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they were starving to death because there was no food, no water, no buildings, and no society.

https://www.amazon.com/Savage-Continent-Europe-Aftermath-World/dp/125003356X

Blender is a free 3D software.

SFM is short for Source Film Maker.

Basically, the incel here is saying that there aren't any porn of Geralt from the girl's PoV because women are unable of using those softwares. Standard misogynistic bullshit.

It's incredible how incels manage to accuse women of being "useless" while simultaneously throwing a pity party for themselves because they are expected to work and take care of basic household responsibilities - something women have been doing without complaint for hundreds of years.

Also, even according to contemporary sources, more than a third of Puritan brides were pregnant on their wedding day. Keep crying, incels, you are mourning a past that never existed.

off topic, but Amazon has a good deal right now:

500 GB Samsung Evo

> Don't all people base their decisions/opinions about others largely on what they represent about themselves?

To an extent. However, on dating websites, 100% of the data you see on a particular person is user-submitted. You're most likely seeing their most flattering photos, their most positive spin on their personality and romantic history (if it's even offered), etc.

>Do you read what you write?

Yes.

>So patterns found within dating websites are invalid because they specifically seek partners baed on physical appearance.

No, patterns found within dating sites are perfectly valid, insofar as they describe people who use dating websites. Given that only about 15% of US citizens (to choose an arbitrary reference point) reported using dating websites based on data gathered in 2016, however, that means that this data can't realistically be construed to represent trends in the more general population - the 85% of US citizens who don't use dating websites.

>very low iq.

As tempting as it is to completely overlook this rather poor ad hominem attack, it's worth mentioning that IQ is not an accurate measure of intelligence as there are multiple domains which measure intelligence, which IQ tests do not acknowledge. A single unified intelligence "score" is in practice rather misleading since it doesn't take into account how you perform in different areas; the exact methods used to quantify this general figure inherently vary from culture to culture based on unique cultural values and economic infrastructure, so even if you can quantify them somehow, it's still not a universal value as it is contextual upon the society in which it was measured.

"lmao" indeed.

Better story:

Remember when that stupid incel was rubbing himself against a woman on the bus and she tasered the shit out of him then got off hysterically laughing?

Behold! The Turin Erotic Papyrus, a ~3200 year old depiction of Meret-Stacy getting freaky with Heka-Chad and Paneshi-Tyrone. Also, note the bonus scene in the first panel of ancient Egyptian FEMOIDS rejecting a subhuman manlet. It was OVER if you weren't taller that 5' 5" in 1200 BCE!

Edit: Link is NSFW-ish, I suppose, depending on where you work!

Honestly, I would at least give that state funded counseling program a shot, dude. I know a lot of people look down on mental health care or see it as a sign of weakness, but IMHO if you're hurting psychologically then it makes sense to seek treatment just like how you would seek treatment if you broke your arm or caught a disease.

A lot of people have feelings you do, but a lot of the times it's something like body dysmorphia.

>Signs and symptoms of body dysmorphic disorder include:

>* Being extremely preoccupied with a perceived flaw in appearance that to others can't be seen or appears minor

>* Strong belief that you have a defect in your appearance that makes you ugly or deformed

> * Belief that others take special notice of your appearance in a negative way or mock you

>* Avoiding social situations

>* Being so preoccupied with appearance that it causes major distress or problems in your social life, work, school or other areas of functioning

I'm not saying that's what you have, only that you shouldn't just assume that your appearance really is a problem. It's worth seeing a doctor who can help you sort this stuff out; these are people who are paid and trained to do this and it can really help.

This should help you. At best it would drop down her leg while standing up. Not ride up her ass crack, while being expelled violently. As that would be defying gravity, and a miracle in science.

If they wanted to be even somewhat more accurate at least claim it is her like 3rd enema, where it is all liquid and no shit particles.

I was long time in a PUA community because I was interested in developing my social skills so I would be in better position in means of landing into a relationship. I was put off by the misogynistic and manipulative stuff but saw a lot of legit social psychology which was compatible with ethics behind other types of advice. There are a different levels there, "negging" and similar emotionally abusive tactics are considered to be a really low paradigm stuff and there are authors/PUAs like Mark Manson and David Deida. They promote a lot more wholesome PUA-culture that is based on developing yourself as a best version of yourself while renouncing emotional manipulation, misogyny and the whole egoic mindset common in PUA-circles.

So here's the thing: I've been using Tinder for a while, and I'm better looking than this guy, and I have a better sense of style, and I'm white (for those who think that matters), and I've never gotten "a woman to meet up for sex." What I have done is gotten a woman to meet up for a date, and then I've had sex. Guess what? Sometimes you may have to get a woman to meet up for three dates!

The entire premise of this challenge makes me wonder if some incels' problem with Tinder is just that they're saying, "Let's fuck," and they're hearing, "Uh, no, I'm unmatching you now." That's not how it works, Amy.

Related: I hear a lot of incels complain that they swiped for weeks and only got a few matches. Guess what, #metoo, and I still get laid. What the hell are you looking for anyway, sex or validation? Wait, forget I asked that.

Also related: Why don't incels realize there are dating sites/apps other than Tinder? Tinder, Tinder, Tinder! I know it's popular! There are also other sites! Is OkCupid too sexy for you? Match.com is a thing! Fuckin' eHarmony is a thing and you'll find loads of prudes just like you! It's almost like they want to use the most appearance-centric dating app just so they'll fail!

I asked you for an explanation, you have given a weak metabolism argument.

