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I looked at the pricing of their dedicated servers and they were super expensive. If I would be building a new service, I would straight out think foreign providers...
- Hetzner is German hosting provider with data centers in Germany and Finland
- OVH is French hosting company with their own data centers
Of course then there are also Yandex (Russia) and Alibaba Clouds.(China). With these one would need to make sure that servers are located in either USA or EU.
t2.micro is like Raspberry Pi. You want to run production database on t2.micro and then scale/expand it? Expand to where? Vertically? Take it down to change instance type? Horizontally? Sharding? I don't believe you know what it takes to run databases.
You aren't going to get a better bang for a buck with a dedicated server. To get anything close to Hetzner SX1 at ~$80 p/m you'd need something like a c5.4xlarge which'll cost $576 p/m on-demand (eu-west-1). Again, the dedicated server will run circles around the virtualised c5.4xlarge. Don't forget the 4 x 6 TB SATA 3 Gb/s hard drives the Hetzner comes with. How much is that additional cost with Magnetic EBS at $50 per 1TB? Wanna check how much 30TB traffic costs on AWS that's included in the Hetzner's price $80 p/m price?
My point is not that anyway. If you say "I won't use AWS service, I'd rather build it myself because look at EC2 pricing", then you're doing it wrong. People don't use AWS because it's cheaper, cloud is always much much more expensive compared to dedicated hosting as in my example above. People use AWS, and pay premium for it to take away the operational burden and focus on their core competencies - build, ship, deliver service/product or whatever it is.
Your concern is valid.
However, having sufficient bandwidth is a challenge hard to master for most home internet connections. All other hardware requirements can be dealt with at home.
It would for sure help to have the PR at lots different hosting providers.
I was made aware of this offer recently: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax41-nvme so you can have beefy nodes at not overly big costs outside AWS, DO, you name it.
There's nextcloud which does a pretty good job with the drive part, AFAIK they also have an email and calendar app. You'd need to host it yourslef though, but there are hosted options available from for example hetzner (https://www.hetzner.com/storage/nextcloud).
Nextcloud also has a mobile app which works pretty good.
First of all:
Move away from Contabo. Was there myself and this Hoster is one of the baddest ones i had. I moved throw multiple ones and found myself one with good price/performance solution. Most of these Hoster wants more then three times the Price for Hardware from over 10 years ago.
Like the Usage in Contabo Interface and multicraft shows differences:
The CPU can't keep up with the processes so java outsources them into RAM. Your only Solution:
Go to another Hoster. I found a good one for me cause they use CPU's that are about 2 years old or newer, with good support and the Server can run the hell of MC Server like they eat them for Breakfast.
https://www.hetzner.com
In Cloud the one for 8€ (German one here) are good for small Server. Or you can go to the dedicated ones for 40€ starting with:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
64GB DDR4 RAM
2x512GB NvMe SSD
You also get 100GB Backup Storage to store your precious Files before you do something bad.
hetzners server auction might be interesting for you.
* Their cheapest entries are usually around 20€
* You get one IP4 for free along with a /64 IP6 subnet (additional addresses can be purchased)
* reverse DNS can be configured through their administration UI
* You can add credit to your account that is then used to pay monthly costs
Hetzener, in Germany, is your best bet.
https://www.hetzner.com/storage/nextcloud
For € 39.90 a month, you can get 10tb of storage. 500gb of storage would just be € 4.90 a month. Unlimited users, admin access to install apps, etc.
Sorry to hear about that. Hetzner is pretty famous for rejecting orders (look on LET for many examples). They explain why they verify and still reject so many orders here. The entire thread is worth a read. Is Hetzner doing the right thing by rejecting so many applications? I don't know, but it seems that their business is far from going down because of it.
I see where you are coming from and how frustrated you are, but I disagree with your reasons to avoid Hetzner, in particular:
> Do not trust Heztner.
Because they reject many signups? This makes them more trustable, if any.
> Do not put your data in Heztner.
Nothing to do with how they deal with signups.
> You never know when and what will offend them,and they will cancel your account for no reason.
They have refused your signup. They did not purge your data as there was no data to begin with.
They never cancel accounts for no reason. If any, they won't tell you why. Most providers keep the right to do so, actually. But with them Germans, they are pretty clear to state their rules: https://www.hetzner.com/rechtliches/agb follow them and they will never delete your account.
BackBlaze B2 and Wasabi are $5/TBmonth and $6/TBmonth respectively. Online.net's C14 is 2-5€/TBmonth depending on the chosen variant. Hetzner will sell you a "storage box" for about 1.2€/TBmonth, or an entire damned dedicated server for 1.5€/TBmonth.
Even Google and Amazon can do better than this. Google has a $5/TBmonth cold archive storage product and Amazon has $4/TBmonth for standard archival or $0.99/TBmonth for deep archive.
