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For those interested in actual Search Engine usage:
Google: 67.6%
Bing: 18.3%
Yahoo: 10.4%
Since Yahoo is powered by Bing, that means 28.7% of all searches run through Bing. http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Press_Releases/2014/2/comScore_Releases_January_2014_US_Search_Engine_Rankings
In the US it's 41%, android phones absolutely dominate developing countries (ie 91% in Brazil)
Yeah, according to this site Apple and Samsung have 70% of the US phone market. If they say something is happening then it will happen.
The only way it wouldn't is if every carrier refused, but then all it would take is one to adopt it and everyone would switch to them to get the latest iPhone/Samsung, causing a domino effect with the other carriers to stop them losing customers
I suspect those numbers are just projected directionally based on old data. Obvi isn't coming from someone authoratitive (comscore, quantcast, Nielson). Anyway, its not accurate, at least in the US (global data is trickier to get).
12.5 billion US Google searches (May 2014)
11.1 billion US Youtube content views (March 2014)
Someone else can do the per second math, but you get the idea.
(Sorry on phone) https://www.comscore.com/Insights/Market-Rankings/comScore-Releases-May-2014-US-Search-Engine-Rankings)
> Your History isn't bigger
In modern football history is becoming less and less important. It doesn't dictate how fans choose their teams, nor how players choose their clubs.
> Your present isn't bigger
Not sure what you mean here.
> More fans ? I'd like a proof of that.
I don't have great sources, I know it to be true. Since you asked, details on online visits from 2007 link
This puts Chelsea second behind Man Utd in terms of global fans. Assuming this is true, there's no way PSG would outrank the top 3, and I would guess the top 5.
And this says he had 400 million global fans in 2014. PSG do not have anywhere near that number.
> More money ? Your dream.
It hasn't made you a superpower over night. That's why Man City trail behind Man Utd in terms support.
EDIT: spelling.
As another interesting note,
Facebook Messenger has a 65.4% market penetration rate in the US mobile market, while iMessage has a 44.9% market penetration rate in the US mobile market - which really says Facebook Messenger the 'default' messenger in the United States and not iMessage.
Not much of a stretch. According to comScore, that's still over 6 million Windows Phone users in the US alone (and WP usage share is higher elsewhere), although of course the percentage of those people actively using Steam Trading would be small.
Seriously, could you misread a chart any worse?
Here are the current smartphone market shares using data that isn't ancient or predictive:
Android has 36.4% of the US smartphone market while iOS has 26.0%. On top of that Android is growing faster and the rate of that growth is also increasing faster than iOS. Apple has already lost.
Google has not lost any marketshare in 6 years. So the best has not lost anything.
2015 64.5% and 2009 64.2%.
Demographic of BBC News Viewers, as far as the BBC is concerned: "Population of the UK."
Population of the UK: ~60 million.
Smartphone-owning population of the UK: ~11 Million as of January 2010
iPhone Market Share of UK Smartphones: 20.5% as of January 2010
They're doing a story that directly effects at least 4% of their audience and is of possible interest to at least 20% of their audience. Seems reasonable to me.
(Source on market numbers: http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2010/3/UK_Leads_European_Countries_in_Smartphone_Adoption_with_70_Growth_in_Past_12_Months )
AOL is one of the big "4" out there - Google, Yahoo!, AOL, MSN. They make most of their money on Advertising across sites that they own: Huffington Post, TechCrunch, Engadget, Moviefone, Mapquest, Games.com, Stylelist, Kitchen Daily, TUAW, Cambio...etc. They also own the #1 Network (Ad.com) - it touches 95% of the internet. Recent press shows that they are also #1 of video ads served.
SOURCE: I work in digital advertising.
75% of the market where? Not in the USA. http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Market-Rankings/comScore-Reports-January-2015-US-Smartphone-Subscriber-Market-Share
I bet apple is paying nothing. People are not buying phones because of a fallout game.
Interesting. I wonder what Google's market share of searches is in the US?
EDIT: Apparently it's 62% compared to the 92% in Europe.
>comScore, Inc. (NASDAQ: SCOR) is a global leader in digital measurement and analytics, delivering insights on web, mobile and TV consumer behavior that enable clients to maximize the value of their digital investments.
>Through its Audience Analytics, Advertising Analytics, and Enterprise Analytics product suites, comScore provides its clients with a variety of on-demand software, real-time analytics and custom solutions to succeed in a multi-platform world. The proprietary comScore Census Network™ (CCN) leverages a world-class technology infrastructure to capture trillions of digital interactions a month and power big data analytics on a global scale for its more than 2,000 clients, which include leading companies such as AOL, Baidu, BBC, Best Buy, Carat, Deutsche Bank, ESPN, France Telecom, Financial Times, Fox, LinkedIn, Microsoft, MediaCorp, Nestle, Starcom, Terra Networks, Universal McCann, Verizon, ViaMichelin and Yahoo!.
http://www.comscore.com/About-comScore/Media-Kit/Company-Information
More like most mobile users don't download apps with comScore analytics built into them...
