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I tried waterfox and it is exactly like firefox with these changes:
- Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
- Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015)
- Removed Pocket
- Removed Telemetry
- Removed data collection
- Removed startup profiling
- Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins
- Allow running of unsigned extensions
- Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
- Addition of Duplicate Tab option
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
> Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015) Removed Pocket Removed Telemetry Removed data collection Removed startup profiling Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins Allow running of unsigned extensions Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page Addition of Duplicate Tab option Locale selector in about:preferences > General
Today in panopticon: Google Chrome scans through the files on your computer and pipes the metadata back to Google for "security analysis".
> Last week, Kelly Shortridge, who works at cybersecurity startup SecurityScorecard, noticed that Chrome was scanning files in the Documents folder of her Windows computer.
One must wonder just what sorts of files Kelly had in her Documents folder. Fortunately, for Good Citizens, there is nothing to be concerned about:
> “For almost all users, this seems really harmless, and for those who are extremely concerned about Google seeing some metadata, maybe they shouldn't be running Google's browser in the first place.”
EDIT: Since there's lots of discussion below, it's not that hard to avoid this in practice: you can use Safari on a Macbook and not have this issue, or you can use something like Waterfox (/r/waterfox) on OSX or Linux (if you've never tried Linux, I recommend Mint).
For sure. I run two sets of social accounts (one personal, one for the gaming stuff), so I used to have FF and Chrome just to keep the accounts at the ready but separate. Then I discovered Waterfox. Buh-bye Chrome.
Waterfox is also a 64-bit Firefox fork. I've been using it before Firefox's 64-bit version was released. It also includes some features, like removing Pocket, telemetry, data collection, etc.
Here's a list of features from the Waterfox website.
It's also planning on keeping the legacy add-on format XUL a while after Firefox kills it off for WebExtensions.
Nope, the Shield add-on isn't built (removed from code base) and the URL for downloading any add-ons extensions.systemAddon.update.url;https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/systemaddons/update.xml is just sent to a blank URL so it won't download anything.
Would add Waterfox and Basilisk (Basilisk is not available yet) to the mix:
They may be more useful than Firefox 52 ESR, as Firefox 55 has introduced a new profile structure which can't be downgraded to earlier versions, which frankly includes Firefox 52 ESR. So downgrade without setting up a completely new profile is impossible.
And in the mean time, Firefox decided that add-ons have to be signed by them, disabling almost all my add-ons in the process, so I downgraded to version 47, and that's where I'll stay until I find a fork which enables the "xpinstall.signatures.required" option again. If I can't find one, I'll start compiling FF myself.
I fucking detest the Firefox development team. I'm a power user and I don't need their policy enforcements. I need customization and control.
Edit: And, it's going to be Waterfox.
> * Disabled the 64-Bit NPAPI white-list so that the user can decide what plugins they can run (doesn’t make sense for Mozilla to do this as most of their user base probably aren’t technically proficient), but it’s something Waterfox users are capable of handling. > * I’ve also allowed unsigned extensions to run as well as there are still some old extensions people like to use (it’s disabled by Mozilla for the same reason as above)
Even if they anonymise data and even if there is no way to determine who produced what data: I want to know about what goes on when I use a software.
It's really simple: I don't want applications to unnecessarily send or collect any kind of data from my computer.
I never want to have to opt-out of something. I even might opt-in to sending telemetry data when I'm asked and I think it's useful for a developer. But it should always be my decision.
I've been a Firefox user for a long time now, but I think Mozilla doesn't respect my idea of privacy anymore. This is not "privacy-oriented" anymore.
Is there a good alternative? I don't need TOR, but PaleMoon, Chromium? Any suggestions for a safe and sound modern browser?
e: just read about /r/waterfox, https://www.waterfoxproject.org/ - I'll try that one.
There are a few cleaned versions of Firefox out there. E.g. waterfox. So you still can use stuff like adblocker plugins you know but without worrying what this idiots from mozzila did again.
*Iridium, a browser based on Chromium that has certain privacy concerning features removed.
*Cyberfox Firefox based 64-bit clone
*Waterfox Another Firefox based 64-bit clone
There's also Pale Moon, although I don't think it's worthwhile as it takes ages for security patches to be released and is a dozen versions behind Firefox's mainline.
These aren't privacy issues? It was all explained here. The article even links to it!
