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with an average of
So I used a lot of hard work, and a few voice training exercises.
That's one helpful source.
Try move the resonance of your voice up, so that when you put your hand on your chest, it doesn't vibrate. To do this, you kinda need to learn to basically make your voice resonate up near your throat.
Another thing you need to do, is PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.
I recorded my progress using an app called https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
This app is great, and it's also on iOS. It helps you see your realtime pitch, and what range you're hitting. After constant practice you should see it slowly creep up after 3-4 weeks of daily practice. My voice went from 120Hz to 250Hz after a lot of practice
I wish I could help more, but there isn't any magic solution, the more practice you do, the better you get at it.
r/transvoice isn't a bad place to start. There are some people there who've been through speech therapy, and are happy to share. This is a decent resource as well. If something isn't working, don't be afraid to ask questions, or try a different approach. Also, download a pitch analyzer so you can visualize what you're doing. It really helps.
Edit: And yes, speech language pathologists are extremely expensive. Most people learn from others who've been to one.
Use this app:
I've been using it since August, managed to move both my minimum average and my maximum average way up by reading out textbooks.
On 2016-08-12, my measurements were:
By 2016-12-21, those had changed to:
I am a Data Analyst by profession so I love having access to these figures :D I should point out that I've cherry-picked my worst measurement (I never said I was a good data analyst) from when I started and the best recent measurement.
Back in March/April-ish I had a single professional voice lesson with GenderCare's voice therapist to give me the rough idea and structure to improve, and I've just kept that up without getting any more lessons.
As general advice, enunciate vowels more widely and clearly, and inflect upwards on vowels a lot more often. Cut out as much as bass as you can and read aloud or talk for as long you can while doing so. I practice using texbooks because fiction is a lot harder due to wanting to do voices and switch between narration and dialogue.
I find my voice is much better the next day if I spend 5-10 minutes practicing the night before, and it's a bonus if I can do it in the morning as well but I don't always have the time or remember. I didn't remember to practice last night or this morning, so if you knock 10-20% off my most recent measurement that's probably where I am right now.
I used many miscellaneous youtube videos for advice but didn't stick to their training. I used https://online-voice-recorder.com/ to record and playback my voice just to hear where I was at and then recently I got https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en that to see if I was in the right vocal range ^_^, basically just lots of practice, slowly speaking higher and higher over time, keeping it as my normal speaking voice even when it didn't sound ok.
I'm sorry you're upset by this, but don't lose hope! There are ways to change that result (EDIT: If you want to)! It also doesn't truly mean much given how many people don't fit an average so strict as this.
There's an app like this for android where you can track your progress, as well as analyze minimum and maximum range spikes, which I find is more affirming than just seeing an average measurement. It also has a progress tracker for vocal training purposes! I don't know if it's cross-compatible with other platforms, but it's called Voice Pitch Analyzer.
Link to play store listing: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
Hope this helps!
Obligatory Android link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
I cannot guarantee the same dev wrote this app; but it should be mostly similar in function and usage. (With appropriate UX changes for Android) This app very likely has No Ads according to GPlay & the Exodus report
Exodus report: https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/21883/
1 tracker, one notable permission; (Microphone, this app does exactly what it says on the tin)
I've been using this app for a few months. I went from deep and gravely to effortlessly feminine by just practicing with that app a few times a day. Endurance is a still a bit of an issue, but that just takes using it often and, since I'll be going full time soon, I'll be good there. The key is visualizing how pitch and resonance works. When you talk, feel where the sound is coming from and move it up and back. It's kinda strange, but that's the best way I can describe it. You should feel the source of your voice at the top and rear of your throat.
What are you using to measure your pitch? 280Hz seems very high.
Have a look at an app called Voice Pitch Analyzer (Android. Don't know an Apple equivalent.)
My pitch averages around 217Hz.
there you go :)
Probably "voice pitch analyzer"? Its free and you just read out whatever into it and it gives you a score between male-androgynous-female.
Here is the Play Store link
Bit of advice, use a good external mic and only use the app when you're feeling stable enough.
Which app is this?
Edit: The app used appears to be for iOS. I found one on the Google Play Store called Voice Pitch Analyzer which seems pretty similar.
I just downloaded it and gave it a shot with my normal voice, and a shot trying to speak using a head voice. Images 2-4 is are my normal voice, images 5-7 are head voice.
I totally would not have thought my normal voice is as low as it is. It comes across as pretty nasal and high pitched. You can see the pitch of my voice dropping over time in the head voice attempt, and it sounded pretty 'trans', but I haven't trained my voice at all and I was just trying to keep my voice out of my chest.
I'm actually really good doing voices and imitations in general. I'm pretty sure I could push my voice entirely within the female range in short order, but it sounds pretty breathy in a way that I associate with men trying to do women's voices.
I'd actually be really interested in having some of my cis women friends give this a shot. I have a few friends who are over 6' tall whose voices are fairly deep and still sound unmistakably female. They are basically my voice goals.
I wanted to share my voice progression using the Voice Pitch Analyzer. It's dropped to a passable level, and I'm really excited since my voice was a huge cause of dysphoria and being misgendered. I always thought my voice was low, but clearly not low in a passable way.
I've been on T for about 3 months and some change, and I like seeing progress in the form of data/measurements/numbers. Also, just putting this app out there for those who haven't heard of it (I saw it in an older /r/ftm thread.) who might like seeing data as well.
Have a good day folks!
Voice Pitch Analyzer
Android has Voice Pitch Analyzer though. iOS doesn’t have anything like that (well, except for a subpar clone for $14).
Edit: their FAQ says an Android version is coming soon.