Or, they're on Android, rooted, and blocking comScore's IP addresses with an AdBlocker of some kind.
>"2/3 users didn't download AOL, ESPN, LinkedIn, or Yahoo apps so that must mean they didn't download any apps, right?"
Yahoo is actually shockingly close to Google in US traffic, and occasionally surpasses them for a month: http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Market-Rankings/comScore-Ranks-the-Top-50-US-Digital-Media-Properties-for-February-2015
Recent estimates put Apple's current market share at around 42.4% (as of July 2014. That same data identifies 173 million smartphone users pegging the number of iPhone users in the US at approx. 73.4 million people. The current US population is estimated to be 317 million meaning appox. 23.2% of the people (or a little less than 1/4) in the US own iPhones. Still a large sample that most definitely contains bigots, but a lot less than the 75% of the population you were quoting.
What? The title of the article is "Thinking Of Just Creating An iPhone App?..." The "article's" stance isn't "don't develop for iPhone", as the submission title suggests, it's "don't ignore Android and RIM". This headline is just ridiculous rabblerousing.
Not to mention that this is barely an article. It just regurgitates some numbers, poorly and inaccurately. Apple gained .2% market share, going from 25% to 25.2%. They didn't lose 46% or even 4.6%.
Ugh.
That is not only wrong (Android beats Apple 51-44, for the lazy), it also misses my point. Regardless of how the market share looks, a feature that iOS may incorporate that Android already has isn't exactly going to "pressure people to change". Just think about it - that doesn't make any sense.
Based on sales, those are the most popular Android devices in retail. Same reason you don't see cases sold in random non tech retailers for anything other than an iPhone and Galaxy S series.
> farthest thing from the best phone for less technologically inclined people
Considering that Samsung ships more devices than another manufacturer says you are wrong.
http://www.androidauthority.com/smartphone-industry-q3-2014-567890/
Not to mention they currently have almost 30% of the mobile market.
So I would say that Samsung knows what they are doing.
Just like Apple Maps took 80% of Google Maps iOS traffic and iTunes Radio overtook Spotify in usage, Apple has a pretty good chance of gaining significant streaming music marketshare simply by being built-in to iOS. It doesn't have to be the best if it's the easiest. Good enough is good enough. Unfortunate as that may be.
It has 18% of U.S. traffic. Also, if your core demographic uses Bing. Think about this scenario: An older person gets a PC. They don't change any settings. This means their primary browser is IE and their search bar is Bing by default. At least that's my logic.
XDA has alot going on for the Fire. Also 54% of all android tablets being used are Fires
Imo go to Bestbuy, play with the two, buy one and return it before 30 days to get ur money back. Since restocking fee is gone its basically a free rental
I agree, their phones are top of the line and really offer a premium experience. Not to mention it has always been one of the few flagships out there with a microSD slot and high resolution audio along with the other stuff you mentioned. The Xperia Z series have always been there at the top smartphones list. Ever since the Z1 till now, their phones were always the closest to the 'ideal smartphone' in every aspect.
I definitely feel that people are really under educated about it's capabilities and Sony would be much more popular here if everyone knew about their phones. However 80% of the market share in the us is dominated by Apple, Samsung and LG, leaving all the other companies with what's left so it makes sense as to why they don't bother trying to get in and dominate the market in the US. I think they can get in if they improve their tactics and marketing strategies.
Oh definitely valid. They are quite representative of their time.
Looking at the newest comScore release and using a rough version of formula they used in the Guardian article, it looks like Apple Maps now has 46.5m users out of the 79.8m iOS users. That leaves roughly 33m users unaccounted for on iOS. Google Maps has 87.3m users and there's 98.2m Android users.
It's not clear how many are using Google Maps on which platform, but the Apple numbers are a little easier to read since Apple Maps only works on iOS. 33m, which by no means is an accurate representation due to iOS version inconsistencies and whatnot, is a solid chunk of users. That's 40% of the platform that has chosen to not use the stock option.
I'm very interested in seeing someone do an in depth analysis of it.
To Apple, the countries that matter are the ones with high GDP*. Think US, Canada, Australia, Western Europe, Northern Europe, Japan. iPhone market share in those regions is quite high and is still growing. Also, to Apple it’s profit share that matters most, not market share, and in that regard they have been the market leader for years; only Samsung comes close.
