You mean, like, uh, Bandcamp?
I love Bandcamp. You get high quality rips, cheaply (FLAC if you want, typically for $0.99 per track), and most of the income (85 to 90%) goes directly to the artists (or whoever set up the account).
If I may make a suggestion...
If you want to post tracks to share and get feedback, check out soundcloud.
If you want to put up something more finalized for sale, check out bandcamp.
Whenever you do put something out there, remember to submit it here, I'm sure we'll be interested.
seriously: use bandcamp. upload your music, and then people can stream and/or easily buy your music in a variety of formats. it can be free or you can set a price. they even have a widget that embeds nicely in facebook if people share a link.
You have loads of options:
http://bandcamp.com <- Favourite
I think they let you have the option of getting money for downloads... wherever you choose to do it, I will definitely buy a few tracks =)
As dunnowhathuh said, please don't make this iTunes exclusive - Bandcamp and (if possible) Spotify would be great to have your music on. Best of luck in the future and I look forward to your first full album (funded via Kickstarter of course).
Step one: go to bandcamp.com/artists, sort by new
Step two: Download free music in every format
Step three: Upload to what, watch the seedboxes autosnatch everything within minutes
Step four: repeat
You can do this without a seedbox and still earn at least 1 GB a day. Not a lot if you insist on downloading 24-bit vinyl FLACs for every album, but if you need those a seedbox is a sound and reasonable investment.
try bandcamp. it has all the functionality you asked for with a clean interface and a way for your fans to download your music for free or for a fee. plus it has embeddable players for your other websites and such.
I think the emerging donate-button system is making the difference you're thinking in a crowd-sourced way. I see requests for donations all the time on the download page of free music and in free podcasts I listen to. Bandcamp and others like have this built in, as well as payment-first options. The full range is being experimented with, just a question of what works best in what situation, so long as it isn't completely bulldozed anytime soon.
http://bandcamp.com/tag/stoner-metal
I started with Red Fang, then got Gandhis Gunn, Incarnadine, Iron Giant and KOMATSU. Awesome shit. Disperse the Curse is pretty cool too.
See also: /r/stonerrock and /r/stonermetal
I disagree, GOG would be better of if they started selling indie games on their own. Desura's Steam-like digital distributor really clashes with GOG's DRM free policy. I would really like to see GOG become the Bandcamp of the video game world.
Buy your music on a site like bandcamp. Artists get something like 90% of the revenues, you can listen to the entire album (as 128 kbps mp3) for free, everything is available in most major audio formats (including WAV and FLAC), and many albums are either cheap or use the "name your own price" model.
The only problem is that you can't get many big-name artists, but so what? There's tons of great music on there, and if you really need to listen to Kanye or Tool, then you can afford to go out and pay $10-15 for the album.
And if you're going to pirate music anyway, then stop pretending that you're doing it for the artist's benefit.
Right. Okay. So I'd still recommend just listening to an audiobook or, especially, music. Ленинград and Сектор Газа are a couple of my favorites. They're what you could call rock/punk with a stylistic emphasis on obscenity. Also, if you like rap (which I highly recommend for language learners due to its high word content), then check out Krec, Кравц, Многоточие, and Красное Дерево. If you like experimental/electronic, try Самое Большое Простое Число (СБПЧ for short), Пёс и Группа, and Ёлочные Игроши (though I have to say, СБПЧ doesn't have a lot of lyrics).
The reasoning behind this is that you want to expose your ears to as much Russian as possible. That'll be way more useful to you than listening to people talk in English saying, "Repeat after me," pause, "меня зовут," pause, "меня зовут," pause, "Very good!" If you can find a band that you like and can get their songs stuck in your head, then that's 100 times for effective than listening to a shitty, boring ass language CD.
Also, for the audio book, Метро 2033 is pretty good, but an audio book is going to be way less captivating than music if you don't already have a solid handle on the language.