It would be impossible to update Waterfox, without identifying which OS is asking for the update for example. And even then, it's not really sending that information to a server. What's happening is that Waterfox is locally parsing this string: https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/%OS%/%VERSION%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL%/update.xml and filling in the blanks, offline, locally. Am I missing something about privacy invasion here?
The level of comprehension in that article is extremely low. That's more worrying.
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015) Removed Pocket Removed Telemetry Removed data collection Removed startup profiling Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins Allow running of unsigned extensions Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page Addition of Duplicate Tab option Locale selector in about:preferences > General
It seems to me to get worse with each release (slow, more features added that I don't want, imo good stuff removed). This and the way Mozilla is acting for a while now made me wonder if there are better options. Pushing that Cliqz stuff down people's throats is the last straw for me to be ready to switch. There seems to be Waterfox, however something faster than Firefox might really be nice too
Hi all,
I won't be adding any sort of sponsored advertising or the sorts into the browser. In fact it should be off by default, if it's not please don't panic, it's probably just an error on my part.
The two relevant settings for this should be:
user_pref("browser.newtabpage.directory.ping", ""); user_pref("browser.newtabpage.directory.source", "data:application/json,{}");
Which should disable this, as described here (and have been set as so in the Waterfox preferences).
You can read up about Waterfox's future plan here. If anyone has any queries about this ever, PLEASE CONTACT ME/POST A THREAD ABOUT IT. I really want to do something good for the web and would hate to have what I'm doing be viewed as bad. If you think it's a bad idea, let me know!
I just think it's a good way to help keep Waterfox going as well as doing something good around the world :-)
Waterfox is really nice. It's a fork of firefox that lets you keep using most older extensions and without Mozilla injecting advertising and invading your privacy.
Palemoon is a similar idea, but a bit older. It works very nicely for pre-australis stuff, but doesn't have some of the newer backend things like multi-process.
I use Waterfox.
Brave is pretty much unusable until it can load extensions like ublock. I know they claim that they'll block all the obnoxious ads for you but there's still quite a bit of crappy web design that needs to be blocked as well.
Autoplay and auto follow video. Carousels and slideshows you can't stop or dismiss. "info" scrolls that you can't close. Animated non-ad images. The list is almost endless. I need my ublock.
Waterfox is very close to Firefox (unlike Palemoon or so) and cuts off all the bullshit. You can use all addons, even legacy (unlike Firefox), which is my main reason to use it.
Waterfox seems like a decent alternative to consider - updated often and has good changes:
>No Adobe DRM
>No Pocket
>No data collection
>Run every 64-Bit plugin
>Run every Add-On (even unsigned ones!)
Waterfox Browser - It's a 64 bit browser like Firefox except with privacy and Ad Blockers and tracking blockers built in. Run it with uBlock Origin and you will have a very fast and private web browsing experience. (Because...Yeah...Eff them ads and trackers!)
Waterfox: https://www.waterfoxproject.org
uBlock Origin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
EDIT: FYI uBlock origin puts a very small box on your menu bar that lists how many tracking sites it is currently blocking on the web page that you are visiting. I've had that number be higher than 30 at times. Yeah, really, 30 trackers from 1 page! It keeps your computer from accumulating garbage.
It seems to be their servers most of the time, but try using Waterfox Link: https://www.waterfoxproject.org/ Chrome has horrible and laughable problems with using to much ram, chrome is my least favorite browser and most resource hungry. My friend was been running the Bet.com offer for 160hrs straight (hes made about 4,300 points ~ 43 USD) with no hiccups or crashing on waterfox, so that might work for you.
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
> Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015) Removed Pocket Removed Telemetry Removed data collection Removed startup profiling Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins Allow running of unsigned extensions Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page Addition of Duplicate Tab option Locale selector in about:preferences > General
I wasn't sure about the Chrome flags, because I've been on beta running the flag for a long time.
I have noticed the laggy nature of Firefox too, but I think it's more a perception thing a lot of times (of course, perception is huge part of the experience). Chrome will load the framework of a page and make it usable before loading everything where Firefox seems to load things piecemeal. If you go to Amazon in both you might notice that for the first little bit, scrolling and page navigation in Chrome works but the page is full of blank boxes and missing text. Firefox seems to load the entirety of an element before moving onto the next one which makes scrolling lag and gives it a jenky feel. The actual time it takes to get a full page up is really close, but FF feels a whole lot slower.
