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You really remind me of this.

Anyway, here is my Belgian accent "je hebt mooie ogen": boop. Keep in mind that you might want to have an accent that's more Netherlandic Dutch if you want to impress a Dutch girl, and that my intonation isn't really ideal to come over as cute!

Pronouns is an area that is very distinct in Dutch relative to English in my experience and on top of that it where the Dutch also bury a lot of information within a sentence. This is why it feels harder to learn as it takes you longer to pick up the finer nuances involved and avoid trying to directly translate from the language.

Duo alone will never be enough because it doesn't give you enough context to absorb enough of that nuance and so I would say try to add a bit variation in your Dutch exposure such as TV or listening to Music. Don't get too frustrated though, pronouns are a bitch and you should focus on passive over active for something like this.

Also try searching Duolingo discussions as you are rarely the first to ask these things: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/4318020

From Duolingo.

”geen”

"geen" is used to negate a noun that, if not negated, would be preceded by "een".

• Is dat een koe? - Nee, dat is geen koe. (Is that a cow? - No, that is not a cow.)

It can also negate nouns that aren't preceded by any article, like some nouns in the plural and uncountable nouns.

• Hebben jullie boeken? - Nee, we hebben geen boeken. + (Do you have books? - No, we don't have books.)

By the way, I see you're using the mobile version of Duolingo. I suggest you also check out its desktop version, since it often has useful grammar tips. These are the notes for the Questions section, for instance.

Correct me if I'm wrong but when you have a modal verb, it takes the place of the main verb ie the 2nd word order place. the verb that is being described get thrown the the end of the idea and becomes an infinitive form.

https://www.duolingo.com/skill/dn/Verbs%3A-Modal/tips-and-notes

Try Duolingo; they have a Dutch course! I've been using Duolingo for French and just started Dutch. It's pretty good for a free program. Here's a link:

https://www.duolingo.com/course/nl-NL/en/Learn-Dutch-Online

Sorry, I should have been more clear: (NL)/(VL) was meant to indicate whether the word was used mainly in the Netherlands/Flanders, respectively (I'm Flemish myself).

IMHO, all of those words could be used both offensively and playfully. If your coworker has any sense of humour he probably won't be offended.

Pronunciations (from forvo.com):

http://www.forvo.com/word/zeurpiet!/#nl

http://www.forvo.com/word/zeurkous!/

I couldn't find the other ones, so I'll just list the IPA here:

lastpost: ['lɑstpɔst]

zagevent: ['zaːɣəvɛnt]

profiteur: [prɔfɪ'tøːr]

Thanks.

I found this one on android too, which actually has a game mode which gives me what I want.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lubosmikusiak.articuli.dehet

Had only found these as lookup resources before which isn't as useful

Here is a free textbook (read: .pdf I found on google).

Amazon also offers a decent selection of textbooks. I guess it doesn't really matter which textbook you use, as long as you just pick one and get your study on. If a certain textbook skips a part, than you can always find the info online or learn it from the context. It might be one of those things one textbook mentions but another one doesn't, because they expect you to learn that from context and experience.

Some grammar isn't explained in some places. For example: (and I have never learned this at school myself) a former American colleague of mine once told me that we use one verb in a sentence and then stick the other verbs at the end. I never noticed that until he mentioned it.

Wordfeud (free) is a Scrabble like game. It's available in Dutch. It's even possible to play this with your bf!

Another app/game to learn dutch words is a game called "4 plaatjes 1 woord". It's a game where 4 pictures are shown and the player needs to find the correct word fitting those pictures. Really fun!

Links: (Google play store android).
Wordfeud:. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hbwares.wordfeud.free.
4 plaatjes 1 woord:. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lotum.whatsinthefoto.nl.

If you have an iPhone search for them on the AppStore. Im sure they're on there as well!

And that's why it's time to change to Sync. Flairs? Check. Flair images? Also check! Everything that people say "on mobile, can't x" Sync can do.

I'm not even shilling for them, I just really fucking like Sync.

