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Definitely USB Audio Player Pro IMHO
Has a great bit perfect mode and converts FLAC and DSD. I have tried Power Amp v3 and Neutron as well - this is the best.
Am using with a Nextdrive Spectra X USB C and Denon D7200s on a Samsung Note 20 Ultra. That 1TB micro SD support sure holds a lot of hi res music lol
You'll want something that is capable of producing the quality your hardware is capable of.
Apps like this bypass the Android audio system for better quality for example. Tidal and others deliver very good quality too when the software supports it properly. MQA is a good indication that it does.
Android outputs all audio at 48khz by default. Usb Audio Player Pro bypasses Android's built audio drivers with its owner to render music at its native frequency and sample rate, provided its within the limits of the dac.
It's important to note that the effects of the app only works with music played within the app. So most outside streaming audio programs won't benefit from the app unless you use its built in UPnP/DLNA functionality. UAPP does include native support for Tidal, Shoutcast Radio, and Quboz streaming.
Neutron Player would also be a good option and will bypass Androids usb audio drivers.
I posted a little more information about each program in this thread if you want to check it out.
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"Caption: With UAPP driver, the Shield can decode DXD or DSD files up to 176.4khz. By default, Android will resample every audio to 44.1khz. Only the built-in Chromecast has 24bit 192khz
We seem to agree on MQA.
I do almost all my listening on headphones now. I live in a Brooklyn apartment and just can't listen like I want to after 7 or so.
The primary reason I chose Tidal is that it integrates with this app:
The app bypasses any processing by my phone and sends the signal straight to the DAC. There are several apps that bypass the phone's internals, but none that incorporate a lossless music service.
The way I play it on my system is stream it from my phone to a chromecast, HDMI into my DAC. I have thought about Roon, but can't find a compelling reason to use it.
Yeah they are quiet safe sounding, they could benefit from an eq for a treble increase.
If you want to eq them, try using the UAPP app, it will connect to your Tidal account for you and let you EQ it within the app. Letting you keep the LDAC codec.
The Sony Headphones app has too few options for EQing.
USB audio player pro had a load of audio options. I've heard good things but I'm currently using Retro ( for the magnificent UI) until the updated Poweramp UI is released in April, ^no ^year ^specified.
On a side note how's the G5 for you, I hated that phone, I still miss the AOD and wide angle camera but I just couldn't deal with the issues.
What device are you playing from? If it's a Mac, OSX has an "Audio MIDI Setup" app that lets you explicitly set the data rate. But you shouldn't set the data rate as high as possible. This will force the OS to interpolate the data to the higher bit rate - a job that the DAC should be doing.
Ideally you should be sending the DAC the raw data stream with as little manipulation as possible. One of the reasons why I like the Vox Music Player is that it's got a "Synchronize Sample Rate With Player" option that makes sure the DAC is getting its data at the format-native rate. USB Audio Player Pro also has a "Bit Perfect USB Audio" option that does this on Android.
UAPP is a media player for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en
The Dragon Fly has hardware volume control (defaults to 25) which Android doesn't access natively on many phones, meaning it's stuck at 25% volume max.
UAPP can access the hardware volume, so start a song in it, put the Dragonfly volume to 100 and exit UAPP - volume is now fixed on the unit.
Hav*e* you tried using a custom ROM like LineageOS? I'm sure your device has the physical capability to play from extSD, so it must be software related...
EDIT: Goddamn, I'm an idiot. i thought you were having problems playing from SD card. Disregard pretty much everything I've said. This is the app you're looking for.
I just plug it in and it works! However not all compatible DACs work out of the box, if you check the head fi forums there is a topic on DACs and Android devices.
Also, check this app : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro
Was using Poweramp but since I got an external DAC I've been using eXtream's USB Audio Player PRO.
Personally I feel the on-board DAC is shite so I didn't mind shelling out a couple of quid for better quality sound.