And, one last quick thing for language: http://bandcamp.com/tag/russia might help. I even recommend looking for tags of individual cities like Moscow and St. Petersburg especially. Also, try питер as a tag. That's Petersburg's nickname. It might yield some more bands if you've exhausted the other options. Band camp is especially great since a lot of bands have their work for free download.
I could go on for days about Russian and Russian music. If you want me to compile for you a more complete list of Russian music, send me a PM. I can't guarantee that I'll get to it in a timely fashion, but I'd definitely give you a much better list of the classics and Russian music's who's-who.
It's a kind of sliding scale thing I think: Bandcamp pricing FAQ. You can set up a particular kind of Paypal account which really lowers your charges, and Bandcamp has the advantage of being reputable, reliable, and gives the ability to stream the music.
tl;dr I'm really wet for Bandcamp.
Not the only one by any means, but the one I'm most familiar with. Unless by "all" you meant even music signed to a label. In which case Megaupload would never get their tracks, either.
You should check out Bandcamp. They only take a 15% cut compared to iTunes' 30% and you can offer your music in FLAC and Ogg as well as mp3 and AAC.
edit: I don't work for them or anything, I just wish more artists used it so I could get all my music in lossless format without having to buy CDs.
> something like MySpace for promotion + iTunes for distribution.
Just please, never even jokingly suggest neither Myspace nor iTunes as sole providers of music content.
I think you might want to set up a bandcamp page and you can automate your sales.
Unless you think you can do it all yourself, I think it's more than worth then 15% cut that bandcamp takes from every sale.
It's really easy and the end result is very slick, that's mine...never miss a chance to shamelessly promote yourself. Especially because you don't suck.
Posted this a couple weeks ago on here and /r/under10k but it didn't get as much love. Glad more people enjoyed listening. You can preview their upcoming album on bandcamp.
I use bandcamp! Shameless plug for my band Vidrios . Anyway, I really like it. The audio quality is good, the integration to facebook is ultra streamlined, the servers are quick so I can skip around and the songs load quickly. The iphone app is good too.
What I'd like to see: greater ease adjusting the music, for one. Forcing the page to load the tracks in a specific way seems silly. Yeah you can make "sets" but that seems more roundabout than just adjusting the original home page. Also the look of the pages is a bit bland. Keep the audio widget the same, but allow some html or at least provide color scheme options would make it a more customizable client. Also a button that directly takes you to your settings at the top would be good. Every time I log in to edit something I forget where i have to click.
A really cool addition would be video integration! Not hosting of course, that would be a pain, but if there was a tab where you could stack youtube links for music videos, it would super augment traffic I'm certain of it. I'll post more as I think of them, and I'll ask my band too! Your service is awesome.
Can we PLEASE give bandcamp more attention?
They already let artists keep 85% of their sales right off the bat, if they sell over $5000 and stay over that per year, than they get 90%.
From the article:
> I don’t ever want to sound bitter, but the making of the last record and the whole process was really disheartening for me. I was really disappointed, because I thought it was a great record, and we put a lot of work into it. And people just don’t buy CDs. They download the shit, get some tracks or whatever. And it’s everybody.
Which is curious, because from, say, the Bandcamp homepage, you get this:
> On Bandcamp, albums outsell tracks 5 to 1 (in the rest of the music buying world, tracks outsell albums 16 to 1).
So I'm not sure what makes the people buying music at one particular online shop different to the others, but there's at least one oasis of album-loving music fans, if not several.
Though it might not mesh with a folk rock styling, I tend to take a lot of my own photography and stock images (off stock image websites!) then essentially make a collage and overlay many different pictures until I wind up with some atmospheric image that I feel is representative of what I want. This was my older demo album artwork that I used this method. Ironically, I am currently working on another album and the artwork is sitting right in front of me as I am working to piece it together. I generally look to invoke some sort of atmosphere as opposed to having a structured style I want to go with.