I was using this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en and it said I was in the male range, which confirmed what other friends were saying about me but I wanted something a bit more objective.
congrats on ur progress! i used a voice pitch tracker too just so i could get a more concrete (i.e. not dysphoria-warped) idea of what my voice was actually like pre- and post-T. i found it helped me so much. which app are you using out of curiosity ?
an app i used that i really liked was voice pitch analyzer. not got a clue as to how accurate it is but i liked the graph it spat out as it had the dates at the top. managed to dig out a screenshot showing what the app looks like
I used many miscellaneous youtube videos for advice but didn't stick to their training. I used https://online-voice-recorder.com/ to record and playback my voice just to hear where I was at and then recently I got https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en that to see ifI was in the right vocal range ^_^
I do some voice training and I think my pitch as changed (or at least I am more comfortable at speaking with a lower voice, cannot be 100% sure that it wasn't "reachable" even before the training). On youtube you can find a bunch of tutorial to do that, plus you may want to download the app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en to track progress.
Don't overdo it (exercises are meant to be a few minutes every day, not two hours straight) and stop if you feel pain in your throat (you don't want to ruin your vocal cord). Pair it with some stretching of your neck.
On the internet you can also find a bunch of stuff about which speaking patterns are more typically seen as "manly", you may try to also work on those, I think people notice that more than the pitch sometimes.
This is a great tool. I'm not sure if there's an iPhone version, but I use it a lot myself to practice. As far as outside practicing, I guess make sure that she knows you don't think less of her or anything during the voice training process. One of my major hangups is thinking it has to be perfect before I use it, otherwise people will think I'm weird... So yeah, just affirm her and have her practice a lot, both by herself and around you. The latter will help overcome that fear of judgment.
I used Voice Pitch Analyzer for Android if that's what you have. It's super great and it seems to be developed for trans people and it gives you a nice pretty graph and what you do and where you stack up with typical ranges.
Link to the app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
It seems to be Android only though. You record a 1 minute clip of your voice reading a paragraph, and it analyzes your range.
It is called "Voice Pitch Analyzer"
Here is the Android version
And here is the Apple version
Also, watching voice training videos on YouTube (and maybe even good singing tutorial videos) can help, but only when you are concurrently practicing. Otherwise some of the advice that you find won't make sense. Most importantly, have fun and free yourself~ You don't need to stress yourself out over your voice~
Voice Pitch Analyzer, in the App store and Google Play Store. As others have noted in the thread, it only judges pitch, not resonance which is more important in being gendered correctly.
You can find it on whatever platform your phone is on. It's on the Play Store for Android and the App Store for iPhones.
Edit: I derped for a second and forgot to link the actual link as well. I have an Android so I can only link to the Play Store, but the link is here.
I don't understand English in transvoice either they use some intense terms or things that don't make sense haha.
My advice is to use a voice pitch application like this one daily to see how your pitch improves.
Never clear your throat, always drink water when you feel the need to clear it. Read your favorite book aloud to a recorder, and listen to it after 5 minutes of reading. It helps to hear the playback of your voice not just the pitch analysis. Don't practice too much in 1 day. Start slowly like 30 minutes in the morning and night.
Then the one that really helps is find a female musician to sing along with. Don't stress yourself to get on the high notes, just imitate the sound in a comfortable pitch for yourself. It helps with where to add emphasis during the sentences you speak.
And the huge hint, practice practice practice! Don't skip a day, like exercising you have to teach your muscles in your throat to speak a little different. Eventually it becomes second nature. I haven't dropped pitch in 3 weeks and it is really helping.
Voice Pitch Analyzer, on Google Play. It disappeared from the store once so you may want to keep this link to the GitHub page (Actually links to a Reddit post which includes a link to the GitHub page and its download/release page on GitHub where you can get an APK if Google Play doesn't work.)
Edits: restructuring so the post is not just a bunch of links link.
Voice pitch analyzer.
Basically it makes you read a random text for 1 minute and calculates the frequency, pitch, etc of your voice and if it's in the female/androgen/male range.
Mostly just lots of practice, talking at all times in a higher but none voice straining pitch, then when i got used to it, going higher again, one a week or sometimes more. I used https://online-voice-recorder.com/ for listening to my voice, and https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en voice pitch analyzer for it's name sake. Also look into talking out of your head and not your chest.
One, cute unicorn. Two, if you are able to keep that voice up during the day then you are already pretty far along. It does not sound masculine at all to my ears. But admittedly I am bad at recognizing voice things. But it is not deep.
If you have an android phone you could get the 'Voice pitch analyzer' app. It shows you your estimated pitch and in another screen your progress. As such you can see where your pitch lies and how stable your voice is. :)
Start on voice practice asap. Its easy but time consuming. I use this app.
It has you read off a book into it and analyzes if your voice is in male, female, or andro range. Do some research on how to raise it, female inflection, and reduce vibration and use the app to practice.
Laser is also good to start sooner rather than later.
And yeah, hormones are the typical starting place.
I use Voice Pitch Analyzer on my Android phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
I use Praat on the computer: http://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/
(Sorry for the links; I'm on mobile)
It's not a training app, per sé, but can be used as one. Voice Pitch Analyzer.
Here is a good resource for PC.
Voice Pitch Analyzer (IOS)
Voice Pitch Analyzer (Android)
I am so close. I downloaded an app that helps me with my pitch. It is for Android. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en_INIt is helping out a lot! We will get there sis. All it takes is dedication and determination.
I'm not out yet, and while my parents are probably supportive, I dont feel ready to come out yet, so therapy seems tough.