Why can't you just plug your android phone in directly and copy the AIFF files over ?
USBAPP plays them:
No doubt there are others.
Is it the 3rd gen X5 or the 1st? I felt the same, felt like I wasted hundreds, and was disappointed. Now I would never ever buy another DAP until this one falls apart or I am absurdly rich. And even then.. I am so happy I don't want the effort of swapping.
If it's 3rd:
Step 1: download the custom kernel fix for the X5iii !!! It basically fixed ALL of my issues, don't bother with the super overclocked versions, pick the safe bet. I have never had any lag EVER since.
Custom Kernel for Fiio link
Step 2: Then buck up and pay the money for software, the USB Audio Player Pro has really been flawless for me:
USB Audio Player Pro
Oh. I'm sorry i have no experience with the Fiio IEM's you listed.
But, i would still recommend the app "USB Audio Player Pro" available on Google Playstore (8$). It has a built in Graphic & Parametric EQ, and you can stream Tidal within the APP (note that you cannot download tracks from Tidal for Offline listening).
If you do want to go for an IEM ~~upgrade~~ Sidegrade, I would recommend the Fiio FH3 Eclipse ^((I solely recommend this because it is tuned by Crinacle, i personally find Crinacle's audio reviews trustworthy, that is to say that his views and mine align for the iem's i have owned))
which app do you use to play ? because android will sample it unless ur using some combination of drivers, etc.
can you try and check with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en_IN&gl=US as well ? and of course the OTG if you have one.
The OS will resample by default. You will want to try an app such as USB Audio Player Pro https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en_US&gl=US which uses it's own player instead of the OS default.
If you are not exclusively listening to Spotify,Deezer and other music streaming apps, and if you have CD albums or Lossless copy of your favorite music that you can store in your phone, you can use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro
It has 10 band PEQ.
What headphones are you trying to power?
Apple's adapter is okay. The only issue is by default the volume is at 60% or something. You can't adjust this higher without USB audio player pro. Pretty much, connect the USB c adapter to phone, launch happy, turn the hardware volume to 100%, then close uapp and use whatever.
I've never used the Fiio music app if that's what you're talking about. Unaware of a fiio audio driver for android.
Stock android drivers cap audio at 48KHz (iirc), and anything above that is resampled back down to 48KHz, reducing quality even further than if it was a native 48KHz track to begin with.
UAPP (USB Audio Player Pro) is an app. Uses it's own audio drivers and has a "bit perfect" mode which will output the audio signal at whatever the DAC supports. It's got a bunch of other cool little features as well. The interface is a bit dated, but works fine. It'll only work with Qobuz and Tidal though. It does cost like $7, but well worth it if you use either of the aforementioned services or have your own lossless audio files, and plan to use a USB DAC.
If you side load this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en_CA&gl=US you should be able to plug into a DAC with USB and get full fidelity.
If you are an audiophile or just want the best quality there's only one app available and it's totally worth it! UAPP or USB Audio Player Pro is every audiophile's choice .
I have both Poweramp and UAPP and when you enable the "Bypass system EQ and Dolby" under Internal HiRes audio it takes the quality to another level.
So much more than everything out there and the app even has a Parametric EQ that is worth the add-on since it's fully customizable.
Well then it's probably worth it to mention that you can in fact use it with Android provided you use an app like this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en_US&gl=US
I recently got the FiiO M11. It’s awesome. You can also install the Google Play Store, so you can get any music player you want. Google Play Store Install Instructions.
I am not a fan of the stock FiiO music app. I like USB Audio Player PRO.
Tidal for Android uses the Android audio - everything is resampled to 16 bit 48.000hz . To really hear the difference use USB Audio Player Pro
I suggest you disable "Loudness normalization" witch is under My Collection (bottom down) - Settings (Gear icon top right) . Also if you want to take things a step forward Tidal sounds better and louder on UAPP witch tunes right into the DAC.
