And it was developed by Match Group, which owned Match.com. It was an entrepreneurial offshoot of the company, hence the 'tinder.'
It really is a very clever name.
It's okay though, this happens often and there are loads of sites where you can rehome them.
I suggest putting her profile on Match.com, tinder, and OKCupid to start with. If there's no interest, you can set profiles up on other sites and apps.
Don't worry, we'll find your GF a new forever home in no time.
I met a guy through match.com. After countless exchanges, we went on a date. He showed up handsome, well dressed and successful. We went to a beautiful French restaurant. During dinner he claimed to feel bad and asked if we could not talk then proceeded to ask for the check right after the entrees arrived. I asked for the waiter to box my meal. When we got into his car he said let's go my my house; have coffee and listen to music. I said, no thank you and please take me home. He drove in the opposite direction. After a five minute argument, we went to starbucks for coffee and he yelled at me because he couldn't smoke in the cafe. Just then a friend texted and invited me to her party a few miles away. I figured this was my out, I asked him to go with me. We were there for about an hour and he said he was ready to leave...I told him I was staying. He said, "You're not leaving with me?" I told him no. He then slapped me across the face in a room full of my friends and no one saw it. I was shocked. He leaned in an inch from my face and said, "What's wrong, cat got your tongue?" He turned around and walked out. He then continued to leave me harassing messages calling me names and stalked me for the next three months. He'd show up at places he knew I would be. He would call me from other numbers and cry and ask me to go to counseling with him. He finally stopped. It ruined online dating for me forever.
I met my husband on Match.com almost 15 years ago.
ETA: back then you also lied about it haha. Only a loser needed to use the internet for dating. We used to tell people we met at the bar where we had our first date rather than talk about the couple weeks before that when we were talking online.
You'd be surprised how many women have hats and/or big sunglasses in every photo (in my search results (the 40-somethings), I would estimate that 50% of all photos have sunglasses). There are plenty of profiles where in every photo she's wearing a mask, too!
It's like Match.com is sponsored by the witness-protection program.
...Aaaaand this is why we don't use OLD apps.
I couldn't believe how many men on OLD would do things like:
Please, stop using these apps. You will get the trash men, with the occasional gem thrown in, and waste a lot of time and mental energy swiping, swiping, and answering inane messages from men who can't be arsed to actually have a conversation with you.
Fact you need to know: These apps -- all of them -- are being abandoned by women. As recently as March 2021, Match.com active users were 81.6% male. This is not "easy pickings" for the women. Women are abandoning OLD sites. It's because we're sick of being sexually harassed by LVM who have nothing to offer but the audacity.
Boycott dating apps, restore your sanity.
I was on match.com a few years back and went out with this girl. On that site, you can pick your body type (slender, average, a bunch of stupid ass euphemisms for "fat", etc) , and she picked "slender". She posted several full-body pics where she is definitely slender.
I beat her to the restaurant, and am waiting at the bar, drinking a beer. She shows up and says my name. I turn around and see this girl who is at least two hundred pounds. I finished my beer and left. Not because I wasn't attracted to her, but that was some serious fraud and a big red flag to me. I wasn't rude about it (I didn't even directly mention it to her), but she definitely wasn't going to waste my time.
They have an interesting meet-cute. Neither was looking for a relationship but they met on some site (Match.com?) and then in real life for a one-night stand. They really hit it off and have been together ever since. They just knew.
match.com. My thought is that it's a paid app so maybe dudes are more serious? Not sure about that yet. I got it before I found FDS and have it paid through Nov, decided to experiment and see what will happen after applying my new FDS skill set.
Gabby looks/dresses/acts like a newly divorced woman in her mid-forties who is trying really hard to relate to and impress her teenaged daughters, and who is also getting really in to motorcycles because her new boyfriend from match.com rides them.
I met my wife on Match.com when I was an assistant prof, although I was quite a bit older than you (36). I liked Match because it costs money to do much of anything on it, which sort of filters out people who are just screwing around and most students, they'll largely just use Tinder/Bumble for free. So long story short I suggest Match!
