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Congratulations, the Z Play will be an awesome upgrade from the iPhone 6.

The Z Play gives you a pretty pure Android experience.

If you haven't used the phone much, upgrade to the latest 7.1.1 version and possibly do a factory reset after in order to avoid any issue (there shouldn't be any of you don't, though).

Give the Moto features a shot: chop chop for flashlight and wrist twist for camera are awesome and hard to live without once you get used to them. I likely already noticed Moto Display and its "Jedi Mode" (wave for Moto Display).

The Google Launcher is deprecated and will no longer receive updates, so try a better launcher. Most people (including myself) love Nova Launcher (enable Google Now integration by installing the little helper app it tells you to install).

Then explore the Play Store and get some of the apps that make all the iOS fans jealous.

PocketCasts for podcasts is brilliant.

There is an ample selection of excellent Reddit clients available on Android, almost too many to choose from. I personally love Boost for Reddit, but Relay for Reddit and Sync for Reddit are also excellent.

You can sideload things from off the Play Store as well, check out AdGuard as easily the best adblocker for Android (free for browsers, paid if you want to filter all apps).

Try an automation app. Autoset is cheap and easy to used.

Above all: have fun.

This got me digging around Amazon.... I found some more possible clues about the Z4 line in the description for this screen protector for the Z4 Force:

https://www.amazon.com/SPARIN-Protector-Tempered%C2%AD-Definition-Resistant/dp/B07RYSRDY1/

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Specifically the fact that it mentions "NOT FIT for Moto Z4 6.4 inch or Moto Z4 Play 6.22 inch 2019 Released"

Could it be that there's still going to be a Z4 Play?

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Also: "The screen of the Moto Z4 Force has been designed to curve downward at its edges "

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I don't believe either of those tidbits have been reported anywhere else yet.

IF you want to keep it simple just get the moto branded charger with integrated cable from Verizon.

You say you are an IT guy but don't know what USB-A is? USB-A is the classic rectangle connector that plugs into the computer/chargers. USB-B is the micro/mini cables, USB-C is the new standard with the oval type plug. You can get USB-A > USB-C cables (to plug into normal usb ports) or USB-C to USB-C cables, which have the same USB-C connector on both sides.

QC has to do with the charger for the most part. Almost all USB cables are compatible with QC. QC is a qualcomm standard for their snapdragon processors, and it is up to the manufacturer on whether to use it or not. Turbopower is what the motorola Z phones use. If you need to hook it into a computer or a more universal charger just get a decent USB-A to USB-C cable with good reviews. Anker, Aukey, etc. would be fine. I got the iOrange cable here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016ZYUDT2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1.

If you need a charger pickup a decent QC charger. It probably won't charge as fast as the turbopower chargers but it will be fast enough. If you need to charge your phone as fast as possible just buy the official Motorola Turbopower 30 cable. I would probably just buy it from Verizon since it is on sale for $19.99 now, and Amazon and the like are getting kind of scary with the amount of counterfeit/fake products on there for things like cables and chargers.

Try not to overcomplicate these things. They are just cables and chargers - nothing more.

If I didn't already have a Moto Z Play Droid, I would skip the Moto Z2 Play and just get the Z Play. The main appeal of this phone is the battery life. Motorola's new version of this phone appears to be a downgrade.

Plus, last year's model is somewhat cheaper. Amazon has it for $349, while the Moto Z2 Play appears to be $408 everywhere. Also, if you're looking to save some money, swappa has this device around [$300].

But as others have mentioned, you're likely going to have a longer update cycle with the Z2 Play. And the fingerprint scanner contains that ability to use it as buttons (swipe gestures), if that's something you're interested in. But from all reviews I have read, the camera hasn't really been improved, so there is very little reason to upgrade - and plenty of reason to stick with the Z Play.

I saw on amazon where you can get 2 replacements for 8 bucks. Not sure how easy to replace but at least cheap. I do have a protector over my camera lens. No detectable reduction in photo quality, sometimes focus hesitation but not sure if its the protector.

If there is nothing you need on the phone, do a full factory reset (including personal data) as though you were selling the phone.

A couple of additional things you may want to consider backing up include (if they apply to you):

• Nova Launcher settings
• Tasker settings and macros
• Podcast subscriptions OPML file

When you go to login to the clean, reset phone, you will have a choice to restore your apps/settings from your account (if you use Android backup). But I would recommend not doing this. I find that resetting a device is a great opportunity to do some house cleaning. There may be apps that you no longer need and don't want on your device.

Here's what I do: I install an app lister like this prior to factory reset. After reset, I use this list (that I emailed to myself) to curate the apps that I still currently use and install via web browser.

