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Pressure them to buy servers from companies that have ACTUAL, EFFECTIVE DDOS protection to start. This is now a multi billion dollar game, there’s no excuse to be renting servers from companies with terrible/non-existent DDOS protections when DDOSing has proven to be such a problem with this game. When I ran servers I rented from OVH and their DDOS protection was amazing, double digit Gbit/s attacks were unnoticeable when they occurred. They even tell you exactly how their DDOS protection works right here: https://www.ovh.com/world/anti-ddos/
I'm not an OVH customer anymore (still a few servers but not production) due to various stuff, but I still like how detailed their incident reports are (for major stuff). Like for this incident (in French) with a cooling system that killed a drive bay:
https://www.ovh.com/fr/blog/hebergements-web-post-mortem-incident-29-juin-2017/
Very recently, I have done some research into hardening the Debian derived Ubuntu image. I came across the web site of CIS Security. They published a detailed PDF describing about 200 different ways Debian Linux can be attacked and penetrated. The PDF details what the attacks are and the exact steps you can do to close the access to prevent the attack. Mind you, that this involves shutting down all open ports. Some of these ports may need to be open for your application. For instance you can't shut down port 80 on a computer that is a web server.
You should download the PDF and look thought it. CIS Security put a lot of effort into this document.
To make things even better, The good people at OVH have published on GitHub a full blown implementation of CIS Security PDF. This software allows you to run a full audit in minutes.
But wait, it gets even better. The OVH software even has a mode that will allow the software to automatically harden the OS.
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BTW, A stock Ubuntu image fails about 1/2 of the tests.
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I ran a large-ish gaming community a few years back. We would get skiddiots try to DDoS us every few weeks because we banned them for breaking the rules. The average age of the aforementioned skiddiots was about 14. It was amusing to watch them get really mad when they realised that our provider's DDoS mitigation system was splatting their requests before they even hit our server.
Where did you get THESE figures from? 175$ per month for 2 TB bandwidth? Are you transmitting from moon?
DigitalOcean: $10 droplet = 2TB, $15 = 3TB transfer ovh Charges for extra bandwidth, not transfer. 1 Gbps = $105 / month
Only the overpriced hipster Cloud providers charge insane amounts for everything, including bandwidth and transfer. But it's then your fault to complain that you can't keep up with server cost if you choose to go this way.
Tu ouvres un nom de domaine, tu as accès à un compte mail de 5Go. Un .ovh ça coûte 1,99€ par an et c'est hébergé en France. Sinon si tu veux un .info ou un .fr c'est un peu plus cher mais toujours abordable.
I've built a ceph cluster with raw 100TB storage and that's generally considered peanuts
>With an average of 2.7 PB, over 25% of all installs are larger than 1 Petabyte
We're renting bunch of different machines but the storage is mostly in these
If you want the data replicated 3 times and some real HA stuff then you'll be at 1kusd/m otherwise about 300usd/m
It'll be cheaper to buy servers in the long run so I'd advise you look at that route if you have the space and can deal with the noise.
non ça veut juste dire qu'ils ont pris un nom de domaine de compagnie à 7€ par an... Tu crois que, par exemple, Jeuxvideo.com ou Madmoizelle.com sont états-uniens ?
Dailymotion (malgré son nom bien anglais) a bien son siège social en France : https://www.dailymotion.com/fr/about
Aie aie aie, surtout que c'est leur deuxième incident de grande envergure cette année (le premier était moins important mais tout de même)
https://www.ovh.com/fr/blog/hebergements-web-post-mortem-incident-29-juin-2017/ (Lien en cache Google vu que le site ovh.com est down)
Old IP was 87.98.147.254 and my client tried port 10800. This IP belongs to OVH, (https://www.ovh.com/) a large french hoster.
Today my client successfully connects to the new IP is 178.32.126.73 on port 10000. It is another IP but still hosted owned OVH.
Bandwidth would be the vast majority of the cost, always.
> - Data transfer: $0.09 per GB during upload, download is free
With AWS. 10TB * 1024 * $0.09 = $921. Not cheap on AWS.
With that much data, you'd be better off running one of these OVH servers, as OVH does not charge for bandwidth. If they offer windows directly on it, you could do that. Or install windows as a VM. Edit: or Google Compute Platform as noted in the OP.
For me, with <1TB on Buttdrive (that took 2 months to upload!!, crappy home internet), AWS came in under $100.
For those looking to get a server with more bandwidth for relatively cheap, OVH sells a VPS slice for $2.99/mo with effectively unlimited bandwidth (100Mbps up to 10TB of bandwidth, then 1Mbps). Granted, that's $30/year not $10.
https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml
Edit: As /u/FlashingBulbs pointed out, it's important to have diversity in the Tor network. So on that note, OVH is not the only place that sells VPS slices for cheap. Green Value Host is another one, at $4/mo for 5TB: http://www.greenvaluehost.com/unmanagedvps.html
Based on the Minecraft hardware recommendations and a quote from OVH, $400 will get you 4 servers that can deal with 10000+ players each for a month.
https://www.kimsufi.com/fr/index.xml
Ils proposent des offres mutualisées pour quelques euros par mois et des petits serveurs dédiés pour quelques dizaines d'euros.
Si t'as la fibre et que la dispo n'est pas une grande priorité tu dois pouvoir te monter une machine chez toi pour moins de 100€.
> I was originally thinking that hosting it myself would be a good way to save money.
Generally, nope. Electricity costs alone may make this a loss. If your laptop uses 50W, that's 35kWh/month, which may cost more than cheap hosting plans.
OVH offers a VPS with 20GB of storage and 2GB RAM for 3.85USD/month. With average US electricity price (12cent/kWh), the electricity for your laptop @ 50W will cost 4.32$ a month...
