If you're looking to give the game a try, take a look at the free core rules: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-IE/Warhammer-40000-Rules

Then download Battle Scribe to try out the data sheets for your models: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor

It may take a bit of time for the update to become available for everyone. Keep an eye on the store page: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor

An update is now out on Google Play that fixes the crashing in the Android app. Please note it might take a little while to become available for you, so keep an eye out for the update in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor

For such questions I recommend downloading Battlescribe. Play around with it a bit and you get the rules out very fast:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor&hl=en

I recommend downloading the battlescribe if you don't have the 40k ork codex and the aos app if you don't have the warscroll.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamesworkshop.ageofsigmar

Chaos Renegade Knights can benefit a ton from PL games though. The core model is only just over 300 points, but you can mount over 200 points of gun on it. Chaos Chosen can mount more points in special weapons than the troops cost. Fielding a whole squad with combi-meltas and power weapons is a PL abuse of the highest order.

I'm not encouraging PL exploit, just pointing out even within a single army it can affect different units. If you are using a lot of cultists and base troops you will be at a disadvantage vs any army that uses heavy customization.

If you need help counting your points try using BattleScribe. It's an easy and convenient way to build your army with exact point values. It can also print out some very nice reference sheets for your army to help save some page flipping.

This can get you started with some very basic lists, but it won't give you weapon stats or special rules.

Alternatively, you can use Battle Scribe to build a list that includes pretty much everything you would get from the index books (except art and lore). BattleScribe works great, but it has a lot of options and can be a little overwhelming to use at first.

I use a little of each. I use the army builder site to quickly whip up a list, but then I use battlescribe to refine it. BattleScribe can produce a printed reference sheet with all of your armies costs, stats, and special rules on one print out. Very handy stuff.

Give it a try, if you like the game then buy the 8th edition indexes. They aren't expensive and are customary to bring if you are playing at a store.

Can we just get someone from the UK to roll up and knock on this dude's door? 🤣

Jon Taylor

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ah. do you have the core rule book and the codex for the ynnari? You need those 2 to really make a list.

You may want to invest in a piece of software like - BattleScribe that will let you plug in values and do all the point calculations and validations checks for you.

battlescribe is a free 3rd party app (link is for Google play store) that let's you setup an army roster with the up to date (well up to date-ish, it's run by volunteers ) points. You need to have an idea of what your building in terms of the size of your army and what your models have. (start with a patrol, it'll let you know if there is something illegal in your list like 5 HQs and no troops) Best thing to do is search how to use battlescribe 40k. The 40k app is going to have a force builder but most people currently use battlescribe. Once you get the hang of it you can play with your army lists and make different ones as you please.

An update is now out on Google Play that fixes the crashing in the Android app. Please note it might take a little while to become available for you, so keep an eye out for the update in the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor

Please spread the word!

The 2.02.01 Android update was somehow corrupted, leading to crashes. Boo! I've re-uploaded it and all is well. Hooray! The fixed build is rolling out now. Check here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor

BattleScribe has updated data files for 8th edition.

It's also available for ~~iOS~~ "Fischer Price My First Phone" if that's what you're into.

> I'm really lost on how all the tiny details end up adding onto the army cost

Well, first things first this squad of FW (fire warriors) will have carbines equipped. Don't "use" those. For the meantime, when you use these particular first models just tell your opponent, "These are carbines, but I'm going to play them as pulse rifles."

Troop weapons for Tau don't really matter, so if you like the look of carbines, knock yourself out. If you however want to git gud and like the pulse rifle aesthetic go ahead and put your future squads of Fire Warriors (FW) as riflemen. As long as you point out these things to your opponents, in friendly games it should never matter. I've used an unpainted crisis suit as a "coldstar commander" before the other guy didn't bat an eye.

Points and equipment won't start really mattering until you move up to your crisis suits and other larger suits/vehicles. And those you'll want to magnetize those larger models so you can swap out gear/weapons on the fly and as the meta/editions change. Once again, in friendly games you can just say "These glued on plasma are actually fusion blasters, and there's 4 of them", but against jerks or people in tournaments you'll want WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) so your opponent and TO (tournament organizers) can tell at a glance exactly what your models are packing. Don't worry, this won't be for a while.

As far as wargear goes, there is no official list of what odd bits are what support systems so pick stuff you think looks neat if at all.

Anyways, once you get your models in the unit, their weapons, and support systems, you add up each of those values in the back of the codex for a total price.

You can also use Battlescribe app for free on your phone to build armies, and this does a lot of the adding and making sure your detachments (army style: lots of guys, lots of vehicles, lots of HQs [Headquarters/Leaders]) are legal.