In this world rsync.net is asking $30/TBmonth!? It's just not even close to competitive.
Before you bring up "but those are object storage": yes, most of them are. However Hetzner is not. At the prices rsync.net charges, it's almost certainly cheaper to contract an MSP to maintain a few dedicated servers for you at Hetzner than to pay rsync.net.
OP is talking about half a petabyte of data. At rsync.net for that level of storage, we're talking about $15/TBmonth, or for half a petabyte, $90k/yr.
At Hetzner, assuming you keep three full copies of all your data, that's 38 servers at 64€/month, so 29k€/yr. that's a bit over a third of the price of rsync.net. Add in a few thousand for managing the servers and you're still well under half the price and as a free "fuck you" to rsync.net, you get 152 CPU cores, 1.2TB of RAM and 38Gbit of network for free.
I would rent a physical server from Hetzner, e.g. from the used hardware pool https://www.hetzner.com/sb?country=us which has reasonable prices, and a wide choice of specs (e.g. I have a Xeon with ECC memory, your requirements might differ).
I assume your current capacity is roughly 12 * 8 (give or take) so I'll round up to 13 * 8 ~ 104TB.
Even moving that volume of data across the net is going to take you some time. I'm not very confident you'll be done in a month.
Currently, once all your drives in your VDEV are replaced by a larger capacity, zfs can/will expand to make use of the larger sizes. From what I understand it is an all-or-nothing option - so you're looking at some serious outlay of $$$ to replace 14 x drives to the new capacity (I think things are better now with Chia sort of dying a slow death).
If you're anyway going to be replacing the drives, I'd say do it instead of the whole migrate to cloud and back option. Plus you could probably have secondary storage with those replaced disks as well. Win-win overall assuming you are OK with the cash for it.
If you're really out of options and want to go cloud, take a look at Hetzner's auction boxes (https://www.hetzner.com/sb) - there are a few 10x10TBs and 15x10TBs that you can use for a month or two depending but they're definitely in the € 250-300 range per month. The machines are obviously good but depending on where you are, network throughput will likely be bottlenecked to really push that much data consistently to fill them up in short order. Also, there are a few 4x16 TBs that come and go (rough price point of € 65) but you'll need many of them assuming you want some RAID level on them to keep your data safe as you migrate back-and-forth.
Hope this helps and good luck!
I'm the admin of peertube.social, a leftist Peertube instance. I would be happy to host Breadtube content there. Signups are currently closed due to spam, but I will manually create an account for anyone who contacts me with the contact administrator button.
If you want to host your own instance thats also cool, and I would be happy to help. You should have some knowledge about Linux administration, but the costs can be pretty low. For reference, I currently pay 13 Euros per month for my instance, using Hetzner CX21 and BX30.
I've got no experience with hosted Nextcloud but I've used Hetzner for VPS in the past and were happy with them. They were on the low end of the price scale for the providers offering hosted Nextcloud the last time I checked so might not be there worst place to start.
It's actually a rented server in a data center with a symmetric gigabit connection and unlimited traffic (as long as I don't exceed 30 TB outgoing traffic for three months in a row), so this is now putting it to some real use ;)
Typically I have seen this described as "dedicated". Prime example of that is Hetzner's cloud (https://www.hetzner.com/cloud) where you can select a dedicated VCPU. It is nearly 10x the price of normal however so my guess is Hetzner is overselling a CPU about that ratio, 10x or so on its standard cloud.
Contabo seems to classify them as a separate class under VPS (https://contabo.com/en/vds/) as virtual dedicated servers although they do nothing below 3 cores for that.
The key word is usually dedicated but how dedicated it actually is I don't know.
For quick and dirty jobs, you could rent a Hetzner server (Their SX Line with 160TB of storage for 180€ a month depending where you're living). -> https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-sx?country=us
A Budget of 5K would last you 2,3 years (~27 months)
If you want to store for longer, you'd be better off buying hard drives and doing as others have suggested.
You could get a dedicated server on Hetzner and use full disk encryption to perserve privacy. Check out the auctions for some older servers which you can get for pretty cheap
Are you paying VAT? If not you can actually just grab another Hetzner auction box.
4x 4 TB Enterprise
€ 32.77 / month
Appreciate the question! Servers are hosted in Germany -- Hetzner is an awesome hosting provider with some unbelievable pricing and I'm pretty close to them on price (if you were to use a Hetzner Cloud instance). Of course you can't just rock up and order like 50 machines so I have to do a tiny bit more management -- basically multiplexing the dedicated servers, it's so easy a caveman (who could set up a k8s cluster) could do it (tm)!
For GitLab I use the Docker executor since it has the most features available and is easiest to manage. All the runners are in their own VMs though, so it's basically docker running on a VM on a real dedicated machine.