One remedy I've found is to try the 64 bit Beta, or 64 bit Waterfox. Both seem to run better on JS and CSS heavy sites, and feel better in general, even though there is supposedly little performance difference.
> What's the best non-Firefox browser in regards to privacy?
There simply isn't any, apart from Waterfox and Palemoon. If speed is something that you must have then consider using Waterfox on a 64bit system. If you are going to use Chrome, then harden it for privacy by installing uBlock Origin and HTTPS Everywhere and using different profiles for different things.
Mozilla sold out, not Firefox (minor but important distinction). Firefox is still open source. This is fundamentally what software freedom is about.
I'm not particularly concerned because a) as the OP stated, this is an old article and nothing has changed as of 2018 and b) if it became a problem, you can fork the browser. There's no reason Firefox can't be forked if Mozilla does something stupid (and it has been; see Waterfox).
I remember the browser wars of the 1990s, going in to the 2000s where MSIE held most of the market share. I don't want to relive the days where everyone is using a single rendering engine beholden to a single company. Plus, Firefox is currently the only browser that gracefully handles hundreds of tabs.
From their homepage https://www.waterfoxproject.org/:
Built with Clang-cl on Windows No Adobe DRM No Pocket No data collection Run every 64-Bit plugin Run every Add-On (even unsigned ones!) Windows XP 64-Bit Support More under the hood changes...
You can set app.update.url.override to https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/test/win/update.xml in about:config and that will force the next update. Just making sure no major complaints before I roll out to everyone :-). I'd recommend removing that pref unless you want random test builds in the future.
Waterfox is a good alternative to Firefox. I've been using it for the last six months and have no issues.
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/
From the Wikipedia page:
Waterfox differs from Firefox in a number of ways by:
Removing Pocket
Removing telemetry and data collection
Removing startup profiling
Allowing 64-bit NPAPI plugins
Allowing unsigned extensions
Removing sponsored tiles on the New Tab page
Addition of locale selector to the user options
Using Bing as the default search engine instead of Google or Yahoo![7]
Not using Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) without user's explicit consent
Why not simply fork it? It's open source, after all.
It's odd to me that people are happy to use Brave, which is a fork of Chrome/Chromium (a Google product), but never seem to consider the same with Firefox. Waterfox exists, for example.
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/waterfox/new/?scene=1
>>advanced install options and other platforms
direct link to windows portable version:
> If you don't like it, fork Firefox at version 56 and port over security updates from later versions. That's the nature of open-source software.
Which is exactly what Waterfox did. I was so pleased that when I opened it, it imported everything from FF, and all my legacy extensions were magically working again! Plus it has zero telemetry, "experiments", or other BS.
> If Firefox 57 doesn't make people switch to Pale Moon
Not to cone off as rude, but did I miss something with Pale Moon when I tried it 1-2 months ago? It just came off as a really old and sometimes slower Firefox.
Honestly right Firefox fits what I want right now. Qutebrowser doesn't support all the sites I go on, nor does it support uBlock style filters so I can block a bunch of shit. Luakit doesn't do any of that either. Waterfox looks great but it did crash X a few times for me (56 just got released so I'll have to test and how it does).
So as of right now, Firefox 57 is fine.
You won't have a problem running both on your system, even simultaneously. I do this all the time, to compare web development results on multiple browser rendering engines.
You may want to try Firefox alternatives, such as Waterfox or (the more experimental) Basilisk. Just download them wherever you want them to be, unzip and run them. They'll create their own profiles in a separate folder, so your normal Firefox won't be altered. If you like them, you can create a shortcut or add them to your menu and panel (instructions vary, depending on your window/desktop manager combination), for easy access.
Finally, you may want to run Firefox ESR, which is a version of Firefox that retains the current features (of FF 56) until mid-2018, at which point Firefox's Quantum engine may have a more user-friendly UI and better integration with older extensions.
I found an extremely easy fix. First make a firefox sync account. Then go to https://www.waterfoxproject.org/downloads
Download waterfox for Android. Install it. Login to the Firefox sync account. You now have a new browser that has the UI of FF56
Features of waterfox: * Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) * Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015) * Removed Pocket * Removed Telemetry * Removed data collection * Removed startup profiling * Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins * Allow running of unsigned extensions * Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page * Addition of Duplicate Tab option * Locale selector in about:preferences > General
I use it now, less likely to surprise my with third party analytic/telemetry on an update or even as an internal addon being installed on the background, and you can preserve legacy extensions that can't, or don't want to, be ported to web-extensions.
