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I did. I said China, not Google.
https://www.huawei.com/en/privacy-policy
It has most of the same thing Google and Apple do regarding that they will store and process your information, with a GDPR clause about localized data processing and consent to cross borders.
Wait till they find out that EulerOS is now a certified Unix using systemd.
> It will be years, if not decades before China can develop its own chip ...
This couldn't be more wrong.
https://www.huawei.com/en/press-events/news/2019/8/huawei-ascend-910-most-powerful-ai-processor
>First things first: Huawei fixed the driver and published the safe version in early January, so if you're using a Huawei system and have either updated everything or removed the built-in applications entirely, you should be good to go.
Safe according to whom?
Huawei issued a statement saying they were not responsible for these vulnerabilities. The issues were introduced by a downstream OEM application developer. The developer has not been named.
Huawei is basically run by the Chinese government, and there have been concerns among the government/intelligence agencies/military (and not just the US) that Huawei is spying or setting themselves up to spy on users. So under this administration they were banned from being used in basically every government entity in the US. And then when the trade war hit there was an all out ban. It's a long story.
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/news-opinions/fighting-back-china-won-the-trade-war
Also for anyone that thinks Huawei isnt a CCP puppet, read that article on the official Huawei site, and they source their information from a Russian site.. its pretty clear they are not an independent company.
> Paper zu lesen, das zum Artikel geführt hat. Dann wird ziemlich offensichtlich, dass es weder Huawei noch HiSilicon ist, die diesen Klopper zu verantworten haben.
In dem Paper steht dazu nichts. Eher im Gegenteil.
> The hardcoded password is a deliberate backdoor. Chinese companies such as Huawei are known for backdooring their products (and even trying to explain how backdoors are good), so it is not a surprise their HiSilicon video encoders are backdoored as well.
Ansonsten gibts halt nur das Statement von Huawei in dem sie sagen es sei nicht ihre Schuld
The NCCoE initiated this project in collaboration with industry participants to show how the components of 5G architectures can securely mitigate cybersecurity risks and meet industry sectors’ compliance requirements.
The other companies are AT&T, T-Mobile, Intel, Cisco, Dell, CableLabs, AMI, Keysight Technologies, MiTAC, Red Hat, and PaloAlto Networks.
No Ericsson, Huawei, Samsung or ZTE which is good. Huawei did just open a huge cyber security center in China though.
Agreed on the last bit, since OP’s interest is in hardware they should definitely look into that. All the new SoCs have a separate “AI Chip” since a custom chip can be multitudes faster than using the conventional CPU (or GPU for that matter)
For example here’s a Huawei chip specifically for AI
That would depend on the structure of the business. You could still have cooperative ownership and a limited liability model that corporations have. The only difference is that the workers are the only shareholders in the company. This is how Huawei works for example.
They aren't spreading lies.
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/does-huawei-have-ties-to-the-cpc
Huawei has been officially caught talking from both sides of their mouths and knowing how dishonest the Chinese government has become especially with the Coronavirus there is reason to believe that Huawei does indeed have deeper ties to the CPC than what they are saying.
There was even an interview with one of their officials when a journalist visited their campus where they were coy in their connection to the CPC.
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei
Huawei is owned by it's ~100k employees. Founder Ren Zhengfei is only a 1% owner.
Contrast to Amazon: owned by hedge funds. Jeff Bezos owns 10% of Amazon.
They're terrified of Huawei not only for their tech and commercial success but because it is proof that worker owned enterprises are highly competitive. It is proof that you don't need billionaires to run a company. But if billionaires don't run companies what do they do...?
Fun fact: Huawei is actually a worker cooperative.
> Huawei is an independent, privately-held company. We are not owned or controlled by, nor affiliated with the government, or any other 3rd party corporation.
> In fact, Huawei is owned by our employees through an Employee Stock Ownership Program (ESOP) that has been in place since the beginning. No one can own a share without working at Huawei, and as of 2018 there were 96,768 shareholding employees. Our founder, Ren Zhengfei, owns a 1.14% stake in the company.