Bandcamp (stream entire albums before purchase) and Addictech have some pretty neat stuff, as well as Ecktoplazm (all music is free).
edit: link
I'm sure a lot of music types already know, but I gotsta mention it. It's pretty much the best thing to happen to the music industry in the past 30 years. The most powerful music marketing tool on the planet imho. These guys deserve so much props.
How about this? http://bandcamp.com/tag/disco Dunno if it's what you're after, but you could end up spinning some awesome stuff that they've never heard before. If it isn't what you need, change the tag to something more appropriate; jazz, funk, etc.
This is a place that hasn't been mentioned: Bandcamp It presents artists with (mostly) fully streaming tracks and if you like the track/album album then you can directly buy it on multiple formats.
A recent section is the Discovernator that gives a quick glance at new albums/highest rated/most popular.
There are some well known artists (like Sufjan Stevens and Lana del Rey) but most are very unknown.
I cancelled my personal Myspace but find that I actually use the site for a lot of music discovery and quick listens. They have turned into the "social music" site so I don't think it would hurt if you created a new page for your band and uploaded a few songs. Myspace is usually the first hit when I search for a band online anyways...
http://bandcamp.com/ is much better though - especially for selling online.
Bandcamp is an amazing website for bands - see http://bandcamp.com/tag/metalcore
Bandcamp works great. It's fairly cheap, too:
>15% revenue share on sales.
>[... ]the revenue share drops to 10% as soon as you reach $5,000 USD in sales (and stays there, provided you've made at least $5,000 in the past 12 months).
As a buyer, I'm more comfortable with spending money on Bandcamp than I would be on Amazon's mp3 store (I don't have an iPod, so I don't use iTunes). From what I've heard, the royalties that iTunes give are much less than a band would make from Bandcamp (which takes 15% commission, and is upfront about the charge).
It would be a shame if underground bands didn't distribute digitally - it's much easier for me to check out a new band if I can get it digitally. If I can't get it, it doesn't exist to me, and so I'm not going to be able to listen to it at all. CD distribution is more expensive, which means that I'm probably not going to make a gamble on a band I haven't heard of, unless it's got a very good buzz.
tl;dr: if your band is good, chances are people will want to buy it. Let them
They would be my two favourite Irish female singers so well chosen :)
Check out Gillens. They have a free album on Bandcamp. Tieranniesaur and Jape are both great bands too. Owensie would be a good singer/songwriter type also.
A good starting point is Bandcamp. You'll be able to stream tonnes of Irish indie acts there and find something to your tastes.
Yeah, the Paypal account is in my name/SSN so it's kind of like a personal business thing right now. We basically followed these instructions in order to do so, so yes, it is a "Business" account.
I use Amazon MP3 to download my music and I've got no complaints so far apart from that if you lose the files you have to pay for them again. I guess that's closer to conventional retail though, like if I'd lost my CD I couldn't just write a letter to the company asking for a new one.
I got the Minecraft soundtrack from Bandcamp. It's a site for independent musicians, and the site only takes 15% of sales, then 10% after the artist makes 5000 USD in a year.
To listen requires a Facebook "Like". Nothing personal, but I'm not going to "Like" something if I haven't heard it, and I don't have a Facebook account.
Sorry, but you're limiting your audience; may I suggest http://soundcloud.com/ and http://bandcamp.com/ as an alternative?
8bc is pretty much for n00bs these days, mostly. their charts arent going to be representative of whats going on, as a significant portion of the top names have boycotted the site... id suggest the "releases" section of chipmusic.org to hear whats really going down.
also, browsing the bandcamp "chiptune" tag charts is always great: http://bandcamp.com/tag/chiptune
and, if you dont already, definitely check the releases on the legit chip labels: 8bitbeoples, pause, C'n'b, Data Airlines, and Bleep Street. All A-List stuff.
it makes me sad when i hear weak chiptunes being represented on the radio :(
Even though it's maybe not exactly what you were looking for, have a look at bandcamp if you're after flac. They don't offer your everyday radio-music, but as a bonus a lot of their music is free to download (legally). They advertise with "... album in your choice of MP3 320, FLAC, or just about any other format you could possibly desire."