I Matched with a woman who turned out to be prettier in person than her picture. A great start. On our first (and only) date, she said, "You seem like the kind of guy who would run toward a woman in distress, instead of running away." I wasn't sure where this was leading, but she confessed that she wasn't "technically" divorced from her husband, oh and he's a federal agent (with a gun and badge) who sometimes got rough with her. He just learned about her Match.com profile that morning and was pretty angry, so she had been hiding all day at her sister's.
So there I sat with my back to the door at an Italian restaurant, wearing a mussel bib, and waiting for a bullet to the back of the head.
She turned out to be really nice and I would have loved to get to know her, but I had a rule about not dating married women. I walked her to her car (parked in a nearly empty parking garage with bad lighting of course) and kissed her goodnight.
2 thoughts here -
I'm not going to get into your DH's issues - that's for the JustNoSO board.
He needs to see this as not just an issue affecting HIM - that it affects YOU, and the two of you as a couple. So the two of you, as a couple, need to agree on a strategy to deal with this, and issues going forward. (Marital counseling might help to get you both on the same page regarding his mother.) This was a pointed jab clearly aimed at you, and your marriage. She could have "gifted" the Match.com membership to her darling boy, but no, she chose your birthday to shoot this barb at YOU.
And DO NOT, for one minute, let her try to laugh this off as a "prank" or "joke."
"If it were a joke, we'd all be laughing."
This was just a warning shot, to see what she can get away with. Shut it down now, and hard. If you can't get DH on the same page, deal with it yourself, and haul him into therapy so the two of you can present a united front in the future.
I once met a girl in a bar and asked for her phone number. She gave me "a" number, no idea if it was hers as i never got a text back.
Fast forward a few weeks, she "liked" me on match.com. We stated messaging. Eventually she asked "were you at [event me met at prior]". I made the mistake of remembering and recounting too many details from that night. Yeah, she probably already knew, but until that point maybe she was willing to let first impressions slide.
Online dating is a place all MGTOW need to go, its the next hurdle, or the final blow to fully go MGTOW.
All men need to check online dating, for what it is, pure crap, if you are older my age bracket used to be 35-45, and you can not believe how full of themselves those old cunts are.
What there standards are, they are asking for, and what they have to offer in return, and see how men blue pill white knight cucks throw themselves at those horrors just for a chance to get a piece of sour pie.
I have met a few and i can honestly tell you they never ever look like there profile picture, they lie about everything, the place themselves so there fat ass does not show etc.
I just open a free account on match.com and i am laughing my ass off reading those over the hill profile, i don't send emails, i been approach by 4 women this week but since i don't pay i can't reply and i am not gonna pay one cent for this shit.
I am 5 feet 11 with 30y of training i keep fit, and i am not bad looking yet like you said with women impossible standards online i failed hahaha.
Online dating just shows how stupid women are, when a 47 years old skinny grey hair hag with 3 kids modifies her profile saying, listen i been online for 3 years now and i am tired of wasting my time, if you are not at least 6 feet tall, handsome, i don't want a balding fat man, don't waste my time and i know the difference between 5 feet 11 and 6 feet.
This women was a 3 on plenty of fish and i sent her an email, i actually got banned after this, i told her hey princess, why would any men with a brain want to even talk to you, when he can go to Cuba and pick up 22y old super hot women, you have nothing special, you have hit the wall solid many years ago 3 kids your only requirement would be that a man is breathing, keep living in your dream world and make sure to have rechargeable batteries for that big fat dildo of yours.
Everyone recommendations here are right.
I want to add. I know it is painful but you are WAY too much in pain and concern and failing yourself.
Two tinder dates is not enough.
Honestly, you should consider going to match.com and just saying YES to EVERY SINGLE person for like 30 dates (Coffee only). Whether or not you are attracted to them or they are your type.
There are lots of good women, who are nerds and may just be nerds about other things, but you are relying on a lot of internet abstraction to inform your behavior, your looks, and your reaction.
Also when people are shitty to you and its over, just tell them hey that was pretty shitty behavior. Some of those people are just flakes, but some of those people are like you so guarded they are pushing away.
