Yes, depending on the hardware being used. Apple TV needs to be version 3 with up to date software. MBP needs to be 2012 or later with Yosemite, iPad needs to be 2012 or later with iOS 8 or newer.
See the peer-to-peer section on this page: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
I'm just going by Apple's support doc, which says:
> Use peer-to-peer AirPlay
>
>With peer-to-peer AirPlay, your iOS device and Apple TV don't have to be on the same Wi-Fi network. To use peer-to-peer AirPlay, you need one of these devices with iOS 8 or later:
[snip]
>Make sure that both devices have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth turned on. If you want to stream iTunes Store content, you also need an Internet connection.
Sure, they probably use Bluetooth to negotiate the WiFi connection, but enough people have trouble getting peer-to-peer working, it's worth sticking to the docs.
As far as 802.11ac, agreed, penetration can be an issue in general, but presumably OP's MacBook is in the same room as his Apple TV, so that's not likely concern here.
How to use AirPlay mirroring...
For iOS:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
For Mac:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201343
The Mac article has the peer to peer requirements near the bottom.
The short answer for Airplay is no.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
Your iPad iOS version does not support Airplay, and I don't know if the hardware would either. That depends on the model.
Airplay will let you stream content to an AppleTv or Airplay supported speaker(audio only) from an iPod, iPhone, iPad, or Mac. It will not let you stream from a mobile platform to another mobile platform.
I do not know about any 3rd party apps/software that does this.
fingers crossed someone can answer the 2nd part of your question.
I am new to Mac, and up until I tried last week, I figured you would be able to mirror your iPhone display on a Mac using AirPlay like you can with Apple TV.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
Do you know if there is a technical reason that AirPlay can only mirror devices to Apple TV?
It might block it within the app, but you can share your full screen, at least with an Android. I streamed an Instagram concert to my TV this way. I couldn't turn my screen off, but I just kept my phone plugged in.
If you have an iPhone, you can mirror your screen. Scroll down until you find "Mirror your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch." If you have Android, this should work. I would suspect your TV could change these options though.
> t has internal storage so it can store apps that it uses to stream content, and to buffer streaming content. That's it.
thats not correct. have you ever heard of the gaming apps for apple tv? do you think anyone needs 32 gb, or even 64gb for streaming apps? 16gb would be just fine.
>Your argument is like saying the PS4 has Bluetooth so why can't I use it as a Bluetooth speaker to send music from my phone. It has all the hardware, so why not?
now lets flip that anology right back around on you. The apple TV device, wouldn't it be absolutely crazy if i could airplay music to my apple tv? its surely just designed to stream video, plays some games, and use its native streaming apps. Oh wait, i forgot air play! Yes, if the PS4 had this feature it wouldn't be crazy, it would be apple TV
and you can wirelessly play music from your xbox
still think its crazy?
From https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
Use peer-to-peer AirPlay
With peer-to-peer AirPlay, your iOS device and Apple TV don't have to be on the same Wi-Fi network.
To use peer-to-peer AirPlay, you need one of these devices with iOS 8 or later:
iPhone 5 or later iPad mini or iPad (4th generation or later) iPod touch (5th generation or later)
You can stream content to your Apple TV (3rd generation rev A, model A1469 or later) with software version 7.0 or later. Find out which Apple TV model you have.
Make sure that both devices have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth turned on.
If you want to stream iTunes Store content, you also need an Internet connection.
That is what I originally thought. But then Apple Support says any iPad and any iPhone 4 and later.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
Edit: Not sure why I'm getting downvoted, but if you can tell me what I'm missing, I'd be more than grateful
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
> If video automatically streams to an AirPlay device Your device might automatically stream video to the Apple TV or AirPlay 2-compatible smart TV that you frequently use.
Seems like an iOS feature.
That article is junk, AirPlay 2 is a wifi based streaming protocol
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
“Connect your device to the same Wi-Fi network as your Apple TV or AirPlay 2-compatible smart TV.”
That’s not airplay 2. That’s just airplay 1 where the sending device does all the work to make sure everything stays in sync, similar to how iTunes used to do this. Airplay 2 has not been reverse-engineered yet and only eligible iOS and macOS devices can use it. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
Airplay video uses WiFi or ethernet. Using your phone WiFi for the phone is needed the target device can be on ethernet.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
Airplay Audio can use Bluetooth.
For scenario 1, I found this article with regards to using your AppleTV as a separate monitor, this would allow you to use the 'local player window' in campaign mode and move that window to the Apple TV as requested. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289#mirrormac
No you are correct, Airplay is similar to Chromecast, Mirroring is a different feature. You can do Airplay or have the streaming app installed on the device.
The Live Stream is through the App ( so can’t just pull up on desktop and view through the Gimme website), but you can cast from the app to TV via Airplay or Chrome Cast. (and laptop too if supported).
Here’s the link to the FAQ page - https://gimmeradio.com/#/livestream
It has links on how to cast using both
Apple users can cast via AirPlay on IOS & Mac - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
PC & Android via Chromecast with the Chrome browser - https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/6006232?hl=en
Hope this helps you man.