I've used the Voice Pitch Analyzer app to help me gauge my range. Also, keep in mind that your voice always sounds higher in your head than it does to other people! You might be surprised at how low your voice reads to others compared to what you think :)
I can't really help with personal experience since I lucked out with my voice already sounding like a girl
But I think there should be tutorials on youtube about it?
Edit: there is also an app apparently called Voice Pitch Analyser https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en that might be a useful tool while practising
There are some really good apps out there you can use to practice having a higher voice, I've used this one before and find it pretty straightforward. :)
It's called "Voice Pitch Analyzer". I got it through the google play store but I think apple has a version also.
this app to visualize my voice reading aloud and singing. i have a singing past mostly overtone singing so having some tone control already has helped.
Yep! Voice Pitch Analyzer
The only downside is that it doesn't actually record the audio so you can't hear how your voice has changed, but it's still a really cool resource.
FWIW, I found that it was much easier to practice by talking about random things that I happen to know about, rather than reading a passage. I found that with reading a passage from a book or whatever, I was spending too much time focusing on what I was reading, rather than how I was speaking. Once I figured that out, I ditched that and would just start going on about some topic I have knowledge in. I'd just pretend someone else was in the room and would kind of imagine their side of the discussion, and then I'd "reply". I'm sure it would be super-weird for an outsider to see, but it worked really well for me.
I would use a voice note app on my phone, set to the highest recording quality. Low-quality recordings can give you a false impression of what your voice sounds like, because they often cut a bunch of upper and lower frequencies off. I also used a free Android app called Voice Pitch Analyzer, which helped quite a bit (a quick Google search shows it's also available on iOS.)
Hey there! I think your voice still sounds very low and masculine. Sorry I hope it doesn't sound mean, but just trying to be honest. I think going through some exercises that help extend your pitch would help a lot so you can get to a higher pitch. I personally like these videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5gBKsvSwo
I also recommend getting this app called voice pitch analyzer on the google store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en
The app lets you read a paragraph and then tells you the average pitch. It also shows a graph for male/androgynous/female pitchs and puts your average on there. I think doing the warm up in the youtube videos + reading will help you a lot.
It's not about finding the right way to speak, but about training and stretching the vocal cord. The guy in the video has practice for at least one year, if I remember correctly. Now that your throat hurts, give it some days to heal. You don't want to damage stuff there. When it doesn't hurt anymore, go back to exercises, but do them a bit more gradually. Transition is a marathon, you're in for the long run and so you need to keep it easy.
You can get this app to keep checking your progress: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en
What I do is to exercise in the morning, or after a hot shower. I first massage my neck a bit and then go for some of the exercises you find on youtube. After that, I test my voice with the app and go to work.
Improvements are probably too small for me to notice them (except for the fact that now I am much more confident using a lower tone of voice without being afraid of how I sound), but with the app I can see the slow drop of my voice in time.
I played the audio from my PC speakers (pretty good ones) into the microphone of my Android phone running Voice Pitch Analyser.
There are some tools (e.g. Praat) to directly analyse an audio file on your PC, but I like the visualisations in the Android app.
By the way, I didn't listen to your guy voice. I find that doing so (especially if listened to first) just subconsciously makes you interpret the target voice as fake, so I avoid it.
A lot of the working up to it and practice before showing up at work in my female voice was muscle training.
Teaching the muscles for my head voice to be stronger by following tips I'd read online. One of the big ones I'd read is to swallow or gulp and hold it at the top of your throat.
Otherwise, I'd sing in the car when I was alone and try to bring up my resonance by holding my chest while singing until I felt no vibration in my chest. Then my upper chest, then my lower throat.
Once I felt like I had my resonance down, I was still crazy dysphoric about my voice and didn't want to hear it, but I knew my pitch needed work. Luckily, I found this app that allowed me to work on my pitch without having to hear it (it doesn't play back, just breaks down the range of frequencies from your speech) until I was consistently in a female range. Then it was basically pushing it and gradually improving it on the phone at work.
If you have an Android device (not sure if there's an iPhone verison), you could try this. It keeps a record of the statistics of your attempts and helps your gauge your progress. As far as singing, I have no idea, but I like that little app a lot!
Nice! Don't forget about /r/transvoice on here. Also, I've had some help for myself come from toying with this app. It makes it easier to see where your pitch range is. Keep in mind though, it doesn't take resonance into account.
Stimme kannst du komplett alleine trainieren. Aber es ist natürlich sehr hart und vorallem langwierig.
Tonlage alleine macht auch keine weibliche Stimme aus. Sie hilft natürlich, aber es gibt auch viele CIS Frauen mit niedriger Stimmlage.
Zum trainieren der Stimmlage (ich habe über ein ganzes Jahr gebraucht das stabil in die weibliche Tonlage zu bringen) kann ich an dieser Stelle eine Handy App wärmstens empfehlen. Da kannst du mit üben und dich stückweise verbessern und trainieren.
Hier mal der Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&gl=DE
Aber vorsicht, nicht übertreiben. Wenn du zuviel auf einmal willst machst du die Stimme kaputt.
Ansonsten gibt es andere Dinge die viel wichtiger als die eigentliche Tonlage sind. Dazu zählen Wortwahl, Betonung, Satzmelodie. Frauen nutzen andere Wörter als Männer, sind oft ausschweifender, reden einfach komplett anders. Hier empfehle ich dir, höre genau hin und bekomme ein Gefühl wie Frauen reden. Das kannst du durch Hörbücher, Fernsehen, Filme, Computerspiele oder auch einfach beim Bäcker um die Ecke lernen. Einfach genau hin hören.