Hi there. The app authenticates you using this Duolingo api: https://www.duolingo.com/2017-06-30/login?fields=. it the authentication is successful i retrieve a token. I then use the token to be able to retrieve your learned words, their translations, and to be able to change the language from inside the app. I DO NOT store your credentials anywhere except on your phone so that you can press the "sync now" button whenever you want without having to type in your credentials again.

See this explanation on Duolingo

Generally, geen is used to negate nouns, and niet is used to negate verbs. Geen sorta translates to "no" or "none" (ex. Ik heb geen boeken = I have no books), while Niet translates to "don't" (ex. Ik ren niet = I don't run)

DuoLingo is a pretty good place to start in my experience. It's not a perfect resource (the Dutch team try their best but DuoLingo itself limits them quite a lot), but it's one of the most accessible and straightforward ways of getting started.

I study English from Dutch and Dutch from English on Duolingo, practice my words in Readlang throughout the day (I have 5700 words in there now) http://readlang.com/learn, I watch the news in Dutch on VRT in the evenings on television and when I have time I read Pieter Aspe novels and watch Aspe on television they have a 9 season police series which I have on the computer.. (this is the hardest because it is not easy to understand all the accents whereas they speak well on the news and that is mostly OK)

Linguee is very very good for this.

https://www.linguee.com/english-dutch/search?source=dutch&query=het+water

And you get all these real-world sentence pairs like:

Ask the local drinking water supplier for information on the water hardness (total hardness) of the drinking water.

Vraag de waterhardheid (totale hardheid) van het drinkwater op bij het plaatselijke drinkwaterbedrijf.

(Often a lot simpler than that, but I liked that one.)

Find a sentence, or a bit of a sentence, that is fun or memorable and memorize it!

Even just reading a page of quotes about "het water" will make it hard to forget "het water" and give you a lot of Dutch-feeling sentences.

There's a Jeugdjournaal app for news articles for kids, sometimes supplemented with videos. Reading that and Duolingo should get you almost to the point of understanding most of the comments at r/thenetherlands, which is good for seeing casual and occasionally formal Dutch. Linguee is an indispensable tool for translating phrases (and words) and seeing plenty of examples.

You might find this site useful: http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show_all_in/nld/eng/none

Or the book Complete Dutch: Teach Yourself (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1444102389/), which involves a lot of basic sentences, mostly in the form of illustrative conversations between people.

For any learners who are interested in short, common sentences and their translations, Tatoeba is great. It's a user-maintained database of interconnected translations in almost every language, including Dutch.

Eventueel kan men ook "The Indonesian way" gebruiken, het is helaas niet meer gratis. Er is iemand die er ook een Memrise course voor heeft gemaakt: https://www.memrise.com/course/924675/university-of-hawaii-indonesian-way-audio/

Ik zoek ook nog naar goede resources, ik hoop het een beetje te kunnen spreken voor het einde van het schooljaar aangezien ik dan misschien voor een jaartje naar Jakarta ga.

Have you tried to see if amazon.nl will ship to you? I have this edition. It's great. I had a hard time getting over that they translated Bilbo Baggins to Bilbo Balings, but, I understand the reasoning.

https://www.amazon.de/Deutsche-Grammatik-deutsch-niederlandische-Beschreibung-Fremdspracherwerb/dp/9062834353

Big, big recommendation! It's exactly what you're looking for, and the explanations are entirely written auf Deutsch :)

(I use it myself because I'm studying German)

Not very well yet! But I have spent a lot of time with Germanic languages and others. My friend wants to learn Norwegian so I can help him better since I can translate Norwegian to dutch instead of English. There are similarities but the main issue he still struggles with is "jeg" in Norwegian! Haha ("jeg" is I but "jij", which sounds the same, is "you" in Dutch. Pretty understandable.) It's fun for us though because we both learn a language, and I get to practice my Dutch.

It's been fun, and you get to use the similarities or differences in how sentences are formed, depending on which language you both choose to learn. It's not entirely about English. Learning new languages are very fun as well so it could be an enjoyable pastime for you two. :)

I use NordVPN and it works for me on Netflix, so I'm unsure if it's just because of a different VPN service or what, but maybe try switching to different countries or retrying before so it doesn't recognize where you are? You can also check out YouTube and other streaming services sometimes for Dutch versions of whatever show or movie.

also has dutch books as well. :)

Hey there, yes I paused the indiegogo campaign after a few people here told me that the costs and the campaign goals were too high, so I will try to optimize.