Android | apple

And before you have to ask:

5+ = armor save, if you roll a 5 or 6 you don't take a wound

5++ = INVULNERABLE save, this is usually higher than your armor save, but it cannot be modified by armor penetration. It's cool thing to have, most elite units have one.

5+++ = FEEL NO PAIN (fnp) save. This is a super ability to shrug off damage you've failed to save. So once you fail your armor save you a model with this ability can see if they can ignore that wound they took.

GEQ = Guard equivalent models. This is for illustrating what your weapon can take down easily. Guard refers to Imperial Guard, or regular humans armed with flashlights, cardboard armor, and gusto.

MEQ = Marine Equivalent models. If your weapon is described as "good against MEQ" that means it can slay Space Marines and other models from other armies like SMs pretty easily.

TEQ = Terminator equivalent. These guys are Space marines in super armor with invuln saves and other cheap shit.

That's all I've learned in 1 year on this sub. Thank you.

This certainly could have gone smoother... Sorry if you've had problems. Do know that I am working hard to resolve things though!

The app is being frequently updated, so make sure you keep up to date. Much has been fixed and performance has improved. Of course, this will be ongoing. As of writing, the latest versions are:

Android: 2.00.13
iOS: 2.00.08*
Desktop: 2.00.05

[* Version 2.00.09 for iOS is currently going through Apple's review process and should become available soon (hopefully today/tomorrow). This fixes a lot of Dropbox issues, so keep an eye out for it.]

r/Salamanders40k is a Salamander specfic subreddit.

https://youtu.be/ac3p75UKTWQ here is a Adeptus Ridiculous (imo great potcast for lore) on the Salamanders

https://youtu.be/ZKur2G50bwE and here one on Vulcan himself.

https://youtube.com/channel/UC6Gco9PWxmJmJ5CqfbChuiQ this guy does a lot of videos on competetive tactics (Sally ones are a Bit older but general space marine stuff should also be helpfull, if you're into that

If you haven't already, I would recommend to get the Space Marines Codex. More Lore, more rules and description of units etc

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor this is a good App for listbuilding

You can also always make a custom chapter. Just think of your own scheme and lore. They can then use the rules of any chapter.

Whatever you do tho, I would highly recommend something you like the lore and the look of. If you don't it will be hard to sit through the painting process, which should be a fun thing, not a slog. Also jumping a gun is very 40k, so you got the spirit ;)

I was in the exact same position about a year ago and I don't regret my sallys. So

INTO THE FIRES OF BATTLE, BROTHER, UNTO THE ANVILL OF WAAAAAAAR!

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Yes, Battle Scribe is your friend; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor

Battlescribe (android) is my go to. Works for many different games.

The app is being frequently updated, so make sure you keep up to date. Much has been fixed and performance has improved. Of course, this will be ongoing. As of writing, the latest versions are:

Android: 2.00.13
iOS: 2.00.08*
Desktop: 2.00.05

[* Version 2.00.09 for iOS is currently going through Apple's review process and should become available soon (hopefully today/tomorrow). This fixes a lot of Dropbox issues, so keep an eye out for it.]

Make sure you keep your data up to date too. See this FAQ for details: https://battlescribe.net?faq=dataProblem

If you are having trouble with crashing or error messages, please raise and issue on UserVoice and make sure you tell me:

What version of the app you are using
What device you are using
What version of iOS/Android/Windows/macOS you are using
What game/army you are having a problem with
What exact steps I need to go through to make the problem happen
If you see an error message, what exactly does it say?

Apologies for the delayed response. As you might imagine my focus has been on getting fixes/updates out rapidly to address any issues.

I'll try to address everything below, but first here's a link to the news page where I posted about BattleScribe 2.0, how we got here, what's changed and full release notes: https://battlescribe.net?tab=news

Remember that BattleScribe 2.0 can still be used for free if you ever need it :)

1) The app is being frequently updated, so make sure you keep up to date. Much has been fixed and performance has improved. Of course, this will be ongoing. As of writing, the latest versions are:

Android: 2.00.13
iOS: 2.00.09
Desktop: 2.00.05

2) The data authors have been hard at work, and the data is being rapidly updated. Again, make sure you keep your data up to date for the latest fixes. If you find any data problems, make sure you inform the data author so they know about it.

See this FAQ for details: https://battlescribe.net?faq=dataProblem

3) I have written up a series of FAQs regarding BattleScribe 2.0 which should address any questions or concerns:

4) BattleScribe 1.15.x will not be taken away! You are free to continue using it if you wish. However, you need to bear in mind that 2.0 format data is not compatible with BattleScribe 1.15.x so you will need to be careful here.