Instantaneous lossless audio for $20/month, and it integrates with this app on my phone:
The search function sucks and MQA is a gimmick.
you can do the exact same thing with usb audio player pro
There a several more I can't recall off the top of my head. but this has Tidal instead of Spotify (which I prefer being the same price)
Saw this, didn't realize it was you from the other thread. I'll repost this as well:
The primary reason I chose Tidal is that it integrates with this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en_US
The app bypasses any processing by my phone and sends the signal straight to the DAC. There are several apps that bypass the phone's internals, but none that incorporate a lossless music service.
EDIT - copied from the web:
Qobuz has a terrible quality control, and many of the so-called "masters" that are on the service are actually poor quality digital captures published by the french national library (BNF), from when it had its entire vinyl library digitized by a Belgian company about 5 or 6 years ago. Those BNF titles have been digitized in a a rushed studio, and they sound terrible, even compared to vinyl rips published on Youtube. In practice, the titles released in high resolution are those published by the main music publishers, and they should be roughly be the same for Qobuz and Tidal (or other services, obviously).
Qobuz is a much more "messy" than Tidal, e.g. Qobuz tends to keep several variations and successive remasters of the same titles, which makes very cumbersome and annoying for the subscribers. In addition, some titles "disappear" of the main library for no particular reason, and sometimes they re-"appear" in the library, so maintaining a collection of playlists can be challenging sometimes.
Chromecast supports lossless from Tidal and Amazon. How I use it on my system is the android app to chromecast, chromecast HDMI intro my DAC.
Chromecast supports Amazon HD music (16/44 - cd quality), but not Ultra HD, which is high-resolution.
Now the issue becomes Chromecast vs Chromecase ultra, and whether Amazon supports Chromecast. Chromecase Ultra supports FLAC up to 96kHz/24-bit, which is high-res. But I don't know if Amazon will cast that resolution to the Ultra.
My DAC does not display sample rate and bit depth when decoding. Many do, and perhaps someone who has one can experiment.
I do most of my listening on android to a portable DAC to headphones. The reason I settled on Tidal is that this app incorporates Tidal, therefore bypassing the android circuitry and giving me a cleaner signal via USB C.
On Android try USB Audio Player. It's pretty expensive but they also have a trial version. On Linux the chances are very slim even with Wine or other emulators the audio is done by the built-in alsamixer or pulseaudio.
I have a s20 and use an apple dongle. I went the UAPP way and the volume boost was really good. The first section of this article explains how to reach the full volume with this app and also has a link to the reason this happens.
A way to test the full volume of the usb dongle is to plug it in a laptop and see whether it will be loud enough for you. If it is you can then see whether it is justified to buy the app as it's a relatively expensive one. I guess you can also buy and then refund it if it's not working well for you.
Disclaimer: I'm not trying to advertise this specific app, but it is the one that worked for me. There might be other apps that achieve the same.
You will hear a quality difference. From the Tidal app itself.
Now the following part is just extra, you can try it if you feel like it.
Try downloading the Poweramp player trial version and check if the app can detect "Hi-Res driver" (or something along those lines).
If yes, then you can purchase USB audio player pro UAPP and stream Tidal from this player to get the most bit perfect audio.
Android upsamples all it's audio to 48khz, some players such as the UAPP, have its own drivers to circumvent this upsampling and output the unaltered source audio (44.1Khz on most songs in Tidal) .
The sound will be marginally cleaner, since you have a good pair of IEM'S i recommend this.
USB audio Player pro.
It's an app which bypasses Android's native audio processing (upsamples everything to 48khz, or some other. The point is they upsamples everything) and output directly to a USB DAC connected to your Android phone.
Much much better sound quality than native android.
MQA core decoding (only one unfolding to 24 bit 96khz) with an in app purchase. If your DAC supports native MQA unfolding then it gets fully unfolded fully (upto 19x khz).
You can sign into your tidal account within the UAPP app, and stream music through this method.