For now here is the app link on the play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apps.thecelestialcoder.hieroglyphswallpaper

Not for learning, but I found that listening to dutch radio is somewhat helpful. I use this app. So far, here are my favorite radio stations:

• 100% NL (from Rotterdam, often plays pop music)
• Niuws Radio ( not sure if the spelling is correct)
• Kinderen radio

clozemaster (app) and website though it's mostly really for vocabulary and repetition, the audio is terrible so switch that better off ;-) It has an interesting motivation system, that's quite nice

Duolingo themselves explain it in the lecture notes: https://www.duolingo.com/skill/dn/Verbs%3A-Modal/tips-and-notes > * both are possible, but in formal writing you should use the form ending on -t.

The lecture notes contain vital information without which you will have a hard time to apply the learnings in actual sentences.

However, the notes are not accessible on the mobile app. If you learn on mobile, I suggest opening the web version of Duolingo every time you start a new topic, and quickly read through the tips of that topic.

There's a trivia based language learning app on Google play thats good for learning basic vocabulary in Dutch. It's called Language Towers

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.MapleBay.LanguageTowers

Take a look at De Opmaat! Others here have mentioned it, too.

https://www.amazon.nl/opmaat-naar-NT2-niveau-A2/dp/9024431999/ref=sr\_1\_5?crid=6NXFQMNDGVCL&keywords=de+opmaat&qid=1654753956&sprefix=de+opmaat%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-5

Er is inmiddels een wordle/lingo app op zowel Android als iOS in het Nederlands te spelen, gratis en zonder ads:
iOS: https://apps.apple.com/be/app/masterword/id1605809600?l=nl
Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.dragamstudios.masterword

Though I haven't used it, but gutenberg is a good source of public-domain dutch books.

https://www.gutenberg.org/browse/languages/nl

Though, I must warn you - according to my wife, they are in somewhat "old Dutch" but it can be nonetheless useful.

What is your approximate level? There is always woezel en pip, or jip en janneke off US Amazon which is readily available in dutch. These are challenging for A1/A2 level (my current level). I have Harry Potter but I fee likel they require more or less a A2/B1 level. ik ben op het eerste boek maar ik voel het lezen het voelt langzaam. ik ben alleen op A1, misschien A2.

The explanations already posted are great, so definitely use those! Here's what really helped me grasp the concept. When using Duolingo on a laptop, go to your Duo tree and select the 'stressed pr.' lesson near the beginning of the tree. Then, instead of practicing, click on the lightbulb icon and this will give you a full, extensive breakdown with examples of how and when to use them. (I'll link where it is too: https://www.duolingo.com/skill/dn/stressed-pronouns/tips-and-notes) It definitely takes practice and there's no direct easy answer, but referring to these lightbulbs when practicing has really helped make the concepts stick with me.

It sounds like you are still a beginner, so maybe the Simon cartoon series would be good? Season 1 is available on Netflix India (according to justwatch). On netflix USA it has Flemish dutch audio and english (or vietnamese) subtitles available. I assume they make the same languages available on Netflix India. To me, Flemish seems close enough to 'normal' Dutch that watching it seems like a reasonable way to learn. But I'm just a beginner too, though, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. But I definitely get practice hearing words I learned on duolingo, and I pick up new words here and there (without knowing which are flemish specific and which overlap with netherlands dutch).

Season 2 is available on NPO Plus with netherlands dutch audio and no subtitles if you have a VPN with NL exit points and an NPO Plus account (€2.95/month , payable via paypal)

I put more links and info here: /r/learndutch/comments/i4qfa2/the_simon_cartoons_are_great_links_inside_but_are/

The thing that helped me most learning English was reddit. Started browsing it about 2 years ago and now I pretty much feel like I'm fluent.

So maybe browsing Dutch websites might help you a lot, you can check out alexa.com for popular ones. Although I guess since you're living in the Netherlands you're already getting lots of practice, so maybe just give it some time. In case you're not getting anywhere teaching yourself maybe consider an actual language course at a school?