You don't have to be confident, but maybe it makes you more confident if you are aware that EVERYONE is struggling and uncertain and it isn't insane to share those doubts with people.
Also I recommend you work on EMPATHY. You seem to be very concerned about your thoughts and how you are being perceived and not how other people feel.
I agree, the ones that worked ok sold out and nobody really has the means or desire to compete when match.com owns a big monopoly on most of the dating sites/apps.
Also our culture just sucks more. We all kinda suck.
Like if covid happened 5-10 years ago I'd have no problem at least finding potential matches to talk to at least that could hold a conversation.
There ARE "Farmer only" and "Conservative Only" dating apps. They all generally fail for good reason.
Also, laughing at the guy who says he got kicked from match.com for "advocating conservative values". $10 says he started attacking gay people and/or yelling at women who wanted a casual relationship or who weren't interested in children.
He was in a Match.com commercial and got paid barely anything. Then the commercial was shown everywhere for months. He decided to troll them by taking his footage from the original commercial and cutting it together with new footage he shot himself.
it's a cult. For some reason we pay them to isolate from society and to tell us what they come up with.
We let them tell our children what to think about us.
Why these institutions still exist is a scam, not a mystery. Google and Walmart could do a better job, but the "elite" like to buy into labels with fancy crest that sound old - the 'ivy league' is a glorified match.com for rich kids. 'elite' schools are just the tool of the wealthy to preserve their privileged connections and status above you.
If these institutions vanished it wouldn't be a loss.
Throw on there that online dating is just... it's not a great game, unless you're willing to pay the service for the more quality profiles, and even then it's tough.
I paid for Tinder premium and the full Match.com profile, and at best, I get a bunch of matches from people who never respond to the thoughtful messages I send. It's not even a matter of not responding, they just aren't being read either.
Unhappiness takes a while to recognize and usually it's dealing with a lot of denial surrounding it. I was in a long relationship and for the last year of it was extremely unhappy with everything.
However every day it was, "what can I do to make things better?" but that slowly turned into going to into work early and staying late a lot to not be home.
In the end it turned into we were just two people sharing a bed and a house. We barely talked or interacted. She wanted TV in the bedroom, me in the living room. I was miserable.
All it took was one long illuminating conversation with someone who then asked me out to jog me out of that funk (we didn't even talk about relationships). I turned her down as I was in a relationship (Looking back I should have taken her up on it as I wasn't really in a relationship at that point - it was just an empty husk), but I was flattered and once again felt I had potential value to someone.
I went home and ended things. She revealed that she had been sleeping around with randoms from match.com for the last 18 months. I breathed a sign of relief after freaking out and being tested and declared clean (even though we hadn't had sex in over a year) and she had gonorrhea and later rumors of herpes.
A friend of mine in college once told me that while she didn't have a problem sleeping with a guy on a first date, if she did there wouldn't be a second date.
For some reason that stuck with me, so when I met my now wife on our first date after connecting on match.com (yeah, I'm old) I refused to have sex with her just on the off chance she had the same rule.
We made up for it on the second date the next night. Married 12 years this Sept.
My older brother found his third (and last) wife off Match.com. He had filed for bankruptcy for a failed business. His second ex was running him through the wringer financially. He has a two B.S. from MIT, M.S. from USC and a MBA from Boston U. She was a preschool teacher with a modest home. He was living in an apartment with a 12 year old car. They are happily married.
I'm still not done with her as she fired her attorney and has hired a real MFer. Oh well.
It's funny in retrospect how much I really dislike her as a person now that I'm gone. For 20 years, I was subsciously suppressing basic urges and reactions to her BS.
What really has her tit in a ringer is that she really doesn't have me under control anymore. It infuriates her that I've moved on so quickly.
She finally got on match.com and had a date Saturday (she oh so subtlely dropped enough hints...she's sooo clever....LMFAO).
I know her so well I'm almost able to plot everything she does. And the buttons she pushed on me before no longer work -- though she keeps trying.
And although I'm not a button pusher, I do jab her occasionally for sport. (childish I know).