One other thing I usually do is to temporarily disable 2-factor authentication so that my Google, Dropbox, and LastPass 2-factor keys that are configured in Google Authenticator will need to be re-enabled once my phone has been reset.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.ccc.notification

Successfully downloaded and installed here (Germany). Can't be launched and doesn't appear to do anything, though.

Screenshots make it look like unwanted crapware, sadly.

GSM Arena has the (rumored) specs on the Z4 Play. Here's a comparison:

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9564&idPhone2=9691&idPhone3=8310#diff-

The only real difference seems to be the screen size. Looks like the CPU/memory/battery are all the same.

I am also a loyal Z Play owner, but after 2+ years the battery is finally starting to show its age.

I'm really considering just jumping on the Z4 when it comes out next week.

Maybe too good to be true: https://www.gsmarena.com/moto_e5_plus_and_moto_z3_play_spotted_on_tenaa_faster_chips_and_more_memory-news-32448.php

I think techdroider mistook the e5+ for power and z3 play china for z3.

I believe that /u/bad_buoys is correct. As long as you have the updated version of Android Messages installed, you're already capable of RCS from a device level. I think it would all depend on the carrier to support it.

-Tom Motorola Support

Can you do us a favor and verify that you're getting band 12 on t-mobile? Assuming you're in a B12 area, that is.

Should be as easy as installing this app.

Here's one on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GFQ9CBN/?coliid=I2IF9RJK2H2I54 Here's one on eBay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Verizon-Bumper-Cover-for-the-Motorola-Moto-Z-Play-Droid-Edition-Black/142997450165

An awesome gallery app I use is Simple Gallery

I went ahead and paid for the pro version. I absolutely love it compared to Google Photos. Very lightweight and it has a "recycle bin" feature that I have grown fond of.

I have the Z Play and use Pacer as my pedometer. I like the clean UI, graphed information and it's lightweight and reliable enough for my purposes. That said, I think all phone based pedometers are inherently unreliable and best used as just general activity measures rather than anything else.

Try this app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.house.noranuko.mediarescanner

I had the same problem after removing my SD card. This forces Android to rescan your SD Card files so they will hopefully display properly in your music apps. Worked a treat for me but YMMV.

i had this same concern, I found an app and posted about it here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Moto_Z/comments/75ogow/great_screen_shot_app/

i never got the scroll section to work, but I can crop and/or draw on screenshots like a champ:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flextrick.universalcropper

There is an app that override the fingerprint sensor to do some other actions, like go home, swipe left and right and such things. If I recall correctly it's this app.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ztc1997.fingerprint2sleep

I personally use Open Camera. I like the stock camera app, but the night mode issue is by far the only thing keeping me from using it. I would just toy around with a few apps and see what you like.

Sorry...yeah, that was it. OOS. :( https://slickdeals.net/f/12161581-moto-mod-gamepad-29-99-tax?sdxt01=2018-10-25+17%3A06%3A47&sdxt07=0

I just read this yesterday I think you'd benefit from reading it too. Explains what the Quad Bayer filters in these cameras are actually good for, and what they're not.

https://www.gsmarena.com/quad_bayer_sensors_explained-news-37459.php

I'd bet that because the Z3 has a 21:9 display, they have those devices blacklisted until they add code to support them, individually. Or at least just enable them individually, after testing.

Try sideloading from APK Mirror (trusted source from Android Police), and see if it plays OK. This will likely also make it eligible for updates through the Play Store in the future, but that doesn't always work.

I'd also recommend you email Blizzard and see if they'll get the Z3 added to the compatibility list.

I'm running LOS 15.1 on a Z2 Play. I bought it only a few weeks ago and flashed on day 1, so can't really compare to stock FW, but overall I'm happy with it.

A few things to be aware of:

• The latest versions of LOS have, for some reason, disabled on-screen nav buttons, in favour of fingerprint reader gestures. The buttons can be brought back by editing the build.prop file, but the gestures cannot be disabled, AFAIK.
• Mod support varies. I only have a few style shells myself, and I understand the power banks should also work, but mods like the projector or Hasselblad might not.
• Stock AOSP camera app is rubbish. I tried out a bunch of 3rd-party camera apps from the Play Store, but most had various issues. So now I'm using Google Camera, Moto Camera and Nokia Camera. All can be downloaded from the Play Store, but for newer versions of Google Camera see here and here.
• You'll also lose some stock features, like Moto Display (though Ambient Display works fine), double-tap-to-wake, as well as the ability to customise the fingerprint gestures.
• If you still have warranty left, then unlocking the bootloader (which is required for flashing a custom ROM) will void it.

