For the curious, here's a map that attempts to collate the strikes using data pin-points via Google Maps.
EDIT: On that list, the only months since Obama took office that haven't seen drone strikes are December 2010 and April 2008. Every other month for all four years has seen an attack, and many of them saw quite a number of attacks. Altogether, the total instances of Pakistani drone strikes in the last four years of Bush's presidency ('04-'08) totaled ten.
Related article with more details:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/05/AR2011010506374.html
This isn't the first time Gates has proposed cutting defense spending. It was a long, hard battle to end the F-22 program, because so many congressmen wanted to keep the work in their districts.
If anyone is interested in the causes and lead up to WWI, I strongly recommend listening to Dan Carlin's podcast Hardcore History. He has a four-part series on WWI and it's fascinating.
http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/dan-carlins-hardcore-history-30606
> The difference then being people mass marched on Washington.
Exactly!! The true-life story of LBJ explaining to his "war cabinet" why he refused to use nukes in Vietnam is illustrative of that.
In that famous conversation (recorded on the same tape-recording system that would later nail Nixon, and available at the LBJ library in Texas -- but surprisingly not available via the Internet!) LBJ was at the White House in a meeting with his select "war cabinet."
The war cabinet unanimously was urging LBJ to use nuclear weapons in Vietnam, but LBJ stubbornly said "no."
When pressed why, LBJ walked to the window where outside over 100K anti-war protesters were marching in their monthly march. The chants of the anti-war protesters could be heard from inside the White House. LBJ bluntly said (again, we have this on tape!) that if he used nukes in Vietnam that the crowd outside would climb the White House fence, drag him outside and lynch him from a tree on the White House lawn -- that is what the US president gave for his reason.
> Nowadays they can't afford it,
I call BS. People are too lazy, too demoralized and too brainwashed from watching too much of the corporate mass media.
The costs are trivial. Do you think the blacks who attended the famous Washington protest in the early civil right days were richer than we are today?
> "Even when we don’t believe what the media say, we are still hearing or reading their viewpoints rather than some other. They are still setting the agenda." -- Yale-educated political scientist Dr. Michael Parenti, from the book Inventing Reality: The Politics of the News Media.
Interesting comment for Panetta to make. Worth reminding folks of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002
You can get a hint of where the U.S. side thinks this is going:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/16/us-navy-deploys-seafox-submarines/
This all sounds fun but things will get interesting once one of these drones plows into a passenger aircraft or vice versa. If that sounds implausible I point out that in Texas the cops crashed one into the SWAT truck when it was only 18 feet off the ground and it lost communication. Imagine them at 10000 ft.
I assume you won't accept RT as a source, so here is CNN:
https://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/03/world/europe/ukraine-luhansk-building-attack/index.html
This link might also be useful for you in the future:
Took me all of 20 seconds to find the first link using the second, it's magic.
>Yes. The US is the world's leader.
not for long... but the US spends like it will always be the leader. Many other declining empires made that mistake.
I can't imagine that the US is very happy about direct bilateral talks between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The policy has been to keep them at loggerheads. That is why the US kept imposing India into the mix, in order to offer financing (bribes) to Karzai and to make the Pakistanis nervous. Divide and Conquer.
Look at all the articles about the meeting. The only American media on the list is the Macon Telegraph.....
I hate them for the way they manipulated the US into supporting the invasion of Iraq.
I think they genuinely believe they are doing the right thing (and, in the long run, who can say what that actually is - they might actually be doing what's best for America in the long run), but I don't like the underhanded manner in which they sell their agenda to the people. They haven't convinced my friends and family that they're doing the right thing because a) my family thankfully aren't stupid, and b) I choose not to associate with people who are.
And I'm about as far from a moonbat as one can be.
That's the US specialty -- getting others to fire the first shot and then seizing the moral high ground to wage a defensive war. We do it in war after war.
> "Japan was provoked into attacking America at Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty of history to say that America was forced into the war." -- Oliver Lyttleton, British Minister of Production, 1944. The book "Day of Deceit" proves that the US carried out a deliberate, successful policy to provoke Japan into attacking the US so the US could enter WWII.
The US actively provoked and sought to enter the war.