This really needs to be at the top. I don't know why more people don't do this. Go here, sort by newest, and get every free 2010 and 2011 album in FLAC, v0, and 320k. Every one is automatically snatched as soon as you up it. I spend a while doing this in my free time and average at least 500MB-1GB a night.
wikipedia bro... just look up the artists that you like, find out who they have collaborated with in the past, check out projects that other members of the group have started, look up who they tour with. If you're feeling lazy just get on pandora, they do all the work for you. Sites like bandcamp and soundcloud are good too.
You can also listen to their self-titled album in 128kbps here, and purchase it for download in DRM-free lossless FLAC or 320kbps mp3/ogg: http://ludique.bandcamp.com/album/ludique
The artist gets approx 80% of what you pay and it's totally worth it to keep them making the music they love making.
Rockfour, Eatliz, Geva Alon and Amit Erez - all of them sing in English, but their music is amazing in universal standards in my opinion, not just Israeli-Channel-24-crap-music standards.
Btw, Jamendo is a website full of CC licensed music, and there's a lot more of it online, for example on Bandcamp. On Jamendo it's all free, on Bandcamp some is free and some is not.
r/Listetothis would also be a good place to share. I would link directly to your youtube videos. That way people can watch/listen without leaving Reddit. Links from Bandcamp work the same way. /$.02
It was this record: http://bandcamp.com/files/25/60/2560677853-1.jpg
A friend of mine plays bass for this band and they had a vinyl release show a few months back and since then I've started to collect vinyl!
Did you not see Cloud too? God, that's just awful . . . I can't even call it art.
Edit: Scoured the source and here's the link to their tiled background. *barfs*
I don't use bandcamp, so I can't help you trouble shoot, but their FAQ says they take 32 bit wav files. It also says that they automatically add metadata to all tracks, so you don't have to worry about that.
Look over their upload trouble faq. If that doesn't work, you might want to contract the site's tech support.
aah good that you say it! i will put it in the guidelines soon im thinking anything like Soundcloud, Youtube or Bandcamp if you know any other site like that pleas tell them. i think there also should be a direct download link to the mp3
I agree with you for the most part. But what do 'morals' have to do with this? The artist gives consent to be fucked up the ass, and as long as there's consent then it's fine.
Artists who get signed to a label aren't signed to do something other than their own music - they already have tons of artists. When you sign to a record label, all that happens is you owe them a certain amount of albums, and they agree to promote it. Then there are other things you have to do, promotional stuff. Tours. Record labels aren't just groups of people who make make make money money money. The people who actually sign artists usually care very much about choosing talented artists - but it's a business, so the artist has to be marketable as well. The artist also has to show initiative. Do you think Marilyn Manson is whoring himself out to corporations for money? No. He has a killer act.
To address your other stuff, I wasn't talking about the past. Yes, before the internet, record labels had a monopoly on popular music. But comparing that to wage-slave labor is ridiculous. Anyway, today you can promote music yourself and make money with sites like Bandcamp.
I have things to do so I'll talk more later. I've probably not completed my point but I've had the above paragraphs sitting here for the longest time, so I'm just gonna hit submit and ~~masturbate~~ be productive.
If you don't have a mediafire account, i suggest you at least sign up to upload this. Mediafire is the preferred link for bloggers to post, and if you want to use the internet for exposure (which i mean, is really the only way, the underground exists solely there anyways) use that. If you don't want to mess with that you can also set up a Bandcamp page and have a page set up completely for your band with a download option (you just make the price optional and people can choose $0 and dl it for free. I recommend doing both. Once you grab a little bit of blogger attention you might have enough demand for some tapes which are easy enough to make.