English students frequently say to me that Dutch is the easiest language to learn. It makes sense, because Dutch is part of the Germanic branch of the Indo-European family of languages, just like English. And if you compare it to another language of that family, German, it's much easier.

The Netherlands . There are around 23 million native speakers of Dutch worldwide. Dutch is spoken in the Netherlands, Belgium (Flanders) and Suriname. Dutch is also an official language of Aruba, Curaçao and St Maarten.

on dutch channels from the Netherlands there is much more choice.

and netflix DOES have a great Dutch language movie library

(pro-tip: start with zwartboek ('black book') by Paul Verhoeven)

https://www.netflix.com/search/nederlands/suggestion/0

Brilliant!

I have some collections of Dutch separable and inseparable verbs (here, and you seem to be missing a few separable prefixes:

• weg- (wegvallen, weggaan)
• goed- (goeddoen, goedhouden)
• binnen- (binnenkommen)
• weer- (weerhouden)
• samen- (samenlopen)

There are also a couple of prefixes that I don't think are separable, but I'll add for completeness:

• na- (nahouden)
• her-, er-, ge-
• mis- (misgaan)
• vol- (voldoen)

DutchGrammar.com says that those last two are sometimes separable, in fact.

ALSO: let me know when you're done with this, because it would take me a half an hour to write a program to convert this into one big Memrise (or into your favorite memorization format, ask me!)

If you want to help translate something interesting, I've put up a thing I've been working on in the Immersion section of Duolingo. I'd love some help translating it if you're up for it.

Prisma dictionaires are good and usually decently priced. Another good choice would be Van Dale

I am prepping for inburgering exams via Preply, finding the teacher and booking a lesson. The prices are quite ok, somewhere from 8-16 euros per private lesson. What we do is we take those public samples for prep, and going through answers and discussing those. Also, you can just state that you want to practise speaking part. Didn't want to take a group lesson, because of the commute and etc. It is just easier like this :)

https://preply.com/en/?pref=MTQzNDAyOA==

Check out these two links:

https://www.learndutch.org/

https://preply.com/en/tutor/123435/

I know someone who is very impressed with both. (not firsthand experience, so I can't help you further). Good luck.

This received a few reports, so I thought I'd address them here. After a (brief) review, nothing in OP's post nor the script appears to infringe on anybody's copyright. The utility simply authenticates and then, in the same fundamental way any other tool such as HTTrack or youtube-dl operates, downloads available content. I don't believe this poses any problems.

As always, though, it's ultimately each user's responsibility to ensure their use is legal and not in violation of any ToS or similar. Use at your own risk.

Honestly, I don't know so much about Anki(I tried to get into it but didn't like it much) but I think they don't have the pronunciation of the words?
This website lets me choose words by level Here
And I can add the example sentences to my sentences list to review later. I like learning a new word while listening to how its read and try to understand the sentences they are used in. For example there are many words that mean "to take" but you see there are special usages to them and you can learn it by studying the sentences. Also if there are separable verbs in a sentence you can see what they are when you hover over the words. You can hover over any word in the sentences, listen to them and see what they mean. When you review they give you random words that you added to your list and you can choose to study them again in a day or in 5 days or in 5 mins.

Memrise is great for vocabulary. Duolingo should be introducing a vocab (or words) section pretty soon as they have been testing it out.

For accurate pronunciations, Forvo is great. The recordings are marked by the speaker's region.

No idea if this will help because I haven't tried automating anki card production myself, but there's the "trans" command line utility. You can set the flags to get exactly and only the parts of the definition you want. There's a setting for which dictionary to use. It uses google by default but I had it using deepl instead (I just tried it and deepl may not be working right now?). https://github.com/soimort/translate-shell Here's some example output:

geode❀ ~/bin🐟 /usr/local/bin/trans en:nl -show-original n -show-original-dictionary n -show-languages n outbreak

uitbraak

​

Definitions of outbreak

​

noun

het uitbreken

outbreak

oproer

insurrection, revolt, rebellion, insurgency, mutiny, outbreak

​

outbreak

uitbraak, het uitbreken

I'm a beginner but I really like Reverso Context for this kind of question. It lets you see how something has been translated in the past which is great for translating non literal phrases.

https://context.reverso.net/translation/dutch-english/in+zichzelf+keren

I see what you mean there, but I don't think those are its only definitions. Checking here: https://context.reverso.net/translation/dutch-english/sowieso it's also listed as "anyway" and "in the first place". Are you sure there aren't more meanings you may just not be aware of as a native since you use them so naturally?