Anyway, in the US, iPhone has 41% marketshare. In Japan, iPhone has 50% marketshare.
*) China being the exception, Apple is very interested in China’s growing middle class. And its efforts are paying off, revenues from China double every year.
I agree they had potential to be much better, but statistics still show that they are the #1 financial news website in the U.S. It is without a doubt one of Yahoo's most popular services. Despite this though, I'm surprised they never started up a "fantasy stock market" type of service. ESPN has seen tremendous success with their fantasy sports services, and Motley Fool's most popular service is their CAPS game where players bet which stocks outperform the S&P 500. If Yahoo started something like this early, I think they would be lightyears ahead of everyone else, at least for financial websites.
None of your numbers are right. Google the most recent com score numbers if your interested on the latest data.
Edit: googled them myself to make sure I was right, here they are: http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2011/4/Apple_iOS_Platform_Outreaches_Android_by_59_Percent_in_U.S
16 GB is only a problem for those that need more storage and buy it anyway. Having threads and threads about how it is unfair of Apple to not make the 32 GB base is pointless.
If you profile this thread you will see a large number of people for whom 16GB is perfectly adequate.
Apart from the philosophical wanking about how in 2015 32 GB is the bare minimum for a flagship, Where is the data that 32GB is required as the bare minimum?
The latest data suggests that iPhones are taking share from Android phones, including phones that come with 32 GB base storage. Sales of the Galaxy s6 have been lackluster.
Clearly the customers are not upset enough to bail. Other than philosophical debate, what is the problem? Apple clearly is raking it in with the current strategy and laughing all the way to the bank, why would they change it?
The problem with looking at worldwide units is Motorola hasn't tried to market much outside of the U.S. China is the biggest market and they only just started marketing phones there.
Point taken, though... the comScore May 2015 Report shows that Motorola lags at 4.9% of the U.S. market.
Also, for the record... I haven't owned a Motorola phone since the Droid X, but I won't deny that I may have suggested the Moto X to others :)
>Worldwide it does. In the US, Apple has the largest market share.
I think what you're thinking of is apple is the biggest single market share hardware platform (LG vs Moto vs Samsung), not OS platform:
Top Smartphone Platforms 3 Month Avg. Ending Jan. 2015 vs. 3 Month Avg. Ending Oct. 2014 Total U.S. Smartphone Subscribers Age 13+ Source: comScore MobiLens
| Smartphone Platform | Share (%) Oct-14 | Share (%) Jan-15 |
|---|---|---|
| Android | 52.3 | 53.2 |
| Apple | 41.9 | 41.3 |
| MS | 3.5 | 3.6 |
| BlackBerry | 2.1 | 1.8 |
| Symbian | .1 | .1 |
iOS users are also usually more affluent. I don't have hard data, but I'd imagine Tim's podcast is listened to by people in higher income brackets or who hope to be in higher income brackets. Even though Android has a larger market share, iOS may have more users that are interested in the podcast.
> 41 percent of iPhone owners falling in the $100,000+ income segment vs. 24 percent of Android owners
> iPhone only makes up a relatively small fraction of smartphones (15%), Android holds far more (80%).
Source? It looks like you're using statistics that take into account poor country's that rely heavily on the very low end side of Android phones.
edit: This says 25% for Apple and Android at 28%. Here is another.
There were about 60 mil actively used Android smartphones in the US by the end of August according to Comscore. At the same time Eric Schmidt said Google activated 480 mil devices. Considering how slow old version die there must be a lot of devices outside of the US. The majority of Android smartphones are not in the US.
Apple’s Share of Smartphone Market Grows to 1 in 3 Subscribers: http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2012/9/comScore_Reports_July_2012_U.S._Mobile_Subscriber_Market_Share
you gloss over the fact that samsung sells a lot of dumbphones.
This article's entire hook is the results of a ComScore study:
> It gets worse. A ComScore study in April found that 70% of American Android users can't seem to figure out how to use WiFi on their devices.
It's repeated many times in the article as a reason why Android users are clearly dumber than iPhone users. Android is really lame, see.
Instead, let's read the actual ComScore study. It includes actual analysis rather than bullshit stock-baiting fan boy dick riding.
> In the U.S., the increased availability of LTE, 4G and other high-speed data networks currently make it less necessary for smartphone users to offload, but it’s also possible that the diminishing availability of unlimited cellular data plans will eventually push more usage to Wi-Fi.
Some perhaps it's that Android users aren't trained to use WiFi because they don't have to use it. AT&T had a monopoly on the iPhone for a very long time, a time during which their 3G network was effectively dead in many areas. iPhone users HAD to learn to use WiFi effectively to enjoy their phone. Android landed on Tmobile to start and made it's name on Verizon.