Auch mal ein Buch zu lesen, dass von einer Frau geschrieben wurde hilft enorm. Ist mir früher nie aufgefallen aber das ist ein Unterschied wie Tag und Nacht.
Is this the app?
If so, you will be given a paragraph to read. Record yourself reading it. The there will be two tabs. "Text" and "pitch over time".
It's called Voice Pitch Analyzer, I found it on Google Play. It measures your pitch when you read excerpts from The Portrait of Dorian Grey :)
Ich habe meine Stimme DIY trainiert. habe dafür eine App genutzt. Habe mal quietschig gesprochen um zu sehen wo ich hin muss und das ausgetestet. danach dann Stück für Stück da hingetastet.
Ich habe einfach immer höher gesprochen, habe meine Stimmlage verändert, bis es schließlich passte.
Ach ja, hier die App: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=de&gl=US
Ansonsten habe ich ganz gezielt drauf geachtet wie Frauen sprechen, bewusst auf Wortwahl und Betonung geachtet.
Voice Pitch Analyzer has you read out excerpts from Portrait of Dorian Grey and shows you the pitch your voice is hitting, helped me a lot when I was first doing my voice training. Here is an android download link, here is the apple one.
Ich habe das Stimmtraining DIY gemacht, nur mit Hilfe einer App
Ich bin ü40 und ich bin was Stimme angeht von ursprünglich ca 130 Hz auf jetzt etwa 190 hz gekommen. Am Telefon werde ich weiblich wahrgenommen.
Ich bin noch nicht perfekt, doch ich würde das bisher als sehr erfolgreich betrachten. Würde gerne noch ein paar Kleinigkeiten nachbessern, arbeite daran, aber selbst wenn das nicht klappt, ich bin äußerst zufrieden.
Verschiedene Leute unabhängig voneinander haben mir bestätigt, dass ich eine weibliche Stimme habe.
Ich habe die Stimmlage mit einer App trainiert:
Wobei Stimmlage nur eins ist und im zweifel gar nicht entscheidend. Gibt auch Frauen mit sehr tiefer Stimmlage. Viel wichtiger ist Wortwahl und Betonung. Da kann ich dir den Tip geben, such Dir ein Hörbuch, was dir gefällt und das von einer Frau gesprochen wird.
Und mach Dir bitte keine Illusionen, Wortwahl geht schnell, Stimmlage verändern dauert etliche Monate eh das richtig sitzt, Betonung ebenfalls.
Ich habe fast ein Jahr gebraucht und bin jetzt an dem Punkt, dass es einigermaßen intuitiv sitzt und passt.
Was du auch machen kannst, wenn du die Diagnose hast, dann kannst du dir über deinen Hausarzt eine Heilmittelverordnung holen und damit dann zu einem Logopäden gehen. Dann zahlt die Krankenkasse einige Stunden. Vielleicht ist das für den Einstieg oder eventuell für den späteren Feinschliff hilfreich.
Die Stimmlage ist gar nicht entscheidend für ein Passing. Sie erleichtert es, aber es gibt auch sehr viele Frauen mit tiefer Stimmlage. Wortwahl und Art zu sprechen sind entscheidender.
Mit viel Training geht aber dennoch einiges. Und ich meine wirklich viel Training. Das ganze wird dauern. Plane da mal ein Jahr ein.
Ich empfehle Dir eine App zur Stimmanalyse, die ist erstens kostenfrei und zum anderen kannst du dann immer wieder mal prüfen wo du bist von der Stimmlage.
Ich habe damit getestet, wo ich hin muss und dann habe ich geübt und geübt. Jetzt, nach etwas über einem Jahr klappt das einigermaßen intuitiv, bin jedoch immer wieder nochmals im Grenzwertigen bereich wenn ich nicht aufpasse. Doch es wird intuitiver.
Die App kann ich empfehlen:
That's the exact normal pitch of mine I would judge honestly https://youtu.be/lovktO91s7I
Uspe khudki analyse karke dekho kitni range nikal rahi. normal bolna isme no straining aur fir data do idher 🌚 frequency of voice nothing else
You can also download a voice pitch analyzer app. I have trans friends that have used to to train their voice higher or lower.
This is the one I'd recommend but there are plenty available online. You don't have to listen to your voice played back for it to work.
It's pretty good overall! Maybe it's just the O's that dip a little too low I think. Like Rainbow, Above, Gold.
Edit: have you tried Voice Pitch Analyzer?
Here's a free voice pitch analyzer (Github or Play Store) if anyone is looking to try vocal training. The app won't measure resonance or head/chest voice but it will read your pitch over a spoken passage and can track your progress over time.
Also useful (and free) is Voice Pitch Analyzer, which gives you a live analysis of how your voice comes across while reading The Portrait of Dorian Gray. Pair that with some Youtube lessons and it's a good alternative.
Voice Pitch Analyser
u/Smugcat101 it's called Voice Pitch Analyzer in the app store, made by Carola Nitz. It's a white icon with a purple intersex symbol laid over purple sound waves.
The ubiquitous free 'voice pitch analyzer':
The voice lesson android application, small trial lesson, then paid. but highly rated.:
For Android there's Voice Pitch Analyzer, which doesn't necessarily train you but it tells you generally what gender your vocal range is that. So it could be helpful paired with online tools. Take the results with a grain of salt though.
Voice Pitch Analyzer!
I use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
And if you wanna see my voice journey in action, I have a public Google drive folder with monthly updates and an updated voice pitch chart: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1-ARrsCDI3-1ZFtjCYZUetQjlk19fUK0F
>So I used a lot of hard work, and a few voice training exercises.
>That's one helpful source.