You then assume my gender, my age and my health. You're right on one of those counts, maybe two depending on your cut off for what is young, as I am 33. I have been obese, I have been athletic, I am currently overweight. Which of these I am depends heavily on my personal willpower to focus on what I eat and how much of it.

You then assume I'm somehow associated with a subreddit I've never been to, and seemingly get offended by me being engaged in a discussion with you based off of this assumption.

You meet all kinds of people on the internet...

Maybe you could try using apps/extensions commonly used for productivity to help you avoid those sites? https://zapier.com/blog/stay-focused-avoid-distractions/

The thing to remember is that the blackpill itself is one giant cope. Guys realise that getting a girlfriend generally takes effort and risk (and yes even more so if you're not conventionally attractive). So they use the blackpill as a cope when they avoid taking the risks or putting in the effort.

You can read the intro to this book on the Amazon page, and it's even better than I thought. The very first paragraph talks about smelling women at the grocery store. Hoo boy.

speaking on behalf of IT: If there are any incels reading this, please know that we actually do want you to succeed. We don't hate you, we hate the mindset. We don't like seeing people like this, it isn't healthy and you need to get help.

Speaking for myself: I get it, I really do. I've been single for 4 years now and I would have been an incel if I hadn't met my ex. The one line I kinda agree with is "Cope or Rope, its up to you". Complaining about women on the internet isn't going to lead to anything except more depression. I can't help you find a girlfriend but I have been coping very effectively and honestly, I'm a better, more interesting person now than I ever was with my gf. Here's what I've found to be helpful...

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-Go out and do something every day: If you're not out doing something, you should be going to the gym. That way you'll either get in great shape, or if you're like me, you'll experience lots of new things trying to avoid the gym. Just this past month I've tried mountaineering, caving, and swing dancing for the first time. This is also a great way to meet new people.

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-Get a pet: I was super lonely alone in my apartment before I rescued my cat. Now I get lot's of cuddles.

-Honestly, Just masturbate: sex is honestly overrated and while I do miss it, you're really not missing out on much. Only thing I would warn is that if rock climbing is one of the activities you get into, your hands are going to be really rough with calluses.

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-Have something you do regularly with your friends. For me it's bar trivia night and occasional board game nights. If you don't have friends, try joining something on meetup.com. those groups are always friendly, my personal recommendation: join a grotto of the National Speleological Society, I don't care how socially inept you think you are, you can't weird-out cave people.

>That's interesting. I wasn't aware body dysmorphia was something you can develop later in life I thought it was something you were born with.

No, quite the contrary.

>Body dysmorphic disorder typically starts in the early teenage years and it affects both males and females. An obsession that body build is too small or not muscular enough (muscle dysmorphia) occurs almost exclusively in males.

This is quite interesting.

Some of the symptoms seem quite... familiar.

That is why you should get off reddit as a whole. Don't lurk, don't read here or any subs that make you feel worse. Fix your addiction. Only you can fix it. In fact, block reddit entirely with this free desktop application

Thank you for posting this!

I've given advice to incels who can't afford therapy to look into The Feeling Good Handbook by Dr. Robert Burns. It's a CBT based book and aims to help you be able to identify these types of thought distortions and re-frame your thinking.

Anyone dealing with depression, anxiety, etc. should look into this stuff IMO.

I dispute your explanation. That is clearly a Vileplume in the second picture. They are warning us we're bringing about the Pokemon universe and to stop before we reach The Great War.

You're not wrong about acknowledging any of these particular issues. A guy really can't take semi-erotic pictures of himself for money like the average 20-year old girl can.

I do however think that you're failing to see the bigger picture. These disparities stem from gender roles that have been enforced for centuries in our culture and are only now becoming dismantled... and while they give some advantages to women, they predominantly make life much harder and more stressful for them. Just check out how difficult it is to get basic professional respect when you sign your email with a female name. Imagine how uncomfortable it would be to have your boss or landlord make unwanted sexual advances towards you, and how stressful it would be to constantly be thinking about how to turn them down without facing serious consequences.

Life is not fair. It's not fair for you. It's not fair for women either. We're all in this together, and our job is to try to build a more equitable culture so that it's fair for everyone.

Weight doesn't automatically correlate with health. Demanding women confirm to a specific weight for health reasons is bad because a) individual freedom and b) the health of a human is significantly more complicated then a single variable

https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20060817/bmi-bust-predicting-heart-risk

Yeah, I know the common line is to go to events on meetup.com. I just recently started using it. The issue I have is transitioning beyond the small talk and even substantive conversations into a friendship. I always felt that I was being desperate in going out of my way to initiate meetups and what not. I guess I need to work more on my conversational skills, as they are rather staid at times. BJJ is something that I am thinking of getting into. Professional wrestling was a component of my childhood.

I know you feel isolated already and that this is difficult advice to follow when you are depressed, but don't isolate yourself even more by staying indoors alone drinking and posting on forums. Try to find something that gets you out of the house. Check out meetup.com and force yourself to go out and experience something new, even if you don't feel like it or it makes you anxious.

Haha! Yeah those terms are super awkward, but luckily the bulk of fanfic is focused on gay men, so you’ll practically never encounter “heaving bosoms” or mothers’ involvement. It does get pretty weird though. Like, really weird. There’s a lot of leeway when magic is involved, and eventually you get used to teenaged boys traveling back in time to accidentally get pregnant by their werewolf uncle.