So here's the thing: I've been using Tinder for a while, and I'm better looking than this guy, and I have a better sense of style, and I'm white (for those who think that matters), and I've never gotten "a woman to meet up for sex." What I have done is gotten a woman to meet up for a date, and then I've had sex. Guess what? Sometimes you may have to get a woman to meet up for three dates!
The entire premise of this challenge makes me wonder if some incels' problem with Tinder is just that they're saying, "Let's fuck," and they're hearing, "Uh, no, I'm unmatching you now." That's not how it works, Amy.
Related: I hear a lot of incels complain that they swiped for weeks and only got a few matches. Guess what, #metoo, and I still get laid. What the hell are you looking for anyway, sex or validation? Wait, forget I asked that.
Also related: Why don't incels realize there are dating sites/apps other than Tinder? Tinder, Tinder, Tinder! I know it's popular! There are also other sites! Is OkCupid too sexy for you? Match.com is a thing! Fuckin' eHarmony is a thing and you'll find loads of prudes just like you! It's almost like they want to use the most appearance-centric dating app just so they'll fail!
My accountant (and one of my best friends) said a while ago that in four years she'll be in credit card debt again.
But this thing with her new attorney could be really bad.
Sadly, she'll need someone to bail her out of that. Hopefully, she can meet someone.
Funny but she created a match.com profile using the email account we share -- one neither one of us has touched much in over 6 months. Obviously, she was hoping I'd see it.
My friend really wants to be a mom and she's late 30's. She got a fertility test and says she's fertile but her doctor told her she has a timeline. She's kind of in the same phase where she keep finding people that don't want the same thing. I would suggest online dating like match.com, because my friends that do online dating said that people on there are more serious in regards to a relationship. I had two guy friends that found their wives on that site and they had their first child about a few months apart from each other (funny bc they are best friends too). Their wives had the children late 30's too. One was a widower with a son already and one was her first child.
My other friend set a timeline that she wanted kids by a certain age with or without a partner. She went to a sperm clinic and got inseminated and now has a lovely one year old daughter. If you don't mind doing it alone then you should too.
I go for walks, I read, I ride my motorcycle. I flip the script when I feel alone. Whenever I was in a relationship (or married). After a while she didn't like any of the movies or shows I liked. We stopped going to the movies. We wound up watching something stupid if she was going to watch it with me. If we were talking it was about what she wanted to do or her family (who usually didn't like me). If we went on vacation it was where she wanted to go. Most of the time I was by myself even when she was around. My mind then slowly starts to realize what a terrible investment most relationships are and how they almost always end tragically. I did everything they wanted, didn't cheat, didn't lie, thought I knew them and they still ended it. And there I was alone again. Today it is easier to be alone than get myself alone. I can get on match.com and get a date anytime I want. If I spend enough or kiss enough ass they will always stick around (or put me in their orbit). But, even if they really do like me...I know how this movie is going to end eventually. All that money and time I can't get it back. Having a woman around in my 50's with all her family and friends is just too much work. I'm happy I'm alone. I think I'm going to Holland, smoke some weed and bang out a really young hooker. You only live once. Learn to laugh at yourself.
I see a lot of folks in this thread met on okcupid. It's a curious thing because I'm still single, and have had a consistently abysmal experience with the site the past couple of years. I know some people on a few dating subs say that okc has gone down quite a bit in quality and usability in recent years. (I've since focused more on match.com and bumble)
But based on your experience and others, I imagine okc must but have been much better previously. But happy for you nonetheless!
I also have been avoiding almost everyone. My son is immune compromised and my parents are in their 80s. My son who normally lives with my ex-wife in Boston came to visit me for a few months because we thought he would be safer with me. My daughter also visited me for a couple of weeks. I have visited my parents twice since February because they were having problems. Other than that, I almost never saw or spoke in person with anyone until May this year.
Starting in May this year, I stared meeting my friends weekly at local parks to toss a frisbee around. I would use hand sanitizer before and after frisbee sessions and I would wear a mask whenever we were closer than 15 feet apart. Up until mid August, we were seeing about 30 new cases per week of covid 19 in our county of 150,000, so I thought that this type of long distance socializing was rather safe as long as I used a mask and hand sanitizer. Two weeks ago, the students returned to our local college and we are seeing around 150 new cases per week among the students, so I may have to stop meeting my friends soon.