Any of the cloud providers should have free/very low cost tiers that will work for you. I used Google Cloud Platform for several of my early Web apps during college, I'd only end up paying 2-3 cents per month. You can also check out Hetzner; they have the absolute best deals on virtual private servers (basically a dedicated Linux virtual machine in the cloud) that I've ever seen. I host my VPS with them, and I get 8GB RAM and 100GB of disk for ~$11 USD/month.
Well, you could give users 0MB of storage, but then they wouldn't be able to save the stream.
I guess you could also try to give them a few GB of storage and with CSS, remove the upload-button? :D
Also, storage can be found pretty cheap: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box
Also ich für meinen Teil habe mir einen günstigen Dedicated Server auf der Hetzner Server BörseHetzner Server Börse geholt, die haben manchmal gute Angebote. Kostet zwar 28€/Monat aber der ganze Rechner und Hardware ist nur für mich. Darauf habe ich 2 MC Server, Webserver und andere Services unter Linux Debian laufen ohne Probleme. Wenn du dich dafür interessierst ist das evt. Etwas womit du dich auseinandersetzen kannst. Haste alle Freiheit, aber auch viel eigenen Konfigurationsaufwand.
Ansonsten hatte ich bei Nitrado früher immer gute Performance, ich weiß nicht wie das heutzutage aussieht.
Manchmal hilft es, den Support auf die Performance Probleme aufmerksam machen. Ein guter Hoster hat die Systeme im Blick und bei Flaschenhälsen z. B. Bei der Rechenleistung wird der Server-Cluster verbessert oder einzelne MC Server auf andere Server Cluster geschoben, damit es nicht zu lags, auch bei großen Welten oder Modepacks, kommt. Das einzige was oft vorgeschrieben ist, ist der RAM. Den kannst du aber auch zumindest bei Nitrado selbst Überwachen und bei Bedarf upgraden.
Du kannst auch einfach mehrere Hoster testen, bis du einen findest, der dir passt. Die Welt und Spielerdaten lassen sich meistens einfach über FTP mitnehmen.
You can get an extra 96GB of RAM for 10EUR less at Hetzner.
I've used dedicated a a bunch and it works well but at this scale you're getting well into colo territory so I'd seriously consider it if you're anywhere near a major city. There are usually deals depending on where you are; I was paying $60/month for 2U in a shared cabinet with gigabit when I lived in the US.
And if this is just a backup you can also consider just dumping a NAS at a friend's place.
All I can say is that you can get a server with something like 32Gb of RAM, an hell of a good CPU, huge disks, fully dedicated with full control for 1/4 or less of the prices that these hosts provide.
Check Hetzner server auctions: https://www.hetzner.com/sb
I have an i7-4770, 32Gb of RAM DDR3, 2x2Tb enterprise hdd's in RAID and all of that for only 27 Euros...
Allows me to allocate all the RAM I might need to a pack or even run multiple packs on the same server.
If you're not sure which of these is really best for you, just give us a short holler. We won't bite. https://www.hetzner.com/support-form. Give us some more information on how you plan to use the server, and what resources you require, and our team will be happy to help. You can also talk to a real person on the phone: +49 (0)911 234226-927 or you can open a chat with our sales techs by going to one of the product pages and looking for the red chat icon in the bottom right corner. (This is only available during business hours in Germany.) The chat is just for pre-sales questions. --Katie, Marketing, Hetzner Online
In addition to managed/unmanaged issues raised by u/BannedNotBanned.
- Semi-anonymous payment (cryptocurrencies and identity verification): Hetzner no, Pulsedmedia yes
- Public trackers: Hetzner no, Pulsedmedia yes
- Anything movie related (Plex, Radarr*, Sonarr*, ..): Hetzner yes, Pulsedmedia no
- Root: Hetzner yes, Pulsedmedia no
> In performance and peering.
You need to specify performance of what and peering to what. Generally speaking, Hetzner has dedicated hardware resources that seem higher than what you get shared by Pulsedmedia.
Peering to your home: depends where you live.
Peering to other seedboxes in Europe: Hetzner is not that bad actually. Just not as good as servers in NL and F. For example, Hetzner peers decently with Leaseweb. See their data centers page for more information. I have no idea regarding Pulsedmedia.
* You should still be able to use Radarr and Sonarr on another box/at home, with r(u)torrent on Pulsedmedia handling downloads/uploads
I am not sure specifically why these servers were picked. I will pass on your feedback about the EX servers. I am sorry they are not included in the sale. Perhaps, however, there is something on the Server Auction that will catch your eye. The servers on the Auction don't have setup fees either. https://www.hetzner.com/sb --Katie
I'll be that guy and say, use Hetzner and set it up yourself on Linux if you're feeling adventurous.
Hard to beat their price-to-performance ratio, I've hosted dozens of servers there over the last few months without issue.
However, that's only if you're reasonably comfortable following a tutorial with a command line... so, don't bother if not :)
>9) Do you plan to use public trackers?