> Shares confer voting rights. Shareholding employees elect members to form a Representatives' Commission, getting one vote for each share held. Then the Commission elects the company’s Board of Directors and Supervisory Board. At the last election in January 2019, 86,514 shareholding employees voted to elect 115 representatives at 416 polling stations around the world.
> Employee-ownership is instrumental to our rapid growth. Over the years, it has offered an incentive to our loyal employees and helped us attract talented people. Unlike many publicly-owned companies, Huawei’s decisions are not based on the need for quarterly returns and annual dividends.
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei
Many private companies in China are actually owned and operated by their workers, Huawei is probably the most well known example of this. No wonder capitalist America is going hurr durr evil commie company owned by evil commies.
I was doing some digging on my end, seems you have to get in touch with the russian huawei representatives to be invited (some kind of russian regulations). Try here https://www.huawei.com/en/contact-us and ask about how to get registered in the Moscow Region.
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Hope it helps.
Dude, this was your origin claim
>Well yes, there is no evidence. Many security researchers have investigated Huawei devices, and so far not one has found any evidence they transit data illicitly. China can't request data Huawei doesn't have in the first place. >China can't request data Huawei doesn't have in the first place.
To which I replied with:
>Data such as personal information?
With you replying:
>Yes.
The thing is, China can request for personal information. Certain Huawei services and products may even require personal information put in. Whether information is given is on the person, but not everyone is as literature as you claim to be
https://www.huawei.com/en/privacy-policy
>Before using Huawei’s products or services, you may need to provide personal data
> level 4yungplantdad · 20 min. agoif you say soYou can also just look at their list of products and realize that’s not a thing.
Oh, my bad
https://www.huawei.com/en/news/2017/11/New-5G-oriented-Base-Station
Huawei is not privately owned, it is privately held (ie not publicly traded).
It is a cooperative owned by the employees of Huawei, as even US admits and as published in a peer reviewed publication.
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei
Any source? Tried Googling. Loads of video re-posts all quoting more or less the same thing, but all skimpy on details (which hospital, which surgeon, significance/purpose, etc.) And they seem to be from a year ago.
Incidentally, I found a page by Huawei touting the world's first remote operation conducted in China on animals. Not sure when that was. [Edit: there's a Youtube video dated 11/01/19 describing this, so it would've been on or before this date]
Either way, more interested in the provenance of the banana vid, if possible
Huawei has NOT acknowledged the issue so far as said above.
https://www.huawei.com/en/psirt/security-notices/huawei-sn-20210513-01-fragattacks-en
It just says: "Huawei has launched an immediate investigation. The investigation is still ongoing."
So Huawei is same as garbage, no updates so far for products.
Again, you could read volumes of work written on the subject to understand the reasoing. The short version is that there's a feedback loop between individuals and their environment. People's behavior is shaped by the system they live under, and their behavior in turn shapes the system. The state withers away as people learn to move away from capitalist mindset by living in a socialist system.
China is doing quite a bit beyond social democratic economic policy. As I've already pointed out, around half the economy is publicly owned and this includes all the essential economy. Meanwhile, even many private businesses, like Huawei, are cooperatively owned.
People also have far more say about how their government works, there's much higher participation, and much higher satisfaction with the working of the government than in any capitalist state that I'm aware of.
> fully Unix certified, which Linux isn’t.
Incorrect. There are at least two Linux distributions that were certified at least at one point:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspur_K-UX
- https://www.huawei.com/en/news/2016/9/huawei-kunlun-euleros-unix-certification
The certification is just a marketing strategy, it's not a measure of usability.
It is surprisingly quiet in Netherlands on this topic.
Which 5G supplier is KPN using today? Saw this on the Huawei website..
https://www.huawei.com/en/news/2019/4/dutch-telecom-provider-kpn-partners-huawei
>However that's shitty of KPN to compromise the privacy of its users and only carry out a risk assessment after deciding to use a Huawei technology. Used their services before and I'll avoid them from now.
First time I actually agree with you! :)
Same same for me.