I don't even trust firefox devs anymore to keep my "anonymized" data when using telemetry nor their partners and i can't be sure they don't enable telemetry again on my browser with an OPT-OUT update.
But this is just my personal opinion.
> Are there any advantages to using it? Were there ever?
The differences with firefox are this ones:
- Disabled Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
- Disabled Web Runtime (deprecated as of 2015)
- Removed Pocket
- Removed Telemetry
- Removed data collection
- Removed startup profiling
- Allow running of all 64-Bit NPAPI plugins*
- Allow running of unsigned extensions
- Removal of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
- Addition of Duplicate Tab option
- Locale selector in about:preferences > General
The last version has this changes:
- Stop Mozilla from installing add-ons without user permission.
- If these add-ons are already installed, they will be removed within a day of using the updated version.
Source and older versions changes.
*Note: run npapi plugins only as last resort and only on trusted webs.
Here you go: https://www.waterfoxproject.org/dlarchive Version 55.1.0 is not yet there, but still 55.0.2 might suffice. You should keep an eye on future Waterfox updates regardless. Profile transfers can be tricky and are prone to bugs, so best is to wait until it gets sorted out.
Waterfox - urpruenglich als 64bit Variante von FF gestartet als es FF nur in 32bit gab, mittlerweile liegt der Fokus auf Abschalten von Funktionen, welche deine Daten weiterleiten koennen.
Some of you should check out https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
> How and why Waterfox is here…
> Waterfox was started back in March 2011 by myself (Alex Kontos), a 16 year old student. I had a fascination for the web and wanted to help expand on the ideals of what Mozilla had for a free and open web. And so I decided to make Waterfox, a 64-Bit browser based on Mozilla's free and open source platform.
> Waterfox was one of the first widely distributed 64-Bit browsers on the web and quickly gained a loyal following. At a time Waterfox had one thing in mind: speed, but now Waterfox also attempts to be an ethical, user-oriented browser
> Waterfox focuses on giving users choice while also helping make the world a better place. Waterfox is partners with Ecosia, a search engine that plants trees with its generated revenues. The browser itself is focused on power users, which lets you make the important decisions. There is no plugin whitelist, you can run whichever extensions you like and absolutely no data or telemetry is sent back to Mozilla or the Waterfox project.
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
> About Waterfox
> How and why Waterfox is here…
> Waterfox was started back in March 2011 by myself (Alex Kontos), a 16 year old student. I had a fascination for the web and wanted to help expand on the ideals of what Mozilla had for a free and open web. And so I decided to make Waterfox, a 64-Bit browser based on Mozilla's free and open source platform.
> Waterfox was one of the first widely distributed 64-Bit browsers on the web and quickly gained a loyal following. At a time Waterfox had one thing in mind: speed, but now Waterfox also attempts to be an ethical, user-oriented browser
> Waterfox focuses on giving users choice while also helping make the world a better place. Waterfox is partners with Ecosia, a search engine that plants trees with its generated revenues. The browser itself is focused on power users, which lets you make the important decisions. There is no plugin whitelist, you can run whichever extensions you like and absolutely no data or telemetry is sent back to Mozilla or the Waterfox project.
Good option, still lacking in extension support. /u/timstolt1 consider palemoon which is a fork of Firefox before both Google(chrome) and Mozilla decided to go insane on the UI redesign.
Other options: chromium, waterfox
Chromium is the base of Chrome, before google puts their tracking software in it. Waterfox is another fork of firefox. And if you're trying to figure out what "Installer • Archive • Portable" means, Installer is just that, it's prepacked just like Firefox/chrome/brave/etc. No tinkering required. Archive - packed files, no installer. Portable - runs without needing any installation paths/etc. Good for running off a flash drive on public computers for instance.
For those that don't know what a fork is, it's a "split" in software development like a fork in the road. Someone has taken what already existed and went in another direction because they didn't like what x company(mozilla in this case) was doing.
Another one, that I use, is called Flash Got.
If you use FireFox and have a 64 bit machine, there is an open source project called WaterFox which is a native 64 bit program and can handle more memory than FF.
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/downloads
/r/waterfox
EDIT:
Waterfox is based off firefox, and uses the same plugins so you don't have to worry about losing those nice features.
Have you imported you profile from another browser? That's the only thing I can see causing it to come up with an error and yet still update.