>Android still increased its marketshare over iOS - so if Android sales are down, then so are iOS's otherwise iOS's marketshare would have increased relative to Android's, but it didn't.
If these numbers can be believed, then Android's lead over iOS actually decreased in April. The chart indicates that iOS added far more users outright in that month. If you look at the whole quarter, Android's growth was greater than that of iOS, though (and comScore released actual percentages for this).
>If you look at the charts it becomes readily apparent that all of smartphone sales are down, not just Android.
That isn't exactly what the charts indicate. These charts are for new users. If you have an iPhone 4 and upgrade to a 4S, you are not a new user. There certainly seem to be fewer people picking up smartphones for the first time, but that doesn't necessarily mean fewer smartphones sales overall.
Also there doesn't seem to be any apparent decrease in Apple's performance. Apple added more users in March and April 2012 than they did in 2011 while Android added fewer.
If it's not a popular theory (I see a ton of WP7 love on this subreddit), it's probably because the numbers don't support it.
Based on the latest data, Microsoft is still net losing market share each month. That's pretty bad considering they don't have a ton in the first place (now at 4.4%).
Most of the losses are likely from ancient Windows Mobile devices, but overall this isn't painting a very encouraging picture for the platform.
5% of all mobiles, 18% of smartphones. 10% and 28% in the US, respectively (for Q2).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the number of people who own iOS devices (38 million?) is far smaller than the number of people who buy greeting cards, right? Best case, apple's got what, 20% of the market here?
If you look at the number of smartphone subscribers (rather the quarterly sales which is a poor indication of user base), back in around 2012, it was 52-33% (Android: iOS).
More recently (Jan 2017), it's 53-45% (Android: iOS).
Android has remained steady while the iPhone has been gaining from WP and Blackberry/RIM's loss in user base.
You just pulled a totally different stat and tried to call me wrong. I literally said "US marketshare," where it is 40%. There is a big difference in US hardware marketshare, likely the most important metric to Apple's health, and and worldwide OS marketshare. That's apples and oranges.
20 years' ago there were only 130 websites? 1996? Really?
30 years ago there was no internet? What no internet in 1986?
This will have repercussions throughout social media sector, which piggybacked much of their growth on previous apple/phone growth.
iphones + ipad units were down 6%
interestingly reddit/conde nast grew 10M unique visitors in December, but lnkd dropped 4M. http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Market-Rankings/comScore-Ranks-the-Top-50-US-Digital-Media-Properties-for-December-2015
In SUA sunt lideri de piata (nu ca OS, ca tip de telefon). In Europa nu am reusit sa gasesc o sursa mai recenta, dar din anii precedenti par sa fie pe locul 2 dupa Samsung, so I stand corrected.
Cat despre de ce designul lor e factor de diferentiere? Pt ca cei mai multi consumatori nu au educatie tehnica, deci tind sa se ghideze dupa look & feel (si media hype). Desigur, pretul e si el un factor important, de aia e rar ca iPhone sa fie pe primul loc in tari in curs de dezvoltare. Chiar sunt curioasa care e situatia in Romania, nu am gasit nicio statistica mai reliable.
Mie personal imi place designul Apple pt atentia la detalii si materialele din constructie. Discutia aia de pe Quora pe care am pus-o mai sus are multe argumente interesante. In plus, multe detalii pe care Apple le-a implementat prima data (de ex. un singur buton fizic in bara de jos in loc de 3, corp facut din aluminiu) sunt acum copiate de alti producatori de telefoane. Desigur, nu mi-as cumpara un smartphone doar pentru atat, dar asta nu inseamna ca nu pot sa apreciez ce e bine facut la el.
> Android ranked as the top smartphone platform in April with 52.2 percent market share, followed by Apple with 43.1 percent (up 1.8 percentage points from January), Microsoft with 3 percent, BlackBerry with 1.5 percent and Symbian with 0.1 percent.
I believe it's down to 2.6% now actually
Search share by site:
| Search Engine | June 2015 |
|---|---|
| 64% | |
| Bing | 33%* |
*Combining Bing and Yahoo since Bing powers both results
Will you make an Android version?
That's not what the article says. The article says that iPhone users upgrade more often than Android users, which is not surprising as they're wealthier on average.
comScore's numbers put iOS at 42% and Android at 52% in the US as of March 2015. The upswing is normal in the beginning of the year as that's when more people upgrade to the new iPhone. Spring is when Android creeps up due to the Samsung, LG, and HTC release cycles.
I'd love to see the demographic data for those numbers.
edit, wow, i'm really surprised how many young people still tune in http://www.comscore.com/ita/Insights/Blog/Oscar-Efforts-Successfully-Court-Younger-Demographics-Online
> What would be the point? They already have a perfectly capable OS.