Saw this, not sure if (still) true..
https://www.huawei.com/en/news/2019/4/dutch-telecom-provider-kpn-partners-huawei
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>[The Hague, the Netherlands, April 26th, 2019] Leading Dutch telecom provider KPN has signed a preliminary agreement with Huawei to start preparations for the construction of KPN’s new Mobile Radio Access Network in the Netherlands.
In this 2019 article, Huawei claims that they signed a deal with KPN to provide their 5G network.
Is this indeed the case? Is there any site where it is listed which telecom providers are using technology from which companies?
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https://www.huawei.com/en/news/2019/4/dutch-telecom-provider-kpn-partners-huawei
Yes they have absolute control over those companies if they really needed to. They pushed alibaba back with the monopoly probe thing and tencent is monitored and controlled by them as well. Huawei is a big worker coop so yeah.https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei
Here is a source from Huawei, I hope you find it trustworthy as a 5G vendor. It states that 5G consumes less energy per bit, but overall consumption of energy is far higher since 5G allows higher flow of data.
China is not what western corporate elites want! If they did, covid would not have originated from China! Man you guys have a fucking bad memory and are super shitty at connecting the dots!
In fact, Chinese communism is exactly what the western corporate elites DO NOT want!
Why the fuck would Bill Gates want to compete with a fucking state run corporation when the state can make up the laws and drive him out of business in less than 1 year?
Side note, HuaWei is employee owned, this is also a Marxist/communist belief.
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei
Yes. Britishvolt wants to develop battery technology. They are an example of the high tech upmarket manufacturing that's still viable in the UK. The 5000 new jobs will all be for skilled workers. You'll find a few of them here.
The common factor here is that these offer practically no opportunities for unskilled workers.
Honor has been sold to another company:
”Huawei's consumer business has been under tremendous pressure as of late. This has been due to a persistent unavailability of technical elements needed for our mobile phone business. Huawei Investment & Holding Co., Ltd. has thus decided to sell all of its Honor business assets to Shenzhen Zhixin New Information Technology Co., Ltd. This sale will help Honor's channel sellers and suppliers make it through this difficult time.”
Source: https://www.huawei.com/en/news/2020/11/huawei-honor-statement
You really think you can send higher frequencies with out increasing power... Its so stupid...
The higher frequencies the higher power.
Its so stupid.
5G Power: Creating a green grid that slashes costs, emissions & energy use - Huawei
5g runs at 11000w
4g runs at 7000w
3g runs at 5000w
Dude....
5g runs at 11.000 watts.
4g runs at 6000 watts (rounded up/down to nearest 1000)
5G Power: Creating a green grid that slashes costs, emissions & energy use - Huawei Middle of the page.
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei
This describes it pretty well, imo. Zhengfei’s wikipedia page also discusses how he owns less than 2% of the company.
Each year, the CPC forces wages in the private sector to raise by 16%, so workplace democracy is very strong in china as a result of the powerful unions, which meet frequently. https://www.workers.org/2015/07/21/china-rising-wages-and-worker-militancy/#.WXOlQtPytsM
China is not conventionally capitalist.
Workers own the means of production directly or via state apparatus.
For example, Huawei is wholly owned by workers.
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei
They kinda didn't have a choice.
After the huge Apple-Qualcomm lawsuit debacle, Apple realized that Intel wouldn't be ready with a 5G modem until maybe the iPhone 14S. So, boxed into a corner, Apple reached into their sofas, found $4.5 billion in change lying around between the cushions, and gave that to Qualcomm.
Within 24 hours of that being announced, Intel announced they'd stop making cell modems.
So yeah... if you're making any cell phone and you want a 5G modem, your choices are Qualcomm, or some other Chinese fabricator that the US has banned any companies here from doing business with anyway.
Majority of the industry is state owned and so are the banks. Meanwhile, Huawei is run as a cooperative. Since this clearly isn't making companies flee China or people from getting rich, why wouldn't we want to adapt a similar model?
I Googled "5G use cases" and hit this which is pretty good at describing better use cases (like I say, the existing examples are poor references because they reflect existing connectivity).