Personally I'm not bothered because I bought this phone specifically for running LOS, and I knew it wouldn't be a 100% smooth experience. In your case, though, I might try resetting the phone and/or getting a new battery first.

As I said, I don't own one. Probably uses a nominal amount of data in the background to keep itself updated about what content is available or update itself, but the bulk of its data use would be user controlled streaming of content. Don't know if casting requires outside connection or not.

Edit: quick Google search indicates outside connection for Chromecast is required to cast to it from a phone. However, this workaround is a possible solution. https://lifehacker.com/stream-local-media-to-a-chromecast-without-an-internet-1709666323

No not the skin, the style shell. I've got nylon one with the phone but I it was too slippery so I bought the leather one from Amazon.

This one

It's actually $60 new right now on Amazon. Not sure where you are getting the $90 estimate. That wasn't even the original price.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LBGYTNU/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me

Moto isn't shy with selling their replacement parts or allowing them to be resold, so if you buy from a reputable seller, it's likely genuine. The Moto batteries aren't subject to intense counterfeiting like Samsung and Apple batteries, so if it looks like the OEM battery and came from a reputable source, it likely is legitimate.

I'd get an OEM battery over that unknown one you posted, though. Never know how safe it is, since you don't know who made it or how pure the components they use are. At least the OEM battery is quality (some will say it isn't, but that's because heat from the mods and heat from the USB-PD charging wear them out faster than an average battery—the Z and Z Play have different battery manufacturers and both suffer the same fate) and isn't likely to start a fire. Something like this would be good. Should be OEM, and is actually slightly cheaper than the knockoff.

Oh, I almost forgot. Can't find a source for it on ebay, but Amazon UK has one in stock, but the precut adhesive to reattach the screen is a life saver. Makes reassembly so much easier than trying to use UV glue or rolls of crappy tape. If it sells out or Amazon isn't your style, I'm sure you can find another source for it in the UK. Just search for "Moto Z precut screen adhesive" and make sure it's not for the Z2 Play, as that part has sufficient stock at most places, so it might come up in your search.

i have seen a lot of people recommend the verizon one, its probably the best looking one out there, but i also seen reviews saying that it doesnt fit some power mods, so i am using this casewe one from amazon, and it fits perfectly with the moto power mod(the slow charging one)

I used this app to test recording in stereo and mono on my z3 when the primary mic broke: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.androidapp.audiorecorder

You can also go into test mode (dial *#*#2486#*#*) and go to the audio menu to test each mic individually. It just shows the dBa level..

But you could probably test how you hold it and having things covered up, and see if things are acceptable.

Another thing with the z3, is that only one mic is really used for calls. The secondary channel almost never gets used unless you deliberately record in stereo. The third mic is for noise cancelation but really doesn't cancel much from what I've seen.

> how did you root it?

You first need to unlock the bootloader. Unlocking always wipes your entire phone (including internal storage) and voids the warranty. There are instructions online, search for "unlocking Moto z2 play bootloader" (check this out)

After that, you can flash TWRP via recovery. Next, install lineageOS or any ROM using the instructions given on their XDA page. Rooting can be done with either a toggle in lineageOS, or by flashing magisk. I'll recommend magisk.

> I would love to use GCAM and this damned 32bit OS doesn't allow it

I think there's a 32 bit GCam as well, although it may not be as feature-rich as the 64 bit apk. Lemme see if I can find the link.

> do Moto Display and Gestures work with LineageOS?

All Moto gestures work perfectly well. Moto display gets replaced with ambient display (like pixel phones). It's not as feature rich, but does show the clock and notification icons when moved / waved over.

> Is battery life improved?

Definitely improved. Have you ever checked how much battery Google play services consume? On rooted phones, you can limit the background usage of Google play services with a magisk module.

> TurboCharging

TurboCharging works perfectly fine. I even measured the charging voltage/current with a USB-meter-thingy.

However, there is no pop-up saying "TurboCharger connected". Install TurboToast, and it will add that notification.

Hi Sintered_Monkey, my sincere apologies for what happened and we would like to help. May I know when did this happen? Have you tested your Moto Z3's Gyroscope and Accelerometer using this application? Can you tell us what are the results? Hope to hear from you soon. - Mike

You can use Substratum and if not rooted, the Andromeda add-on (that one is paid but it's not much) to change the theme. There's a lot of variety, and many themes are highly configurable so you can make it look the way you want.

You do have to start Andromeda with the PC using adb before and after you install a theme if you've rebooted since you last started it, but the themes themselves persist through reboots no problem. You just have to start Andromeda with the PC to change or activate a theme.