I'll be very straight forward though, if you try make people pay for this everyone will ignore it. That's just the nature of the beast these days but until you can offer physical copies (which are the only things worth paying for anyways) don't try to set a price. Your project will flounder and not get the exposure it probably can.
ok, just checked it out on the group's site, you can't buy stuff on itunes, they aren't selling there yet, you can get it on bandcamp tho. I've got their ep in CD form, so this is actually the first i've heard of it. link
Aaron's absolutely amazing. I currently have about 269 tracks of his in my collection and I'm absolutely loving every second of them. Also, through some sheer coincidence, my first ever EP managed to pass his new album in popularity on Bandcamp (buy his album and get me off there please.)
Yes! I made a note on my phone to check out the song when I got back home. Playing it on soundcloud now.
EDIT: The fact that you guys have Tower of Heaven in your recommendations makes me very happy.
What I don't understand is you have been able to get similar results simply by browsing through charts, which offer far more diversity. They are artist generated so it could be anything, like "reddit" for example. The only feature that seems worthwhile in Discover is filtering by merchandise.
There's also stuff like Bandcamp...it's pretty cool. I came across a band there the other day that I kinda liked, and was shocked to see that I could actually just download their tracks for free. Pretty awesome...then £6 for a t-shirt AND the songs, in any format? Hell yes.
I think there are probably other similar sorts of things going on, as well. I like this model very much indeed, though.
You're like the person that complains about the bitterness of the low hanging fruit on the tree when there is much more sweet fruit near the top of the tree.
Take effort, find music.
http://grooveshark.com/#!/ (go to explore => stations => favorite genre)
I think that ties in with what other people have said about the level of effort involved. In your example, the lawyer or investment advisor has personally given you a few hours of their time, often going to considerable trouble on your behalf. You would be stealing that time and effort--intangible things can still be finite resources.
On the other hand, all it takes to copy a movie is Ctrl+C, and there is no limit to the number of copies that can be made. Meanwhile, the people who invested years of their lives in the movie are still making a return on that investment. Movies and songs are indeed a larger undertaking, but they also keep making money over a much longer period than a one-off appointment. In many cases, copyright infringement eventually leads to increased sales due to more widespread awareness of a product, and this could be improved if the owners took part in this process themselves: while it may seem counterintuitive, many musicians on Bandcamp make money primarily by streaming tracks for free. I think that creators of TV shows could, for example, put a few sample episodes online and offer a download link to the full season for a fee; many, many people who currently pirate would be willing to pay for this, especially if it's a high quality file.
Mediafire is pretty good for stuff like that I believe.
No problem, I just really enjoyed it :)
You should do a couple versions (if you don't mind, and if it's not difficult) for people who prefer different formats, like FLAC, MP3-320kbps, etc. Or even put it on iTunes/somewhere else we can buy it and support :D
(I think BandCamp may work well, and I'm pretty sure you can set up a 'pay what you want' if you feel like you want to share your music for free or have people pay what they want.)
Bandcamp's FAQ says you can re-download an album you bought using the link they give you in the receipt. Although I tried it with an album I bought and got an expired message back, which apparently means I'd have to email Bandcamp if I wanted to re-download it.
I bought a little 2-song album on iTunes years ago. Except, when I formatted that computer and sold it I lost access to those songs because I didn't deauthorize something on that install. I've never even considered buying music there again.
Yet, I've bought every album from artists I enjoy that is listed on Bandcamp. When the content is offered in the format I prefer for a reasonable price, yes I buy it.
>Also, the classical community doesn't really use either of those sites ever.
While not all traditional, there is actually some pretty interesting stuff on bandcamp that might fall under the "classical" umbrella.
edit: I just wish bandcamp would make it easier to sort by price when searching.
For people rocking out with their iPod-bundled headphones on their laptops with their integrated sound cards, I suppose they could pirate and not be affected.
BUT I NEED QUALITY
24bit/96khz FLACS in Foobar running through a dedicated AMP and DAC to reference-class Sennheisers GIVES ME POWER
*And I wouldn't steal music anyway, nor would I tolerate the "it's not stealing" argument, but the quality is niiice.