On the mild side, within 24hrs after the G7, people got right on writing about Macron and Trudeau based on the pictures of them walking in the gardens. Those are tame. For now...

Because that's pretty much the complete opposite of the definition of body dysmorphia.

I've already linked in this thread, but once more, for you

>Body dysmorphic disorder is a mental disorder in which you can't stop thinking about one or more perceived defects or flaws in your appearance — a flaw that, to others, is either minor or not observable.

>Insight about body dysmorphic disorder varies. You may recognize that your beliefs about your perceived flaws may not be true, or think that they probably are true, or be absolutely convinced that they're true.

And quite a bit more. But nothing like what you wrote.

Dating apps and websites. Joining social hobbies (that you would like to try regardless), school, parties. Some see an interesting girl out in the public and ask her out. As you are starting, reading dating books gives you more social acuity and confidence as you start to understand the factors that are involved in attraction. I'd recommend "Models" from Mark Manson, the first chapter goes pretty deep into importance of looks and comes to a conclusion (indicated by studies done in social psychology) that looks have less impact in attraction from women to men than few other qualities (like confidence and status, or even just potential for status) that can be self-cultivated. You can find it as a free online PDF here, try the Part 1 of the book and see if you could benefit from it.

If the website is protected by Cloudflare, you can report it here.

They will give you an option to have the report sent to the website server host, or the website owner. Sending it to the owner will likely do nothing, but sending it to the web server host is integral to having people realise what kind of websites these hosts are supporting and having them shut down.

I've met a lot of people who were homeschooled and I feel like I can tell that they socialize 'differently', but I wouldn't say its bad. My advice would be to do forced socialization type of stuff like meetup.com, improv classes, adult kickball leagues, etc. It may seem hokey, but the worst case scenario you'll get some practice socializing and if things work out you might make some friends. I always tell people to seek out folks that share your same interests. If you're a programmer there are groups on meetup for programmers, if you are into board games they've got that, etc. etc. etc. I pretty much only make friends through the stuff that I'm interested in.

It'll probably be awkward and hard, but treat it like its a job or working out or something. It's shit you don't want to do, but you know you should. Hope that helps.

I think you're awesome for pulling yourself out of that hole. It takes strength to not give in when everyone around you is saying the same thing. Good job, man.

In regards to life advice, one thing that has really influenced me is No More Zero Days (the first comment is the main outline of what that means). I found it through Habitica, which is also something that helped me, since it uses gamification. No More Zero Days can be something as little as going for a five minute walk or reading one page or a book, but as long as you didn't have a zero day, you accomplished something. And that is a good feeling.

Good luck. If you end up getting Habitica, you should friend me! =)

That is the issue. You didn't even last a week. If you really want to change, then install the app I linked and for your phone, this or an iOS equivalent and block reddit and any mobile reddit apps for a month. Fixing your addiction to r-incels and reddit is like a drug addiction. But since you can't become physically dependent on a website like you can drugs, its much more possible to go full Cold Turkey. Now, you don't have to do any of this. It's up to you entirely. You're the one in control here.

If you can figure that one out, maybe you can explain why some kids draw dicks everywhere, but not the vulva.

And why the woman on the panel who protested the jokes about the genital mutilation, reflexively compared it to a woman having her breasts mutilated.

On the air, she couldn't bring herself to describe the reverse scenario.

Relevant?

I wonder if every culture would respond the same way to the View clip?

Also, I wanted to add that while hypergamy is real, that can be a GOOD THING. Women care more about social status, whereas men seem to care more about physical appearance. Oprah is a Billionaire, but not a whole lot of dudes are trying to steal her from her boyfriend. Contrast that with our current president. He is an overweight (probably obese) senior citizen with hair plugs, that married a model and (while in his 60's) had a long term affair with a playboy playmate that actually wanted to marry him.

The thing about it is you can change social status (at least your economic status) FAR easier than you can change your appearance. If you are a NEET, get some skils/education/training that provides you with better career opportunities. Go on udemy.com and take one of their "learn to be a web developer/programmer" style courses and change your career path. Trust me, money/success makes things MUCH MUCH better.

I also have fanfic about a romp with the AFLAC duck and a a fanfic about François Rabelais suffering eternal damnation at the tender mercies of a flock of geese. (Both of those are not safe for work!)

Does that make me interested in waterfowl?

I guess if the topic of not having a gf comes up, spinning it as "not finding the right one" or being honest about not being lucky in that department are ways to approach it. It is one of those subjects that it is probably better to not offer until asked about.

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As for meeting women, there is nothing wrong about expanding your social circle or looking for opportunities to meet women on your own. Meetup.com maybe worth looking into and/or if there is local events that sound interesting. Also, are there any things that you find interesting but maybe not looking into right now, like a hobby, genre of movie/literature or skill (outside social) you want to work on?

Yup! It's was "Slumber Party Barbie" from the 1950s. She came with a scale that was permanently set to 110 lb and a book that was titled "How to Lose Weight" with the only page saying "don't eat!"

https://www.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_2245556

The idea that emotion is a bad thing, and not a part of reasoning is itself outdated, and based on some pretty flimsy Enlightenment era philosophical constructs, namely that objectivity is actually possible as opposed to an inherently impossible ideal. The devaluation of emotion as part of reasoning is used particularly as a means of either tone policing, or dismissing arguments the listener doesn’t like, because the idea of caring about a subject is seen as itself suspect because of this well-discredited model. In addition, the devaluation of emotion does markedly lead to ignoring one’s own biases which makes for sloppy thinking, if you’re a good and rational person, you don’t have biases, whoops, ignore those biases.