If you goto about:config > Promise to be careful > Search for app.update.url and make sure the value is set to: https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/win64/%VERSION%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL%/update.xml
[Edit]
Now that I think about it for a second, how long as this been going on?
If it's recent, it could also be a backbone server having issues connecting to the server (aka, taking too long to reply).
- Type about:config into the address bar and press enter.
- Right click anywhere and select New > String
- Name the string app.update.url.override
- The value of the string must be https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/test/win/update.xml
Waterfox 43.0.1 is now available for download on the website and has the following changes:
> Fixed various crashes with less aggressive optimisation flags (Removal of -Qprec-div- -Qip -Qopt-prefetch)
Let me know if you still have any issues, but as far as I'm aware this has fixed the crashes (such as on YouTube).
I've been using Waterfox for about 3 months now and have no plans on changing any time soon. Most Firefox add-ons work fine with it as well.
Also there is a /r/Waterfox sub where the developer hangs out.
Waterfox is a faster 64-bit firefox. I prefer Firefox because it has alot more security minded add-on's as well as a very customizable interface. Chrome however has better developer support for add-on's and new website features. I only use chrome when firefox refuses to work with something which is not very often. Also if you get either, Ublock is a better performing alternative to Adblock, just make sure to whitelist those you support with Ads ;)
Firefox is easier on your ram. Chrome has each tab as it's own process in the task manager, so that if one tab crashes, you can still use the rest. This take up more ram and use more CPU than just having a single process like firefox, while it does make the tabs somewhat quicker.
OP, if you have a 64-bit PC, which you probably do, you should look at getting Waterfox. It was at one point an official 64-bit version of Firefox, but then Mozilla stopped updating and supporting it, so the community stepped up and has been keeping it up to date, and improving it as time goes on. It's also faster than Firefox in general, and faster than chrome for nearly half the stuff they tested on the home page. If you have a 64-bit version of an OS, I strongly suggest you get Waterfox.
> There is no moral choice in any of the major web browsers.
/uj
I mean we could all try
Icecat
I've used the last two. I remember both sorta having troubles with two or more tabs that had video players in them (with just 1 playing, the other(s) pause). But that was awhile ago. Could be different now. Might try them out again.
NO, not Firefox.
Use Waterfox instead. It's a one-man project unaffiliated with Mozilla that basically aims to make a browser that allows for actual privacy when browsing.
Firefox is not totally free from telemetry capture, but there is a neat alternative. The Waterfox project is Firefox with all of the bad stuff stripped out. The good privacy extensions we know and love work on it too!
If you must insist on using a version of Firefox that supports legacy add-ons, please use Waterfox (https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/).
That said, it's only a matter of time before the Waterfox developers update Waterfox to be based off of Firefox Quantum 57+.
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/waterfox/android/ OK, see what you mean - Yalp Store will do it!
What's nice about Yalp store is you can get it to identify as a non android TV device and log in via your google account - so if you have bought an app - you can get in on android TV. Waterfox works a lot better than Firefox android in this instance - though you still really need a controller with a track pad.
P.S there is also an android TV version of Firefox on apk mirror. Its good, and works with a TV remote. But you can't log in, sync or have proper history. I use both.
Also available from:
- home page https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
- About Waterfox https://www.waterfoxproject.org/waterfox/
~~Please, which page offered just the one link with nothing about Portable?~~
> Yeah that was probably the case. I disabled my antivirus and ran the updater again and it re-installed waterfox just fine. > > Now my only question is why did it disappear in the first place, but I guess i'll never know.
maybe your antivirus read waterfox setup.exe or waterfox.exe as a false positive...
https://www.techsupportalert.com/content/what-false-positive-antivirus-detection.htm
be sure download waterfox setup only by his official site:
You can kind of puzzle it out using the wayback machine at archive.org.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180318063205/https://www.waterfoxproject.org/dlarchive
I had to dig it out so I could download an earlier linux version. The latest one seems to be kind of glitchy.
Opera was sold to an advertising company
Waterfox is on Android: https://www.waterfoxproject.org/downloads
IceCat (another Firefox fork; built with privacy in mind) is also on Android: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.gnu.icecat/
If none of the above suit you, Firefox for Android is light years better than Opera.
Your update checker is likely perfectly fine. Waterfox 56 has not yet been pushed to autoupdate because there are some Mozilla-induced problems with a (very) small range of add-ons, namely:
- LiveClick
- Color That Site
- Add Bookmark Here ²
- Pure URL
- Mozilla Archive Format
/u/MrAlex94 is looking into it.