>Try move the resonance of your voice up, so that when you put your hand on your chest, it doesn't vibrate. To do this, you kinda need to learn to basically make your voice resonate up near your throat.
>Another thing you need to do, is PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.
>I recorded my progress using an app called https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
>This app is great, and it's also on iOS. It helps you see your realtime pitch, and what range you're hitting. After constant practice you should see it slowly creep up after 3-4 weeks of daily practice. My voice went from 120Hz to 250Hz after a lot of practice
>I wish I could help more, but there isn't any magic solution, the more practice you do, the better you get at it.
I have the same problem with keeping the higher pitch. What I do is use this phone app, but I don't read from their script. I use it to watch the pitch of my voice as I'm talking while doing exercises. Give it a try :) I hope this helps!
Voice Pitch Analyzer;
It looks like it might be this app, Voice Pitch Analyzer for Android. Not 100% sure though, haven't used it myself (yet).
Voice Pitch Analyzer.
I have a direct link to it in my recent post history. (It'd be a little hard to find this thread again if I leave to copy the URL on my phone, sorry. I'll try to remember to edit it in once I'm at my computer.)
Better late than never, I suppose.
As for iOS applications, there's Voice Pitch Analyzer. That one doesn't track pitch over time like Voice Pitch Analyzer/Android does, though. Is that an absolute requirement?
There's an app exactly like that, except you can only see the results afterward. I've been using it to track my voice progress.
Possibly on other devices as well
I have been working on my voice now about 3 months and have had 3 lessons and am getting gendered correctly on the phone now. I think the thing that I had to get past was thinking I sounded ridiculous.
Pitch is part of it but also the way you speak. Many women have deep voices but the way they sound words is different to men. That is what we listen for not pitch. So women put more emotion into the words. So think of it that way much more like telling a story.
Make happy happy and sad sad to put it simplistically. I have watched all those videos about moving the adam's apple and everything else and just find it all confusing.
To find my pitch I hum then raise that and then start to hum words. That is how I started. That is fine but it wont get you gendered female but a guy with a high voice.
So then start to work on your enunciation. That really is the key. It will be like acting at first but it will start to become easier. I am still very early in this of course but hope that helps.
I also use this app to keep a record of my progress and as I have got better my pitch has actually lowered a bit to a more comfortable level.
Honestly just reading up on the mechanics of it so I could try to figure which parts of my throat I should be using, and just kinda going for it. Once I figured out how to move my larynx at will, it became much easier. I think a big problem is that people figure out how to move their larynx, but then they way overshoot it (along with a pitch that's too high) and it ends up sounding cartoony because you get into this weird headvoice with no resonance. While I certainly wouldn't consider my voice "perfect", it's light-years beyond what it used to be and it doesn't stress my throat out at all to talk like this all the time. It's a little lower in the female range, more like, say, Isley Reust, but I get properly gendered on the phone all the time now.
As much as it sucks to listen to one's own voice, using the voice recorder app on my phone also helped a lot to track my progress. There's also an Android app called Voice Pitch Analyzer that I use, and it's really helpful (if it has one flaw, it's that it can't playback audio files but it's still been very useful to me.) I know there's a really good app on iOS too, created by a trans voice coach, but I've never used it.
Don't worry, it's normal, for a lot of people it's slower than what we see everywhere. Check that your levels are right before your next endo appointment, just in case.
For tracking voice progress, I recommend using an app such as this one.
There are some tools to directly analyse an audio file on your PC, but I like the visualisations in the Android app.
What is Your Voice Gender web app
Voice Pitch Analyzer for android
I've been using this. It works pretty well at helping you connecting your range. Disney songs aren't bad practice either.
I can only comment on the voice training bit, though a call center job would probably be a good job to avoid people if you're looking for entry-level stuff.
Singing has helped me mostly. Trying to match pitch with female singers helps me feel through many aspects of the female voice. It is also important to note that the male voice is very reconizable because of the deep resonance from your chest. You want to try to keep your resonance in your throat and up. (Wikipedia: Vocal resonation or search resonance on this sub for more info). Afterwards, I tend to scope myself using this app voice pitch analyzer. It seems to be fairly accurate, and you will be able to see just how much your resonance is impacting you if you look at the graph over time in the app.
It's a risk. That's one reason MtF transition starts with reversible steps, like hair removal, and not permanent changes like HRT and surgery. Since voice is a big concern, you can easily practice that without presenting. Try the Voice Pitch Analyzer to get started:
If it turns out that you can't achieve a feminized voice, you can look into voice surgery. Maybe someone can comment on it? Sadly it didn't affect the voice of the only person I know RL who had it done.
Hi, I recorded the same passage to see what differences Voice Pitch Analyzer could see:
It says my average was 209 Hz. In the first part of your recording, it says 161 Hz, which is in the male range. But in the second part, it says 217 Hz, though I think it didn't hear much of it because of the recording volume.
So that's good news! You might be achieving some of the overly-high "falsetto" pitch. But since you haven't practiced much, there's tons of strain (your throat was probably hurting too). One tip is to speak as high as you can, then bring the pitch down a little, and hopefully you'll find the sweet spot.
To be fair, I had "training" when I reached puberty, so you might need an actual voice therapist to step in and guide you. But if you get the "Voice Pitch Analyzer" app (free) it can help train you on your own:
One last tip is to smile when you talk. I've heard it can help raise your pitch.