But if that’s not enough, [there’s](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/02/170215121100.htm] some neuroscience too. Also: http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Cognition_and_emotion#Conclusion:_from_interactions_to_integration

I am sorry to be a bit snappy earlier, but you know, good faith on Reddit is not uncommon, and the way mental illness is talked about in terms of violence is something that I am pretty bothered about, because it’s bad reasoning and potentially deadly policy.

I seriously am

But hey, it's easier to just believe what youve been told instead of doing some research and saying things that are outside the norm is considered blasphemous.

Capitalists today are equal to Christians in the 1400s

Everyone stand back! I know regular expressions.

These are ways of defining a pattern of text. Utilities like sed or editors like vim let me use a command like s/some pattern/some other string/ will go through all the text given and replace the first instance that matches some pattern with some other string. If I add a g after the second /, it will replace all instances, not just the first one.

There's some web utilities that let folks play around with this interactively, if you'd like to learn more this useful skill.

>Where do I find these "meetups"?

There's LITERALLY meetup.com

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But do go on being an obtuse Mr. Collins with your dinky $2k headhunting commission for a wife you posted on the internet.

/aspergers has a sidebar (because they genuinely require help for social interaction) to places like /socialskills or /anxiety.

As for your second concern, the literal solution is to interact with real women, by Going Outside. That way, you can't run the same speech scripts in your head like for NPS characters in a video game and you realize that conversations in real life have their own organic spontaneity.

> as much as it's comfortable to me it's also dangerous

Yes. This is true. You need to stop being comfortable in your home alone mode and Go Outside and Say Hello. Get on meetup.com and find one that works for you. Show up. Say hello. Engage in the activity. Stretch your boundaries.

Good luck.

You can definitely try that. This is a good starting toner if you want to try the method I'm using now. You can get cotton pads in any drug stores, but I personally prefer the Japan muji cotton pads (available on amazon) - they feel a lot nicer/softer than the typical western pads (which always feel too scratchy).

I was wondering about that. Yeah, it's pretty unlikely PRQ will take any action. Which is pretty sad. I understand hosting sites with unpopular opinions, but hosting a site that explicitly promotes a violent criminal act seems a bit much.

First off, I want to say that I am glad you are trying to stay away from the Incel mindset and sorry to hear that you had to deal with some real life bs.

For meeting people and possibly help with starting conversations, have you looked into meetup.com or other sites online for exploring possible interests both with and without video games? I am not sure what the social scenes are in VA but It could help you meet people. Plus, looking into events that involve something you are interested in could be a helpful conversation starter.

When talking with women, try to take a deep breathe and have a clear idea of what you want to say before starting the conversation in cases where you approach her. I am not saying the mall is always a good idea but in cases where you would have reason, it's a good idea to try in order to calm your nerves.

Also, are you looking for just light skinned black women or are you interested in possibly trying some sort of interracial dating, if it's ok to ask?

Online dating can be a good start in the sense that you can try to craft your responses thoughtfully before hitting send. Also, using sites/apps like meetup.com could be a way to meet women near you that have similar interests but I recommend being open to just friends and see where things take you.

According to studies done in the field of social psychology, women are mainly attracted to self-confidence and social status of a man where men are mainly attracted to looks in women. Of course, there are gazillion of different personality traits, variables and other factors that come to play as well, but to put it bluntly it is like that. As most incels are men, they make the assumption that as they are mainly attracted to looks, this must be the case with women as well. Though this conclusion is logical, it gives an erronous view of reality what comes down to dating. Looks do matter, but they tend to bear less importantance for women.

There exists a common trope with nice guys and incels that assholes get laid. That is true. And that is because those assholes are confident. Also certain kind of people who have history of abuse tend to be attracted to such people and there is also the element that danger is sexy. But the fact is that if you knew how fucked-up those girls tend to be you wouldn't really want to date them. And one can be dangerous without being evil and one can certainly be confident without being an asshole. Wholesome guys who have high self-esteem have higher chances of finding lasting happy relationships where those "assholes" are often left with string of short-term flings. In fact, the kind of confidence that assholes demonstrate in their behaviour is a form of egoic confidence that is inherently compensative and only exists in people have low self-esteem. It very often manifests as some variation of narcissism.

If you want to read more about what is considered attractive by women, I'd recommend reading this book's first chapter and making your own conclusions.

You need separate outlets for your venting and friendships. I’ve been on both ends of this, talking about politics too much and have had politics ranted at me when I was tired/stressed and didn’t care. It definitely puts a strain on your relationships

Make friends with which to discuss politics with. There might be groups in your city and there are TONS of political subs and local/city/country politics subs. 

For your personal problems, if you’re a dude there’s r/malementalhealth r/menslib and also, r/vent 

But the best course would be to meet regularly with a counselor/therapist/psychologist/psychiatrist who will not only listen to your thoughts but challenge them, if you need it

Then your friendships are free when your other needs are met. Doesn’t mean you can’t ever mention personal issues or politics, but when you do it can be casual conversation rather than a necessity. 

Edit: Someone down the thread mentioned 7cupsoftea for online counselling

The facts disagree with your anecdotal evidence

A quick google search could’ve saved us both some time

Being the guy women settle down with is a great gig. Men who get divorced want to get remarried. No one's gonna settle down with a NEET. So, if you want kids, yeah. I encourage you to betabux.