Well from what I've read, Windows phone has an almost non-existant marketshare. And from what I have heard, Windows Phone has a limited selection of apps and their app store is also plagued with scams and knockoffs.
So if Microsoft made their own version of Android but infused it with some of their own apps, they could promote their own services and sell phones that have general app support.
> Android is quickly reaching monopoly territory.
It is? Granted this is only the US marketshare, but in discussion of US monopoly law that's really all that's relevant. Android isn't even close to the level of marketshare that Microsoft had when this ruling occurred (which was like 95%).
> but it will dominate the smartwatch market. In fact, it will sell multiple times more than all other smartwatches currently on the market combined.
I agree that it will likely outsell other individual smartwatches, in the same way the iPhone outsells any other individual phone maker, even if it doesn't hold a majority of the market. But the built-in restriction of only working with iPhones reminds me a bit of the market position the iPod started in, being limited to syncing with Macs. Bit of a double edged sword there - makes it less appealing to 60% of smartphone owners, but means you're even less likely to leave the ecosystem if you'd also be giving up your Apple Watch in the process.
I want to make something that takes advantage of the explosive growth of mobile and tablet commerce. As this graph shows, mobile (and primarily tablet) commerce growth is the dominant sector in this segment.
I am currently envisioning something like Tindr for clothes shopping, that learns what kind of recommendations to make after awhile, but I don't want to commit too fully until I have more time for market validation.
Actually over half of all Americans have a smartphone and that number is growing, up 3 percent from end of April through July.
July 2013 webrankings:
1 Yahoo! Sites 196,564
2 Google Sites 192,251
3 Microsoft Sites 179,595
Yahoo not only still does search, it occasionally outperforms google in total monthly visitors. Even when it doesn't it is always in the top 4 websites world wide.
Actually, it's continued to beat Google consistently. Here's the report from January 2014.
It shows Yahoo at 192,121,000 unique visitors, while Google had 189,226,000.
To put that in numbers: Eric Schmidt announced there are 480mil Android devices now and also made a remark that comScore numbers are correct. According to comScore there were 59.5mil Android smartphones in the US by the end of July. If you account for growth and the small number of Android tablets in the US, my guess there are about 65mil Android devices in the US now.
By releasing US-only services Google caters to 65mil people while ignoring 415mil.
Apple isn't even second, they're third. LG is second.
However, that accounts for all phones. It is still very true that the iPhone is best selling single phone, compared to any other single phone, by far. In fact, the top three selling smartphones in the US to date are the iPhone 4s, the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 3Gs.
Still, making the assertion that most people have iPhones just isn't true.
A lot. According to comScore Android runs on 50.1% of 104 mil smartphones in the US. I think not many people are on their second Android phone, so the number of Android activations in the US must be less than 100 mil. On the other hand there were more than 300 mil Android activations worldwide. So more than 2/3 of Android phones are outside of the US.
- Personally I am not a fan of QR codes i know it was mentioned in your first post alot but I just needed to voice my concern on it here is some data on QR codes. As you can see most do not bother with them and buisness cards were rated one of the lowest places where they had been scanned.
- I would move the marketing or design text to over above your info or change it to a job title. People will like to see that there is structure to your company and not just a a couple of people sitting around saying ill take marketing and you take design. I also think having it there makes your url a little confusing some might think marketing or design is part of the URL
- visually though they look great, and QR code does look good, but I think it comes down to making the site they go to engaging or exciting. If they took the time to pull out their phone and load up the QR scanner and shoot it and its just a website with text they're going to be a bit disappointed and think "well i couldve just typed this in."
Dont worry I missed your first comment because I was at work.
In Canada, RIM is still the leading smartphone, which means (in theory) 38% of my friends have blackberries. I'll be honest and say that number is most likely higher than what it says. I was also talking to a customer who worked for RIM and he claimed that he was on a project for rim to bring the BIS/BES servers to AOS and iOS, so they will bring BBM (and other services) to the other OSs
Ive had almost every BBM-like application on my BB but its just not the same.
The keyboard is not that big of an issue, i've been getting used to touch screens on my Galaxy and the Galaxy Nexus at work. and i've tried the XT860 and the keyboard just doesn't seem right, yet so many people love the droid 3.
I guess my next step will be to wait it out for when RIM releases the new ~~QNX/BBX/~~BB10 phones and see how good the OS is especially with the android apps on it.
Clicking is somewhat relative to nationality - but the average is about 0,1% with standard banners
Though the 0,1% is somewhat distorted. Yeah I work with these things.
Phones. Note that the market share percentage details aren't even that important, what matters is
- Apple's share is not near an overwhelming majority.