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>99.5% private
If you can make this to 100%
CPU: Xeon L3426
RAM: 16 GB DDR3
Storage: 2× 2 TB (HDD SATA)
Bandwidth: 1Gbps Unmetered FUP
Price: 15 Euros / Month
CPU: Xeon E3-1246V3
RAM: 32 GB DDR3
Storage: 2 x2 TB (Enterprise HDD SATA)
Bandwidth: 1Gbps Unmetered
Price: 23.53 Euros / Month
If you want half the hardware, i want half the monthly cost. If you need smaller amounts, we can talk about it. Send me your discord if you are interested.
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/sx133
My server is located in Helsinki. You have to add +25%, as i have to pay vat from where i live.
Netlify verkar poppis om du vill slippa underhåll och få massa bra verktyg.
https://www.hetzner.com/ är billiga och i Europa om du bara vill ha en VPS.
Har aldrig provat Squarespace men de gör ju reklam överallt så har säkert många användare.
Domänen kan du väl köpa hos vilken registrar som helst, jag har inte provat så många så vet inte hur olika bra DNS-verktyg etc funkar. Har ett par domäner hos websupport.se men det var inte direkt med flit de hamnade där. Har inget att klaga på, men jag använder bara DNS också.
I know this the aws subreddit, but I'd say even lightsail instances are too expensive for non cricital things such as a minecraft instance. You wouldn't use any of the more advanced aws features which you pay for. If I were you, I'd check out for example https://www.hetzner.com/cloud CX21 instances with 4g ram for just over 5 bucks. I'm sure there are other cheap providers out there too.
For large amounts of data I don't think Backblaze was ever the cheapest, it's just cheap, managed and widely available.
If you want cheaper storage, you need to manage it yourself and look at dedicated or colo.
For dedicated, look at Hetzner. 40TB for 64 Euro (i.e. 1.6EUR/TB), including an entire CPU and 32GB RAM.
You can also keep an eye on their server auctions. You can easily get 16TB for ~33EUR right now, which is also around half the price of Backblaze or Wasabi.
For colo, the best thing is to share a rack with some other people but there are's also cheap(ish) colo from providers like FDCServers.
Hi again, as you can see in our ToS, this is already prohibited:
https://www.hetzner.com/rechtliches/cloud-server/
However, the risk that a customer violates our service agreement is fairly high. As a hosting provider we have the responsibility to protect our customers and other users of the Internet. At the moment I can only forward your wish to our dev team but I can't promise anything.
If you know more people who wish for a Cloud server with GPU, you can encourage them to send us feature requests. If our dev team sees a growing demand for Cloud servers with graphic cards, maybe you'll get lucky :)
--Julia
If you mean Cloud like AWS and Azure, you definitely pay a premium and that mostly has to do with that these services mostly target companies and service providers.
If you need high storage cloud instances for cheap and don't care too much about data redundancy, there is quite a bit of VPS providers that got you sorted.
Here you can find a bunch of cheap deals that have competitive pricing: https://www.lowendstorage.win
If you do not mind dedicated servers I would also recommend Hetzner and/or OVH SoYouStart: https://www.hetzner.com/sb https://www.soyoustart.com/en/server-storage/
I think you are overestimating the price of required server. The price is trivial even for a smallest pool, here is a 1Gbit/s server for 39 EUR/month: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex41
10Gbit/s link is relatively cheap too, if you are not saturating it 100% of time.
I've only had a taste of Azure & AWS but based on that first lick I'd choose the low-end 4€/month offering from Hetzner or the ridiculously beefy (for that price) 5€/month offering from Contabo. Your time isn't free either and those prices are very reasonable.
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EDIT: oh, sorry, those prices are without tax, but it's still not particularly high
As usual. Hard to beat Herzner. Any of PX storage line if you are looking for spindles https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-px
If you can live with limitations, check https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box
u/Valcorb - Thanks for the shoutout! We really appreciate it! :) :)
u/MetallicAchu - Here's the link to our Server Auction and to some FAQs about it. --Katie, Marketing
Currently this https://www.hetzner.com/sb
Intel i7-2600 32GB 6TB EUR27 per month
I've had this for a year. Prices have increased recently
Previously this https://www.seedhost.eu/dedicated-servers.php
Intel X3440 8GB 8TB EUR30 per month
Also https://www.kimsufi.com/en/servers.xml
Note that KS-1 and KS-2 are never available, and KS-3 is more likely to come with an Intel i3 these days because Atom N2800 is obsolete (the i3 is about 40% faster)
Intel Atom (or i3), 4GB, 2TB EUR8 per month
These are good for up to about 1300 torrents before the disk fills
Probably the cheapest dedicated server anywhere
Network is limited to 100Mbit
J’ai un serveur chez Hetzner https://www.hetzner.com/cloud ; le CX21 répond très bien à mes besoins de petit serveur dans le nuage ; tu peux naturellement lui ajouter de la capacité de stockage selon tes besoins.