I used many miscellaneous youtube videos for advice but didn't stick to their training. I used https://online-voice-recorder.com/ to record and playback my voice just to hear where I was at and then recently I got https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en that to see if I was in the right vocal range _, basically just lots of practice, slowly speaking higher and higher over time, keeping it as my normal speaking voice even when it didn't sound ok. For comparison of my voice from the start of last year, November of last year and then the other day https://soundcloud.com/user-415444558/tomitommiiterra
Looks like the voice pitch analyzer app
Edit: here is the link
voice pitch analyzer. It's on android. I'm not sure about iOS, sorry
App is Voice Pitch Analyzer
i think it's this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
Thanks, I'm glad!
It's "Voice Pitch Analyzer" for Android. I've seen it around here a lot: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en_US
Pretty sure it's https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
Is this the app that you were using? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer If so, is there a version that works on a computer or iPhone?
I was lucky enough to see a speech therapist, and almost everything we did was covered in this book! You can get it on Amazon "The Voice Book for Trans and Non-Binary People: A Practical Guide to Creating and Sustaining Authentic Voice and Communication".
We used it as a tool during sessions, and you could follow along everything she was talking about page for page. I never liked you tube guides cause I always compared myself to the person and it made me dysphoric, but this book was incredible, I could just sit quietly by myself and work through it.
We used a pitch app as well (Android & IOS), it is very simple compared to the other app suggested, read a passage and it tells your pitch range - I was always told to aim for high androgynous low to mid female, as a trans woman.
Voice Pitch Analyzer:
For Android, did you mean Voice Pitch Analyzer? I've seen it used a lot
Here you go! have fun ��
It is voice pitch analyzer, here is an google play link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
Voice Pitch Analyzer on the Android and the Voice Gender app on the web. Also Praat on the desktop. :)
Voice Pitch analyzer https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
Voice analyst lite https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.speechtools.voiceanalystfree
Also https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tadaoyamaoka.vocalpitchmonitor seems fairly highly rated but I never used it
It's called Voice pitch analyzer
Voice Pitch analyzer
I don't know if I'm allowed to provide links but here's the one to the play store
Someone else linked - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
not op here but : Voice Pitch Analyzer. I use it too. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
Yes: Voice Pitch Analyzer for Android
You'll need a microphone from what the instructions say...
For Android, unsure if it's on Apple.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer this one.
It's this one.
>Pretty sure it's https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
I don't know what Christella Voiceup is, but based on /u/DarkStar1971's comment I've installed and will check it out.
At my last local trans support group, the Voice Pitch Analyzer was given consistently high praise. I've only barely used it for a few minutes. But it gave me a script to read, which I did, and then showed me where I fell in the femme/androgynous/masc range, which was really cool to see. I'm really excited that it can track my pitch over time so I can see how I'm doing. And obviously there's a lot more than pitch, but, anyway, there's another android friendly app
Regarding coach/voice therapist - I haven't looked into any but I have seen coach/voice therapists that work online. Can't give links, sorry, just like the odd youtube video or reddit comment I know has passed through my brain. If you think a coach is your ticket perhaps it's at least worth a try? Perhaps a coach (and the fact that you paid them already) could be the kick-start you need?
And remember, every trans gal's journey is different, and totally valid. When you say things like "starting HRT...meaning I'm behind on voice..", well, obviously it's your journey, and if that's how you feel then okay... but just in case it's not... who says those are the rules?? You can do whatever you want, in whatever order you want. And if you have to do some things out of you're preferred order - because of circumstances, dysphoria blocks, mistakes, impulsiveness, unexpected bouts of brazen courage - then remember that that's okay.
I'm sure I mention that too because I've spent a bit too much time comparing myself to other trans girls, especially online. And I've been realizing how much that's been dragging me down with doubts, fears, and self-criticisms. For reference, I am not on HRT (one day I hope..), I've definitely watched some videos and am trying out techniques but haven't sat down once and tried to actually practice voice properly (I've sung in the car tho), and I'm fully out and have recently socially transitioned. I could go into more detailed reasons why this works for me, but basically I figure I'm like a high-rise building being built. That I am a work-in-progress is very noticeable. But also I'm working at it every day, or as much as I can, even if it's just a little thing, or just maintaining the status quo. I'm going to start looking like a finished work a lot quicker than if I only worked at it secretly at night when nobody's looking for fear they might see construction.
Aaand lol I just compared myself to a ugly block-y high-rise building, but in a positive way ;P
I use Voice Pitch Analyzer on Android.
Voice pitch analyzer on Google Play Store?
Voice Pitch Analyzer - Android Apps on Google Play
voice pitch analyzer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en
This one if I'm not mistaken: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
Probably this one
Use this app to train your pitch. It doesn't record, so there's no listening to it.
That's what I'm using. I've gone from 180 Hz to 220 Hz as my comfortable range over a month and a half using it.
It takes a lot of practice and dedication, but you can do it! Some resources: /r/transvoice, Voice Gender App, Voice Pitch Analyzer
Read the tutorials on transvoice and then record yourself a lot. The common beginning technique is to try talking in a falsetto voice, then gradually come down out of falsetto into a chest voice, but maintain the higher pitch. The resonance part is a lot tougher. Take a look at this video, while slightly comedy, it's a theater professional who has a trained female voice. Check out how he changes his resonance, even with a lower pitch, and still sounds female. Practice, practice! :)
Not real-time but this seems nice https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
Actually! I double-checked. They used Voice Pitch Analyzer!
Voice Pitch Analyzer
Here's a Google play store link to the one i use!!!
This one!: Voice Pitch Analyzer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer based on screen shots.
Link to the app on Google Play
Sorry, meant to get back to this a bit earlier (ended up being kind of a bad dysphoria night. It's been a few months, so I guess I was overdue.) Anyway, I wanted to answer before I go to bed. Also sorry for the wall of text that follows.