It's not a polished UI as the native tidal app. But the sound quality is way better.
But you have to have a USB DAC, or at least an active USB-C to 3.5mm dongle to take advantage of this app.
One possible solution is to use a DAP that runs full Android or an Android phone. The key here is access to UAPP(USB Audio Player Pro https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro) . It allows you to sort by album artist
It is not due to power output but Android restrictions. The max volume can't be set in default Android unless you root it or there is some player on Playstore that controls USB connected DACs.
/u/Proteinsaurus If you can't root it, this app might help
USB Audio Player
They are talking about this app, most likely: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en_US
I don't have experience with it, and I don't know if it requires root to adjust that. Otherwise just pop down to a Best Buy and pick up the Google adapter :P
If you play flac files or high bitrate mp3 you'll notice the difference. Poweramp is ok but uses its own driver. UAPP bypasses any software and hardware when it detects an external DAC
USB Audio Player Pro. The only con about it is that it is a paid app but well worth every penny.
You can read more about it here: https://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/products/usb-audio-player-pro
Play Store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl
That's a good question. Given the limited number of apps that support it, I imagine the cause involves a major or undocumented API change that's a well-kept secret.
You may be interested in keeping an eye on USB Audio Player PRO with the Parametric EQ IAP. It currently supports streaming Google Music, Tidal (including Tidal Masters), Qobuz and Shoutcast.
Here you go. It's not a free app, but I think it's well worth the money.
Currently, all of your audio is being processed by Android software, THEN it's handed over to the Quad DAC for it to do its magic. From what I understand, and can hear, it's a small decrease in audio quality, as well as slightly more battery drain.
UAPP, while having a wonky UI, allows you to log in to Tidal and stream through the UAPP app itself. This provides the benefit of bypassing Android processing, which the Tidal app cannot do. At first, I thought the app a bit cumbersome, but now I really enjoy it. I like that I can create a playlist with tracks from my library as well as streamed tracks from Tidal. UAPP cannot, however, play from your downloaded Tidal library. Anything that Tidal has stored for offline can't be accessed by UAPP, so it will be streamed instead.
Now, the real question, which I cannot answer, is... does the T2 require this much setup? Will it be able to tell the difference? I truly have no clue, so that's up to your experimentation and ears to find out. Good luck!!! :D
Just about the question if the DragonFly can bypass the phones DAC I contacted the company that builds the DAC.
Their reply: "99,9995% of all phones have a DAC onboard that is not build with high quality audio in mind.
When you connect your DragonFly, the phone should switch off its own DAC and forward sound to the DragonFly.
The other part of a great hi-fi experience is the media player. The UAPP is a very nice one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en"
So with that my question remains. Whats better? The Sony-Build-in-DAC (via Bluetooth) or the DragonFly and connected with cable to the same headphones?
I would guess its a lot better with the DragonFly DAC.
I think that equalizer is for the Quad DAC only you can get access one of two ways. Use some high impedence headphones 40 ohms or more, or use UAPP and set audio device to DAC (not android)
If you're serious about audio the app I use for non-streaming (my hard copies) is https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en
Very few apps can output digital audio to a DAC effectively and this one is worth every cent.
Usb Audio Player Pro now supports this. It really shines if you have an integrated (or USB, obviously) Hi-Fi DAC; it supports bypassing the Android audio stack and playing music bit-perfect.
I use USB Audio Player Pro but you need to have external DAC to justify the price $7.99. You can download trial version from developer's website if you want to try it.
I've used it since the early versions. It works quite well. Was a bit feature poor but it has been improving.
Link for the lazy.
You usually need a dedicated usb audio player app to be installed for external DACs to work. Try this or this
USB Audio Player?
Intended for a DAC, but works on it's own.
It's pricy. But you can check out the similar apps in the store.
I had the same problem using a FireFly. You are connecting it through USB correct?
Try this app, it's a demo you have to pay for the full version. It installs the correct USB audio driver to play through USB.