You can learn a lot by hosting stuff at home, and I am by no means against it, but the motivation should probably not be doing it in the cheapest way, but rather learning...
I'm with B2 (using restic). It's been fine for me.
Another contender for the cheapest price is OVH's Cloud Archive. They charge less for storage but there are bandwidth charges in both directions (B2 charges for download only). Can't claim to have experience with it though.
Pretty sure that server has a 1Gbps Public NIC and 10Gbps Vrack NIC.
According to this page https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/details-servers-range-HOST-id-2016-HOST-32H.xml
Bandwidth 250 Mbps
Traffic Unlimited
Burst 1 Gbps
Network card vRack 1x 10 Gbps - 3Gbps guaranteed bandwidth
Vrack is useful if say for example you have 2 Host 32-H servers from OVH, and you want to exchange data between the two servers a lot, you can activate Vrack on both servers, and it will give you 10Gbit connectivity between the 2 servers of which 3Gbit bandwidth is guaranteed at any time. If you don't use Vrack, then the connectivity between the two servers is over the public 1Gbit interface.
Also OVH no longer guarantees full OVH to OVH bandwidth after the SP-64-D fiasco. So after the burst period, if your server gets capped to 250Mbit upload, your internal OVH to OVH bandwidth could get capped to 250Mbit as well. If it does, you'd just have to deal with it. If you're lucky, it'll stay at full 1Gbit.
Okay, it appears their site hosting is handled by https://www.ovh.com/ca/en/ which is different from who holds their domain. Domain was/is enom.com
OVH, like enom also states in its terms of service that it can suspend/terminate service for any reason they choose:
> OVH reserves the right to restrict, limit or suspend its services without prior notice nor indemnity if it appears that the Customer uses the services provided for any activity which violates the terms and conditions of the Agreement with OVH or the Service objectives.
So not only can the domain host choose to stop hosting the domain, the webhosting service where the content is hosted has the same clause in their agreement.
What am I missing here, then?
> Domaine .(fr|eu) : 1 an à 0 € HT/an, puis 9,99 € HT/an (11,99 € TTC).
Bien plus cher qu'OVH : le .fr à 5.49€ HT par an. Et avec toute l'infra et les services d'OVH derrière.
Very satisfied with the palette of services provided by OVH. They are a french company that has just set foot in the US. Of course, you can choose your data center locations.
https://www.ovh.com/world/vps/vps-ssd.xml
I'd recommend the 'VPS SSD 3'.
- I've used it personality and it works perfectly fine for modded minecraft with low player-count. The only way you'll make it lagg is with overkill machine setups and if you all move in 4 different directions for map generation, but once generated its fine.
- Really cheap.
If you need help to set it up on linux I'd be glad to help a hand, I'll get you going in under 15 minutes :)
On the other hand:
I recently build my own home-server and it idle's at around 23 - 26 watts and 28 - 33 watts(when running a server). Of-course boosts to whatever necessary when playing. I paid around 800$ for the entire server: Ryzen 2700X, 16Gb ram, 250Gb SSD, 450W Gold PSU. And the monthly energy costs are around +- 10$ tops. (Energy is really expansive in my area, so it'll be around 4 or 5$ for u I think)
10Gbit, high traffic usage, I can suggest u/Andy10gbit or Chmuranet. Chmura may not like you if you go super hard on your slot.
u/Andy10gbit recently posted a sale here https://redd.it/8rt1ro
You can check it out or try and contact him. I know u/jibrail18 has an OVH 10gbit unmetered server and he once posted he's able to push more than 1PB upload per month. I think his OVH server is something like this but with additional 2x480GB SSD https://www.ovh.com/ca/en/dedicated-servers/details-servers-range-INFRA-id-EG-128-S.xml
I'd suggest contacting Andy for his Nforce Class 1 offerings, they'd be more suitable for you.
I can tell you that 12GB ram is not needed. Also i have a question. Do you live in the US or Canada?
AWS is nice dont get me wrong. But you might find a cheaper deal other places. I personally use a VPS from OVH.
https://www.ovh.com/world/vps/vps-ssd.xml
I have the best VPS SSD package they offer.
2 vCore(s) 2.4 GHz 8 GB RAM 40 GB SSD 100 mb/s
Are you familiar with setting up a factorio server in a linux environment?
OVH (https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/) offers VPS for 10$/month. This is by far the cheapest option.
- 2 vCore(s)
- 3.5 GHz
- 2 GB RAM
- 40 GB SSD
- 2 TB traffic
I am currently setting up a NavTech server on the servers. It is quite easy with the guide I made: https://navtechservers.com/tutorials/written-tutorials/navtech-tutorial/
Just remember we are currently on 4.0.6 so change that. Also the OVH VPS is by default on Root. I recommend creating a user with sudo permission. That is not hard, here you can find out how: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-a-sudo-user-on-ubuntu-quickstart
Perhaps a brief lesson on network services config may be beneficial here :)
the port your network service is configured to use on the internet is determined by the port forwarding config on your router. web browsers are by default statically configured to use port 80 for unencrypted http traffic and port 443 for https.
Your dns config largely just advises which ip address to query for the network service but dns does not provide the port number of any network service. Client applications always query whichever network port they are configured or programmed to utilize.
dns A records can also be configured to any domain or subdomain you desire. so if you require a dns domain for your lan to access your webserver you can make a dns subdomain A record configured with a lan IP address.
www.domain.tld A -> <wanip>
domain.tld A -> <wanip>
dev.domain.tld A -> <lanip>
Now if your using domain based virtual hosting config with apache or ngnix this may not be ideal especially if your router is not cooperating and using domain based virtual hosting is more often than not the ideal configuration. since your router may not permit you to load your public wan ip from within your lan network you may have some frustrations if this is the situation.