Not exactly a seed box per se, but you can get storage servers from Hetzner for pretty cheap and you can mount them however you’d like to your current device.
Here is a link to their storage box comparison.
Looks like it would be ~$12 a month. 10 TB of upload traffic. Unlimited download.
Interesting - in Europe, you'll get the about quadruple the RAM, double disk space and 10x traffic for that money :)
https://www.vpsbenchmarks.com/trials/hetzner_performance_trial_25Feb2019
If you don't store any user data it doesn't really matter where the hosting company is.
For a static website I would recommend something like netlify, it's free and I never had any problems with it.
If you absolutely need php I would go with Hetzner. 2€ / month (https://www.hetzner.com/webhosting/level-1). Probably one of the best hosting companies in europe.
For email hosting : If I were you I would pick another company to host my email. Hosting your website and email in the same place is never a good idea. I think that Zoho still has a free tier that supports email hosting with custom domains.
Also sucht ihr eig einen Managed-Server?
For webhosting, a European is mostly fine.
https://www.hetzner.com/cloud is what I tried, and speed and latency is pretty good. You can get one to try, with their hourly billing it will probably cost you a few cents before you making your decision.
Otherwise OVH public cloud has BHS location.
2 GB RAM
1 vCores (2.4 GHz)
10 GB SSD
100 Mbit/s
From USD$3.50 ex. VAT/month
BuyVM recommended below is also a good one. I've been their customer for a decade.
Hi there! It's true, our EX42(-NVMe) is currently out of stock.
We expect it to be available for ordering again in August/September. We will update our website as soon as the EX42 is available again.
If you immediately need a server, you can look around in our server auction: <strong>https://www.hetzner.com/sb</strong>. Maybe you can find a server that also fits your needs.
Also, you can ask here or on other forums if someone sells their EX42 at the moment. Maybe you'll get lucky!
Good luck and sorry for the inconvenience.
--Julia, Marketing
the hetzner ex lineup is a super amazing value, and for your use case, I think more appropriate, and a better deal than auction hetzner pricing...
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex
The ex52-nvme or the ex62-nvme should easily handle your usage. You may even squeek by with a ex42-nvme - Just don't count on the igpu of the EX62 being utilized by plex just as of yet, due to linux kernel limitations.
May I also suggest cloudbox if you are a gdrive user as well. Good luck.
You're using the wrong tool. Object storage is just a basic key/value store.
Usually you'd do something like store objects by their hash or some other kind of ID then have a separate database keeping track of metadata like filename, date, owner etc.
I don't know if there's an out of the box solution that does this for you with B2. The closest might be Owncloud with Wasabi but that's a totally different provider.
But depending on how much you're storing, there are options that get you a real filesystem for similar prices, particularly from Hetzner (located in Germany) like their Storage Boxes and dedicated servers. You'll have no issues with renaming and such there.
If you want to stick with their cloud offerings (which I'd recommend, based on your use cases outlined) start with the 2.49 EUR per month option - resizing is a cinch, as is attaching storage (and attaching 20GB more storage to the CX11 is cheaper than paying for the CX21).
It's got 20GB storage included (an additional 20GB attached volume is only .8 EUR/mo) and more transfer than you'll ever need (based on your highlighted use cases) :)
Hetzner actually has a server action as well which does not include the setup fee. It however has a lacking server control panel so you need to be handy yourself with setting up the server, but there are quite alot of players who can help you with that (not me though). For the control panel replacement I suggest using pterodactyl.
We actually purchased a server from their server action for €27,- with almost the same specs as you (ours had DDR3 memory) last friday. We expect the same amount of players. I however cannot yet confirm the performance but they should be good.
> In other words rumors of Epyc not existing yet are bs. Maybe they've directed the production toward customers like Baidu, Microsoft, and ...
This is all such crap...
If anyone ever had any doubt it even existed, they should've been pointed to Hetzner, a large German hosting site that has had them since EARLY NOVEMBER.
I mean, sure it's not one of the Super 7, but that's why it's faster to react!
Cost, mostly.
aws, gcs, etc are best for services where you have them scaling up and down as required. If you have static requirements, and you can get an appropriately scaled dedicated machine, you can get it for (generally) a fair bit less.
I've got 2TB of storage, along with 8 cores and 32GB of ram, for about 50 euro a month. (main server)
I could probably work with less, but I don't see a reason to. And my things are not designed to scale horizontally (if you run out of resources, spin up more servers), only vertically (have bigger servers)
For a similar spec you'd be looking at a m4.2xlarge, which is around €0.40 an hour. That's around €292 per month.