If you want the current version of Waterfox (WF56) you can download it from here and install it over WF55.2.2:
Basilisk (new Pale Moon) & Waterfox support both XUL addons and WEs. They will be also faster than other Firefox forks.
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/11/17/pale-moon-team-releases-first-version-of-basilisk-browser/
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/blog/waterfox-56.0-release-download
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/03/07/cyberfox-proclaims-death-of-web-browser/
Or switch to updated Firefox fork like Waterfox:
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/blog/
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/downloads
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/10/04/waterfox-55-2-update-and-roadmap-released/ (now is Watefox 56.0.1)
I don't know for sure, but it looks so far off and doesn't even work in the slightest. I know because I've fallen in the same trap.
I know that a working app can be found on the official page -> https://www.waterfoxproject.org/downloads
Personally I'd suggest Pale Moon or (Waterfox)[https://www.waterfoxproject.org/] (two forks of Firefox which omit some of the crazy decisions Mozilla has been making lately, while keeping the good parts).
it has all to do with the question you asking for...
As I linked you MrAlex94 (He's the developer of Waterfox) answered this:
Keep at v56, update with security and add-on compatibility. In parallel, develop a more modern, just as extensible browser.
and this is what ihe made:
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/blog/waterfox-56.0-release-download
This is what /u/MrAlex94 said here:
>The idea is as follows for varying version of Waterfox as well as a new browser forked from the last usable XUL/XPCOM/Add-on version of Firefox:
Waterfox ESR version of that specific fork, where nothing changes but security patches. Waterfox RR version that follows the new direction Firefox heads in (Rust features et al.) but removes all telemetry, profiling etc.
Since you have ruled out e10s as the breaking factor, there is nothing you can realistically do about it. Sorry to say. On page 2 of the thread I've linked you to the dev was asked by a user (Buzzliteyear) of Toolbar Buttons:
> "Hello Michael, which on the last FF version did your 1.1.1 work with ?"
That was his response:
> "@Buzzliteyear Firefox 54 was the last version it would work on."
So he has confirmed that Firefox 54 and thus Waterfox 54(.0.1) is the last version the add-on would work on. You can find the Waterfox 54.0.1 installer here:
Please note that due to incompatibilities between Waterfox 55/56 profiles with earlier profiles you really should create a new profile should you decide to use that version.
However, it would be far more advisable to go for either Firefox 52.4.1 ESR:
or Pale Moon:
Those browsers are still maintained and Toolbar Buttons should work in them.
I really can't understand the dev of the add-on. He is apparently fully aware that the extension is not working on Firefox 55 and 56, even with e10s disabled, yet doesn't even bother to fix it.
The fault clearly lies with the add-on dev. I am sorry for you, but you have to choose between Waterfox and the add-on unless the dev comes up with a fix.
I'd also very much like to find out, at least for the selfish reason that a well-supported project is one that's much more likely to remain alive and well.
I tried searching the https://www.waterfoxproject.org/ website (which should really be on the sidebar here), but couldn't find any specific instructions towards this or a donate button. There's a blog post about a search engine-based attempt at monetization that says:
> As you know, Waterfox has gotten quite big and costs to run it are quite high and I’ve been struggling to pay out of pocket
(that's from 2015). There's a comment which seems to say this "Storm" attempt has been discontinued, but I'm not sure, and in any case the text there doesn't contain any other methods to support /u/MrAlex94 either.
This is too important a project to not support, especially with the amount of work involved in working aginst Mozilla's feature removals and idiocies, so I hope we have a channel of support (a Patreon maybe?) soon.
Bit of Ubuntu weirdness. My waterfox prompted to download 55.2.0. When it finished it wouldn't restart. Checked my install directory and found it had been replaced with: > ls waterfox
>active-update.xml defaults update-settings.ini
>Contents updates updates.xml
find . -name waterfox
./Contents/MacOS/waterfox
I've rolled back to 54.0. I think I'll wait until the compressed archive for 55.2.0 shows up at https://www.waterfoxproject.org/downloads
Edit: It looks like the linux compressed archive is at 55.2. The link still has "Waterfox 55.1.0.1 Compressed Archive", though. Downloaded, unpacked and running great.
Kudos and thanks!