If there is a way to permit accessing your wan ip from within your lan your router may or may not be capable of doing so. Depending on the model of your router you may be able to flash your router with open firmware such as LEDE which would significantly "upgrade" the software capabilities and firewall. My router runs LEDE firmware and i'm fairly certain this does work for LEDE.
If all options are exhausted you might also consider just renting a Linux VPS. having a vps hosted in a proper datacenter has a lot of benefits.
For $8/mo i can host my own web services, databases, openvpn service, game servers and mumble voip server.
First and foremost: > There are 10,000 users video chatting with each other in real time(No webcams, only phone to phone).
Directly to each other (p2p) or your server is involved in that communication? Because this can be a HUGE resource hog. Considering you just said:
> Everything will be live and the data will be deleted a few minutes after the broadcast is complete.
Deleted after a few minutes would imply you are saving that on a server aka it's directly involved into communication between users.
Now, this would be an equivalent of few thousands live streams at once. Video transmission isn't exactly my specialty but assuming some typical compression done on users side (let's say x264) and relatively low resolution (1024x768 for instance) you probably will want 800 Kbps bandwidth per stream. Or 100 KB/s. Times 10000 - 800x10000 = 8 000 000 Kbps. Or almost 8Gb/s.
8Gb/s is not something you can find in a typical server (or rather - sure, you can get even 40Gbps... but generally not to the internet). You will need multiple machines (preferably spread geographically). OVH has a pricelist on bandwidth actually - apparently 3Gbps costs $300 a month. This times 3 - $900 a month.
That + servers that can actually handle this load (how long recordings are you planning to store and for how long?) - something with 64GB RAM + 2 SATA SSDs (or 5-6 hard drives) can do it. You will of course need some load balancing and redundancy.
So if you want to actually deal with ANY kind of recording data then you better be prepared to spend thousands a month for raw infrastructure... as for app itself - this isn't something an individual developer can do, you will need a company and 3-6 months of their time for a working prototype. Hard to give you quote on that - 30k $ sounds fair for a working prototype I guess?
What kind of content are you serving? If it's all static you could host on github pages for free and mask the URL with your domain.
Alternatively you could get a cheap VPS, install apache, php, and mysql and run whatever website you want.
I use OVH for dedicated servers, but I'm going to presume their lower-end services are just as reliable.
Go for this bad boy: https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-ssd.xml
Unfortunately you don't have any other options than a VPS at that price point.
OVH does ok, for 5-10 players you'll be totally fine at the 13/mo vps
A little detail on the website will explain it very well: OVH reselling
Take a look at the OVH website for the OVH price, add some what reseller discount, the price is somewhat legit.
Here is a write up I did from a previous post.
Shared hosting:
www.minecrafted.net - Cheap, but good luck with support.
www.mpserv.net - A little bit more expensive, good support, good panel.
Only two I am really familiar with.
VPS/Dedicated Server
https://www.ovh.com/us/index.xml - Cheap, decent hardware for the price, excellent support in my experience.
http://www.securedservers.com - Pretty good prices, no experience with their vps' though.
https://www.digitalocean.com/ - Use them currently for a vps, runs great. VPS has not went down in about 3 months.
>"The server needs $524 this month to cover expenses. Donate if you can."
What the hell do they need that kind of money for? For comparison:
For $110 a month, you can get a 4 core zeon @ 3.7 GHz with 64 GB of RAM.
For $400 a month, you can get 20 cores and 256 GB of RAM.
Evo primera: https://www.ovh.com/world/
Možeš i Hetzner ako nije ništa ozbiljno, mada ne preporučujem ni pod razno ako je produkcija u pitanju
Mnogo ozbiljnije od ovoga i AWSa su Google serveri, nema između
EDIT: Možeš pogledati i ovo ako te zanimaju neke naše lokacije (koje su neisplative jako, bolje uzeti od Bugara, jači anti ddos a ping skoro isti) https://www.sox.rs/en/
There are a bunch of problems with your hopefully unwitting flex on /u/BB611, here, and you're framing your counter-points in a pretty shitty and smarmy way, if I'm honest.
His claim that "water" doing millions of dollars of damage is not incorrect or necessarily spreading misinformation. Even if the fluid is completely non-conductive, some bad fittings, leaks, or just accidents, can be costly. Imagine expensive racks or systems with inadequate amounts of coolant flowing through them, due to leaks/bubbles, pump issues, evaporation, contamination, whatever. Millions in damages can amount from manpower/time/specialization for correction/repair, business downtime, and finally sure, actual hardware/property damage. But my point is that it isn't always "water leaking on shit and breaking it" kind of costs.
The OVH link you provided is one of two parts of a series of waterblock blog posts, nothing to do with immersion cooling, or use of dielectric fluid. It doesn't come up in part two, and I don't think there's a part three - https://www.ovh.com/blog/water-cooling-from-innovation-to-disruption-part-ii/
Immersion and Dielectric don't come up in OVH's searches, either so... do they do immersion cooling anywhere yet? It looks very much like a lot of custom-fab water loops. They even got burned with a watercooling leak: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/13/watercooling_leak_killed_vnx_array
That clearly indicates that that datacenter was not using a non-conductive fluid (yet?), or immersing its systems. Sure, it's three years ago, but it's evidently classical watercooling with waterblocks.
Having said all that, I'm hopeful for wider adoption and development into more radical cooling solutions than air, and still think OVH is doing really cool shit there (so, thanks for sharing). I just think you have to reel it in a bit and not come off on everyone like they're bad-faith actors.