As compared to:
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex41?country=gb
€39 a month. (I'm on the earlier model, which costs more. But migrating is a pain in the ass. I should do it some time. Though the €79 setup charge means I'd be paying the same for around a year, with a single month overlap. You can see why I haven't really done it.)
Hi Italian_Cracker, You can always contact our product advice team if you have any questions before making a purchase, for example, if you have questions about traffic limits: https://www.hetzner.com/support-form. (However, our vServers do not include support for software, configurations, etc., so you will not get support on Icecast, for example.) If you don't get any helpful answers here, there is also the Hetzner Online DiskussionsForum, which is available to customers. Most of the users are currently German-speaking, but many are also fluent in English and will share tips and tricks for the vServer. Good luck with your radio website!--Katie, Marketing
Yes with sub accounts: https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/storage-box/additional-users
If you need a better user handling then check their Storage Shares which are better suited for such tasks (they are managed Nextclouds): https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share?country=ot
> GKE
Uff...
Naja, wenn man eh schon so viel Geld hat, wieso dann überhaupt auf ARM-Boards entwickeln?!
https://www.hetzner.com/de/cloud - mit einer CX31 Instanz kommst du bis Mitte 2022 aus bei dem Budget... hat halt auch ein bissl mehr Wumms als ein RPi.
Alternativ halt bestellen und die 20€ bis Weihnachten halt bei Hetzner liegen lassen... oder eben ein altes Notebook reaktivieren oder so. Irgendwer hat immer sowas herumflattern - RAM-Riegel rein und geht schon.
can you tell me price for a cluster with 64gb ram, 8 core cpu and 15b nvme ssd? it would be around 3500 usd in atlas.
you can setup same specs on hetzner for about 300 usd.
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax51-nvme
and you can buy whatever support you need with rest of your money
That's on the edge to a Rootserver but (depending on your hosting company) well into the range of usual hosting. If you can live with Central EU I recommend hetzner, they offer reasonably cheap rootservers, even good used ones: https://www.hetzner.com/sb
Otherwise post more requirements so we don't have to guess.
Hi u/Sky_Linx -- It's really cool to see you writing tutorials that use our products. It's a big compliment.
Just a thought -- If you don't use it already, have you ever considered using the Hetzner Referral Program? You could, in theory, add your referral link to tutorials that you write that refer to Hetzner Cloud products. Just a thought. --Katie
I am using a managed server from Hetzner.
They also offer a Nextcloud storage solution: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share
I can definitely recommend them. I am a customer since over 10 years and I never had any issues that could not be solved by their excellent service
>Hetzner has changed their TOS and now ALL crypto mining is banned.
It was always banned. Bought a VDS at the beginning of the month and found that cryptos are banned a few hours later by reading the TOS:
>Dedicated Server Service Agreement
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>We strive to keep our networks operating at the highest possible level,so all of our clients benefit from it. Therefore the following actionsare prohibited:
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>Operating applications that are used to mine crypto currencies
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>The scanning of foreign networks or foreign IP addresses
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>Manually changing the hardware address (MAC)
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>The use of fake source IPs.
Cancelled it right away.
I recommend you look at Hetzner for hosting your cloud services, Hetzner does not cost much money and has a lot of servers so your cloud service can be scalable.
The hardest part of hosting cloud services is keeping everything up to date and making sure it is secure and the servers have secure backups.
Thank you
My favorite hosting provider these days is Hetzner -- super reasonably priced if you can live with a little extra latency (of course, if you're in the EU then there's not really any latency and things are great.
one of the great things about learning kubernetes and being comfortable with it is that you can really really easily build a global compute cluster (it's not recommended to spread out clusters across geos, but you can do it) and you can control workloads well with affinity/anti-affinity/node selectors and all that good stuff.
I use Hetzner for a dedicated server. For a simple portfolio site, their shared hosting looks reasonable and they have been a pleasure to work with if I had any issues.
Hello! Most TechMC servers are self hosted but Hetzner is very popular. Slightly more budget friendly is Bloom.host. Pebblehost is also popular because they are cheap. As for specs, Ryzen 9 3900 or 5950X are desirable CPUs and you'll want at least 2 dedicated cores or threads.
I think you will find that no matter what host you choose, building efficient farms (reducing hoppers, limiting dust, pistons, etc.), managing mob cap and AFK'ing only at the farms you need will be necessary to get good performance: a high-end hosting package can still be brought to it's knees by a bad farm or world eaters.
If you're interested I can recommend a Discord where you could get answers to technical MC specific questions.
I think 1GB of RAM and 1vCPU won't be enough, I'd suggest at least 2/3GB of RAM and, possibly (but not required) 2vCPUs.