The US was shocked and horrified at the lighting-fast collapse of France, our old WWI ally and then the world's 2nd largest empire.
It was then said that the US set about enacting a policy of provoking Japan to attack the US as a way for the US to enter the war.
> "For a long time I have believed that our best entrance into the war would be by way of Japan." -- Harold Ickes, Sec. of the Interior, October 1941.
Journalist and WWII Navy vet Robert Stinnett researched the beginning of the war for decades. He uncovered the "McCollum memo" with a freedom of info act. The memo was from an American naval intelligence officer who was born in Japan, an officer who was the US Navy's liaison messenger between the White House and the Navy Dept. The memo listed 8 steps for the US to do to force Japan to attack the US.
The US did all 8 steps! Among those steps were moving the US Pacific Fleet HQ from San Francisco to the small backwater navy base in Hawaii. That move was so controversial that the secretary of the Navy resigned in protest of the move.
Stinnett's book, linked below, is must reading for anyone interested in this conspiracy theory.
> "Japan was provoked into attacking America at Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty of history to say that America was forced into the war." -- Oliver Lyttleton, British Minister of Production, 1944. The book "Day of Deceit" proves that the US carried out a deliberate, successful policy to provoke Japan into attacking the US so the US could enter WWII.
Ah Caitlin Johnstone Inbetween writing the complete guide to astrology she is teaching us about mystical unverified secret projects of the very evil US empire.
So of course this subreddit loves her and her fake university.
I suppose that's supposed to be a "clever" smear attempt. But didn't summarize the video accurately? Isn't that's what is happening in reality?
And hasn't the US had a desire to rope Ukraine into NATO for decades? It was written about in Zbigniew Brzezinski's famous book "The Grand Chessboard."
That book is essentially required reading in State Dept. circles. Brzezinski -- the same geo-strategist who concocted Carter's scheme to provoke the USSR into sending troops into Afghanistan to trap the Russians in a guerrilla war -- advocated that the US should take over the Middle East, central Asia and Ukraine to knee-cap Russia and control the world. And that's exactly what the US tried to do.
Perhaps you ought to start doing some drugs and start reading?
> "Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union." -- US Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Paul Wolfowitz outlining the new US Cold War against Russia, 1992.
Madsen's great research needs more exposure.
Assistant Secretary of State for European/Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland, the baked goods-bearing «Maiden of Maidan,» told the US Congress that the United States spent $5 billion to wrest control of Ukraine from the Russian sphere since the collapse of the Soviet Union. With the recent disclosures from the CIA it appears that the price tag to the American tax payers of such foreign shenanigans was much higher
Confirmed and more by CIA researcher Douglas Valentine
A nine minute segment from Part 2 of Doug Valentine's The CIA As Organized Crime. For 70 years the CIA has been working to undermine and occupy Ukraine to bring down Russia using such things as paramilitaries, right wing Nazi groups, corrupt politicians and businessmen, coups, and warfare in the eastern Ukraine region of the Donbass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRicZc-cZ0I
The CIA as Organized Crime: How Illegal Operations Corrupt America and the World - Douglas Valentine https://www.amazon.com/CIA-Organized-Crime-Illegal-Operations/dp/0997287012
> Ukraine is already at war with Russia,
We know this. After the US refused to limit NATO expansion Russia attacked Ukraine. They were serious about their "red line."
> and here you spread more Russian, not anti-war, propaganda.
It's a simple fact. The US executed 2 coups in Ukraine, one resulting in 2008 with the US saying Ukraine could come into NATO. The Russians responded with a bluntly-worded warning of "military conflict" if NATO expansion was not stopped. We know that thanks to Bradley/Chelsea Manning's Wikileaks dumps of US diplomatic cables.
In 2014 we financed another coup which put the current regime into power. The US went so far as to pick out the first post-coup Prime Minister and also state who was not going to be in the gov't (our friends and enemies list).
To point these facts out is not "propaganda," it's just stating facts or "inconvenient truths."
Myself, I do not "stand with Ukraine" -- I'm an American. Ukraine should have accepted the neutrality offer they were given.
Instead the fools in Kiev let themselves be set up by the US. We wanted this war and baited a "bear trap" to get Russia involved in a costly guerrilla war. Just like Afghanistan, the Russians stepped into our trap. Now we'll fight until the last dead Ukrainian.