Also make sure that you only install themes that are for Oreo 8.0, not ones that say "8.1 only." Many have templates for different versions, so you just have to pay attention.

There are a lot of guides on Substratum and Andromeda, so I'm not going to detail everything here. But if you want a little different look, this is the way to go. I have been running a dark theme for months. https://i.imgur.com/I7teDzc.png The theme is simply called Default Dark Theme.

There's the normal equalizer option which isn't that big of a deal, but the real killer is the Dirac Panoroma Sound. When enabled, it makes the sound more full. I don't really know how to describe it, but think of the sound going from stereo to full surround sound. It sounds amazing when it works. It's like unlocking the full potential of what the speaker is capable of.

Problem is, the app is buggy as shit and doesn't work half the time or force closes randomly (just look at the hilariously bad Play Store review). When it works though, the difference between JBL1 and 2 is pretty big thanks to that one option.

Thanks for the information. I've heard bad things about the 30W charger, but didn't know the 15W was bad as well. Bummer, I was digging the charging!

I'll probably go for this coupled with this.

I actually replace my nav bar with Navigation Gestures by XDA - It's a pill style navigation that allows you to have the full vertical of your screen available to apps. I LOVE it because my phone honestly feels bigger. The nav bar is such a waste of space in general.

So I actually don't have experience with the moving hit boxes.

I'm using immersive mode and fingerprint quick actions, associated the fast swipe/quick tap to the back button and the single tap to the home button.
I think is a great solution for us having the fingerprint sensor on the front.

I use an app called Pie Control. It's a hidden navigation bar that pulls out from the side of your screen.

The trigger area is customizable. You get the basic 3 to start(back, home, and recents). But you can add anything from the notification drop down to different apps. Additionally you can set long press options for each of them.

If you also have an iPhone or MacBook, you can also turn your Moto Z and Projector Mod into an AirPlay receiver, like an Apple TV, just by using AirPin Pro. Works great on my Z2 Force.

But I did use QuickPic for years before the CM debacle. It really was the best gallery app. I did run the safe apk for some time, but ended up switching to alternatives. The closest I could find is Piktures, but honestly it's just not as good.

I got precise volume https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.precisevolume&hl=en for more steps, no root required.

Honestly, it's a little annoying sometimes because it fights with the default audio manager, so when you want to use it, you have to change volume inside the app, not with the buttons, and if you use the buttons, you go back to device audio. But since I don't use the buttons often anyway, I deal with it.

You need to have a functioning ADB install. Here is one solution: https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-enable-system-wide-immersive-mode-without-root/

And the easier one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rascarlo.quick.settings.tiles

But you forget the most important thing which is price. I don't think the $100 difference offset is worth everything you mentioned. If you want a better camera, go for it, but the SD626 and SD625 is a bare improvement.

As for the fingerprint navigation, you can use this on any phone that has a fingerprint reader.

unfortunately, as you have realised, the chin is all wasted space.

the least you can do is add a menu button to the on-screen navbar with Custom Navigation Bar (probably the simplest among many other ways).

FP sensor can be remapped with Fingerprint Quick Actions (again, many options as for the app/method you want to use to modify the sensor action, but this is the simplest).

Note that when using any FP sensor action-modifying app, the on-screen home button will be less responsive.

I use Navbar Apps. It changes the color of the navbar to the color of the status bar in apps so its never black, looks prettier also imo.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.damianpiwowarski.navbarapps

I also use immersive mode in any app that supports it, such as Slide for Reddit.

Third party apps. I use GSam Battery Monitor. It has a very detailed, zoomable graph, tells you your hourly discharge, how much battery is drained when the screen is on vs. screen is off, with some fiddling can tell you exactly which processed are draining how much battery... I highly recommend it!

I like nav bar apps in play store. Themes Nav bar to what ever app your in. I have it cut off for nova launcher and the Nav bar is transparent.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.damianpiwowarski.navbarapps

The Moto Z Play's positioning is flawless, the best I have ever seen. Perfect reception even indoors or under the thickest of clouds. And Galileo support is coming to improve it even more.

In addition to its essentially unbeatable battery life, I see little reason why it wouldn't make the perfect backpacking companion (in a nice, durable case). While it has no water resistance certification, this video suggests that water damage won't be much of an issue either:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxvLKskmkg8

Locus Maps Pro is on sale at 50% off right now, just grab it, download some offline maps and you should be ready to go.

2.0 has nothing to do with it.

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Z3 Play has 3.1. https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_z3_play-9003.php

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The issue (if you call it that) is the video out is being routed over the mod connector.