I know you're saying you want DigitalOcean, but $40 puts you in the range for some fine servers, for example this one from one of OVH's brands:
https://www.soyoustart.com/us/game-servers/
It's worth mentioning that the plan you're using right now is also originally from OVH:
https://www.ovh.com/world/dedicated-servers/game/1901mc03.xml
Keep in mind that you can lease the following, month to month for $85 and no set up fee:
Intel Xeon-E 2136 - 6c/ 12t - 3.3GHz/ 4.5GHz
32GB DDR4 ECC 2666MHz
2X4TB HDD or 2X500GB SSD NVMe
500Mbps unmetered (burst to 1Gbps)
https://www.ovh.com/world/dedicated-servers/advance/adv-2/
Depending on your server specs, there are even much lower priced examples
So whatever it is you decide to do with these, the value is going to be significantly less than that, given the added value of going with OVH as opposed to "some guy from Reddit". Also this assumes the need for a dedicated server.
That said, potentially you could find some people interested in you hosting their Plex server (if you upgraded the storage) or local businesses interested in having you host their websites (requires work of building their websites).
Ditch the stale starter, go straight to the main course:
https://www.ovh.com/world/dedicated-servers/game/1901mc01.xml
Your patreon is sitting at $59, not that much more until you can afford true single thread performance!
May seem like overkill, but great single thread performance with 4 cores and plenty of RAM will get you a long way. Possible modded and other game servers without any hickups!
Edit: Do you only get $30 from those $59 or did it just go up after creating the post?
Edit^2: Should germany be an acceptable server location, the best german hosting provider has auctions: https://www.hetzner.com/sb
I'm a big fan of OVH's services if you haven't given them a look yet, they often have discounted hardware too (last year's model, typically). They have DCs in Frankfurt and Strasbourg.
Best advice here! "Start smaller" - this will give you a taste and some ideas and you can expand from there. OVH (https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/) also has very cheap VPS's ($3.50/month) for toying with. If you do something wrong and royally screw it up, it's just a few clicks to rebuild the server from scratch.
>I have a computer with a small SSD that I don't want to use for Linux, but also don't want to buy a USB drive to run it on as well. Would a service like AWS or Azure be a good place to host a VM running Linux, or should I just buy a thumb drive?
Having local access when using Linux does have many advantages if your in need of or would benefit from use of a GUI. remote access to the GUI in Linux really doesn't work as easily or as securely by default as say remote desktop does in windows.
I'be been using Linux for 20 years and the vast majority of my remote access to Linux is entirely command line because remote access to a graphical desktop environment is a pain in the ass to configure to use securely.
I do have a vps with amazon EC2 but i really wouldn't recommend amazon ec2 vps services for any other benefits than offering a 1 year free term. Free is good but you can get much better vps service offerings elsewhere if you desired a usable vps. personal recommendation for ovh.com
Amazon's free tier vps offers the weakest vps server configuration i've ever had the displeasure of using and the tools to install your own Linux install are overly complicated bordering on frustration.
If you break your amazon vps you may just cry and give up.
1 cpu core and 1GB of ram with a heavily throttled hard disk I/O setup.
Overall having physical hardware is just ideal. You always have recourse to recover your Linux install should something malfunction with the software config and your not sharing bare metal hardware resources.
They need to find a monetization method if they're gonna stay afloat, servers cost a lot of money and don't come cheap, this is an ongoing operational cost that they can't sustain with just unit sales, and even then more unit sales means more servers so it adds to costs if anything.
Now I'm not saying chest and key is the answer, I think it's a terribly annoying business model and borders on aggressive advertising for gambling, but they definitely need microtranscations, if they can do it in a better way than this chest/key bullshit then it'll be great, if not then I guess players will vote with their wallets if they think this is acceptable or not.
A domain name and hosting are different things. You can just buy the domain name itself and point it to whatever machine you want.
Unless you are not comfortable in doing that and you just want a simple "all in one package" then this is definitely the way to go.
For example https://www.ovh.com is a nice entry level host but you would have to buy the domain name separately from some latvian domain name provider.
EDIT: Also you haven't told us what it's for. Is it going to be a blog for someone's mother to read or is it going to be a webshop where uptime is critical?
How do you think the people selling accounts with idled hours do it? Obviously they use a VPS to do it instead of leaving the game open on their own PC. A cheap VPS costing just a few bucks a month can easily idle dosens of accounts simultaneously.
I would only get AWS if I had something so big that I could make use of their API to pop in and out servers on the run, and only paying for the real time that they've been holding players inside.
At the moment I host my servers at OVH and Digital Ocean, which I found out to be the best solutions, based on other .io games developer background like hordes.io and wilds.io, they both use OVH and Digital Ocean. All of my servers use Ubuntu & run over NodeJS + Socket.io.
For starting, I recommend using these OVH VPS machines, on my country they're cheaper tho.
I am curious tho, on what bigger developers (agar.io, slither.io) use, would be worth a mention :)
Tips to keep prices down? Well, analyze what's your server resource consumption for a single player and just calc exactly what you'd need for X number of players online. Don't be stupid like me and get bigger servers when your playerbase doesn't use half of the resources :)
At first, don't use GoDaddy. Never ever.
For the domain registration Namecheap is a way to go.
For the hosting: you have few alternatives (assuming your project is not for hundred thousand visitors):
1) Use shared hosting where hosting provider already preconfigured everything for you, but you don't have much control.
2) VPS or cloud VPS. There you may need to learn a bit of linux and ssh, but you may install there any kind of server environment you need.
There you have few choices: Digital Ocean and cheaper alternative Scaleway allow you to choose from existing images for different development stacks. It may be easier for you if you're still learning. Digital ocean has bigger developer community and more options.