Instead of palemoon you should consider Waterfox which is the closest to the current firefox release and will continue supporting legacy extensions. Also it's compatible with the current firefox profile format so you can simply copy your whole profile over while with palemoon that wont work.
When you right click a tab, it's at the very top.
It's a feature that's been added with the newest update of Waterfox, so it isn't an add-on issue:
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/blog/waterfox-51.0-release-download
"Quality of Life feature: Duplicate Tabs! Right Click and Select Duplicate Tab to access this feature"
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
plus Java 64bit
A lot more people need to be aware this fixes most of this games lag, most people say 64bit does nothing and it pointless but go try it yourself...
I can get 50fps in W2 GE and Burthrope on waterfox, 15fps in the client.
Anyone interested in a video comparing Waterfox vs the Client?
- Step1: go to about:config by typing it in your URL bar
- Step2: Click I'll be careful
- Step3: Right click -> New -> String.
- Step4: String Name: app.update.url.override and Sting Value: https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/test/win/update.xml
- Step5: Save.
Thats what Alex wanted to say.. Doing this or not is upto you and needs to be done on your own risk..
I'm assuming you got the update because you've got app.update.url.override set to https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/test/win/update.xml?
Yes I'm just prepping the update so the article will be live when the update goes out to everyone. The build via auto-update includes a fix for Netflix issues :-)
It depends on what you want to do with it, and how clear you want to steer away from the botnet known as google. What OS? If windows, then I'd say Opera, Vivaldi, Waterfox and firefox are all "decent". Memory / feature wise, I'd say waterfox with some privacy add ins will probably weigh in a little less than Chrome. The new edge browser in Windows 10 is built in, but still beta, in my opinion.. so that leaves you with I.E, which isn't really an option. :P https://www.waterfoxproject.org/ If you are on a mac, all of the above again. If you are on Linux, then IceCat, Firefox, and Chromium. If you want security / anonymity, then perhaps the TorBrowser on any of the above.
> So long firefox, this time you are permanently being replaced with pale moon.
Pro-Tip: Use Waterfox, it's better then Firefox while Pale Moon is made by a lazy Swedish furry who refuses to update the core Firefox version (which is why it keeps breaking).
> Could you please include a version in the final 4.0.2 download that I can run from the desktop like the test build you have here. Since using the test build I really am having no browser hang issues. The firefox and waterfox that I have installed both hang again when I use them. Thank you.
Sure, there are portable versions available for download already.
Firefox keeps blowing up in my face recently. A few tabs open and all of a sudden it does this on youtube:
http://i.imgur.com/gn6RaXU.png
This on tabs:
http://i.imgur.com/tcYOv7L.png
And a variety of other things.
THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE HOWEVER that's still firefox but has less of these weird bugs:
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
It's based on firefox so you can still use all your favorite extensions.
Mine freezes occasionally, but usually only after several hours or more. I do not remember who, but someone suggested using Waterfox for your browser, and that does seem to stay running longer for me than others.
Yes this will work, it'll just overwrite the registry settings and Waterfox files. You can also do as the post above and set app.update.url.override which forces updates. (You'll need to use:
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/win64/%VERSION%/%LOCALE%/%CHANNEL%/update.xml
as the value)
I've been having crashes on 32 bit Firefox versions like Aurora and regular Firefox, but I've started using Waterfox, a 64 bit version, and things have been much better.
You can get Waterfox here, but make sure your operating system is 64 bit.
Hope that helps!
If I recall correctly:
- download the
.tar.bz2file from https://www.waterfoxproject.org/ - open the archive, extract its contents to a convenient location
- in a terminal window,
cdto thewaterfoxdirectory - to launch the application:
./waterfox
Someone in the community has a script that simplifies things, so you don't need to use a terminal to start the application …
How odd. I just tried searching for Waterfox through the search box on Google Play and it doesn't show up. The link I provided was the one I followed from the Waterfox home page.
> 56.2.7.1
Amazon video and Waterfox 56.2.8
/u/mindjogger please:
- install (or update to) 56.2.8
- if you previously set a user agent string for an affected site, cease the override
- tell whether things are better with 56.2.8
– thanks.
If you do find a problem, please state:
- the version of Waterfox
- the operating system
- the version of the OS
- the address where the problem occurred.
Site compatibility with Waterfox 56.2.8
/u/clarachan1355 please:
- install (or update to) 56.2.8
- if you previously set a site-specific user agent string, cease the override
- tell whether things are better with 56.2.8.