Also, getting out of the basement is necessary to develop a better personality. You interact with people who are different from you. You look after those people's needs. You encounter and overcome challenges. I learned more in the year after college -- paying my rent , getting and losing my first real job -- than I did in my 4 years in school.

The custody issue is a myth - half of all fathers don't even seek custody. Only a small percentage of custody disputes are settled by courts.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dispelling-the-myth-of-ge_b_1617115

What are MGTOW actually doing about male suicide? How about supporting stronger workplace safety standards? No, that's too girly for them.

I don't think you are. There are a few women in my office who met and married their husbands when all parties were in their mid-thirties - one of them met her husband on Match.com, the other met at the gym. My best friend is is dating a guy who is 35. So I don't think you'll be out of the rang. It might be more work than it is in college, but that's largely because of the different environment you're in - people are harder to find sometimes when you're not forced to be around a cohort of similarly aged people.

There are ways to continue to meet people. My best friend met her boyfriend through a writing club they were both in. Another one of my friends met her fiancee at a martial arts class. You'll still find people, but it might involve more of a creative search process.

I think you'll likely be okay. 30 is not old, and 34 is still a prime time of life - age is just a number; fun and happy people are appealing at any age. Be confident, do good things for the world, and engage with people - someone will find that attractive :)

That's if you're exclusively looking at women on match.com. The subset of the population that uses the site is likely not an accurate sample to represent the population as a whole. So I think you can conclude that height matters for online dating, which I think is probably more based on looks than in-person interactions with people might be. I'm not saying there's no difference, but there's likely not as big a difference as your video would make it out to be when you expand your horizons beyond online dating.

Anyways best of luck with your love life dude, I'm rooting for you.

well theres meetup.com and yeah its understood that the entire point is to meet new people who share similar interests.

It's not intended as a dating site so I think generally speaking it would be bad form to show up to an established group that for example plays paintball and after 2 hours with them ask one of them out. It's probably better to try and enjoy the meetup as a social experience and if things click between you and someone else then it can eventually develop into a relationship.

Meetup.com Free Eventbrite.com events. Your local city's own subreddit may have meetups. Actual hobby subreddits, search for your locality. Facebook groups.

Walk into your local library and scan the public bulletin boards. If you don't find something, YOU should make a flyer, print it out with details and contact information and look for people. Start your own meetup after getting the app, even.

I also know that comic book shops often also have their own bulletin boards, if you are a nerd.

This is a picture of me. https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=7b11d14e33&view=att&th=1634548a830263a8&attid=0.1&disp=safe&realattid=1634548d1658a3b47e81&zw

I'm not good-looking, never had sex/a girlfriend, but I try to build up confidence and make myself interesting instead of giving up and blaming people. My shyness is a barrier to meeting new pwople, and I have to work past that. However, once I manage to get to know someone, I can talk about a variety of topics. I seem interesting and respectful to people. No one has ever turned down a good conversation with me because of my looks.

My willingness to improve and reflect on confidence issues is what makes me different from you. Your attitude is what makes you an incel.

Honestly? I suggest reading the book Models by Mark Manson. It goes over how to slowly take yourself from basement-brooding goblin to someone that can open up to a woman, ask her out AND (the most important part) deal with rejection. It explains WHY rejection is important, since if you just trick a woman into thinking you're chad you will eventually slip up and feel more alone than you were before. You read those stories, the incels that get girls but still don't change. How to take care of yourself like a human being, how to bring out your positive qualities and how to interact.

It aint hard to pirate, and I'm sure you can spare twenny bux to buy it.

Is it harder for you because the girl is intimidating cause you're attracted or is just talking to girls the harder part. For example which would be harder to talk to a girl that's fat and ugly or a girl that's very attractive to you. If they girl that's very attractive to you would be way more difficult then you gotta work on your confidence/anxiety. That could be one of your problems. Also in all likelihood it's way more likely that you have more guy majority hobbies then girl majority so those are always easy talking points that you're missing out on.

Just start doing the FORD technique for a couple easy hours of small talk to get the wheels rolling then it eases up a lot after that cause you get to know them and they'll usually start opening up more.

> I give the reason WHY I said that Incels don't have any charm, and rather than try to argue that Incels do think it'll do something, you went straight back to the whole "but it only works if you're attractive!" crap.

When did i say "but it only works if you're attractive!" ? oh it's because I used the word "attractive" to describe "charming" men and women ? sorry but it's literally used in the dictionary to describe the word "charming". https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/charming "pleasant and attractive" next to "used to describe people who use their attractiveness to influence people or to make other people like them" Are you going to give me reason why even the dictionary is fucking stupid ? "attractiveness" can be part of what constitute "charm", doesn't mean i think it's the only thing that count, it's just a type of charm, and it can sway some poeple opinion on your personality, like other type of charming trait... are you strawmaning my point of view on purpose or is this just a misunderstanding ? how would i know and who the fuck cares ? you're getting hung up on details.

Now, captain obvious, none of the thing you've said were "hard truth", everybody know you can misjudge someone's personality because he/she's "charming" the thing you're trying hard not to process is that charmless men and women can also be misjudged, many poeple judge a book by its cover, and it can sometimes be cruel. Fucking common sense, not any kind of hard truth.

Seriously, since you asking why there are charmless men give up "practicing", imho it's because it becomes exponentially harder as the years go by to catch on relational skills when you lagged behind. When you're an adult and still clueless about seduction, it can fool most personality detector into thinking there's got to be something really fucking wrong with your personality.