OVH VPS https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/ - cheap and has enough resources.
At the end, you may add free cloudflare CDN to deliver your content to the end-users faster and he we go - you have a website for $40-60 per year. And you may add more websites to the same server later.
Usually, two types of networks are available from large vendors, Volume & Premium.
Here is Leaseweb's definition:
https://kb.leaseweb.com/display/KB/Network+types
OVH is more cagey about it:
Beyond the speed, what are the differences between the 3 bandwidth offers?
>With the Premium, Platinum and Ultimate offers, you benefit from the performance of the OVH network across ever-expanding geographical boundaries. Beyond the OVH infrastructure, you switch onto other provider networks so that you get the guaranteed speed for your chosen offer.
(from their FAQ: https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/faq.xml#choix-bp )
Generally premium network is a mix of three or more Tier 1 backbone carriers, and traffic is not aggregated. Volume on the other hand isn't premium, in Leaseweb's case, it has only 1x tier one carrier with switch port aggregation (traffic mixing).
Smaller vendors, like i3d don't have the luxury of having two different distinct networks, they generally just have their mix.
Hope that helps
Install MySQL on a VultR/DigitalOcean/OVH .
Also, Amazon RDS for MySql https://aws.amazon.com/en/rds/mysql/
Beware, hosting in the US comes at a hefty price privacy/security wise if you have EU data. Not sure how it's gonna play out with the Brexit.
Also, I can't see UK hosts that would be pricier than the in the US ?
https://www.ovh.com/us/about-us/datacenters.xml
"OVH data centers are situated outside the Patriot Act jurisdiction area"
https://www.ovh.com/us/news/articles/a891.the_patriot_act_10_years_of_uncertainty
$10/month? A few players and plugins? You definitely want to consider an OVH SSD VPS.
I know, that's a lot of acronyms.
The only real downside I've found to those is that the CPU performance is generally not stellar (but with a low player/plugin count it won't be bad), and that the storage space you get is pretty small (but again, with only a few players and plugins, this shouldn't be an issue).
Yeah, something that can auto-scale horizontally and vertically would be great (avoid the constant AVSIM slowdowns). I would lean towards Amazon Web Services (certified, and use it daily at work), but bandwidth is pretty spendy. Perhaps something like OVH's Object Storage (https://www.ovh.com/us/cloud/storage/object-storage.xml) or just straight up build a storage cluster so we get flat rates for bandwidth. (For me download speeds need to be as fast as we can get it without compromising cost too much).
Software-wise, I'm a fan of IP.Board (see: IP.Downloads) and have a couple spare licenses lying around, and done right I've seen it scale pretty well (can auto-store uploaded files in Object Storage if we choose).
Data integrity is crucial as well, I don't have the fastest upload at home in case we need to restore, but I've got 100Mbps downstream and 20TB of storage in-house for cheap/free backups.
OVH has a number of brands. Kimsufi is their bargain brand thats limited to 100mbps, they also operate SoYouStart which is their middle tier and of course they have OVH which is their premium line.
Their premium servers can be found on the website below - they are all on 1Gbps ports and have 1Gbps OVH to OVH connections (excluding Kimsufi/SoYouStart) however their base package only guarantees 250MB or 500MB connections to the rest of the internet: https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/
If you want 100% true 1Gbps access you can spend an extra $52.50 to unlock 1Gbps OVH -> Internet speeds: https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/guaranteed-bandwidth.xml
So, pick the cheapest server @ $70, and pay for the premium bandwidth upgrade for a total of $122.50/month. There are some resellers who have access to older hardware that can probably get you a better deal, but expect to still spend around $100/month.
Actually, it does have SLA Guarantee (in the control panel). It is "scalable", the way digitalocean is (but billed monthly).
What it doesn't have:
Snapshots (need to get their cloud range for that). Can't change location. Low disk space (40GB for the highest one). I didn't ever feel the need for support, so dunno.
Source: I have their 8gb plan for a month now. Pretty good, no downtime yet. Running proxmox on it.
This range is what you need to be looking for: https://www.ovh.com/ca/en/vps/vps-cloud.xml
In 2013, a french hosting provider (OVH) released some stats on distribution usage, Ubuntu was second with 17% (behind Debian). They are not irrelevant in the cloud, and certainly not in the desktop.
https://www.ovh.com/fr/news/a1264.systemes-exploitation-os-serveurs-dedies-ovh
(graphics in french, not sure there is an english version but I think it's pretty clear, first list is usage, the other distro list is growth)
Les adresses mail doivent être créés sur l'interface OVH car c'est elle qui configure ton serveur mail.
Tu as lu ça ? : https://www.ovh.com/fr/emails/hosted-exchange-2013/guides/
Thanks for the answer!
Unfortunately I'm winging it. When I searched for ovh https certificate or ovh ssl it always directs me into that ssl-gateway. How else could I generate these certficates? There's no other documentation other than this thing and caddy docs. I'm not following any tutorials as there are none with OVH.
OVH is cheap and that was the only reason I bought a domain there. But if the SSL stuff is offloaded on OVH, how can I use it with caddy's reverse proxy then?
Hi! It's a lovely initiative.
I think you prefer a website with its proper domain -right? You can opt for OVH (about 31€/year), and they have this page: Creating a website.
I would go with the INFRA-2 from OVH. When you configure it with 64gb of RAM it costs exactly $150.99/m. The CPU is basically the server equivalent to an i9 9900k with a higher clock speed.
Hi, I system administrate SMP.