That's what we do best -- set others up to commit the first act of war. It keeps our white horse nice and pretty.
> "Japan was provoked into attacking America at Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty of history to say that America was forced into the war." -- Oliver Lyttleton, British Minister of Production, 1944. The book "Day of Deceit" proves that the US carried out a deliberate, successful policy to provoke Japan into attacking the US so the US could enter WWII.
Read this article and you can see how an elite of the wrong type but common today could easily see war as a triviality without concern for those dying (on any side). It's an abyss of immorality, antipathy and ego that lead to war. Entitlement is part of that.
Need an Intern With a Strong Sense of Entitlement and Bad Manners? Hire a Rich Kid
Lest you think people like this do not exist, let me assure you, this article was familiar territory to me: I know tons of people with money just like this. I grew up among many like this. Thankfully I know a lot people with money who aren't but they are outnumbered and no longer in the halls of power which is a large part of the problem.
This completely correct. Saddam sold oil for euros under the UN program "Oil for food", got invaded, killed, country destroyed never to be the same again. - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2003/feb/16/iraq.theeuro
Holy shit. I wrote this a few years ago for a political science class.
Excerpt:
>Ahmed Chalabi's cousin, Rafid Ahmed Alwan - codenamed “Curveball” - claimed to have worked on mobile bioweapons laboratories for Saddam Hussein. This piece of information became a central point in Colin Powell's presentation to the United Nations Security Council to justity the Iraq War, and it turned out to be obviously false. Rafid was a German spy, and the CIA never had direct access to him. The Germans passed the information he was giving along to the CIA with a rather important caveat – Curveball was described as 'crazy' by his German handlers, and a 'congenital liar' by his friends, which the Germans claim they told the CIA, but were summarily ignored.
I told everyone who would listen to this for years. Of course, no one cared very much.
The right-wing, traditional conservative Buchanan omits huge parts of the background to the US wars -- the US' entire imperial drive to take over the Middle East and central Asia after the breakup of the USSR.
This is a key to understanding what's going on.
Famous US geo-strategist Zbigniew Brzezinski outlined the strategy in his famous book The Grand Chessboard, a book so famous it was essentially required reading in State Dept circles. It called for the US to control both the Middle East and the central Asian/Caspian Sea region. By doing that the US would control most of the world's oil resources and could thus control both Europe and east Asia/China.
The key to the Middle East was Iraq's oil wealth and central location. You know the story of the US lies to start the war and us committing wanton torture trying to maintain our occupation of that country.
In Afghanistan we deliberately chose war -- we rejected Taliban offers both before and after 9/11 to turn over Bin Laden for trial. We wanted that war and figured we could install a puppet gov't there and use it as a base to control all of central Asia.
Another one of Brzezinski's strong recommendations was to control Ukraine. So we funded a coup there and US soldiers openly train Ukrainian fascists with swastikas and other Nazi symbols on their helmets. Our next steps will be to attempt to push separatist movements in both Russia and China to balkanize those countries.
Buchanan's omission of our imperial plans and goals is a huge, glaring omission of this article.
> What’s going on with Hollywood?
They've been corporatized, bought and paid for.
Just like the "embedded reporters" of the mass media, they're part of the war machine.
> "Even when we don’t believe what the media say, we are still hearing or reading their viewpoints rather than some other. They are still setting the agenda." -- Yale-educated political scientist Dr. Michael Parenti, from the book Inventing Reality: The Politics of the News Media.
That's our strategy everywhere. We know the propaganda value of portraying "the other guy" as the aggressor.
In 1979 we implemented a deliberate strategy to provoke the USSR into sending troops to aid the Afghan gov't on their border, all due to the US funding and arming radical Muslim fundamentalists.
When the Soviets sent troops in to assist their neighbor, US and western media reported that as an "invasion."
> "Japan was provoked into attacking America at Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty of history to say that America was forced into the war." -- Oliver Lyttleton, British Minister of Production, 1944. The book "Day of Deceit" proves that the US carried out a deliberate, successful policy to provoke Japan into attacking the US so the US could enter WWII.