If you do find a problem with a site, please state:
- the address
- the version of Waterfox
- the operating system
- the version of the OS.
Thanks
reCAPTCHA and Waterfox 56.2.8
/u/b1k3rdude please:
- install (or update to) 56.2.8
- if you previously set a user agent string for an affected site, cease the override
- tell whether things are better with 56.2.8
– thanks.
If you do find a problem, please state:
- the version of Waterfox
- the operating system
- the version of the OS
- the address where the problem occurred.
Amazon video and Waterfox 56.2.8
/u/gikorock please:
- install (or update to) 56.2.8
- if you previously set a user agent string for an affected site, cease the override
- tell whether things are better with 56.2.8
– thanks.
If you do find a problem, please state:
- the version of Waterfox
- the operating system
- the version of the OS
- the address where the problem occurred.
reCAPTCHA and Waterfox 56.2.8
/u/rebop2017 please:
- install (or update to) 56.2.8
- if you previously set a user agent string for an affected site, cease the override
- tell whether things are better with 56.2.8
– thanks.
If you do find a problem, please state:
- the version of Waterfox
- the operating system
- the version of the OS
- the address where the problem occurred.
Waterfox 56.2.8 with reCAPTCHA
/u/PredatoryChicken please:
- install (or update to) 56.2.8
- if you previously set a user agent string for an affected site, cease the override
- tell whether things are better with 56.2.8
– thanks.
If you do find a problem, please state:
- the version of Waterfox
- the operating system
- the version of the OS
- the address where the problem occurred
– and then, if you can, please resist the urge to 'pick' at the problem.
I imagine that archived posts, such as the (pinned) 2014 welcome post, can not be modified. Certainly my archived posts can not.
56.2.7.1 is current.
Follow the home page link to the blog, there you'll find
- recent release notes for 56.2.7 and 56.2.7.1
- Waterfox, Its Legacy and Looking to the Future, posted around eleven months ago
– and so on.
In the GitHub, area, also linked from the home page ('Contribute'), are various Issues, some of which are Waterfox bugs or enhancement requests. Currently in third place, when issues are sorted by date of update, issue 267:
- Waterfox Quantum?
Key points tend to be scattered (and and not found by searching) in Reddit so I sometimes add highlights to this particular issue. See for example:
Hope that helps
Try these 2; don't know why this is made so difficult.
https://github.com/MrAlex94/Waterfox/issues/418#issuecomment-401091893
https://web.archive.org/web/20180318063205/https://www.waterfoxproject.org/dlarchive
Try these 2; don't know why this is made so difficult.
https://github.com/MrAlex94/Waterfox/issues/418#issuecomment-401091893
https://web.archive.org/web/20180318063205/https://www.waterfoxproject.org/dlarchive
> .the folk who made Waterfox and touted it to many of us, …"you don't get your info. copied by browser corporations!!"
<https://www.waterfoxproject.org/>:
>> browser tailored for the power user.
/u/clarachan1355 please, does any of your comment relate to the startup password question? (This post.)
I think you replied to the wrong post.
Instead, your post: https://redd.it/ao19un
> … on 56.2.6 Help > About clicking on 'check for updates' showed 56.2.7 available, but when I selected update, WF did something and then said 'restart.' When restarted I was still at 56.2.6. Resolved by going to the Waterfox Project site and downloaded 56.2.7 and installed/updated that way. This is on a Windows 10 box.
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/update/win64/56.2.6/en-US/release/update.xml looks OK, at a glance.
The browser you play on will have a big impact. If you want to stay on browser, I'll recommend Waterfox, a x64 fork of firefox optimized for speed.
However, you'll have to watch out for the right click issue, which will cause you to lose control of your keyboard inputs until you left click outside of the game and then back inside.
Waterfox is a spur from Firefox that does not call home and supports older extensions despite being updated often. It is a 64bit browser.
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/waterfox/ for their ethos.
honestly i don't know. it depends how autistic you want to get. try out a couple
these are privacy-focused and open source
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/en-US/ https://www.gnu.org/software/icecat/
Better yet, do all that but start from waterfox, so you can use non-crippled extensions and not be tracked or have political ads pushed at you by Mozilla itself.
Good question. I'm surprised that https://redd.it/2ov0dr doesn't include a link to GitHub (I guess that Reddit does not allow edition of the post).
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/ ▶ Contribute
- takes you to the GitHub repo.