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Hi, This is just my opinion. The lights are to wimpy. If you can get them closer that may solve the issue. If not get a cheap quantum style board. The difference from what you have would be huge but you would have to hang them some how. Another alternative would be to get a second light like you have. This would be an ok Quantum board. https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Upgraded-Spectrum-Dimmable-Hydroponic/dp/B088KK88NH/ref=sr_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=led+grow+light&nav_sdd=aps&pd_rd_r=ff654cc0-edbe-49b5-9d43-7cc742fb2f8a&pd_rd_w=qK45a&pd_rd_wg=GUR6w&pf_rd_p=d3f80a66-0214-4632-8398-1da02f11de05&pf_rd_r=2FT47ENFC3QEAKCYR5JM&qid=1616889604&refinements=p_36%3A2661614011&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-13
I'm using a best seller light from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09BKN99CZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and trying to grow from seeds basil, mint, thyme, and parsley. As you can see from the basil on the left, even something as easy as basil isn't liking it. I'm watering every day at first and then every other day. They seeds start out great but then they look like this.
This is a standing shelf I already had and I sticked the lights at the bottom allowing for plants to be put on the shelves below. I started by having the grow lights be about 1.5 feet away from the herbs. I saw the same results as picture, so I removed the middle shelves allow for about 5 feet distance from the grow lights to the dirt.
Is it a grow light problem? Is it a distance problem? Or something else? I figured the best-selling Amazon grow lights would be fool-proof. I'm struggling and need some advice. Cheers and thanks for any thoughts you may have.
Heres another to consider. Luckily for you i spent a week looking at these. https://www.amazon.com/Hydofe-Lights-Spectrum-Coverage-AC100-277V/dp/B09YGDTLGM/ref=pd_aw_ic_dpcp_m_1_m_5?pd_rd_w=E6HK3&content-id=amzn1.sym.bd0fdf53-c22e-4ccf-9db7-c2aba5cf5188&pf_rd_p=bd0fdf53-c22e-4ccf-9db7-c2aba5cf5188&pf_rd_r=YBP2...
With your budget its going to be an older generation light but i almost bought this one. Looks solid and ive seen people using it. I bought a less known brand light and love it. The one I bought is out of stock tho. If i were you it would be between these 2 https://www.amazon.com/TMLAPY-N240-Coverage-Spectrum-Upgraded/dp/B08QF3KK57/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3TMHPPDTKF8CR&keywords=tmlapy&qid=1663581379&sprefix=tmlapy%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.08f69ac3-fd3d-4b88-bca2-8997e4... https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B09ZL3Y5ZF/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_10?smid=A2LQAVJMPAADD1&psc=1
I would just look at the GE bulbs. I do not know much about orchids. Just search on Amazon for "GE Grow light". Something like this may be fine. https://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-LED-Grow-Balanced/dp/B07Z11RYBK/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=ge+grow+light&qid=1658097420&sprefix=ge+gro%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-8
This light is actually not a good fit. The challenge in your case is more about covering a wide area. This Maxisun would concentrate that light in to a pretty small area where it would have way to much brightness.
These are from the Canadian site. For a quantum board style this looks like a good option. You would need two of them and would want to dim them to about 60 or 70%.
https://www.amazon.ca/Phlizon-Dimmable-Spectrum-Waterproof-Growing/dp/B083SDVKTQ/ref=sr\_1\_19?crid=3W5DLH8L1N57&keywords=viparspectra&qid=1655585707&sprefix=viparspectra%2Caps%2C78&sr=8-19
A less efficient but possibly a better fit would be this from Barrina. I see them recommended by people with similar needs. https://www.amazon.ca/Barrina-Equivalent-Spectrum-Reflector-Greenhouse/dp/B07ZFLMTS9/ref=sr\_1\_15?crid=SZ7O7YVJU0QJ&keywords=barrina%2Bgrow%2Blight&qid=1655585717&sprefix=barr%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-15&th=1
You're honestly better of getting a clip on lamp holder like say this:
And outfitting it with a bog standard screw in grow light that you can get from the big box hardware store. Something like one of Feit's selectable 17W grow lights:
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That setup above will put more quality photons on the plant than any of the procedurally generated name junk you'll find on Amazon. It's not that they won't work, it's just their output is generally atrocious.
How are you planning on hanging it?
I don't know a lot about aroids but I think they are low light plants. Viparspectra's lowest power light is the P1000 and its pretty powerful compared to those purple lights you have. Probably 5x as powerful. But it's a square panel, it won't spread the light out along your shelf very well.
I would get a 4 pack of these and start by only using two:
Barrina Grow Light Bulb, 96W(4 x 24W, 600W Equivalent), Full Spectrum 2FT LED Grow Light, 2-Row V-Shape T8 Integrated LED Grow Light Strips, Plant Lights for Indoor Plants, 4-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZYPNG17/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_628FB8MR6T0BVPHJ5XD9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Something like this looks pretty good. Not an annoying purple red blue thing. Comes with a stand and you can angle the lights away from your eyes a bit. https://www.amazon.com/Lights-Indoor-Spectrum-Adjustable-Control/dp/B094J35S9C/ref=sr\_1\_9?crid=LT68GYTBQGB9&keywords=grow%2Blight&nav\_sdd=aps&qid=1653739014&refinements=p\_36%3A2661613011&rnid=2661611011&s=lawn-garden&am...