Remember that I do not create/maintain the data - it is all created by the community. It is up to the data authors whether or not they want to create their data in BattleScribe 2.0 format or support 1.15.x. Many of them have moved to 2.0, and some have archived their 1.15.x data and made it available on their GitHub page.

You can edit/maintain your own data using the desktop version of BattleScribe 1.15.x if you need to. The data site itself is open source, so if you want to host a version with 1.15.x data, feel free! You can find it here: https://github.com/BSData/bsdata

See this FAQ for more: https://battlescribe.net?faq=battleScribe1

5) If you are having trouble with crashing or error messages, please raise and issue on UserVoice and make sure you tell me:

What version of the app you are using
What device you are using
What version of iOS/Android/Windows/macOS you are using
What game/army you are having a problem with
What exact steps I need to go through to make the problem happen
If you see an error message, what exactly does it say?

Edit: iOS version 2.00.09 released

Apologies for the delayed response. As you might imagine my focus has been on getting fixes/updates out rapidly to address any issues.

I'll try to address everything below, but first here's a link to the news page where I posted about BattleScribe 2.0, how we got here, what's changed and full release notes: https://battlescribe.net?tab=news

1) The app is being frequently updated, so make sure you keep up to date. Much has been fixed and performance has improved. Of course, this will be ongoing. As of writing, the latest versions are:

Android: 2.00.13
iOS: 2.00.09
Desktop: 2.00.05

2) The data authors have been hard at work, and the data is being rapidly updated. Again, make sure you keep your data up to date for the latest fixes. If you find any data problems, make sure you inform the data author so they know about it.

See this FAQ for details: https://battlescribe.net?faq=dataProblem

3) I have written up a series of FAQs regarding BattleScribe 2.0 which should address any questions or concerns:

4) BattleScribe 1.15.x will not be taken away! You are free to continue using it if you wish. However, you need to bear in mind that 2.0 format data is not compatible with BattleScribe 1.15.x so you will need to be careful here.

Remember that I do not create/maintain the data - it is all created by the community. It is up to the data authors whether or not they want to create their data in BattleScribe 2.0 format or support 1.15.x. Many of them have moved to 2.0, and some have archived their 1.15.x data and made it available on their GitHub page.

You can edit/maintain your own data using the desktop version of BattleScribe 1.15.x if you need to. The data site itself is open source, so if you want to host a version with 1.15.x data, feel free! You can find it here: https://github.com/BSData/bsdata

See this FAQ for more: https://battlescribe.net?faq=battleScribe1

5) If you are having trouble with crashing or error messages, please raise and issue on UserVoice and make sure you tell me:

What version of the app you are using
What device you are using
What version of iOS/Android/Windows/macOS you are using
What game/army you are having a problem with
What exact steps I need to go through to make the problem happen
If you see an error message, what exactly does it say?

Edit: iOS version 2.00.09 released

BattleScribe 2.0 had a bit of a rocky start, but I think we're doing OK now. There's been a lot of fixes and performance improvements, so make sure you're up to date with the app.

Refresh your data regularly too. The data guys have been updating rapidly.

Release notes

Current versions

Android: 2.00.12
iOS: 2.00.07
Desktop: 2.00.05

Obligatory list of FAQs

Hope that helps :)

BattleScribe 2.0 had a bit of a rocky start, but I think we're doing OK now. There's been a lot of fixes and performance improvements, so make sure you're up to date with the app.

Refresh your data regularly too. The data guys have been updating rapidly.

Release notes

Current versions

Android: 2.00.12
iOS: 2.00.07
Desktop: 2.00.05

Obligatory list of FAQs

Hope that helps :)

BattleScribe 2.0 had a bit of a rocky start, but I think we're doing OK now. There's been a lot of fixes and performance improvements, so make sure you're up to date with the app.

Refresh your data regularly too. The data guys have been updating rapidly.

Release notes

Current versions

Android: 2.00.12
iOS: 2.00.07
Desktop: 2.00.05

Obligatory list of FAQs

Hope that helps :)

Here is battle scribe, I won't link the other ones so they aren't found by the wrong people but you can find them with a bit of digging

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor

Use: BattleScribe is a fast and powerful army list builder for tabletop wargamers. It's available on iOS, Android, Kindle Fire and Windows/Mac/Linux computers.

Website: https://battlescribe.net

++ Download BattleScribe ++

iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/app/id1119012577

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor

Kindle Fire: https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/dl/android?p=net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor

Windows/Mac/Linux: https://battlescribe.net

And have a look. Best app for Warhammer overall.