$325 just about the same with tax. https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Motorola-Moto-Z2-Force-XT1789-T-Mobile-64GB-4GB-RAM-Android-4G-LTE-Phone/182995058216?epid=0&hash=item2a9b5afe28%3Ag%3Ao4YAAOSwZW5aTnTX%3Asc%3AUSPSFirstClass%2120147%21US%21-1&redirect=mobile&afepn=53372598...

Amazon had it $299.99 but its oos.

Taken from here: https://slickdeals.net/f/11137011-motorola-moto-z2-force-xt1789-t-mobile-64gb-300

Both of these answers are theoretical, so take them with a grain of salt. I am in no way responsible for your phone:

This spec page says that the Z2 Play supports SD Cards up to 256GB, which in theory means that you can put any SD card produced. Cards above 32GB are SDXC rather than SDHC and if the phone can read one SDXC card it stands to reason it could read all of them (even the 2TB ones).

With that, a card over 64GB should be formatted by the phone in exFAT rather than FAT32. If that is the case, the 4GB limit of FAT32 would no longer apply.

you can use this release of the google camera if you're on a nougat rom https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-4-2-035-141213305-release/ and if you're on an oreo rom you can use this port of the pixel 2 camera https://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/themes-apps/pixel-2-camera-arm-processor-t3688711

I used this magisk module to mimic efficiency mode while I was on lineageos but you can use it for more stuff. It needs root though.

I can see where you are coming from I really do. I advise you to sit tight for the time being as we plan on releasing complete specifications in the coming weeks. In the mean time, to help put your mind at ease : http://www.toptenreviews.com/mobile/accessories/best-solar-phone-chargers/

Looking at the Voltaic Amp, the Mico will have a panel that has a 49% (+- 5%) smaller surface area and a 55% (+- 5%) smaller battery capacity. Just a few specifications for you for what is achievable until the Mico's full specifications are released. 🙂

I hope we can highlight that Mico will be an incredible Moto Mod! 🙂 Thanks for the continued contribution. Ross M | Modularis Systems

Adguard does a much more thorough job than Adaway these days. Heck, you can use Adguard DNS and get the same level of ad-blocking as Adaway without installing anything amd neithr requires root.

I recently made a more focused list of free games with a Google spreadsheet and everything. Again this list is not 100% tested with the gamepad mod but out of the about 110 games I bet 100 them will work fine.

/r/AndroidGaming/comments/892s7a/curated_list_of_free_games_with_controller_support/

For the list of about 200 paid games:

https://appagg.com/lists/8798/

No way did I test all those paid games but I feel it's a good list even if it's not 100%.

Shake Light gives you this feature on any device. It's not as good as Moto's native version, but it works pretty well. It doesn't work well with some phones, but Torchie works decently for those devices. I use Torchie on my OnePlus 7T, and though I have to turn on the screen before pressing the volume buttons I don't have many issues with it. It works well on devices with a solid volume rocker, but it's harder to use on devices with two volume buttons.

id recommend a plastic screen on the z2f, with the shatterproof screen all you really need is scratch protection.

i tried a couple tempered glass ones n they cracked or didnt sit flush on the screen. i ordered a 6 pack of some cheap plastic ones off amazon that worked great. that pack was enough for the 3-4 years i used the phone. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071W74W8L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_i421CB3awtA8q

Shakelight is what I use to use on my OP 7T to replicate this behavior. It wouldn't always work on the first try and does have some battery drain, but it's the best app for replicating the shake for flashlight gesture.

I've since switched to Torchie, which turns on the flashlight when you press both volume buttons at the same time. I have to turn the screen on first, but it works 100% of the time and has no battery drain. Some phones and cases make it harder to press both volume buttons at once so this might not work well for you.

I just found this little gem from amazon https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Transmitter-Broadcasting-Hand-free-Walkie-talkie/dp/B01GPXBD4W/ref=pd_ys_c_rfy_281407_18?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01GPXBD4W&pd_rd_r=5WHEX1X27759DV6G8YRH&pd_rd_w=OVO9q&pd_rd_wg=c2eVy&psc=1&refRID=6F8...

It is a BT adapter and FM transmitter Looks like it will take the BT from the phone and broadcast it over FM

I am using the https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JS2KEL0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

There are some spots that don't adhere. I complained with through amazon and they sent a whole new order. I have not used another one though cause the spots are not intrusive on the screen.