Can you solder? It’s pretty easy to do. Alternate 3000k & 5000k COB LED strips in an aluminum channel. You could even throw in the occasional red. If you can’t solder, could just lay each strip in the channel side by side. Would need a wide channel, Jack splitter, & a power supply big enough.
This supplier is pretty nice bc it has UL certification but no 5000k I think.
Search for “Muzata” aluminum channels. Lots of different styles.
COB is definitely the style of light you need at the end of the day. High lumen output, looks good bc no spotting, and lasts longer (I think).
It could be done. You would need a deep cycle battery like used in a golf cart. I just looked at one that could provide 200 amp hours and it was ~$150.
If you have a 48 watt 12V light (this would draw 4 amps) this would drive it for 50 hours max. Of course you would not want to drain that battery down like that but assuming a 12 hour on time this would allow you to charge the battery every other day and if you missed and went 3 days you would be ok. It would be quite the commitment to do it with a battery. You could use a light designed to be mounted on a truck or tractor to get a water proof one. Something like this. BTW if you can run a cord from that light fixture I would do that for sure. https://www.amazon.com/Tractor-Lights-Driving-Equipment-Vehicle/dp/B08P1RXQHR/ref=sr\_1\_11?keywords=12%2Bvolt%2Bled%2Bflood%2Blights&qid=1651708568&sr=8-11&th=1
the problem is that they do not include reflectors and I cannot find a single listing with the proper reflectors.
I was looking around in the US version of amazon to find better lights and pay extra for the shipping.
so far I have my eyes on two, both seem to have good reviews but they differ in their spectrum a little bit with one even supposedly having IR included.
Can you do me a favour and check both? not sure which one is better.
Pinkish white version of the ones I have. Kelvin number is unknown.
Seems to be a bit less power, but better spectrum is supposedly IR included
Thanks!
it appears that I might be able to return it after all. Not sure if they gonna reduce my refund because of the used double tapes and the UK plug we added to one of the wires...
Anyways, I found this one. is this better? Amazon link
You can find many brands on Amazon. Viparspectra is one of those brands. I've had these Viparspectra V900's for 3 years and they currently don't sell them anymore. These lights are quite big at 386 actual watts a piece. A pair of these back in the day cost $500-$600. The newer led lights are using more efficient Samsung 301b and 301h diodes. You can get them in any price range for any size grow space.
I've been looking at upgrading to this Viparspectra light for a 4' x 4' grow tent. Pretty expensive at this size.
2022 VIPARSPECTRA Latest KS5000 LED Grow Light 500W with Samsung LM301H Osram Diodes 6 Bars Grow Light, 4x4ft Coverage Full Spectrum Uniform Dimmable Daisy Chain Commercial Grow Lamp for Indoor Plants https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MTSY9G2/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_B16NSVQF37EZ6G8DRA0E
i think i bought 3 diffrent kinds, i think these
https://www.amazon.se/gp/product/B0919T6RBV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
are the ones running right now
I would be tempted to try this one out. Very low cost but uses good LEDs and has a dimmer. https://www.amazon.com/Briignite-Spectrum-Coverage-Dimmable-Seedling/dp/B08S34165C/ref=psdc\_14252941\_t1\_B08ZMWCLHC?th=1
See, we get up at 4/5am everyday so that’s not really a struggle with us. We just need something that an actual grow light, I have a feeling what we have now just isn’t strong enough or isn’t the right type of light to be a grow light.
LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants, Relassy 15000Lux Sunlike Full Spectrum Grow Lamp, Dual Head Gooseneck Plant Light with Replaceable Bulbs, Professional for Seedling Growing Blooming Fruiting https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C68N7PC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_1YRRS4WGYAWP9F5RE6DK?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
This is what we have now ^ As long as this one is an actual grow light, that’s my main concern
I watch the market closely and have yet to find a bulb solution that is competitive. Or that saves on vertical space. That said if you really need a bulb solution some thing like this would be a start. https://www.amazon.com/Briignite-Equivalent-Seedlings-Greenhouse-Hydroponic/dp/B08DRKGX5Y/ref=sr\_1\_11?dchild=1&keywords=ge+grow+light+br30&qid=1630450806&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-11
So you have just over 3.1 square feet. The TS600 is IMO good for about 2.5 square ft. So pretty close actually. I have one of these lights but it is my least favorite. Mostly because there is no dimmer. It is average at best from an efficiency standpoint also. Two of these would be too much light and too much heat. BTW Mars is far from the worst when it comes to optimism on coverage area. I would either just stick with it or get a Viparspectra P1500 from ebay for about $90. An alternative that looks good on paper but I cannot vouch for would be this light from Melonfarm. It has a dimmer which is a huge and it is very low cost. It uses a name brand driver and LEDs. This could be a supplemental light since you could just run it at a lower power. https://www.amazon.com/MELONFARM-Performance-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B08FWZWP6Z/ref=sr\_1\_1?dchild=1&keywords=led%2Bmelonfarm&qid=1630096060&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-1&th=1
This one uses 301b which has the same overall specs as the 301h. $200 with a coupon that is just clicking a box. https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Compatible-Included-MeanWell-Dimmable/dp/B08CHCFCG1
That said, $284 is not a horrible price if it is a quality product.