I spent a long time watching videos and reading articles about voice training. The thing I discovered is that all of them have useful bits of information, and all of them have stuff that's kinda hard to wrap your head around until you actually finally stumble onto the mechanics yourself. I wish I could point to one singular source that gave me that 'Aha!' moment, but there wasn't one.
I ended up taking the basic pieces of advice that are most common (like learning to control your larynx, etc) and just kinda dove into it. There was quite a bit of trial and error, but eventually you start understanding what other people mean when they describe something (and it's often not quite what you might've imagined they meant.) The biggest problem is that nobody can reach into your throat and hold everything in the right position so you can feel what they actually mean when they describe doing something.
A lot of my "training" was simply taking the advice I'd read or watched, and then just playing around with my voice all the time (well, until it would get strained, and then I'd stop for the day.) Eventually I would start "getting" certain aspects, and once one aspect was easily repeatable, I'd move on to something else and add it in.
I started with my throat first (ie, larynx and all that), which was probably one of the more difficult aspects. That's the one that took me a few months to really be able to control on a constant basis without strain. One important aspect of that is that you will most likely not end up holding it as high/tight as you think you should when you're starting off. That strains your voice very quickly, and it's not really where most people end up being comfortable anyway. A lot of people seem to read the "Hold it at a position where you can't breathe," but then miss the part right after that says, "This is not where you'll actually be holding it when you speak." That exercise is to help train and get a feel for controlling it, but not where you'll normally being holding it.
A big aspect is where your voice comes from (ie, chest, or throat/mouth.) Male voices typically resonate from your chest, which you can easily feel by holding your hand on your chest when you talk. Female voices generally come from the throat/mouth, and even if your pitch isn't especially high, moving your voice up out of your chest still makes a huge difference. This partially comes along with the larynx thing, but a tip that I found very helpful was to visualize your words forming at the front of your mouth (right behind your teeth), instead of coming out of your chest. Kind of lifting my tongue up in the back (for lack of a better term), as if I was partially closing off my airway, also helped me to "move" my voice into my mouth. I know this is really vague, but unfortunately I don't really know how to describe it any better (plus it's been long enough since I did voice training that I've honestly kinda forgotten the exact mechanics of how I got from there to here.)
The next thing I focused on was pitch, mostly because, to me, this is one of the easier things to manipulate (although these are all sort of interrelated.) I did what most people suggest, and basically took it up until it just crossed over into falsetto (Mickey Mouse) territory, then backed it down a little until it sounded a bit more natural and didn't strain my voice as much. Your voice cracks when it hits that point and goes into falsetto, and you want to take it back down just under the point where it cracks...if that makes sense? I actually let it go a smidge lower than that, because it's where I was most comfortable (this is what I was mostly talking about when I referred to those very specific voices that weren't comfortable for me to emulate. They just aren't in my nature "comfortable" range, and I couldn't sustain that for very long at all.)
One other thing I focused on was the cadence, that slight rising and falling of pitch as you talk. Although my old voice clip above has a bit of a wider cadence to it (probably a byproduct of working in call centers), my normal old speaking voice was pretty damn monotone. The nice thing about cadence is that it's something you can practice completely independently of all the other stuff. Women tend to have a more sing-song, lilting manner of speaking than men, and this was something I made a point to focus on. My best advice for that is to just listen to how other women speak and practice emulating that lilting quality.
Tools: aside from watching videos and reading countless articles/posts, the only tools I used were a couple apps. The first is a free one call Voice Pitch Analyzer (also available on iOS) and my phone's built-in voice note app (there are loads of free ones if your phone didn't come with one preinstalled.) VPA is nice because it shows you a chart over time of your pitch, and where it falls in the male/androgynous/female ranges. It doesn't actually record the audio though, so it's mostly for seeing a visual representation on a chart. To actually hear my progress, I used my phone's voice note app (I set it to high audio quality, because the low quality cuts a bunch of frequencies out to make the file smaller, and it gives a less accurate idea of what your voice actually sounds like.) It helps to record at least one short clip of your pre-trained voice, so you can always have something to compare your progress to. After a while I moved on to using my phone's selfie cam so I could actually watch myself speaking -- for some reason that really helped.
One thing that I found did not help me was reading passages out of books. I found that I was more concerned with concentrating on what was written on the page, rather than how I was saying it. It always ended up sounding forced. For me, I found that just pretending I was having a conversation with someone about something I know about worked better. I could pick a subject that I know something about, and then just kind of imagine a conversation with someone and say my answers out loud. If reading passages works for you, great, but if not then try just speaking off the top of your head on a subject you can talk about without having to think about too much (hobbies, sports teams, whatever.) Now I can read a passage out loud without it being a problem, but at the time I found it took my focus away from controlling my voice.
Anyway, that's about it. I'm sorry if a lot of that was vague. I'm far enough removed from when I did all this that I've kinda forgotten exactly what I did in some aspects (although I suppose that's not a bad problem to have, since it's all second nature to me now.) I hope there was at least something helpful in here though! It does take time and practice, but it does get easier as you go along and start figuring things out.
Voice Pitch Analyzer. It's also on the App Store.
Edit: fuck formatting lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en it's this and it's super helpful ^_^
It is Voice Pitch Analyzer.
No, it should be free. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en
I believe this is:
Maybe this might be of use. Not used it myself yet but it was mentioned as a useful tool on another sub reddit.
Actually I used an android app
Most probably "Voice Pitch Analyzer" or something similar
This is what I used to see how feminine I could make voice
I also found this app which actually helped me a lot years ago. I actually forgot about it until now.
looks to be this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer&hl=en\_US&gl=US
I use this read a short passage, tracks all of it, gives you an average, and also tracks over time.