Pics with bumper. http://imgur.com/a/c3Mvu

I can't help ya out there. I bought a cheap TPU case on Amazon. I've generally been pretty content with then, TPU case as they provide adequate protection for small drops, protect the camera bump, and don't add much bulk. Here is the one I bought.

https://www.amazon.com/Cimo-Matte-Premium-Protective-Motorola/dp/B01LDI4MPG/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&dpID=4169pW2ZLVL&dpPl=1&keywords=moto%20z%20play%20case&pi=SY200_QL40&qid=1479734846&ref=plSrch&ref_=mp_s_a_1_...

Might help others if you provide more details about what type of case you're looking for.

I don't think you'll like the case I have for the reasons you dislike your own case but here it is anyway: amazon uk link. It appears to provide solid protection although I haven't dropped my phone yet to test, and the camera does still protrude but at least now it's protected.

It's actually the backplate that came with the phone, I just bought a roll of carbon fiber vinyl, applied it with the help of a space heater, and then "trimmed" the edges, which was almost more like shaving off the excess. Worked way better then I expected TBH.

Amazon link to carbon fiber roll: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0059XCVVO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_2L1Ryb2VGJV8F

Are you going for overkill protection, then?

If so, I got this one from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Hybrid-Rubber-Plastic-Defender/dp/B01MDO6T5F

It's anti impact and very sturdy.

It does make the phone a little heavy though, so keep that in mind.

you can get them for cheaper on amazon, but they're no name brands with like bluetooth 3.0. But all of the known brands cost upwards of $60. I'm not going to compare a brand like moto/lenovo to a $20 bluetooth controller from amazon, shipped directly from china because it's apples to oranges in term of reputability and build quality. Comparing this mod to something like a Moga which is more equal in terms of quality, $40 is the cheapest I ever see them and $80 is still not bad because you don't have to deal with the flakiness of wireless connectivity and the crappy mounting system, as well as the fact that moga's use a proprietary app to use the hardware. Which means that if that app isn't updated well, the controller is useless and as you'll see in the reviews, that's a common complaint. Comparing it to an actual similar product like this one and the moto is actually cheaper despite being an oem part for the phones that use it.

How about either of these? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Z-Type-C-to-3-5-mm-and-charger-2-in1-Headphone-Jack-USB-C-Adapter/282489851364 https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Supports-Charging-Reversible-Connector/dp/B072JC1VLD

I purchased the one from eBay (still waiting for it) and am considering the one from Amazon.

Here's a hard case that reminds me of the old Gameboy Carrying case. This holds two mods.

• https://www.amazon.com/CASEMATIX-Phone-Carry-Holds-Motorola/dp/B077THFP5Q

Also, like the other commenter posted, Verizon has a durable case that holds up to six mods with a zippered side for cables and accessories. Not sure if it would hold the gamepad mod, definitely not in the pocket, as it's really tall, but other mods would probably hold fine. Amazon has it for $35, but I got mine at Verizon for $29.

• https://www.amazon.com/Moto-Mods-Carrying-Case-Black/dp/B01M2Y2AET

Look for a case that either has a hole you could clip a lanyard to or a belt clip that you could connect to. There are plenty of option s on Amazon. When my husband and I first got our Z Forces, we used this method when playing Pokemon Go. This is the case style he used. Just clipped a lanyard to the top piece.

Amazon has them for cheaper than Moto.

And of course, the price started falling AFTER I bought it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J9SSS6Q/ - Projector for ~130 USD

The Zoom Camera was $150, I want to say. It's up in price right now, though.

The batteries are still there, or should be.

(I find the other mods too gimmicky - I don't need Alexa, HP Sprocket and new Polaroid printers outdo the mod there, and Bluetooth speakers are all too common)

First off, do not remove the existing "protector", it's meant to be a permanent part of the screen. Second, when you buy a glass protector, I recommend getting one with glue/adhesive on the whole screen, not simply the edges (sometimes called a dot matrix style) as you will notice a difference with touch sensitivity. I use this one from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071FQGXZQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_baoTCbN3JZFNF

I use Volta 2.0 magnetic cables for all of my devices. They work with Android Auto (though sometimes I do have to unplug and replug) and support fast charging. Since the company is based in Australia their products are a little hard to get right now but they do have a few items on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NGKW8Q3/

I also used their Volta XL cables for my T480, have since day one. I had several replaced with the newer XLi version but Volta has a lifetime warranty (though I had to pay for shipping and a $10 fee per cable to upgrade to the XLi version). Very happy with their products and support.

You bet it does, I've tested it. Gotta have headphones plugged in to act as the antenna, but it definitely works.