He isn't wrong about miscarriages being dramatically higher the older the mother. There's also a higher risk of genetic defects.

https://www.webmd.com/baby/over-35-pregnant

Though I do wonder exactly how many miscarriages occur around the time the mother starts to notice she's pregnant. Does bleeding a 2 week blastula into a toilet count as a miscarriage? Probably. Woman might not even know she's pregnant.

On the brighter side, more educated people tend to wait later. So complications might be offset by having enough money to pay for better healthcare.

Only 3 comments on r/Braincels So I am also posting my reply here also

A lot of hard work went into preparing chart

There is hope ! Where I live you would be in incel male heaven. Let me describe type women i see daily with level T7, T6, T5 incel males.

T7 : First male no problem 6 - 7 female no kids

Second dude 5 - 6 / 10 females

Last dudes 5, 6, 7 females one kid , lose weight 5 - 6 / 10 no kids

T6 : Tons of 6 - 7 / 10 women

T5 : Jackpot 7 - 9 / 10 women young no kids

simple plan

1. Teaching English as Foreign Language certificate online
2. Travel the world
3. If you want to lose your virginity to another virgin (44%) 18 - 34 years old teach in Japan.

Sayaonra

https://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/20/asia/japanese-millennials-virgins/index.html

I propose that we just start sandbagging them by replying to stuff like this with the last pannel of that awesome comic about how sexism isn't us vs them . 'Cause that last pannel is just the most beautiful thing I saw in 2017.

Yeah, he got done in for buying a tiny amount of CBD oil. Seeing as he lives in Florida it doesn't really surprise me tho

https://thenextweb.com/insider/2017/08/25/youtube-star-drug-arrest/

Actually, I find that a good thing that those subs still exist. They're using those hate-based subs to train AI to combat hate speech. https://thenextweb.com/artificial-intelligence/2019/09/25/reddit-and-gabs-most-toxic-communities-inadvertently-train-ai-to-combat-hate-speech/

Found that interesting

I didn't only speak about kids: I was also made fun of "adults" in public for example. I fixed my eyes (surgery) a few years ago and people treat me way better now. (what a coincidence!)

here is an interesting link: https://www.webmd.com/eye-health/news/20000620/eye-deformity-prejudice#1

Besides, I suggest you to watch this movie ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elephant_Man_(film) ) which is based on a real story.

Lookism is real !

I moved to the other side of the planet not knowing a soul at age 32. I hate Tinder and all that shit and I don't even have it or any other dating app on my phone.

When I moved I went to several meet-ups at bars and for hikes (found them on meetup.com) and I joined a running club. The latter was the BEST way to make friends. Lots of time to get to know each other, and all those endorphins flyin' around!? Best ever! I was also just reminded that I once joined a kickball team like ten years ago. It was stupid fun. Just a buncha adults getting together to play kickball then go out and drink beer together.

If you're not into physical fitness type stuff or sports, try a book club. Or go to a trivia night at a bar and tell the quiz master that you're solo and would like to try to join a team, and they'll help you get on a team that needs another person. I travel alone for work a lot and I have done that a couple times and had such a good time!

I also joined a writer's circle. Just an amateur group for people who hobby write, an opportunity for us to share our stuff and critique it.

There are plenty of opportunities out there to meet people that aren't Tinder, but you need to have a good attitude or else you're doomed for failure in a self-fulfilling prophecy of self-loathing. And ain't nobody wanna be around that.

Online dating might be an option, it gives you a chance to meet girls without the stress of having to go out on your own.

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Websites / Apps that organize meet-ups for hobbies are always a great place to meet people, both potential partners and friends that might motivate you to go out. Look for events that might interest you or line up with your hobbies. I've met plenty of awesome people at smash tournaments whom I went partying with later on as an example. I think meetup.com (or smth like that) is also quite good, although I've never used it myself. I wouldn't even necessarily recommend single meet-ups but just doing something you enjoy with other people, not only is it fun as hell, but it'll also make you seem much more attractive just because you're enjoying yourself.

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Depending on your area, pubcrawls might be a fun way to meet people too. It might seem odd to go to one in your own city but not only are people at pubcrawls always open to meet others and there to have a good time, but you're likely to meet expats who're just trying to meet people. At least that's been my experience here in Europe. It's also a great way to find people to go out with, even if just for the night. I've had plenty of evenings where none of my friends wanted to go out, so I just went to a pubcrawl and found plenty of wingmen there.

Electroconvulsive therapy. Putting an electrical current through the brain to try to "reset" the brain and knock out the depression.

ECT at Mayo clinic

Try discussing some of the ones on this list: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/insomnia/in-depth/sleeping-pills/art-20043959 - I'd stay FAR away from ambien. Doxepin is one I've at least hear of and seen. Amitriptyline as well, but I don't know much about either one. Then, do a sleep study, which is something I need to do as well.

If all else fails and you guys exhaust options, then ask him to reconsider the benzos, but even then they don't keep me asleep all the time either.

I know some folks with treatment-resistant depression who tried it, and the general consensus was it helps but it’s temporary.

Are you working with a psych? They might suggest ECT (electroshock) which sounds horrific and barbaric but I saw some people get amazing results from it. It really does work, and it’s all done under anesthesia.

The other one I’ve seen done is this:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/transcranial-magnetic-stimulation/about/pac-20384625

so there are options out there.

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I am autistic. I am no expert on dating non-autistic people, but I have been able to date a few and I can share my experiences.