- Apple's share is stagnant.
- Most everybody has or will have a smartphone of some kind.
This is a grow-or-die market until one platform becomes dominant. Of the (charitably) 5 players, Symbian is dead and lingering on surviving handsets, RIM is heading for the basement on a rocket sled, MS has hit bottom and persisting off of suckers on 2 year contracts, Apple is flatlined, and Android is going up at a 45 degree angle.
> ... what iOS users do.
I'll grant you that APPL owns the tablet market, sans research or citations. So what? Tablets are much less pervasive than phones, and there is no bottom feeder market to capitalize on either.
Edit to add: here is a page that graphs out the past couple of years of the smartphone market.
1-Via ComScore: Hulu ad metrics compared to other video sites
Know it's not directly related to the CPM, but may be useful in showing how it might be priced compared to other online advertising methods (much, much higher). Hope it helps.
> He still wants Apple products to have that 'designer price tag'
While their computers are more expensive than the average PC, iOS products do not have a "designer price tag". They are in the same price range as any comparable smartphone.
> To get more market share, iOS needs to be on more devices, but Jobs is way too much of a control freak to allow 3rd parties access to iOS. Thus, the only way he has left to gain market share is elimination of his rivals and his biggest one is Android.
Are you joking? How about be on more carriers. The number of phones available does not matter. It is the number of carriers that the iPhone is on that matters. According to this as of January 2011 (which is per Verizon iPhone) Apple had approx. 25% of the U.S. smartphone market! With one carrier selling the phone, 25% of all the smartphones in the U.S. were iPhones. That is ridiculous. Android was on all 4 major carriers and the regional carriers and had 31% of the market. Now, I'm not saying that 31% of the market is something to scoff at, but you can't deny that when Apple has a quarter of the market with very limited availability that is very impressive. There is tons of available market growth for both iOS and Android. If you think either of those OSes have reached maximum growth you would be wrong. I would honestly like someone argue that if T-Mobile and Sprint started carrying the iPhone tomorrow that there wouldn't be a large number of current Android owners running out to buy an iPhone. Hang out in a T-Mobile store for a day and count the number of times employees are asked when they are going to get the iPhone; I'm sure Sprint is no different.
iOS devices are more popular than android devices (iPad and iPod touch, remember?). Sorry to burst your bubble there...
I'm always surprised when I see fanboys like you. Are you really that insecure about your buying decision?
sorry Slayerboy - it's a completely unintentional bug. In fact the first I'm hearing of it.
I read an article yesterday that said 8% of all internet users account for 85% percent of 'ad clicks'
I must admit that I'm well within the 8% I quite like ads because they help me find quality products, but thats a different discussion. And it clearly makes me a bit of a freak :)
Here's a link to the article: http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2009/10/comScore_and_Starcom_USA_Release_Updated_Natural_Born_Clickers_Study_Showing_50_Percent_Drop_in_Number_of_U.S._Internet_Users_Who_Click_on_Display_Ads
Podcasts are listened to on a monthly basis by ~20% of the US population. Sure, they don't reach as wide an audience as other forms of media, but saying something isn't popular just because something else is more popular is asinine. The amount of downloads on the most popular podcasts reflect that it is a non-insignificant form of media.
> still people out there who use bing
Bing has had steadily increasing marketshare for something like ~40 quarters in a row.
Bing powers 31.9% of all searches - 21.4% are from Bing.com.
Should Apple have packed up shop because they only have 20% of the PC market?
Why would MS give up Bing when they have 21% of the Desktop Search market with a product that brings in $1Billion revenue quarterly?
Enough with all the revisionist history in this thread. Nokia was not a top player, they had a 9% marketshare and falling in early 2010 and it was only worse by the time Elop and the Burning Platform memo came around later that year.
Nokia getting 7 billion for what is worthless today, and even then only offered the prospect of maybe competing in a market of ever slimmer margins even for the winner was a huge win for them.
>They were near-universal by 2010, just three years after the launch of the original iPhone.
Smartphones had a 22% market share worldwide in 2010. And one third of those where Symbian phones, which people that believe the iPhone was the first smartphone didn't even consider those to be smartphones.
http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2011/02/smartphone_sale.html
If you are talking about the US, in Q4 2010 there were 234 million total mobile owners, but only 63.2 million smartphone owners.
So, you see, not even close to near-universal.
Sure, smartphone adoption was way faster than many other historical examples of previous technology, but not as fast as many people think.
>In these countries, the market share of iOS is higher.
That likely isn't the case in the United States, at least.