Completely with you that some of this is a bit "meh", while some is pretty cool actually. I think the proponents of the technology get so carried away trying to create compelling (and long) lists of benefits they don't realise they're undermining their own pitch by filling it with fluff.
I must have had a 1 free article for the month or whatever their site allows. The article details infrastructure projects, and massive bank loans in Africa. It says they've built about 70% of Africa's 4G network, which is massive.
Article says early on "According to Huawei’s 2018 annual report, the largest percentage (24.3 percent) of revenue outside China came from Europe, the Middle East and Africa, roughly $25.6 billion."
Maybe I read the report wrong, but it seems like more according to the report? However, 50%+ of the annual income is reported to be in China. (if you flip the 2018 to 2019 in the url you'll get the next year's annual report... if you want to go to Huawei's website)
It's nominally not, but could be in practice. Huawei itself denies it. https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei
I'll admit it's my mistake though, but my overarching point still stands. China has many private companies who trade on the stock market and such. The government just takes an interest in strategically important sectors.
Literally the whole issue with Huawei is the fact that they're a Chinese Nationalized brand that is trying to spread it's 5G networks around the globe, including Canada and the US.
Interesante que mencionen a una sola empresa privada, Atos (multinacional francesa), pero en cambio no a su posiblemente principal socio tecnológico, si no en servicios (Atos sería este) en infraestructura, Huawei:
Sus razones tendrán.
I don’t know if it’ll help GPs specifically but tech companies like Ericsson and Huawei have been putting AI/5G technology to use in this pandemic.
https://www.ericsson.com/en/blog/2020/4/ai-and-data-science-to-fight-coronavirus
https://www.huawei.com/en/press-events/news/2020/4/fighting-covid-19-with-technology
It isn't? Huwaie has pulled it off, Telefónica and Ericsson demo'ed it,
We're willing to accept that people can operate cars, despite them falling asleep, having heart attacks, being ancient and having poor reflexes, the convenience outweighs a few deaths here and there. Similar cost-benefit analyses will be done for driving using 5G, the latency is good enough to make it possible. A few more road deaths, so what, when it's a trillion-dollar industry.
Just imagine how much money could be saved by driving being a remote job where only the last bits off motorways is something where a person needs to take over as the AI can't handle it. Never rule it out, especially when there is a lot of money at stake.
Did a small bit of "research" and found these:
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3372669
Huawei themselves (first link) say they're not state-owned. The other two agree that it's not state- owned, but also, that its true or real ownership structure is opaque.
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/question-answer/who-owns-huawei
> In fact, Huawei is owned by our employees through an Employee Stock Ownership Program (ESOP) that has been in place since the beginning. No one can own a share without working at Huawei, and as of 2018 there were 96,768 shareholding employees. Our founder, Ren Zhengfei, owns a 1.14% stake in the company.
China is both commie and capitalist. Capcom gang.
Huawei denies this https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/voices-of-huawei/media-statement-regarding-wsj?utm_medium=sm&utm_source=corp_linkedin&utm_campaign=AlwaysON
Given everything my government has lied to me about, I’m inclined to believe Huawei until proven otherwise
I'd end public limited businesses existing, instead limited liability companies would be owned solely by the people actually involved in running the company. It would be similar to Huawei
Good question. Latest improvements show 13 km. https://www.huawei.com/en/press-events/news/2019/9/india-bharti-huawei-5g-microwave-mimo-joint-innovation. I am guessing VERY limited roll out and testing until the range limitation is improved more and more.
No one is saying China has a a full universal sufferage style democracy (which America doesn't even have) but nevertheless the Chinese state is democratic. China has elections on the local level just like the America, and when consensus is reached through consultation and surveys vs a winner takes all showboat elections. Ramin Mazaheri has a good explaination of this, essentially China's system has more people are involved and less people being ignored.
But even if the Chinese state is not democratic Chinese companies are very democractic compared to their American counterparts. Workers electing corporate boards is virtually unheard of in America, yet many Chinese company such as Huawei elect it's leaders have just that.