> "Ik ben zojuist getrouwd." The last signature has been put on the marriage certificate a few seconds ago and you're officially marriage just now.

Most of the examples of use of zojuist on Linguee aren't "a few seconds": https://www.linguee.com/dutch-english/translation/zojuist.html

I made this for myself and hope this might help you too. The video is based on 2 memrise courses

• https://www.memrise.com/course/1121354/dutch-1/
• https://www.memrise.com/course/1121355/dutch-2/

Somehow, audio in memrise stopped working for me ;(

Note that it seems clicking "Start course" is not working right now, I assume this is a bug or something that will soon be fixed.

EDIT: Just started working, the course is open to everyone. Go to this page and click on "Start course" - make a Duolingo account first, if you don't already have one.

There's also this book, which I picked up along with it: https://www.amazon.com/Dutch-Short-Stories-Beginners-Captivating/dp/1951949196

Imo, Assimil, Niederländisch ohne Mühe + Niederländisch für Dummies + graded readers/bilingual readers would be enough for a long time, along with reddit and youtube of course. Thanks for your reply.

I've been working through this

It's not bad. Not amazing either, but if you really want to hone in on your grammer it does the trick. There's a more advanced one too. I haven't used that yet.

https://www.amazon.nl/Deutsche-Grammatik-deutsch-niederlandische-Beschreibung-Fremdspracherwerb/dp/9062834353

I personally love this book. It was recommended by my university when I was learning German (I’m a Dutch native speaker).

I found this one to be really helpful. If you get the kindle version it even has the more difficult vocab highlighted with links to the definitions.

https://www.amazon.com/Short-Stories-Dutch-Beginners-vocabulary-ebook/dp/B08196DCYK/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=dutch+reader&qid=1606287155&sr=8-2

> For reading: > > > > - Short stories in Dutch (https://www.amazon.com/Short-Stories-Dutch-Beginners-Richards/dp/1529302862): beginner level stories with some vocabulary explained. > > - Some young adults novels. I found the translation of 'The hunger games' good, because the vocabulary is pretty basic.

Another reading resource is comic books. Much of those is written as dialogue in an informal style, which I think helps with getting a handle on the language. Something like Asterix has awesome translators too, who do a great job at translating those originally French jokes.

This sounds very familiar :)

You could try joining the Discord (http://discord.gg/ZCYr6Jy). There are lots of helpful native speakers there, and there's often someone in the voice chat.

I personally found De Delftse Methode helpful for practicing speaking. I used the app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.uitgeverijboom.groeneboek). You can try the first few lessons for free, if you want to see whether it suits you.

I'm curious about your experience with italki. I've found it quite useful, so I'm wondering what makes you say it didn't work.

Disclaimer: I'm not religious either but I've heard some strict, old-fashioned religious people call out anything more recent than the Herziene Statenvertaling as a "bad influence", so those are probably the ones that are good material for normal, modern people.

The default translation for the app you mentioned, the Nieuwe Bijbelvertaling, doesn't read that archaic to me either. It's probably closer to the Greek/Hebrew original which can make the wording more challenging, but as far as written Dutch goes it's good training material for the more advanced Dutch student.

There's another free app, Bijbel + Audio which has an audio version without signing up for any accounts (there's a registration popup but you can close it). It comes with the Het Boek translation and audio book, which is written in modern Dutch.

I wouldn't consider "destijds" such a strange word. It's not something you use often in spoken language, but it's very common in written Dutch.

I get it. Yeah. That sounds fun. I do speak another language and a bit of German, too. But I think that has been wiped out by the Dutch by now. Haha. I also love looking at the similarities in languages, as well. And Dutch is really so close to English that it is fun to find the hidden connections between the two.