The most important thing is to feel good about yourself and try not to force yourself into the "box" that other people consider "normal" or "attractive." I've tried to change and adapt myself so many times and it never works. The only way I have ever been able to have success is to act how *I* want to act and find people who accept me for who I am. For me, this means making friends with girls who are straightforward, honest, and speak their mind. I don't do well with hints, game-playing, and passive aggressiveness and avoid people who act this way.

Along with that, I have found that admitting right off the bat that you are autistic really helps, unless you are barely autistic. In my case, people can always tell: strange vocal inflection, strange manner or speech, odd mannerisms and facial expressions. I'm high functioning enough though that most people think I'm "just a weird guy." Revealing the ASD actually helps people see me as more "normal" because they can identify a reason for my odd behavior.

Building social skills is just practice; the more the better. Force yourself to overcome the fear of being judged and insert yourself into many social circles. In college, this is easily done by going to study groups, clubs, and after-school events. Websites like meetup.com are also a good choice. Practice making conversation and being a good listener. If you don't like the group or you don't feel accepted, don't feel bad about it: move on.

Nope.

"Nicholas Poehl, one of Pagourtzis' attorneys, said that his client did not appear to have a history of mental health or legal issues."

It goes even earlier than that. In 1792, Mary Wollstonecraft (mother of Frankenstein author Mary Shelley) wrote Vindication of the Rights of Woman.

Here's a link to a free audio book. https://librivox.org/a-vindication-of-the-rights-of-woman-by-mary-wollstonecraft/

> Since “celibacy” mean to WILLINGLY abstain from all sex for moral or religious reasons such as catholic priest or monks.

No, not necesseraly, it doesn't have to be "WILLINGLY". source : https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/celibate
celibate noun [ C ] uk ​ /ˈsel.ə.bət/ us ​ /ˈsel.ə.bət/ formal : a person who does not have sex

mmmhhhh I'm going to assume you aren't a native speaker ?

http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/zap

lists changing channel as a meaning

http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/footing

lists walking at a brisk pace as a meaning.

Arguably those are listed as American translations.

>Reddit plug in

https://redditenhancementsuite.com/

Yeah, that. I use it. Its awesome.

>Just keep working on yourself and you should be fine, but remember work out and do what you are doing because it makes you happy, not because of the desired result, because one small setback can cause a relapse.

Meh honestly I don't have much incentive for self improvement personally aside from dating.

Search from Google "How to improve your self-esteem" and work on that. If you need a therapist, check that option as well. When you go out with girls, don't define your success on did you get laid/second date. If you went on the date despite being nervous, treat it as a success. When you treat going out as a means to improve your social skills, confidence and just having fun with other person, you will place a lot less pressure on yourself and you will act naturally more confident as you feel there is nothing at stake as you will not have expectations for the continuity of the date. Once you get the hold of it and start to have positive experiences with women, you feel more confident about yourself when you are out with women. Practise, practise, practise. It's important to understand that it takes time for your self-esteem to improve especially if you have lived most of your life hating yourself, so be patient with yourself and try to treat yourself with the same kind of kindness you would offer to a personal friend who would be dealing with the same issue you are having.

Reading dating manuals is also helpful as it gives you greater understanding of dating works and gives you more confidence when you are at dates. I'd recommend reading "Models" by Mark Manson and "Art of Seduction" by Robert Greene. David Detta's "Way of the Superior Man" is also a great book. But if you are only going for one book, I'd pick the Models as it helps you to understand what self-esteem and confidence is and how to reach that without emulating or faking behaviour. You can find it here as a free online PDF.

I've read about it from many different sources, but if you want a detailed explanation I'd refer you to read the first chapter of Mark Manson's book "Models". You can find free online PDF here. It's a dating manual based on social psychology and has it's sources cited as well. David Deida's "Way of the Superior Man" also goes deep into it.

As a "Chadlite" dude who used to have a really shitty self-esteem due to childhood trauma, I can attest from my own experience that it was severely holding me back from having success in dating. It changed drastically after I had improved my self-esteem. In retrospect, I can see how my behaviour sabotaged my efforts back then.

> tabletop games like dungeons and dragons

There you go, as long as you try to go to meetings with new people from time to time you're good to go.

Scout for geeky shops and ask them if they organise get togethers, game afternoons... or check meetup.com if there is anything near you

Honestly, it seems like you have hardcore depression. Definitely seek therapy. If you don't feel you can go to therapy for whatever reason, start with 7Cups. They have volunteer listeners for free 24/7, online counseling you can pay for, forums (though I can't speak to the community there), and their FAQs honestly helped me at my worst. Get on medication. Trust me, it helps a load. So does therapy if you can make yourself talk.

I don't know your personal life, but if you have people that give you anxiety and regularly put you do, get them out of your life. They're toxic and no one deserves to deal with that. There is someone out there whose life you have changed positively. They think about you periodically and it puts a smile on there face. There is absolutely no doubt about that. There are people who love you and maybe just don't see what you're going through.

You can get through this. I promise it gets better.

Just FWIW in the US there's been quite a bit of study regarding racism in choice of sexual partners. I don't know that it's possible to point to any one particular cause, but a combination of factors including portrayals in media and our country's history of slavery have lead to certain races being perceived as more or less sexually desirable, and generally lighter skin color is seen as more desirable regardless of race. But "the US is racist" isn't really news. The surprising part is how intersectional stereotypes lead to divisions within the same race, for example Asian women being seen as particularly attractive while Asian men are seen as particularly unattractive. Here's a link to a write-up of a study (as distinct from the study itself): https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women

Also, while I'm not trying to tell you how to feel about it, being attracted to a certain race can be an expression of racism. It's certainly possible to sleep with someone while not viewing them as an equal. All that to say the phrase "Sexy Brown men" is pretty racist -- straight up fetishizing your skin color and essentializing you through that lens. I get how you're being complemented by it (they are saying you're sexy!) so I'm not saying you should be offended, but I am saying it sounds like there's at least a little "casual" racism happening in whatever country you call home.