> US media is corporately owned so they don’t even represent the nations interests but rather capitalist ones,
Doesn't the Phil Donahue incident (and many others that can be cited!) prove that to be pure BS?
Back during the unelected-by-the-American-people President George W. Bush's reign, MSNBC had the Phil Donahue show as its #1-rated, most popular TV show. That's what viewers wanted to see.
Phil Donahue was made famous for his old 1970s talk show which often featured anti-Vietnam War voices on his show.
In the early 00's, with the torturing war criminal Bush spewing his lies to the American people and world to start the war of aggression against Iraq, MSNBC management feared that Donahue might have truth-telling anti-war voices like Scott Ritter on his TV show.
Donahue did nothing controversial, but that fear by MSNBC that Donahue might offend the Bush White House prompted MSNBC to cancel it's #1-rated TV show, the show that made advertisers and MSNBC money and the show that viewers preferred over any other MSNBC show.
That wasn't capitalist interests (or even national interests) that drove MSNBC's action. That was fear of the US gov't and a desire for war.
> "Even when we don’t believe what the media say, we are still hearing or reading their viewpoints rather than some other. They are still setting the agenda." -- Yale-educated political scientist Dr. Michael Parenti, from the book Inventing Reality: The Politics of the News Media.
One thing that spies do well though is prevent wars.
Its when you don't know what your rival is doing or going to do that the stakes become more risky, sadly enough this was covered in The Art of War, a Chinese book.
Although the Chinese may applaud this, it does raise the specter that a war between China and the West may be easier to start.
This film is based on a must read book written by a former MP of the South African National Congress who witnessed a corrupt deal between his own party and BAE Systems in the midst of aids crisis. The government didn't have enough money to pay for anti-retroviral medication, but they had enough to buy fighter jets they didn't need in return for over 100 million in bribes. He told the President that if he was not allowed to investigate them he was going to resign. He then launched a fundraising campaign with Bureau of Investigative Journalism's Chris Woods to supply these drugs saving loads of people's lives, and spent the next four years interviewing arms dealers from around the world. Surprisingly they were quit candid and this is the result of his work.
> An empire is where the occupying force absorbs the country it has invaded,
Such a definition ignores over a century of real-life experience with and writing and theorizing about neo-colonialism.
For Americans, neo-colonialism is best illustrated by the Philippines. We supposedly gave the Philippines "independence" after WWII.
The reality is that we installed and supported a puppet dictator in the Philippines, giving him a cut of money for the trouble of ruling the country. Meanwhile, despite "independence" the US controlled the Filipino economy directly and indirectly pulled the strings in the country.
The US was a relative late-comer to neo-colonialism. The British Empire and others were using neo-colonial tactics long before WWII.
FWIW, the book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man may be an enlightened read for you...
I read "The Kill Chain: The Rise of the High-Tech Assassins" by Andrew Cockburn a few months ago. It is, IMHO, the best book about the drone war in general and a lot of details about the evolution of the US - Terrorist international confrontation in particular.
One thing that Cockburn makes clear is that assassinating leaders in these jihadi groups tend to radicalize the movements by replacing older, more cautious men with young firebrands, therefore it is not surprising that the assassination of 120 Islamic State leaders has not done anything to slow down the expansion and radicalization of the Islamic State.
If you would like to learn more about the real history of the Civil War, read Thomas di Lorenzo's The Real Lincoln
> It's hopelessly broken and screwed up. More and more regulations keep being added, making each step in this chart take longer and longer.
See also Joseph Tainter's book 'The Collapse of Complex Societies', this is a prime example: http://www.amazon.com/Collapse-Complex-Societies-Studies-Archaeology/dp/052138673X
There is a terrific history of the antiwar movement before and during the First World War with this same name.
I am going to have to buy it.
LBJ did not have 99% of the mainstream media behind his program of Empire. He also didn't have the advantage of a professional Army.
Between dissent in the media and dissent from possible draftees and their families, there was a lot of opposition to Vietnam. The Pentagon took that into consideration and changed things. Read "The New American Militarism: How Americans Are Seduced by War"
What morality? No offense, but it's been nothing but a hollywood facade for the last 60 years. This is a key part of US foreign intervention policy, without which people would be unwilling to back these wars of aggression.