Right now I'm running on 4GB RAM and 2vCPU and these are my server stats (from ./vhserver details):
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If you wanna go cheap, try the CX21 server on Hetzner. They have 2vCPU and 4GB of RAM for ~5.8€ / month. I don't even have a referral for Hetzner (sadly) so it's just a friendly advice :)
Popular place to rent dedicated servers: https://www.hetzner.com/
A/c to this, they don't allow mining cryptocurrencies but perhaps that only applies to traditional PoW coins.
While contabo is okay for the needs of most people selfhosting here, I would not trust a business with them. You can get some very inexpensive dedicated servers from hetzner from their auctions page and honestly, I might just go with that.
I would recommend go take a look at Hetzner Auction servers and get one within your budget, shove ESXi on it with a pfsense VM and do your own infrastructure. Make sure you get 2 IPs, one for ESXi you get free with server, you will need a second one to route everything else. https://www.hetzner.com/sb
Cheapest per/TB I found was Hetzner's, you can get below 2 EUR/TB: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-sx
But it's not what I use. And it's not what you want, as cheapest per/TB is a bad metric for you.
The server is new in the sense that I really haven't tried to use it before now, because I got tired of the error.
I am running Windows 10, and do not have access to a terminal (that I know of...).
I have been reading through Hetzners documentation, and they say that "for each subdomain that you add, our administration interface will request an SSL certificate from the provider Let's Encrypt" (https://www.hetzner.com/konsoleh/storage-share/subdomain). Do you think that could mean that I would need a subdomain in order to get an SSL-certificate, or would that not make sense?
The nodes are from Hetzner. When you setup a new machine, that's the default hostname the Hetzner panel gives to your installatiion, as well as the PTR record they set to its IP.
My guess is that many setup a node there (they are cheap) and do not bother to change the defaults.
then look at what hetzner is offering. hetzner is german. their auctions tend to be pretty cheap:
even that old i7 one will be faster than your current VPS.
edit: the 3rd gen i7s are fastest. you can compare cpus here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
Actually the cheapest I have seen is around $2/TB/month with https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-sx
You can get a 40TB server for 64eu/month or 100TB server for 159eu/month both with Gbps and no cap.
for a few TB of backup I rent a server from hetzner server auctions - https://www.hetzner.com/sb
I found one with 12 tb for about 31$ / mo with also 32 gb of ram and 8 cores so i can run some vms / dockers on it.
Your requirements are going to lock you out of many options.
The closest dedicated you are going to find would likely be a Hetzner auction server but it's going to be a 1G connection and you will need to find another payment method besides crypto.
One that might fit for you is seedboxes.cc as they now offer unlimited transfer and Plex support but the catch is you get a set amount of premium network bandwidth then once you exceed that you are switched off onto their volume network for the remainder of your billing period.
However, Plex traffic is never switched off onto the volume network so this might be a workable option for you to take a look at with their 7-day money back guarantee.
Let us know who you go with and how it works out for you!
As /u/prod_engineer mentioned, Hetzner is a good option for a bare metal provider. They do server auctions: https://www.hetzner.com/sb They do start at ~20EUR/month.
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You could also ask on /r/selfhosted
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A dedicated server with ECC support (just add ECC in Searchterms) from here might be the best choice. The have you own backups in your premises and also a second server from the same place:
For the pricing see https://www.hetzner.com/cloud - I use a mix of servers, for example for standard Kubernetes I usually use 3 nodes with 4 cores and 16 GB of ram that cost me 20€ per month each since I'm in Finland; for the K3S master I use the cheapest 3€/mo one with 1 core and 2 GB of ram, while for the workers (3) I use the 11€/mo servers with 2 cores and 8 GB of ram. Hetzner Cloud is incredibly convenient price wise and works great. Very good performance and very stable. It takes max 10 seconds to spin up a server. The problem with Hetzner Cloud is that it's still a relatively new service so it doesn't offer yet all the additional services that others offer, although they are coming. But if all you need is compute it's a great option. However you have just the servers so you have to do/manage everything yourself. With GKE and similar you have the management sorted for you, but that also means less control for you. As for deploying apps and services there aren't any significant differences between managed clusters and DIY ones.
Oh no, only 250mbps.
Hetzner auction gives 1gbps line, unmetered. I am not 100% sure if it is dedicated to your server or shared. https://www.hetzner.com/sb
In your opinion, why/when do you suggest someone getting SoYouStart servers? Maybe public trackers, cause I know Hetzner forwards DMCA notices to you.
You can buy a Nextcloud server from Hetzner.
1 TB for 7,90 € and 5 TB traffic limit.
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Traffic use is free of cost. However, if you exceed more than 5 TB/month, your connection will be throttled (the basis for calculation is for outgoing traffic only. Incoming and internal traffic is not calculated).
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Wäre eine managed Nextcloud von Hetzner eine Option? Für nen knappen 10er gibts 2TB und Nextcloud ist echt klasse.
https://www.hetzner.com/storage/nextcloud
Edit: Alternativ die 100GB Version um 2,90€/Mon und die Dropbox als externen Speicher einhängen. Weiß aber nicht wie performant das ist.