I do still attend church virtually which is nice. At the end of the zoom service, they break us up into groups of six and we talk for 15 to 30 minutes. I am acquainted with most of the people at our church, so I really enjoy these sessions.
I have not gone out on a date since January. I have been considering joining Match.com or some other dating service. I was thinking that we could go hiking if my date agreed to wear a mask during the "hiking date" or maybe we could have a "frisbee date". Those ideas for dates seem odd to me, but maybe there are others like me who hunger for safe social contact.
Maybe others have ideas for safe in person socializing. Camping? Fishing? Tennis?
TLDR: Try safe frisbee for socializing at local parks.
I thought they were back together, he posted a pic for her birthday a couple weeks ago and had a recent IG post I think like two days about how he found his match as an ad for match.com or something. I hope they got back together, I like them as a couple. Kelsey literally cheats on everyone as soon as she can, I hated them together. #teamgbaby
>People have pointed out that the okcupid study would automatically match you with someone if rated them too high, which played a role in why some women may have rated harsher.
This trend goes far beyond OkCupid. Match.com, Tinder, Hinge... on top of numerous studies posted on PPD. 80/20 is probably a bit of an exageration, maybe closer to 75/25. But what is clear is that on looks alone, women are not interested in dating most men.
> Even if you want to ignore the dating message distribution because hur dur women don’t message, the study also showed that less attractive women were less likely to respond to message from attractive men which contradicts the hypergamy narrative that guys on here push:
It doesn't at all.
>There are a ton of options. Do you want to spend money? Or only want free? Do you want a relationship? Casual dating? Hookups? What are you looking for? Off the top of my head,
The trash one that ruined online dating?
Creepy Christian guy?
Apparently decent ish. Still based on swipes and shows matches hours away.
Tinder but even less chance you'll match
The horrible thing OKC failed to clone. Owned by match
> Facebook Dating,
Not available near you.
> Elite Singles, OurTime,
These sound like escort sites.
> Christian Mingle, JSwipe, JDate,
> Badoo, Clover, Pure, HUD, Pickable, POF, etc.
Did you actually try any of these?
>I find it funny when people complain about how bad OkCupid is. Bad results doesn't mean the app is terrible.
The app is objectively terrible.
I read somewhere that the people at Match.com etc figured out that in any heterosexual dating app, they can make the experience as bad as possible for men and get away with it.
So the truth is, there is no 'fixing' this issue. There's no financial incentive for dating apps to be made more equitable, as long as men continue to be suckers and pay for terrible experiences.
I remember reading somewhere that OKC lost thousands of subs when they went all, Tinder-like. There is really no one on there anymore. I can remember when the place was jumping with people. Now you are lucky if 5 or 10 people local to you are on at any given time. Here in Ga, prime time was between 8 pm and 11 pm most nights. At least a couple of 100 women would be on within 50 miles of me. Now, there is no prime time anymore. I'm lucky if 5 women are on within 100 miles of me. I can tell that there are a lot of dead profiles. Women that just gave up and left the site. The reason I know, I finally clicked like on 4 or 5 women that were actually too far away but had liked me anyway. I can see their profiles. They never show up as being signed in. It looks like they abandoned their profiles and just left. OKC is dead.
All that is left is POF. But, the problem with POF, there are too many people there. Many women get over 100 messages in a day. For others a week. They get so many that many men who do write, get buried. Some women delete everything and start all over again. Most women are not going to sit and look through 100 or more messages just looking for one guy to date. POF is overcrowded. When OKC bit the dust, many went from OKC to POF not knowing that the same Match.com now owns POF. Dating sites are just not worth the time anymore. Match has it all cornered. You may as well join Match and be done with it. They own it all just about. I'm surprised that they haven't bought out Eharmoney.
HTTPS is not vulnerable.