I found an app that measured your voice pitch but idk how accurate it is.
probably exists for ioscels too
oops i shouldve mentioned it -- its Voice Pitch Analyzer (Google Play link)
This is what I use
I'm pretty sure they're using an app called Voice Pitch Analyzer.
This is the link
A day late, but
Pretty sure most of us on here use voice pitch analyser - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
Guide for finding and placing resonance
More resonance related stuff
Phone App for general pitch analysis after a recording session
Realtime pitch monitoring software (PC)
Free recording software for reviewing
voice training exercises
These are the tools I use and the practice exercises I try and do every day. I try and get at least an hour of real practice every day, but I often go longer. Not saying this is the exact way to do it, but it's what i've been doing (plus doing "larynx ups" just randomly during the day for 5 minute intervals).
I am almost positive I will have to edit this for formatting, but I hope this helps!
You asked for feedback, so I will be honest but constructive.
You sound mostly androgynous, leaning male. Your range is acceptable, sitting on androgyny with some female speech patterns, but what is doing it is your vocal resonance. If you put your hand on your chest you'll feel vibration, that's the resonance. Your resonance is inside of your chest, not your throat, and that is what is leaning you to the male side.
This resource is what worked for me for getting rid of chest resonance. I cannot attest to it being the, "correct," regiment, but it worked for me 5 years ago and hasn't caused me any problems, but take my anecdote as that, an anecdote.
Additionally, may I recommend using Voice Pitch Analyzer (FREE Google Play Storr FREE Apple Store) to measure your vocal ranges. Doesn't help with resonance though.
You're not far off the mark, though.
Here is the link to an app I used.
Hope you enjoy, the whole community loves you and you're valid.
Right here! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer hope you enjoy.
Voice pitch analyzer
Here is a link to the android version, I'm not sure about iOS
its called voice pitch analyzer.
Android link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
i think its on the ios app store too but im not sure
Well thank you! There are still things about it that kind of annoy me, but I'm at least okay with it now, and I've found a place where I'm comfortable talking all the time and it's second nature at this point.
My training regimen was all on my own time. I watched more YT videos and read more articles than I can count, and while they were each helpful in their own ways, it's kinda one of those things that you just have to play around with until you have those "a ha!" moments yourself.
The only things I used were the voice notes app and selfie cam on my phone, and a free app called Voice Pitch Analyzer (also available for iOS.) For my voice note app (I think pretty much every phone has one, but there are free ones for download too), I found that setting the audio quality to the highest setting gave much more accurate-sounding samples -- if the quality is set low, it can tend to cut off highs and lows and sound very midrangey, and won't give you the best idea of what your voice actually sounds like. It also helps to use headphones, rather than relying on the built-in speaker on your phone, since that also tends to exaggerate midrange and can make you think you're more nasal sounding than you might actually be. Most of my voice samples I'd delete after a few days, but I'd save the occasional one just to have for the sake of comparison farther down the road.
Once I reliably got my resonance out of my chest and started getting a better handle on how to control my larynx and all of that, I really started using the Voice Pitch Analyzer app a lot. It's pretty straightforward, although it doesn't playback actual audio, which is why a voice note app comes in handy. But VPA does show typical masculine/andro/feminine ranges, and will show you a graph over time so you can see what your average is and how often you dip into andro/masculine ranges and stuff. Once you can keep your voice primarily in the feminine range, you're doing good (and don't worry if your voice very occasionally falls into the andro or even the very upper part of the masculine range, that's normal for even a lot of cis women.) VPA also saves all of your graphs, so you can track your progress for however long you want.
The selfie cam on my phone came in handy so that I could actually see what I looked like while I was speaking. That was surprisingly helpful, although TBH I couldn't pinpoint why if you asked. But you can use that instead of, or in conjunction with, a voice note app. As a side benefit, it also helped me see the difference in my face as my laser hair removal progressed, so that was kinda cool too.
But other than these apps, it was just a lot of practice. At first I'd try to practice for at least 30 minutes at a time (or until my throat/voice started getting strained), and after a while I could go longer and longer. Once I found my comfort zone it became even easier, and I'd start trying to talk in my "new" voice as often as I could, while trying to avoid vocal fatigue (you'll want to push it, but don't. It will end up making things more difficult, because now you need to also let your voice heal before you can keep going. You can also do damage if you're not careful, so try not to overdo it, especially at first.)
Lastly, don't worry about reading specific passages if you find yourself concentrating more on what you're reading, rather than how you're talking. I discovered pretty quickly that trying to read a written passage was just making things harder because I couldn't focus on my voice, so I just started having "conversations" with myself, where I'd "answer" a question about something I know and can just kind of talk about it like a normal conversation. This way I didn't have to think about the words, just how I was speaking them. If reading passages works for you then great, but if you find yourself tripping over them because it's messing with your concentration on your voice, just start speaking off the top of your head about a subject that you're familiar with (favorite hobbies, bands, movies, whatever your thing is.)
here's a link
I use this one:
I've started only a few days ago, I don't know how accurate it is
This one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lilithwittmann.voicepitchanalyzer
I use these apps, the later ones are not free but don't cost much.
Voice Pitch Analyzer
The annoying thing is finding privacy to actually practice without anyone hearing you. A car is great, or a park I guess.
Also going to start your laser hair removal can be a real relief when you see it disappearing. Don't worry, it will take at least 8 months to disappear completely (I think.)
Voice Pitch Analyzer will do that
Here's a free app for android. It was very useful for me to track my progress.