> Huawei is damm state owned company by china.
Not actually true, according to Huawei.
"Huawei is an independent, privately-held company. We are not owned or controlled by, nor affiliated with the government, or any other 3rd party corporation."
You're starting to contradict your own argument. China actually focus more on sub-6Ghz frequencies and not "high frequencies" in the case of US carriers:
https://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/public-policy/5g-spectrum
So, more base stations and better coverage per station (by your own words) definitely mean more coverage.
https://www.huawei.com/en/press-events/annual-report/2018
Ah, here we go. There's a pie chart showing their business by region. China does take a little more than 50%, and Europe (plus Middle East and Africa) comes next at 28%. So you are kind of right, pretty popular in Europe. Which country are you specifically mentioning?
这么偏激不好的。比如华为官网上的，华为任总接受CNN采访。如果墙外媒体只说中国坏话，任总是有多无聊去接受CNN采访？采访完了还要把说的什么详细整理下来放在官网上"Huawei Facts > Voices of Huawei"分区里。
https://www.huawei.com/en/facts/voices-of-huawei/ren-zhengfei-interview-with-cnn
PS：我稍微读了一下，他在第一段里说“I was a fan of the US when I was young. Today, I still believe the US is a great nation. Your advanced institutions, flexible innovation mechanisms, clearly-defined property rights, and respect and protection of individual rights have attracted the world's best talent to invest and innovate in the US.” 我看了都略有尴尬，这么吹美帝有点那个了。
I've done this type of photography for 7 years. My images have been used by Google for the keynote address of one of their IO conferences, they have been used by Huawei for an advertising campaign. One of my photos was picked as one of the top 15 images posted to Flickr in 2017. So yeah, I kind of do know what I'm talking about on this subject.
Wtf is with the comments in this thread..
It's not surprising to see Huawei expand.. as of June 2019 they're up 23.3% YOY despite the threats from US regarding trade war. With 5G rolling out it's hard to put a stop on this train.. it's also encouraging to see the nation rally behind the company and stand up against this US trade war bullshit.
international revenue makes up half of their revenue, and that was 2017
https://www.huawei.com/en/press-events/annual-report/2017
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they are now even more international, no sane CEO thinks that potentially losing 50%+ of your revenue is fine
HUAWEI has joined forces with Rainforest Connection(RFCx) to help save the Osa Peninsula Rainforest. Which is the most biodiverse place in the world, is constantly under attack. With the use of an ecosystem of technology, Huawei and Rainforest Connection protect the peninsula from poachers and illegal logging, while at the same time learning the complex nature of the spider monkey and how it can help bring the rainforest back to full strength.
Not exactly... You can find it on their website. No idea how true it is, but this is what they claim: https://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/corporate-governance
>However, isn't commies is propping up their National companies. As long as the National companies is doing well like Huawei
What are you saying? I dont understand. Almost exactly half of Huaweis revenue comes from outside of China anyways and it was even more so in the years prior.
>commies commies commies
Just say communist, government or CCP. You are sounding like a child.
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Again, Huawei makes more than just phones. Even if 45% of their revenue comes from consumer products, which it doesn't—39.3% of revenue came from consumer sales — that consumer revenue is split between phones, tablets, laptops, wearables, smart home products, accessories, services, etc.
This wasn't even tweeted by their mobile division. Their mobile division's Twitter is @huaweimobile. If @huaweimobile had tweeted this then it would be humourous, but this is a social media person, who has nothing to do with the consumer mobile division and may not even work directly for Huawei, deciding to use an iPhone.
Reports show that Huawei had a total revenue of 603.6 Billion Yuan and consumer provided 237.2 Billion Yuan (39%). That 39% is split between mobile phones, tablets, wearables, PCs, broadband devices and smart home device. I have not see a breakdown for what percentage of that 39% is attributed to phones.
We're talking about different companies — Huawei (002502.CN), which is primarily a smartphone manufacturer, does not appear to be included in any of the cleantech indices yet. Huawei is starting to manufacture and sell solar inverters in direct competition with SEDG and there are patent disputes over this.