We're currently running a dedicated server machine hosted by https://www.ovh.com
The specs are:
Intel Xeon E3-1270v6 32 GB DDR4 ECC (2133mhz) - I allocate about 12gb to SMP Live
Running on Linux Debian 9.4
As far as I know, which host is the most popular has only really varied in the shared hosting space over the years. For dedicated servers (and probably VPS as well), it has been OVH and its subsidiaries SoYouStart and Kimsufi for as long as I can remember.
pas de soucis, et je vais peut-être éclairer ta journée en t'apprenant (peut-être) qu'il y a aussi des noms de domaines en .bzh (Bretagne) !!
On trouve aussi .paris, et plein d'autres pour les DOM-TOM (.re, .mq, .wf)...
Et on n'oublie pas mon préféré, .sexy (mais un peu cher juste pour faire une blague ^^)
Le S3 One-Zone IA c'est quand même pas bien cher si t'as pas pas plusieurs trop de TB (~10 €/TB par mois sans retrieve et c'est n'est que sur une AZ donc risqué), sinon prends un ovh dédié avec 2 potes, ça reviens pas trop cher et tout le monde peut faire ses backups chiffrés dessus.
Pour 12 mois d'engagement c'est 77.59€ par mois pour 4 * 4 TB SATA + 500 GB en NVMe sur celui là https://www.ovh.com/fr/serveurs_dedies/advance/adv-stor-1/
They have been solid for me so far (for my needs), a nice step up from my previous Servint VPS. I've personally had no downtime or performance issues so far. https://i.imgur.com/6Y27TDE.png
I took the VPS SSD 2, which is a 4GB RAM, 40GB SSD. With an extra drive it runs me around $15 USD/mo total.
As I mentioned earlier, it works well for my needs, which are basically hosting my personal website and hosting my other app domains. If you have similar needs, I think OVH is worth considering
> https://www.ovh.com/world/vps/vps-ssd.xml
Ah, thanks. I was looking on the SYS site.
> But you should test the box before buying the VPS.
Probably good advice.
The main reason I am wondering about the vps is that it sounds like the 5mbps limit might be an issue for plex, at least for 1080p streams. But if I am understanding the comments in that thread, that is only a limitation for external connections.
If I understand what you were suggesting earlier, you could get the VPS and mount the storage server as a remote drive to work around the limitation. Is that correct?
Ahh, sorry I must have cut out the host name in editing. OVH is the name of the host I use. Under the Web drop down are VPS SSDs available that will handle a small server nicely. They have much pricier options available, but their SSD3 package has served me very well. Just note that if you want to install Dynmap you should put it on low res to start, because it will blow through your entire disk eventually.
There have been a few suggestions (including myself) to use a dedicated server and possibly a host company. I would like to post who i use for ALL of my dedicated servers.
https://www.ovh.com/world/vps/vps-ssd.xml
These are all Linux based (various disros) so many of these host companies are renting bare minimum spec servers with tiny amounts of RAM, SSH/HDD space, and a price that doesnt match well. OVH is not like that at all. They are based in Canada and their servers are awesome. I ran a 100-200 person Minecraft server off of their VPS.
Something to keep in mind though. All of the setup is manual. So you will need knowledge of Linux to at least start using it. However, with a good guide you should be able to pretty easily get a factorio server setup. I personally have a server going now (its private) that we use to play our games. I am sure if you were to ask or google around you could quickly and easily get a good server put together for next to nothing out of pocket per month.
They are not a subscription like most companies however. They dont auto-renew your services. That is up to you. This is so that you can just not re-new the VPS and it doesnt put a bad mark on your account.
I could likely write a book on how much i enjoy their service.
Ha, ça a déjà plus d'allure. Même à ça j'irais plutôt avec un VPS SSD 1 d'OVH à la place. On a plusieurs VPS chez OVH, ça plante jamais mais ça reboot une fois de temps en temps.
>Et plus dérangeant, le fait d'annoncer l'incident clos au bout de 4h alors que pas mal d'infra client étaient encore totalement inaccessible ou a minima inexploitable.
Heu ? Une source pour ça ? Car là je vois que l’incident a été clos il y a à peine 10 heures.
>Avec un post-mortem quand tout est vraiment fini accompagné du plan d'action pour corriger.
https://www.ovh.com/fr/news/presse/cp2555.point_suite_aux_deux_incidents_du_9_novembre_2017
Ha! Good luck. Our monthly bill from OVH is right around $20k and they don't give a damn about crediting us when they knock out our application cause someone unplugged a rack.
The applicable SLA terms are here. But like I said... good luck. We've had to fight tons of runaround to get a credit so I can only imagine the hell they put smaller customers with only a handful of VPS'.
For medium network usage I use OVH for the $3.49 a month server, they include unmetered 100Mbps. For heavy usage (game servers, streaming, huge file downloads, I prefer the OVH SoYouStart range, with 250Mbps unmetered for about ~$40 a month.
Buy an OVH dedicated server.
You have 100% access and do not share with any other users so the uptime will be damn near 100% and you can fix any problems that happen immediately and not have to wait for support.
https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/all_servers.xml - take a look at which you prefer, more RAM or HDD space or CPU.
500Mb/s guaranteed, burstable up to 1Gbps and unlimited and great peering.
You can seed from the cloud for those long-term files that rarely get any downloaders.
You cannot use public trackers on OVH far as I know, and you have no reason to - once you go private, you never go back.
Hey! To host a website, you do not need much and indeed the solutions are not lacking.
You have solutions that allow you to easily host a single website with a db. You can even find this kind of accommodation for free. The only constraint is that it forces you to have a web address like "mywebsitename.hostweb.com".