Apple's marketing is genius because it creates the illusion that everyone uses their products, essentially fabricating a social norm ex nihilo. Android is still hanging on to the majority of the market share here, but everyone thinks that everyone uses iOS. In the U.S., it's probably true that "everyone thinks that everyone uses Apple."
Because Apple's products are more expensive, I would argue they are more likely to be adopted first by more well-to-do members of society. Since we tend to hang out with people that are of our own socioeconomic class, those that use iPhones primarily hang out with other people who use iPhones. I would further argue that Apple prominently branding every piece of merchandise they sell makes their products stand out, reinforcing social norming.. (There's a reason the Apple Pencil is bright white, and it doesn't have anything to do with the user experience.) All this makes Apple look like it surrounds us when it demonstrably does not.
While Google is the dominant search engine, it certainly does not have a monopoly in the market. Google's success can be attributed to its great design. Its competitors offered services that could not compete and thus people used Google search. If Bing and Yahoo and others were to step up their games they'd see their numbers go up. Actually, Bing has seen some recent success.
> This might fragment some of the social communities, but really it would be better if something like YouTube was split into 2 or 3 different video services, for example, like when the Bells were split up.
YouTube does have its competitors. There's Vessel, Dailymotion, Vimeo, Yahoo Videos, etc. People do use the other services. There's no need to break up YouTube when the market already has competition.
> it would actually be less biased than a corporate engine.
Just use Duckduckgo. It's pretty good and it already exists. There's no need for the government to build and maintain its own search engine. That would be a waste of money - private companies do a pretty good job already.
> But I'm 24
Yes but
Eleven percent of all Americans who use mobile phones use Snapchat. And 71 percent of Snapchat users are under 34 years old, and 45 percent of them are in that 18-24 demographic.
Really not that big of a stretch
we (a publisher) already have their pixel down on our page so we are (theoretically) already included in rankings when advertisers look at comScore data. I wanted to know if anyone has found that, as a publisher, you are NOT being listed or being listed IMPROPERLY because you aren't paying comScore to see your data.
I already know paying them just to see the data is useless because you can't target it in DFP (though this announcement today may change that http://www.comscore.com/Products/Advertising-Analytics/validated-Campaign-Essentials-2/vCE-in-DoubleClick#buyers-and-sellers), especially since we already have a DMP that allows us to see data on our site AND target it for advertisers.
I think the two companies are Apple and Samsung.
Apple has 41.3% and Samsung has 29.3%, combined 70.6% of the US smartphone market. Samsung uses android on their devices but google designed phones don't have a large market share.
Edit google has worked with a couple handset manufactures to build google's flagship devices but I think for the most part they are alterations of other models.
Not sure how reliable Comscore is, but they are pegging Apple at 42.6% in the US as of a few months ago:
There's no doubt there's a lot of Apple users. comScore puts the US numbers around 80 million to Android's near 100 million. But there obviously aren't that many music subscribers. I mean Spotify has 60 million users world wide and that's spread out across both Apple and Android. 45 million of those users stick to the free tier of Spotify because that's the best option for free streaming right now. That leaves 15 million paid Spotify subscribers. Even if you split the number straight down the middle and assume half are on Android and half are on iOS, that's only 7.5 million. If we assume a very generous 50% switch, Apple ends up with a little less than 4 million subscribers from Spotify.
Apple will definitely have to cater to those who aren't currently streaming music. I think it'll be very hard to sell the free tier of Spotify users on Apple Music. If I was a free user, I would see absolutely no reason for me to switch when Spotify is giving me what I want at no cost. I'm sure they'll get some users who will switch from the free tier, but I personally don't see Spotify's user base taking a giant hit simply because there isn't much to take from. Sure, 4 million is a large number, but that's using very broad assumptions.
But more people have computers than ever.
Stats like this are misleading because it only compares desktop-only internet access with mobile-only internet access.
I have a desktop AND a smartphone, so I wouldn't even be on this list. Obviously there will be a lot of people with phone internet access because hardly anyone owns a cell phone that isn't a smartphone.
Dos Apple's financials include where the iPhones sales are? I'm curious to see how much of their sales are in international markets.
Smartphone penetration is about 75% in the US. It looks like a lot of the 25% without smartphones are in the 55+ age group who might never by a smartphone. I wonder how much Apple can rely on people consistently upgrading their iPhones to maintain sales.
I question this data. I'm pretty sure there are more Android phones in use than iPhones in the US. http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Market-Rankings/comScore-Reports-March-2015-US-Smartphone-Subscriber-Market-Share
Edit, nevermind, didn't see that this data was including tablets as well.
I never claimed to be a business guru, but this has nothing to do with business. My original comment was simply that Samsung dominates the mainstream, which is true. Prove me wrong. Who is outselling them?