There is something like that, which I support wholeheartedly. It's called Bandcamp. There are artists from all over the place, famous and not so famous, and so on. Most artists have a minimum fee of what they charge for an album/song download, but some just have a "Donate what you think this album is worth" sort of deal.
You'll have to excuse me when I tell you that article is full-blown bullshit. Kanye west and Jay-Z the only guys producing 'real hip hop' in todays age? Kanye west is far from what i would call real hip hop, and Jay-Z hasn't done a new track for himself since what? 2004? Look through this, check it out, and tell me if you really think hip hop is dead
http://bandcamp.com/tag/hip-hop
I personally prefer bandcamp.com and soundcloud as alternatives to myspace. I think it#'ll take a lot for myspace to better them for functionality and atmosphere.
At Bandcamp.com One is able to purchase music for a reasonable price. There are plenty of opportunities to download free music. When it comes to downloading some albums, you can even name your own price. I have downloaded a name-your-own-price album and, since I chose to pay 0$, I was able to download it for free.
Edit: It is also a wonderful way to explore many different and obscure artists.
Why does it matter where it's posted? Soundcloud doesn't allow for album downloads all at once, which makes Bandcamp better for an EP release. Also, there is an Electronic music section that seems quite populated, at the following link:
aside from everything mentioned, - find a music blog or two that suits your tastes on tumblr or elsewhere; those that dig up some sexy oldies are especially cool - many promising artists will have a page on Bandcamp, where you can often download their music either for free or dirt-cheap at a price you desire
I want to be able to buy digital music, download a file with no drm on it, in FLAC format. I don't want to buy individual songs, I want entire albums (with all the album art, etc). And I want to be able to completely pre-listen to the entire thing, at least once, before I buy. And, I don't want to download it through their bullshit software. I want to browse to a web page, download a zip file, and be done with it. Companies are not letting me do this; they wont' provide it in FLAC because of bandwidth. They won't provide it without DRM because they're paranoid I will give it to others. They won't provide me albums together because it's an uncommon market request. And they won't let me pre-listen because they're afraid I won't give them money. And they insist on making me use their bullshit software because Joe Q Public, Average Computer User doesn't understand how the internet works.
I would pay money for a service like that. But, none exist, so fuck that I'm going to what.cd
PREEMPTIVE EDIT: I'm aware that torrents are not http downloads, and that violates my last point. But, whatever, they satisfy every other point, and short of tiny setups like http://magnatune.com and http://bandcamp.com, this doesn't exist anywhere
Release it for free and post the link on every website you can think of.
When you release the digital copy for free more people are willing to try it, carry it around, let it soak in, and recommend it to other people. If your music is good it will work for itself.
Bandcamp.com has a "Name Your Own Price" option where people can download it for free or more if you're worried about money. You'd be surprised how many people will pay a little bit to save their conscious and support underground artists.
If I told you to make a complete clone of bandcamp.com (including backend functionality that you would think a site admin would need):
Let it be known that the site will differ a lot from bandcamp, but it's a good example of the technical skills required.
If I told you to make a complete clone of bandcamp.com (including backend functionality that you would think a site admin would need):
Let it be known that the site will differ a lot from bandcamp, but it's a good example of the technical skills required.
This is great! Just one kinda OT question: Have you decided on whether to use a Creative Commons license (like I asked about here)? I hope so. Remember that you can still sell it. CC does not mean free.
Also: Remember that not everyone can or wants to use iTunes. Sell it there, but please also sell it at least one other place. I'm a fan of Bandcamp (They have support for higher quality formats (Ogg, FLAC, etc.), Creative Commons, pay what you want (above a minimum amount), etc.)
Don't give up on supporting him.
Here is one way to get a foothold making music: http://bandcamp.com/
I never have and never will give up on my dream of making video games for a living, and I'm happier for it.
edit: Your sister has a beautiful voice.