Here's the app it uses: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.fmplayer

Ah, OK. Since you made a specific point about approach not working, I didn't realize that Moto Display itself wasn't coming on in any circumstance. Try Tiles and see if that helps. The app itself doesn't let you change from the app, it just facilitates adding quick settings tiles for system and other actions. You enable the tile for adaptive display (which will make you use adb first to get permission), then go to the quick settings and tap the edit button, and drag the ambient display tile into the quick settings menu somewhere. Save and go back. Now there is a toggle in quick settings you can tap to turn on and off. It should toggle Moto Display with it, via the system ambient display that Moto has removed, but the toggle state still affects the Moto app.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rascarlo.quick.settings.tiles

Gravity Gestures is perfect for you then, I'm still using my MZP but I'm preparing to jump ship soon and Moto Actions is a must

Gravity Gestures

Yikes, yeah, they didn't tell you the truth, but better finding out now than when you order the wrong battery.

The Force has the "shatterproof" display panel, a larger battery (making the Force slightly thicker at 7mm vs 5mm), and a 21MP camera vs the 13MP on the normal Z. The battery difference is 2600mAh for the Z vs 3500mAh for the Z Force. I wished they had used a different primary model number, instead of just including it as a dash-XX notation that usually just identifies between carrier or unlocked model variations. They made the Force just a variant of the same model number, even though it's different enough it should have gotten its own model number like xt1655 or something.

Just to be sure, you're looking at the numbers right next to the charging port? I'm just trying to be sure in case someone flashed a ROM from an -03 on it (not likely, but should be possible) onto a Force for some reason, so the system is reporting the wrong model.

You can verify by installing any of the various system information apps like this one from highly respected Android kernel developer flar2 (there's many others, I just know for sure that one is 100% safe), the hardware will speak for itself, regardless of what it says in settings>system>about. Check the camera for 13 vs 21MP, and the battery size of 2600mAh vs 3500mAh. That should give you positive confirmation enough which model you have.

I don't know if it's related to the update you mentioned, but i noticed my golf GPS app becoming less accurate and slow to update over the summer. I'm guessing it's some sort of "optimization" to improve battery life.

Here's my solution: I installed GPS Connected (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.bruxo.gpsconnected), which "locks" the GPS in an active state. I just "unlock" it when I'm done golfing. It actually doesn't kill the battery as much as I expected. It probably helps that the battery in the MZP is so awesome...

Hope that helps!

Want to use that hidden front flash for notifications. Check this app out Front flash Notification

It is a really great app for having that light up when getting any notifications. Can even set up a sleep time.

Link in case that doesn't work. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trendy.frontflashnotification

Cheers for the info The screen shot has shutter time on the third slider (starting from the left). The sliders are (left to right): Focus, White balance, shutter time, ISO and Exposure Compensation.

Thanks for the copy of the camera info from that camera2 api probe. Ubfortunately, I'm not 100% sure either way from the results. It does say Support Level = Legacy which would indicate no to Camera 2 api.

If you are still willing, this app tests if the camera app I'd love to use would work.

My current thoughts are that Camera2 api support is device dependant, not camera dependant. And that the True Zoom is saving RAW files some other way to the camera2 api method.

I replied to OP, but thought you might want to know too, so I'll paste the answer here too. You can install one of many apps that allow you to add quick settings tiles, and you can add an input method button, and it brings up the box that you'd get when tapping the button on the nav bar (which is not truly disabled, but just hidden out of bounds of the screen when not in use, which is why the system expects you to use the button that you can't see). I love the one button nav, except for this oversight.

>The one button navigation screws it up, and Moto still hasn't fixed it. Luckily, it's easy to work around. > >You can install either Tiles or Quick Settings to add an input method tile to the system quick settings pull-down. Just enable the "Input Method" tile in either app, then pull down the quick settings tray, tap the pencil icon to edit, and drag it up from the bottom to where you want it. Now you have a shortcut to change the keyboard at any time. > >The apps are useful for a host of other neat quick settings tiles too, so you might find other useful tools. Some things require adb to give permission, but not the input method tile.

Use this app to really see what is going on
The internal storage monitor is useless here
Edit: as /u/greentoiletpaper said before

Good to hear that helped.

Not exactly related, but I also use a useful program called Flash WiFi. It helps you to connect to public WiFi networks without needing to go through the portal page each time. Once you have done the portal once, you usually don't need to do it again. It doesn't work for all networks, but it works for most. It also will handle turning WiFi on and off to save battery. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devicescape.acn.flashwifi

I noticed the same last week, and I don't know about the warranty, but to keep it from worsening I downloaded ui tuner and activated immersive mode. If you don't have root you need to grant permissions through a PC, with usb debugging activated on developer options, it's all explained in the app. Hope it helps.