Otherwise I couldn't figure out how to get USB audio working with any app, it only worked with that one. I couldn't find a setting to use USB audio either. Let me know if that works.
Found this thing... not sure it would even work. If it did work, I wonder if it would only work for local media or everything (pandora, spotify, etc)???
I'm not sure what protocol the Q1 supports for audio transmission, but the AOAv2 protocol was deprecated in Android 9 (see https://gromaudio.com/blog/2018/08/android-pixel-users-be-heard/). If this is your issue you'd have to downgrade to Android 8 to make it work.
You might also want to try USB audio player pro (see https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en) if you're comfortable with using a different audio player, but I cannot guarantee that that'll work.
Try UAPP, certainly works with USB DACs.
This was in stock yesterday. So you can keep any eye one this. Its seems to have a higher quality dac (24-bit/192khz) compared to the google one which seems to be 16-bit / *** or relatively close. It also works with headphones that have inline mic and volume controls. There are no reviews for so it is a gamble right now if their included dac sounds good or better than the stock one.
Otherwise you can invest in a usb-c dac/amp which will potentially make you music sound better.
Fio K1- Its one of the most popular and well reviewed portable dacs at the moment.
Dragonfly Red / [Dragonfly Black (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F7L3I14/ref=dp_sp_detail?psc=1) . All the reviews and impressions I've read for these devices are that the Black not bad, but Red completely blows it away in terms of sound quality.
SMSL IDEA / Sabaj Da2 - Made by the same factory and using the same chipset under different brand names. These have also been getting rave reviews due to being sub 100 dacs but have the sound quality of much more expensive dacs. Also both come with usb-c otg cables.
Things to keep in mind are that there are some glitches when some of theses are connected to android phone which have work arounds.
*Hissing or screeching when plugging into phone: Start music first and then plug in dac. Changing the usb mode to midi works for some people as well.
To take full advantage of have a usb dac alot of people recommend this app: USB Audio Player PRO
Also the remote and mic on headphone won't work with these.
EDIT: Here is another usb-c to headphone jack with dac inside.
USB Audio Player PRO has Parametric EQ IAP.
Found a couple fixes
One way is using the UAPP app, but you'd have to do this every time you want to use the dongle
Another is using this Xposed mod and app, a more permanent fix
The best: USB Audio Player PRO
Plays bitperfect tidal with Android. With a Dragonfly Red DAC and high quality IEMs, it sounds amazing.
I've been researching portable dac/amps and here are a few to check out.
Fio K1- Its one of the most popular and well reviewed portable dacs at the moment. 24-bit/96khz dac/amp that is supposed to be well balance with a low noise floor for about $40.
Dragonfly Red / Dragonfly Black . All the reviews and impressions I've read for these devices are that the Black not bad, but Red completely blows it away in terms of sound quality but is also about double the price at around $200.
SMSL IDEA / Sabaj Da2 - Made by the same factory and using the same chipset under different brand names. These have also been getting rave reviews due to being sub 100 dacs but have the sound quality of much more expensive dacs. Also both come with usb-c otg cables. Both seem to be more favorited than the Dragonfly. Both can be found on amazon with the IDEA being a little more expensive than the Da2.
Also the inline remote controls and mic on headphones won't work with these.
To add to your post I've been researching other dongles and USB dacs.
This is the only dongle I see at the moment that is stating is has a good, or least better than stock, dac. It has a 24-bit/192khz dac compared to the google one which seems to be 16-bit/ 48/96 khz? / *** or relatively close. It also works with headphones that have inline mic and volume controls. There are no reviews for so it is a gamble right now if their included dac sounds good or better than the stock one.
The really good news is portable usb-c dac/amps are becoming more popular so even if better quality dacs remain sparse then people still have the option for these.
A few I found that are highly rated in my research other dongle alternatives.
Try this app....I think there is a free one for 15 minutes or something.