Hetzner Cloud is their VPS line. I tried the CX11 and was only billed 50 cents after using it for half a week. Most people recommend the CX21 for Plex as you'll get double the CPU, RAM, and storage- especially if it'll be your main server.
With Hetzner Cloud you can also make snapshots (easy to restore backups) of your servers. So if you went with a lower end option initially- you might be able to make a snapshot and then redeploy it on a higher end option. I can't say for sure as I've never used the snapshot option but that's how I understood it.
Your current Whatbox plan is $44/month for UL download and 9TB upload per month?
If so then holy cow that's expensive, you can get a dedicated server for that price with more BW.
https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver
https://i.imgur.com/qCOyiG9.png
Or look at Soyoustart (250mbps upload cap), online.net, oneprovider or many others mentioned in this sub.
What trackers are you racing on?
sorry your using hetzner not nocix, I recognized the range but got it wrong.
However you can easily just answer a basic question, how many ppl on each server and how many do you co-locate with hetzner?
Lowest plan hetzner has for co-lo is https://www.hetzner.com/colocation/13-rack
2tb of transfer? uh oh wonder what they charge for overages?
Dedicated servers are billed monthly. They start pretty much where the vm's end.
See https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex
That's a 32gb ram
2x500gb ssd or 2x 2tb HDD And i7-6700
for 34€ in Helsinki or about 40€ in Germany per month
Not sure why you got downvoted there, other than you could probably look at the Dedicated Servers, but those are also limited to 20TB and are then throttled to 10mbps.
But you can pay for each additional TB on a dedicated server though at 1.17EUR per TB for full unthrottled access.
That's the link to the auction where you can find cheap dedicated servers.
Maybe check out Hetzner in Germany, what I had in mind was the market for second-hand dedicated servers, which you can rent monthly with no setup fee, but they also do new servers that are not extortionate, setup fees and minimum contracts apply though.
If you are in Europe, Hertzner has started a cloud VPS short time ago and the prices are very competitive, starting at 2,5€ / month. The drawback: the dashboard lacks monitoring features, you need to add a 3rd party software if that's important for you. If it's a hobby app, probably it's not a matter
I personally haven't seen anything below the ~30USD price point, and haven't seen VPS or virtual plans that offer enough local storage for the whole usenet suite. I had good luck for awhile on a Xenon 5520 with 16GB of RAM and 4x250GB drives from Wholesale Internet. It locked up periodically though, old hardware I guess. Just briefly tried Scaleways (neat concept, horribly oversold so you're liable to loose your server when you need to reconfigure something), and just switched to a Hetzner auction server with a pair of 2TB disks in RAID0, an i7 and 32GB of RAM.
I was nervous moving overseas (I'm in the US, Hetzner is German) but I had no buffering issues with either Scaleways in Paris or Hetzner in Germany. Both have actually performed better than Wholesale, who was on the same continent as me.
Not exactly cloud pihole, although it would be really interesting to make pihole cloud service, maybe with subscription, and of course with local mirrors for different locations... free business idea?)
About VPS, any offer from here would do: https://lowendbox.com
And if you are open to different languages, there are even more offers between 1 and 3 bucks: https://vds.menu (Russian, worldwide) https://www.hetzner.com/cloud (English, Germany)
Check their auctions ... they have older hardware (but still quite good) for less than the mainline offerings at a discount
As of a few minutes ago, you can get a RAIDed 3TB setup with 16G RAM for 26.89€ / mo
Just a suggestion https://www.hetzner.com/?country=us (located in Germany). They have decent prices on bare metal and DDoS protection https://www.hetzner.com/unternehmen/ddos-schutz 30 TB of outgoing traffic included. Have very positive experience for several years.
If you're paying the setup fee on the ST8 anyways, you might want to consider the EX lineup: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex
Their EX41 is basically a direct competitor to the ST8 (with ~20 euros more setup and a tiny bit less monthly). Drives come brand new and the last two times I've ordered them, they came with the latest i7 7700 CPUs.
Sure enough, you could skip the setup fee by going with a slightly older CPU off the auction, but I'd probably hold out for a better deal than the 3770 you posted.
Here are some comparisons for you. I like to look at single-threaded performance as well.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1214&cmp[]=896&cmp[]=1196
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=896&cmp[]=1196&cmp[]=2905
I'd recommend Hetzner, they're based in Germany: https://www.hetzner.com/virtual-server
Good prices, good performance, good support. Their interface looks a bit dated, but it works well - unlike OVH's, which is slow, confusing and not even fully translated from French.
If you are going for OneProvider, then at least for the box with Intel Xeon E3-1230 cpu. It costs 5 bucks more. But I think it will be better suited for the purpose.
You can also check out servers from Online.net, SYS, Hetzner.