It's pictures and videos where it's impossible to tell whether it's real or not.

This Person Does Not Exist

Deep Fakes

Fun fact a huge movement for women's empowerment included them being able to explore their own bodies and learn about genitals. Learn more on this amazing episode of ScienceVS (not an ad)

There is little to no significant discrepancy in partner count for men by height

The average desired male height is 5’9. Short females on average are more tolerant of a greater potential height range than tall females

There is little to no significant discrepancy in partner count for men by height

The average desired male height is 5’9. Short females on average are more tolerant of a greater potential height range than tall females

There is little to no significant discrepancy in partner count for men by height

The average desired male height is 5’9. Short females on average are more tolerant of a greater potential height range than tall females

There is little to no significant discrepancy in partner count for men by height

The average desired male height is 5’9. Short females on average are more tolerant of a greater potential height range than tall females

There is little to no significant discrepancy in partner count for men by height

The average desired male height is 5’9. Short females on average are more tolerant of a greater potential height range than tall females

> It is because they're so bitter about themselves that they don't engage with real people. > >

The causal direction may be reversed. Perhaps they are so bitter because they can't engage with real people... because they have a social disability like autism.

I have a theory that "incel" is a social disease that spreads throughout male autistic teens who have grown bitter as a result of their exclusion from an ableist society. It is this exclusion that makes their young and bitter minds susceptible to this hateful nonsense. High functioning autistic people are 9 times more likely to commit suicide than non-autistic people (Table 4)

I think the "alt right" is another strain of this same social disease (like different flu strains) that also feeds off the bitterness of autistic teens and young adults living in an ableist world.

Tinder is 80% of men competing for 20% of women. It's not a great place to be. I've had more luck with E-Harmony and I've heard Match.com is good too... though at those two you're looking for relationships rather than just a hookup, and they aren't cheap. You get what you pay for though.

Well, there's a new study that shows that trend of people preferring partners fairly close to their height, men preferring slightly shorter women and women preferring slightly taller men.

https://badoo.com/team/press/91/

Yeah, it can depend highly on the denomination and the place of worship specifically.

Try meetup.com. If your interests are all dudes, and your church is all dudes, you gotta change something, my friend.

This is what they mean. an expected mode of existence which was promoted largely because it's easier to sell a second set of appliances to a nuclear family that did not have the grandparents also living there (who would presumably already have appliances).

1950s marketing was pretty insidious.

Edit: and yes, before someone tells me to take off my tin foil hat, I am being mostly flippant.

He admitted to committing a crime, so showing this to the relevant state or federal agency will warrant a request to Epik for the visitor logs of that forum. From there it is a simple request form to the ISP of that associated IP address and/or VPN service for address and name.

Many of the Incels use ProtonVPN and associated other similar VPN's but all those VPN's have a National Internet Treaty Agreement to provide information and back tracing to Law Enforcement.

Perhaps you should invest in one of these my friend!

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Well, this may be more niche, but drnerdlove.com helped me with a bunch of mental hurdles.

https://www.amazon.com/What-Women-Want-Tucker-Max/dp/0316375330?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=0316375330

This guy was on the Joe Rogan podcast not too long ago, and he mentioned this book. The doctor definitely impressed me, and the premise for this book would be something I would have snapped up back in my formative years. There's plenty of books of a similar type as well.

Honestly, if you were to ask me your appearance is completely fine, but you are pretty young and inexperienced. Fortunately, it just means you have a lot to gain from resources like these.

One thing that does have me worried is your negative perspective towards your appearance. I've had similar issues, and I've reconciled it with a type of body dysmorphia. Is it possible you can have something similar?

https://www.amazon.ca/Mind-Over-Mood-Second-Changing/dp/1462520421?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duc12-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=1462520421

I think that's from this Dr. Seuss book.

Easiest option would be to get a copy of Sexual Impolitics - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sexual-Impolitics-Heresies-gender-feminism-ebook/dp/B00PBA6ZRQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1527771963&sr=8-1&keywords=neil+lyndon

The quoted passages are listed there.

The other place to look would be GenderCritical. Or the stuff pushed by people like Julie Bindel in the mainstream press.

GC is ripped into by /r/gendercynical

A lot ot it may well have been down to unintended consequences, but this can partially be down to the dissenting voices not speaking loudly enough when other stuff goes through into statute... or prior knowledge is assumed by the activist when talkign to the general mainstream member of the public.

That's going to help tremendously. If you're interested in Buddhism in general and want a great teacher (albeit one who is obviously Asian so doesn't always understand or incorporate a Western perspective on some things, that's normal): Thich Nhat Hanh. His books are fairly short, on specific topics. One of them deals with this emotion:

Anger: Wisdom for Cooling the Flames (warning, obviously an Amazon link, this book is of course available in libraries)

Have a read of the book Sexual Chaos https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sexual-Chaos-Personal-Consequences-Revolution/dp/0891074309 . Sounds like the "Sodom is a satellite dish" bit out of that book...

Again - another American evangelical Christian title.