Funny story here -- this is easily the most common comment to anything I post about Bing. The crazy part is that, according to comscore, close to 20% of the searches in the U.S. on desktop are on Bing. So I guess that about 1 in 5 people that you see every day are searching on Bing. Who would have thunk it?
You are right, blackberry doesn't have 4%, only 1.8% of the US market. A small number, but still arguably worth it. I was overestimating with 5-10% development allocation - obviously once the build for the android OS is ready, it just takes a small amount of QA and a developer to make small (assumably) tweaks - not anywhere near 10% of the effort needed to code the actual android app.
They do mean something, assuming people with the toolbar constitute a random sample of internet users.
Last month reddit reported 160 mln unique visitors. That should be around 120 mln from the US, based on demographics from last year. Thats as many as Twitter had in August of last year. Thats insane.
> At least for Nexuses, which are really the only Android devices worth talking about.
What percentage of Android devices on the market are Nexus phones/tablets though? Samsung has the biggest slice of the market after Apple. The last Nexus device they made was the Nexus 10. The last Nexus phone they made was the Galaxy Nexus. Everyone else has under 10% of the market.
Basically, what you're saying is that the only Android devices worth talking about are probably some of the least common on the market.
It doesn't. Apple has the largest share among manufacturers and iOS is about 10% behind Android in terms of platforms.
Actually it's significantly higher than that. Bing has 20% in the US and they also power Yahoo which puts them at a total of over 30%
This article is from 2011 and Bing has taken share from Google every single month since its launch
Its from 2011.
Its now ~19.4%.
I work in IT and have no idea why you would base your information on clueless users. The search market hardly revolves around whatever 50-5,000 users you work with.
Apple may have ~40% of the device marketshare in the US when going by manufacturer, but when going by OS, Android devices account for ~52% of smartphone devices in the US.
If you venture outside the US, Apple is struggling to get a foothold with Western Europe being one of the few places they appear to be doing fairly well. It'll be interesting to see how they try to change that, especially since Apple Pay will have a harder time taking off outside the US.
Posted this in another thread, but this one seems to be more active.
I want to make something that takes advantage of the explosive growth of mobile and tablet commerce. As this graph shows, mobile (and primarily tablet) commerce growth is the dominant sector in this segment.
I am currently envisioning something like Tindr for clothes shopping, that learns what kind of recommendations to make after awhile, but I don't want to commit too fully until I have more time for market validation.
He's off on the numbers but Android does have higher market share in the US. Apple is the largest single smartphone company, but for the OS overall it is 52% Android vs 42% iOS.
Apple does have a particularly high market share in the US but AFAIK the only country they have majority market share in is Japan.
I wasn’t talking about market share. The last couple of years, Apple and Android have both mostly been stealing market share from Symbian and Blackberry.
I was talking about retention (eg. customer loyalty). IPhone owners are by far the most loyal, they come back time after time.
Also, iPhone marketshare continues to grow in its main markets (US, UK, Japan, Australia, China) year over year.
I partially agree. Android does have a broad spectrum of more affordable phones, but the numbers aren't as staggering as they once were. iOS has ~42% of the market, and Android has ~52% according to ComScore.
It would be really awesome if iOS could get a more official wallet!
What matters?? To what, to who? I don't care what matters, Apple can do whatever the hell they want. I'm not fanboy defending apple or samsung or any other OEM. They can all run their businesses however they want. I was just pointing out that you made an extremely dubious claim:
> Apple is gaining marketshare in the United States.
As far as I can tell, you said that because of this chart: http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2014/07/comscoregraph.jpg
From this blog post: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/03/apple-comscore-gains/
Which is about this report from ComScore: http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Market-Rankings/comScore-Reports-May-2014-U.S.-Smartphone-Subscriber-Market-Share
But that chart isn't in that report. And that chart isn't cited and no source is given (I also couldn't find the original in a reverse image search). It also doesn't look like an actual mobile market share chart, there isn't nearly enough volatility. Like I said, this is either a complete fabrication (ie. "I think the iPhone's marketshare kind of looks like this"), or it's data from a different kind of survey besides the ComScore data from the rest of the post, or it's using ComScore data, but is using some kind of unusual data smoothing/massaging.
Basically, every chart I've seen of iOS's US market share over the last 5 years has shown a slow decline with a couple peaks around new releases. The overall trend is almost certainly down. The only piece of evidence I've seen to contradict it is this chart. I'm not sure how anyone who pays attention to technology news could assume that this (uncited) chart is correct and everything else is wrong.
You seem to love Apple and think they're great and that they're growing mobile market share in the US is proof of that. And then when it seems like maybe it's not actually growing, you want to argue that profit is what matters (to what? "How great a company is"??).