I have NordVPN, too. Weird. Maybe I can message you, because I have only tried to use it on my phone and it sees it right away. Or maybe you have a link to a site somewhere that explains how you use it.

And I’ll have to check out Librivox. I haven’t been on there in years.

Thanks for taking the time to explain it all. 🤗

Get a VPN with access to Belgium and the Nederlands, I use and you can access all the television stations, most of which have Dutch subtitles.

If you create a Dutch account on Netflix, you can also access Dutch subtitles. It will not change the languages available to the show or let you access the Dutch Netflix offerings, but the subtitles will be available in Dutch. So far I know of one show in Dutch, though. (Toon)

Hi!

Yes that would becuase the giveaway has ended.

But we just released it and it's available here now: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CNJHLVX

I hope you like it! :-)

Another giveaway in about a month from now.

Its like the vicious circle - if you dont understand audio you dont listen to audio. Some of the series are not that hard to comprehend (especially when you have the live action in the same time and dutch subtiles) like crime series, I especially liked Professor T (it seems it is now available on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Professor-T-Season-3/dp/B07SG7M5RR) , on netflix now debuted a historical drama series, Jan de Lichte story https://www.netflix.com/nl/title/81054827 ) If you feel to bad with dutch audio, you could follow english subtitles

One last suggestion /u/BenKent6: if you're looking to avoid pricier books, the Code Nederlands books are useful and written in basic Dutch, teaching Dutch.

You can pick them up on eBay or Amazon for usually only a few quid: first book and second book.

They also have workbooks, but I just use those textbooks. Cheap as chips and pretty helpful overall, well structured and forgiving for beginners. :)

Try using flashcard tools like the Beginner Dutch app and the StartFromZero_Dutch app to practice and grow your Dutch vocabulary at your own pace and convenience.

A flashcard tool you could try using is the Beginner Dutch app to easily begin learning on your own some of the basic Dutch words and phrases from scratch on your own at your own pace and convenience.

Have you looked into getting a Dutch frequency dictionary?

*This one lists the most common 2500 words with phonetic pronunciation and 2500 Dutch to English example sentences.

*this one lists 10,000 of the most used Dutch words, also with pronunciation but doesn't have example sentences.

Hope this helps!

> tapijtreiniger

After spending some time looking, I'm concerned I can only find full size carpet cleaners (tapijtreiniger). I'm looking for a small "spot" cleaner as I have a dog and children, but little carpet. I was thinking something small like a Rug Doctor or this. I would prefer to buy from a local Dutch store from a EU brand.

It's not quite about learning Dutch, but any ideas?

I'm working with two textbooks: Nederlands In Gang, and Taal Thuis.

Nederlands in gang. Lehrbuch mit Audio-CD https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/3125288762/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_ixBCwbA3WZ4D3

Taalthuis https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/9461056168/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_2zBCwbC9RJ5DK

very interesting, thank you! I'm learning Dutch through duolingo, but exposing myself to the language by watching the news and weather on deredactie.be. And Disney movies. I have not picked up this pronoun business by watching "het weer met Frank (of Sabine)".

You might enjoy This book about the history of English and how it diverged from the other Germanic languages. It really hammers home your point of "it is silly to talk of these phonemena as 'mistakes'".

Whether app/online/institute is better really depends on your personal learning style.

I Learned Dutch before online or apps were an option, but I bought a cassette (remember those?) course and never got round to doing it because I'm a lazy bastard. It was only when I signed on to a course at my local college that I actually did anything about learning the language.

If I were starting from scratch now, I'd probably do a college course for the interaction with someone I could get real human feedback from, and supplement it with an app like Learn Dutch for vocabulary practice.

I've been using this app.

It is just for vocabulary training, so no good if you don't have the basics of the language, such as grammar, but if like me you need to improve your vocabulary it's ideal.

I get a lot of value out of listening to Dutch-language radio.

In the past I used Amsterdam's Radio Tien Gold, but that's now little more than a streaming jukebox. So now I listen a lot to VRT2 out of Antwerpen. The advantage of both is that being music-based you're not intensively trying to understand what's being said but you get breaks (and living in England, a far better range of music than any station here).

I still haven't got there, but with the help of the Learn Dutch app, I'm heading in the right direction.