someone posted the wallet address a while back, but I can't find it. Pretty sure they still have at least 400k eth. So yeah, let the good times roll. They'll be able to tinker and play for decades, putting 3D Realms and Duke Nuke'm Forever to shame.
> the price of the token may have dropped by 90% but the price of rendering didn't
The price of rendering defenitely dropped because the ratio of providers against requestors icnreased massively. I can render scenes for a few GNT if I wanted to and chose my pricing right.
>How long does it take to cut a task up into slices, render it and serve the results for chirst's sake. Golem was created in 2016 and raised millions... It's now (the end of) 2019.
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>To compare a normal render farm will take 3 weeks to set up and cost less than 200k and I can even use AWS with Nvidia virtualisation to deliver variable amounts of rendering power adaptable by the hour.
What you are not considering is that AWS is backed by thousands of software engineers and billions in development costs, resulting in a centralized product that is thus cheap to maintain and service and relatively easy to develop.
If you go to golem.network and just count the amount of software engineers and compare that to AWS, there is your answer. Seeing what these people have done (funds dont necessarily play a role in this, you cant spend hundreds of millions on an employee pool of ~50) is nothing short of remarkable for this amount of time. You are free to disagree, even though thats strange.
Golem would be the cheapest if you can get your software integrated with it. The guidelines are here: https://golem.network/use-cases/. Basically, it's a network made up of spare compute capacity from data centers and individuals. People who use the Golem network can go through www.golemgrid.com and simply pay with a credit card.
If the systems have the minimum requirements needed to run Golem, they indeed should be able to participate in the network, which is great! Again, as far is I'm aware the only way to do that currently on Brass is to hook them all up as seperate nodes to the network.
With Golem Unlimited, it should be possible to use all of these systems as a complete unit with having a 'master node' and basically 'slave nodes' (probably not the right terminology, you get the point). However I have no experience using or installing Golem Unlimited, and it is in early alpha.
Blender and Golem are not intertwined at the app level, yet. The Golem team has mentioned it would be nice to have a Blender plugin that allows direct rendering/interaction in Blender itself, but that's a ways off. Not sure if they would take ownership of such a plugin or hope for someone else to create it.
In the meantime...
In a nutshell: You launch Golem and then create a new job/tasks pointing Golem to your Blender file(s).
Can search for tutorials for specific steps on youtube/Google.
Can also start reading at Golem's website:
https://golem.network/rendering/
I do not see why it has to be with crypto though. You can also buy it with Fiat so there's nothing special about using tokens apart from trying to ride the hype wave. It's exactly like this shit here
>This is often seen as beneficial, since having a larger number of people holding the asset means that any one individual has less control over the ecosystem, making it more decentralized.
you have just NOT adressed the point. How exactly is that impossible without hoarding? If btc for example cannot be used as a currency, it will never become mainstream. People were attracted by the high gains and now they seem to have gone. It's ironic that a community that was out to disrupt the financial system have be consumed by greed just to the same extend if not more.
>That seems like a really oversimplified statement. It's like saying commodities are a failure.
commidities are productive assets. Cryptos right now have no use in the real economy. It's just a hoarding and speculating tool. It works like a pyramid scheme where the last to hold it will lose a lot. If it wasn't for the greed, why would you buy cryptos right now with the current mentality within the community?
Like I said in my previous post, a lot of crypto is meant as a utility token, meaning it serves a purpose. Here's a good example of one - https://golem.network/. Golem offers decentralized computing, and the asset thats traded (GNT) is how people pay for that computing power. It's a commodity, like oil, where it has a use but some people trade it based on how they expect the usage of it to change.
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> The community is infected by parasitic hoarders who just see it as a speculative asset
This is often seen as beneficial, since having a larger number of people holding the asset means that any one individual has less control over the ecosystem, making it more decentralized. Additionally, when there's not a mania going on like in 2017, it helps to stabilize the price. A spike in price often sees these "hoarders" sell off some of their holdings, which brings the price back down, and a drop in price leads to people buying it up cheaper, bringing the price back up.
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> This crypto thing is already a failure
That seems like a really oversimplified statement. It's like saying commodities are a failure. There's tons of different ones doing different things, crypto overall didn't fail or anything. It's not like they had to make it to a certain point of development or adoption by a certain date to be successful and otherwise they're all a failure. It's an ongoing ecosystem of development, with new projects emerging and the ones that solve a real problem growing and doing well while the stupid ones die off. Just like with the internet, adoption isn't going to happen overnight, and many of the applications that come of crypto we don't even know of yet. Saying "crypto is a failure" is like saying "the internet is a failure" back in 2001 because the dot com bubble burst. The tech was still there, people were still developing, and it spawned applications and companies no one at the time could've dreamed of.