> The issues that made me move away from them was on “my machines” the stability of the various software constantly had issues like requiring restarting the application, or even the machine. > > Some the connections mid stream were randomly flakey and crashed, it worked...but when you start a video and someone else is there, it didn’t work to fumble around resetting and restarting the shared video VS simply using a more stable source.
Ah, if you were having those kinds of issues, I can understand wanting to see if Airplay was better.
I reread your post again and noticed something. Are you using the Airplay option inside the TV app to send the video to the Roku? Instead of that, try using the iOS Screen Mirroring feature instead. This will have your iOS device record and stream your entire screen to the Roku instead. Now you can try playing the video on the iPad and have it mirrored to the Roku. This should get rid of any possible video compatibility issues, though it will drain battery faster on the iOS device because it has to stay awake and do more work.
So without an additional piece of software, you can't screen mirror an iPhone to an iPad. You can only mirror devices to AppleTV or AirPlay 2 compatible device.
Seems that apple only allows you to airplay to one other monitor, that's that.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289#mac
I'd write to their feedback - the more people that write in with a suggestion, the more likely we are to see it
Try at iOS level Make sure your ios and appleTV are on the same wifi open control center open screen mirroring select the apple tv
There an example of this on https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289 scroll down to mirroring
You gotta choose, are you going to Mirror your display using AirPlay or are you going to present a video
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289#iOS
Theoretically if all is built within your presentation, simply mirroring will do the trick if I am understanding properly
In my experience, casting a video over AirPlay will blank out the device screen while playing, and ends the video when you change the app loaded
I don't have a Pro to know if there are adjustments or other customizations, just going off of most iOS devices and Apple's site - hoping someone can correct me if I miss anything!
> AirPlay 2 devices can pull the content from the cloud themselves. HomePods and Apple TV 4th gen/4K support this mode
Not saying you're wrong, but a quick glimpse at apple.com/airplay and this article - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289- makes no mention of pulling video from the cloud.
Piggybacking my own comment:
If you're savvy enough, you might be able to get away with replacing your home internet and TV with an unlimited data plan from T-Mobile $70, Sprint $60, MetroPCS $60, Cricket $60, or some other provider. From your cellular device, you'd Miracast or AirPlay to a TV with whatever TV/video streaming services you want (including TV such as Sling and Vue) and use wired/wireless tethering to your computer if supported- as in the case of T-Mobile at least.
This is something of a workaround but it can save some people a lot of money or free you from land-based ISPs if you're really sick of Cox/ATT. It's got caveats but it's a workable solution for some.
You need an airplay receiver. The apple TV does that as does the airport express. For info straight from apple, refer to this link
If you want to cast to a Windows based PC, you can do this via a piece of software called Reflector It pretty much emulates an airplay receiver, and your iOS device will find it in it's airplay menu assuming all the networking is set up right. I set that up for a teacher to send their classroom ipad to a laptop hooked up to a projector.
This page explicitly states they do not have to be on the same network. This is what I was calling AirPlay Direct. I used the wrong name and it is called Peer-to-peer Airplay.
Link: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
Quote from that page:
> With peer-to-peer AirPlay, your iOS device and Apple TV don't have to be on the same Wi-Fi network.
Airplay is built into both the ipad and appletv. Here's a guide that explains how to mirror video/audio from your ipad better than I ever would be able to. Just test it out with a video from youtube beforehand. It'll be the same process as when you load up the video stream from livephish. Shoot me a message if you have any other questions.
I think the point of the Chromecast is to have one source for video and audio that you focus on. So you either listen on your iPad, or tell your Chromecast to take over on your TV.
Perhaps mirroring on an AppleTV would be able to accomplish what you're looking for?
You can do that now with the AirPlay function and you're right (it's quicker). I find videos that aren't available through any of the AppleTV options (episodes of Sherlock uploaded to Veoh, stuff people have uploaded to Corrent.org) and play them through the iPhone. Anything that will play on an iPhone will play through the TV using AirPlay. So if someone sends a link for their vacation video on YouTube to you, it's easy to stream it from the phone to the TV that way.
I use the Mirroring function to play some game apps through the TV too. Things that need fast reflexes (Asphalt 8, driving game) have too much lag because my router's old and far from the AppleTV box, but games where you set up strategy and make small changes during the game (Boom Beach, resource management and war) look better on a bigger screen. Surfing the net on the big TV is good for it too.
Maybe the newer version of the AppleTV will have apps running right off the box, so there'll be no lag.
Yeah that app was not good on the Roku 3 when I used it, maybe it's better now. Airplay on the apple TV gives you all the same functionality (stream directly to your TV): https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204289
And it gives you the same access to your itunes library on the go, but with no subscription.
I was just curious if someone finally came out with a media center that doesn't suck ass, and seems like I'm still going to wait for one :(.
I really want one that I can hook up USB drives to, that turns them into virtual drives AND lets me do things like airplay (stream those files to me in airports, or at hotels when travelling etc). I'm close now with an android box at home, and my iphone/surface on the go, with a set up interface for the drive, but not quite there yet.