I advise you to use a free service if you are really at the beginning of your training. But if you want to move forward, you can move to more configurable and paying offers: https://www.ovh.com/fr/hebergement-web/
I would suggest you to find a good Object Storage service. I can recommend you OVH's object Storage: https://www.ovh.com/us/public-cloud/storage/object-storage/ . It got triple data replication (files are stored in three different datacenters). Or you can try Amazon S3 or even Digital Ocean's Object storage: https://www.digitalocean.com/products/object-storage/
To reach other internet networks, you need a place where multiple ISPs connect with each other. In the GTA this happens at TorIX in downtown Toronto (151 Front St. W), and this would be where you would get the minimal latency to anywhere.
For your Vancouver example, it depends. If both parties are on the same Canadian network (like Bell), then you will go through Canada directly (or use Bell's infrastructure through Chicago and Minneapolis). If that network has a connection at TorIX, it will take the traffic and get it to your destination (through Chicago > Denver/Bay Area). If it doesn't, then they'll probably have a connection in NYC, Ashburn VA or Chicago - so the closest one to your destination will be picked. It's pretty rare that traffic headed for the Pacific Northwest would be routed through NYC and LA, unless that network has no presence in the Midwest.
To give an idea, this map shows where Bell connects with other carriers (the "carrier colocations" blue dots), this one shows an example of global carrier Level3, and here's another one of server provider OVH to show smaller networks that may be forced to take a less optimal path (in this case, through San Jose before turning north).
They're on the expensive end for dedicated servers, but you absolutely get what you pay for. You are in full control and can run whatever the hell it is you want on it.
Shared hosting services will screw you over because they factor in the "convenience" of having someone else set up the server for you.
> I'd also like to ask what are good providers for a VPS for web hosting? All I know of are DigitalOcean
DO is ok. Since you are already an OVH customer you could go with an OVH VPS. [https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-ssd.xml]. It is a bit cheaper then DO, and have a bit more RAM. They do seem like they may be a bit slower. But it is fine for a small web site.
For backups, setup borg to go rsync.net account, their attic/borg pricing is 25GB @ $9/year, I doubt your web site will need more then that.
Install Debian, because your dedicated server is Debian, and your Minecraft server uses Debian, and that way things you learn will apply on all the systems you use. Ignore all that control panel crap, you don't need it, plus you want to be in control of things.
I'm hosting at a small, local company in Europe, so it probably won't be a good option for you.
But I know ovh has some great offers. I was looking into it before I went with my current provider. https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/
heres Kimsufi, SyS and OVH themselves. They sell real dedicated servers so availability may vary.
They also don't really put restrictions on what you can do with them if only legal so they're quite popular amongst hosting and vps companies aswell.
The only downside i see commonly noted is that they offer pretty much no support.
Get a host that will do 99% of the work for you. Means backup, version control, horizontal scaling, security patches, anti-DDoS, CDN. Wordpress specialists, a few examples:
Best choose someone you can have a human contact with, to best explain your needs/conditions/specifications. Local is always best (same timezone, legal conditions, work ethics).
You could do that yourself but once you get 100+ customers to manage all by your little self you'll break down. Your time is money, spending money for quality hosting is time sparing.
I chose OVH performance for my customers, it costs 120€/year each, but gives me:
- 1 core and 2 Go minimum
- 500 Go storage
- CDN with 19 PoP
- Unlimited bandwidth
- 4 Go DB, with 256 Mo RAM.
- daily backups, high availability, SSL, anti-DDoS
Never been a problem for any customer anywhere on the planet, you charge them for the hosting and they'll be more than happy.
Of course you can try do it yourself but with indian-quality code and marketing requirements (ressource-intensive themes) it would be an expensive risk.
I've had good luck with Exchange mailboxes at OVH.
- $3.99/month CDN
- 50 gigs storage per box
- point your own domain at it, so you get
- Connect many different clients to it, including Mac Mail, iOS and Android Apps.
- Outlook Web App for webmail interface, almost don't need a client.
I have 15 mailboxes going there so far for over a year, no problems. You need to be able to create CNAME, SRV and MX records in your domain.
Quite honestly the best free vpn is OpenVPN (software).
If your tech savvy you could set it up yourself but openvpn does have a bit of a learning curve.
Renting the VPS server host needed to run an openvpn server generally only costs around $10 usd/mo if you rent one from ovh.
Free secure vpn services available to the public that have a 1 terabyte a month data limit largely just don't exist but going this route ~can~ offer that solution.
Just curious, who is your hosting provider? I rent a dedi from SoYouStart with 32 GB of RAM, 4 TB disk space and a Xeon E3 1245v2 CPU for only $56 a month. They're soooo much cheaper than other hosting providers and I run about 4 or 5 VM's on it. If you're really serious, check out OVH Canada. Can't beat their prices vs specs. They're both OVH but SoYouStart is the entry level servers and both offer unlimited data.
They're unmanaged though, so it's all up to you to set it up.
Edit: Also look into nginx for a webserver, Apache is a pig when it comes to resources!
I think you can rent a VPS from OVH's, you got a little anti-ddos + a pretty hardware (Teamspeak isn't really CPU intensive) (https://www.ovh.com/fr/vps/vps-ssd.xml) and I think the ping beetween France and sweden aren't really terrible... The case is, for Teamspeak, you need to buy a license ! (Or try to get a non-profit one...) http://sales.teamspeakusa.com/licensing.php and... it's pretty expensive ! :') Did you really need a domain ? You can use your IP adress only, but do what you want :p
They don't have any servers in Russia.
Their data centers are in Beauharnois + Montreal (quebec), Gravelines + Roubaix + Strasbourg + Paris (France)
https://www.ovh.com/us/images/about-us/location-data.jpg
So this pretty much proves that the server is and won't be hosted in Russia and that they've been lying since the beginning.
Have you though about having an hybrid infrastructure? Cloud servers from google, aws and azur cost a lot compared to just having a dedicated server.