Hey there! So I was in your exact same position a while back and a good Redditor broke everything down for me regarding lights. If you’re looking for something inexpensive he suggested and I approve of these:
Yescom 225 White LEDs Grow Light Ultrathin Panel Hydroponics Indoor Plant Lamp for Growing Room Tent (Pack of 2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016CZMQEO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_N7M3RKK0V514R3A90QCP I don’t know what your budget is and if you’re going to grow a bunch more later but there’s another one that goes for about $150 ish but it’s solid! How big of a terrarium and will you be adding moss? I made the mistake of choosing moss by the looks instead of by the temperature it could live in, don’t make my mistake. Good luck!
Happy with this one so far
Limited-time deal: Uoiuxc Samsung LED Grow Lights for Indoor Plants Full Spectrum, Dimmable LED Grow Light QB 2000 for Veg Bloom with Updated 468 LEDs Grow Lamp 220 Watt https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08F35YT6Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6JVK4JKC4YDG40G9TWR0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
A little over budget, but two of these would be 300 real money(jk USD).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PLY1WKK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_EVSZMDGGA1YNE3WY4150?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 Let me know what you think I have more suggestions haha.
Feel free to DM me or whatever too. I only recommended spider farmers cuz it's all I use from seed to harvest and I live the results.
That being said different types of plants have different requirements. A bulb like this will appear white to the eye but provide a good spectrum for growing. There are more efficient and brighter solutions for fast growing plants but for something that is slow growing these should be appropriate for you. https://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-93101230-Balanced-Spectrum/dp/B07NN6SVG6
We have to guess at the area and height restrictions :-) That said I just ran in to this product on Amazon that looks pretty decent for a low end light. At least compared to the >$100 lights that are common in parts of the grow light industry. It has published specs that look decent. Watch out of lights that do not have spectrum and brightness in umols/m2s published. https://www.amazon.com/Freelicht-Equivalent-Spectrum-Integrated-Hydroponic/dp/B07ZCRY2GN
I bought these from Ammy two years ago. They work. Are they the best $$$ can buy? No. Do they fit the $60 range yes. I have a set of 5 shelves and put two lights on each shelf with zip ties. I grew peppers, eggplants, and tomato plants last year and had healthy plants that were not leggy. I added another set that were chainable, actually one light per shelf, that were a bit more maybe around $100 that had a different color spectrum. The lettuce that I grow year round liked having the additional lights and lettuce that was supposed to turn red actually turned red.
As always, I do not make any money from the Amazon link that I posted.
LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants,Sun-Like Full Spectrum Panel Plant Light with IR & UV LED Bulbs for Seedling/Veg/Blooming/Succulents https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082S7VSX6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_YWBFM3MGCWS7ZPYKA875?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
These are your ticket. Pick the slightly more expensive light that’s in a sunlight appearing spectrum. Perfect size (they’re tiny) and power for this distance
Good advice so far. A minimum of a 100 watt draw LED based light. Not the "blurple" but the quantum board style. Dimmer capability is nice. Amazon has both good and bad like most items. A few brands that are popular or Mars Hydro, Viperspectra, Maxisun, Bloom Plus, HLG and Spider Farmer. A few minutes of checking these out will be worth your while. Here is just one example of a light that is good for up to 20"x20" area or maybe a bit more. https://www.amazon.com/Spider-Farmer-Compatible-Samsung-Spectrum/dp/B084L1Y7KR
I use these in my greenhouse cabinet and they are fantastic. My ficus is growing finally, and all of my plants are super happy. Humidity of the greenhouse helps, too, obviously.
The comment about not buying from Amazon is odd. Lots of legitimate brands sell their products on Amazon. I wouldn’t trust the reviews there, but you can definitely buy quality items from Amazon. Just be sure to buy from the brand’s Amazon store. Or better, buy directly from their website.
Barrina Grow Light, 96W(4 x 24W, 600W Equivalent), 2ft T8, Super Bright, Full Spectrum Sunlight Plant Light, LED Grow Light Strips, Grow Light Bulbs for Indoor Plants, 4-Pack
I highly recommend looking at the setups on @ikeagreenhousecabinet on Instagram.
How about this one? GE BR30 Full Spectrum LED Grow Light Bulb for Indoor Plants, 9-Watt, Full, Balanced Lighting For Seeds & Greens https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07NN6SVG6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_XgJDFbM9KYTB9
I only paid 30 bucks. Bought off Amazon. For some reason the price isn't listed on the link but I checked my email and I paid $29.99. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MV2GF84/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_pVAPEbDY259WY