With a direct connection via on-the-go cable (USB Audio Player Pro) says a device is attached but that the phone can't drive enough power through the port. According to the JDS Labs (blog) the solution is to use a powered hub. I've tried two different powered hubs including a brand new (Amazon Basics) with a 2.5 Amp power supply, which should be more than enough, but still get no audio from the amp.
I've also tried using (SoundAbout) to force Google Play Music to route through the USB DAC. Doesn't work in host or client mode. Anyone have this working and if so what hardware did you use to bridge from the Nexus 6 to your amp?
You need a USB A - B cable to run it from your PC to DAC, RCA to RCA cables as an interconnect from Dac to AMP. Both of these can be ordered from Schiit, they're called PYST cables under cable type. Or you can look up Monoprice etc on amazon.
For connecting to the phone just get a Female USB to Male Microusb connector and plug it to the end of the USB A - B from the DAC. It should be able to play natively via OTG, if not you'll need an app such as UAPP or Onkyo HF Player. Both are paid, but the onkyo unlocks inside the app. I would recommend the UAPP since it works for streaming apps
I looked at the spec sheet for the magni, it didnt say what output socket that was, But if it's not 3.5mm then its definitely 6.35mm aka 1/4". Some headphones you purchase will come with a 3.5 female to 6.35 male adapter. Check your HE-400i packaging, if it's the same as this video then you can use it with any 3.5mm connector provided that it fits (sometimes the collar is too thick for some adapters)
This is the only one I know of.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro this is the way
USB audio player pro will let you bypass the limit.
It's this app and does not require root.
USB Audio Player PRO is awesome for playing high quality music.
I believe USB Audio Player Pro has the ability to access USB DACs. I think Poweramp Pro also allows USB DAC output.
Usb audio player pro is what I would recommend
There is also hiby player
USB audio player?
USB audio player pro is the best with neutron player
UAPP will also report, as well as ensure that audio is routed to the Quad DAC instead of the Android subsystem.
USB audio player claims it can, I'm not sure how s successful this is our whether you have to be a GPM subscriber.
Seconding UAPP. It's so good.
On linux, DeaDBeeF as a lightweight but full featured player for local music and mopidy for streaming. There are a few good threads on how to skip pulseaudio and have those applications hit alsa directly and/or use jack if you google about a bit.
On Android, I've been playing with USB Audio Player Pro, which has a ton of features/plugins (including headphone correction and parametric eq), supports most spotify/google play/tidal HiRes streaming, and does a good job with USB dacs.
Hopefully we will. The selection is very sparse right now.
Thank you! Do you mean this one? Do I really need to drop 6,99€ to be able to do that?
I was talking about this app, and sorry if that's not the case, again, I meant no bad.
>You need a USB A - B cable to run it from your PC to DAC, RCA to RCA cables as an interconnect from Dac to AMP. Both of these can be ordered from Schiit, they're called PYST cables under cable type. Or you can look up Monoprice etc on amazon.
USB A-B cable, RCA - RCA)
(couldn't find anything shorter other than pyst)
>For connecting to the phone just get a Female USB to Male Microusb connector and plug it to the end of the USB A - B from the DAC. It should be able to play natively via OTG, if not you'll need an app such as UAPP or Onkyo HF Player. Both are paid, but the onkyo unlocks inside the app. I would recommend the UAPP since it works for streaming apps
Female USB-A to male C
>I looked at the spec sheet for the magni, it didnt say what output socket that was, But if it's not 3.5mm then its definitely 6.35mm aka 1/4". Some headphones you purchase will come with a 3.5 female to 6.35 male adapter. Check your HE-400i packaging, if it's the same as this video then you can use it with any 3.5mm connector provided that it fits (sometimes the collar is too thick for some adapters)
It does come with an adapter! Would you check the above to make sure I have everything I'd need? Or recommend other stuff? Thanks!
Try the trial version of https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en to see if playback works.
USB Audio Player PRO