I do not know how your load is spread but for example you could have a standard beefy server for replay parsing and then cloud servers to handle the varying amount of traffic.
A low cost provider, OVH, have amazing prices. For example, 160$ CAD per month for 128gb of ram and a xeon with 4 cores 8 threads.
As a note for OVH in my experience the latency hasn't been that bad. Its definitely playable and I live on the west coast as well but I cannot vouch for how well the vps' fair as far as running a server off of it. Below you can find some details of my experience with hosts.
Shared hosting:
www.minecrafted.net - Cheap, but good luck with support. Not sure if they support modded servers though. Even if they support modded servers their servers tend to be on the slower side.
www.mpserv.net - A little bit more expensive, good support when I used it. I think they have support for custom jars but I am not familiar with their new panel.
Only two I am really familiar with.
VPS/Dedicated Server
https://www.ovh.com/us/index.xml - Cheap, decent hardware for the price, excellent support in my experience.
http://www.securedservers.com - Pretty good prices, no experience with their vps' though.
https://www.digitalocean.com/ - Used to use them, their vps' were great in my experience but I used them for light weight use.
According to their doc > Informations utiles > §5:
> Il n'est actuellement pas possible sur un hébergement Web d'ajouter un certificat SSL externe.
> It is not currently possible to add an external SSL certificate to web hosting.
We use OVH.com for hosting multiple modded servers. 1 box with 64GB ram 1TB HDD 110$/month. They recently added smaller boxes with Core i7 for less money. https://www.ovh.com/ca/en/dedicated-servers/game/
I've never tried them, but OVH has a 2GB VPS for $4.49/mo.
If you haven't already done so, you should also look into adding swap to your DO server, which may help stretch it out a bit.
What kind of budget do you have? Infinity is pretty intensive so I don't recommend going cheap with a VPS or GSP.
So you Start has some reasonable options for $42-60 per month. Some of the packages are out of stock and you need to wait.
If you need more performance check out OVH, the parent company of SYS. For $80 they have the MC-32 package; 32GB of memory and an i7-4790K which is top notch for a modded Minecraft server.
> Sometimes you need to open your eyes and click on some links,
This is kind of an douche statement considering that A. You never provided me with any links prior to this thread that you posted. B. You said "OVH" not "Kimsufi" not "soyoustart", you said "OVH"
So like a good boy who does some of his homework, I went to good and typed in "OVH" and clicked the link that came up which was "https://www.ovh.com/us/index.xml"
You cant say one thing, and completely mean something totally different and expect people to automatically know every subsidiary of a company.
Also, no reason to act smug, Im glad you feel superior in some way, Im sure it helps with the parent issues you may have had as a child. Thanks for providing me with information, but you really need to learn that not everyone has the act same knowledge as you, and pretending like it makes you better than other people will hurt you in the future.
It was fun though, I thought we were having an adult conversation that I enjoyed. That was well, up until you got offended that someone 'thought' your method just wasnt as good. You bore me, so don't be expecting any replies from this point on.
OVH apparently uses water cooling, and no AC.
I've got a few of their servers in their BHS datacentre, never had any unplanned downtime or heat issues.
I have used https://minecraftserver.net/ in the past and seems ok to me. The standard grass package would probably work fine.
If you don't mind configuring everything from scratch https://www.ovh.com/us/index.xml has dirt cheap VPSs.
I'm estimating the server load is going to be huge, it wouldn't surprise me if I had 10,000 people on at once. I believe it's UDP sockets and windows.
Would any dedicated server work? something like this? https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/hosting/
It is actually possible.
English version:
> Hello > > I can confirm that it is possible to change the ownership of your server. The person has that you want to assign your server must create a Kimsufi account. > > Then you must complete the procedure of change of owner and then forward it. > > The procedure is available via the following link: > https://www.ovh.com/fr/cgi-bin/fr/procedure/procedureChangeOwner.cgi > > I remain at your disposal if necessary. > > Kind regards > Mathieu H. > Support Kimsufi
Yes, it will take load off your computer. As for best company, what area are you in? I personally like getting the VPS's from OVH (East NA, but works great from West NA) but that requires some knowledge of Linux (or the willingness to learn).
I might be wrong, but I think this is the one we currently using. As far as raw processing power, there are no real upgrade options. We hit the point of diminishing returns awhile ago. Anything else that is even slightly better will be significantly more expensive.
https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/enterprise/2014-SP-64.xml
The VPS Classic 3 found at https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-classic.xml for $10.99 USD per month. This is a full virtual server with 4gb of RAM and should be able to run most any modpack server. The downside is that it takes a little more knowledge to setup as you are basically assigned a linux box with SSH access and the rest you need to setup and install yourself. But if you dont mind learning how to install services and server packages from scratch, this is the best bang for the buck I have seen.
Edit: regarding setting up the server via FTP, that will work for uploading files but you would need to open an SSH command line session to configure and launch the server. You can always install mcmyadmin for a front end server controller though which will simplify things greatly in the day to day administration.
You're not going to find anyone with reasonable pricing in Vancouver. Additionally, a lot of the smaller shops will want you to have liability insurance in case your server sets the place on fire (and this kind of insurance is super expensive.)
Astute Hosting, In2Net, W3 Media all provide service that I wouldn't consider very good. I haven't used Backbone Datavault, but I haven't heard good things about them either.
Additionally, the smaller colocation providers don't have IPv6 connectivity in Vancouver - they're all fairly amateur.
I would check out OVH, they have dedicated hosting in Quebec (~80ms from TELUS/Novus/Shaw) and they are cheaper than you are going to find for colocation in Vancouver and you don't have to pay for hardware or hardware replacement.