Tiles has an immersive mode feature that works great on my Z2, as well as many other Quick Tile tweaks that are really useful.

Try Helium,, I used it before rooting my phone. It allows you to save your backup to cloud so you should be able to transfer it to your new phone.

You can add a shortcut with an app called Tiles. It is currently free. You need root or ADB setup on your computer to initialize the functionality. Details are in the app description.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rascarlo.quick.settings.tiles

I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.immersive&hl=en sometimes with certain apps to avoid burn in issues. Root supposedly not required. Swiping up brings back my nav bar.

Custom Navigation Bar and Fingerprint Gestures are doing the trick for me.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.superthomaslab.fingerprintgestures

Custom navigation bar allows me to set the bar to invisible to prevent white button burn in and fingerprint gestures will allow me to swipe to go back, the most commonly used button.

> Well one other user gave a May2017 patch which has 1.6 but...

I think you are mistaken. I don't think it's firmware version related, I also don't think 1.6 was part of the May 2017 security patch at all.

1.6 was rolled out via the Play Store three days ago:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.modservice

WHAT'S NEW -Adds support for the Moto Power Pack

Updated July 20, 2017

They simply have not rolled the APK out in Europe yet, it's regionally staged like so many things Moto does these days.

So you don't have to wait for a firmware update, if I'm right just grab the update APK from any Z Play world wide or just wait for them to finally roll it out globally on the Play Store, should only be a couple more days. That's as easy and harmless as updating any other system app, like Youtube or the Google app, e.g. from apkmirror. It has nothing to do with applying security patches or other system updates.

Simple Gallery for my gallery and Poweramp for audio. Well worth it.

To use the fingerprint button other than just to wake/lock the device on Moto Z Play, you can download Fingerprint Quick Action. I use it as a home and back button now.

Overall, I prefer the Z Play over G5 Plus mainly because of mods, AMOLED display + bigger size, and a better battery. Software is near identical and camera is decent enough for me to not care too much about the difference.

Gotcha. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.modservice&hl=en this here, I see it on the settings screen. Very neat!

I use Prey Anti Theft I have been using it for years. They also have a program for your computer. It used to have problems with locating my phone when my GPS was turned off, but the recent few updates have seem to fix that. It works if you are connected to just data and wifi.

If the camera isn't a concern, I'd say go for it. You can probably get decent pics with manual controls. I don't bother with the default camera app, though. I personally use Open Camera. Other than that, it's a solid device. Battery is fantastic. I usually charge every night because I do a lot of Bluetooth streaming and my job has terrible reception. Even then, I can go 2 days between a charge if I wanted to.

Does chop chop flashlight and twist camera and the Moto display work if I download the Moto actions app from the play store or restore it from a titanium/helium app backup

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.actions

I have the Custom Quick Settings app that adds extra settings to the notification shade and this is one of the options

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quinny898.app.customquicksettings&hl=en

Yes. I received it today I opted in for the google app and google play services beta program and an update for google app arrived today which activates the google assistant. But first you need to update the google play services beta. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms&ah=9w81Fo12YHs_oh7JZBejabeSXpA

I don't think so. Beyond that, the only app I have found that recognizes it at all is flash alerts 2 but that just holds it on for a second.

The OP3 definitely have better rom support, but luckily we have a few devs who work on roms for the MZP. I'm running the LineageOS rom on my phone and it works perfectly except the camera. If you really want a dark theme, rooting and using Substratum with this theme works like a charm :)

I looked closely at the specs - there are no noticeable differences in internal hardware besides battery and cameras (and mods, obviously).

You can check this here for example.

Ugh, came on here to see if there was a way to continue to use Android Auto as well. I tried downloading older APKS (back to 2021) and that didn't work (I didn't realize it was a server thing) I've tried the "Driving Mode" and it's just not the same, I've also tried installing a few "Driving" apps, the best of which seems to be AutoMate - Car Dashboard but still not loving it. It may be an alternative for you if you want to check it out. I can't figure out how to get it to "load up" when I put it in the car dock though, I'm guessing its because the incipio software was set to work with Android Auto specifically, but really have no idea. I really liked the podcast interface on Android Auto, I use "Pocketcast" for my podcasts and it seems most want to force you to Googles Podcast player, which I do NOT like.

The ram was indeed a bummer. When I saw india and some other places got a z2 variant with 6gbs of ram I hoped that would be the case for at least Force models going forward :\

Coming off a bloated z2-- I'm going to recommend Battery Guru for people wanting to extend the longevity of these phones. Helps you keep an eye on temps and healthy charging cycles.