The issue is that when you type in "match.com" as the demo video did, the site is configured to redirect you to https://match.com. If an attacker can intercept that redirect (or if the site serves traffic on both HTTP and HTTPS), then you can be sending data unencrypted over HTTP.
When the demo video mentions a "properly configured website", that means setting the HSTS header (and ideally adding the domain to the preload list). That means that your browser knows to go straight to HTTPS for that domain, so no data is sent unencrypted and you start with the TLS handshake. If a site is not encrypted in such a way, you can protect yourself using something like HTTPS Everywhere or manually prefixing https:// when entering a URL.
i joined match.com after my wife died. it is by far the best service for finding a match. i went thru 10 meet ups, and then found the right one. very happy to find someone to love who loves me. you have to be willing to take a chance on pandemic protocols to date . hard to hold hands and walk from 6 feet away.
The early days of online dating were pretty great, say late 2000s, into the early 2010s. It was still work but there were other people out there doing the work too and periodically you'd find those people. Fucking Match.com ruined the whole thing. And people who don't use computers, and use their cell phones for everything, also helped to ruin it.
/u/ff42 posted the site. It's actually a service and not an individual guy/lady. So I guess it's like match.com but for mormons who are millionaires? That seems like such a niche market, but at $9k for each matchup, i guess they make a profit?
he said HE found her on fb after the gas station. tbh idk why a as station meetup is more far fetched than a dating website... You think anyone but Germy puts their ass on tinder? She didn't/wasn't desperate enough to sign up to match.com in her early twenties. come on. she pushed for Adumb for just about the entire haul to the gas station
Welcome to the wonderful world of parents that don't plan. You are smart to plan early. I think a lot of people in her situation are stubborn and won't let on that they have no idea how to manage money. My parents were the same way. Now my mom (80) doesn't have anything, but her SS which is a pittance and my siblings and I are paying the price. You need to coordinate with your sister and talk to your mom until you guys can make a plan together. Maybe go to SS website and calculate her expected SS payment and show it to her and start your work from there. You can do a budget and show her how she isn't going to make it by herself on SS alone. Chances are good she won't listen the first, second or third time. Just keep hammering the message home. She needs to live small (money wise).
Don't let shoring up your mom financially affect your life or marriage. Take care of yourself first and your mom second.
She is only 51 and that 's pretty young relationship wise. She may find her life partner yet. Maybe don't invest in an IRA for her, but buy her a gym membership and a Match.com account!
I would NOT open an IRA for her. Save for yourself in a 401k, Roth 401k, IRA, pay off your debts, put money in other investment vehicles, etc.
Was she married to your dad for 10 years or more? If so she will be entitled to some of his SS. It will not affect his payments.
I've paid for Grindr to get rid of ads. Stopped doing that. I've paid for Scruff to get better search. Helps, but still single. In the past I've paid for Match.com which is a complete and total waste with endless outdated and recycled postings. Pretty dismal out there. Just a big scam industry.
Go to whatever the Dutch match.com is and count how many girls have a a listed min height of 170cm or less compared to the ones that list 180cm and up.
Most of the time it doesn't need to be mentioned. If you are shorter than the girl you have no chance and most prefer 7-8cm height differential. Makes them feel small and girly. Course guys are the same wanting girls that make them feel big and manly...
Well, I won't ever say that what we go through compares to what the trans or gay community goes through on a daily basis, but there have been quantitative studies that have displayed an overall discrimination towards us.
On smaller scale, we don't even have a place to put our identity on major websites like match.com or eharmony really. We're viewed as less human overall, because we're not sexual like the rest. Some stories of potential dating partners trying to convert us into being sexual, as if they want to fix us as broken have been overall cited again and again. In my current state, consummation laws can be cited as a reason for divorce, which can put the asexual partner at fault for dissolution. So, there's that. There is some like that. I am not comparing in any way to what any trans person or gay person goes through. That's not me. I'm just saying what aces sometimes face.
Not me, but my mom.
Found out her partner of 5 years or so had made a dating profile while they were still together and he was living with us. On top of this, he was constantly taking advantage of her and generally being absolutely insane and abusive. Because she put hours into helping him rebuild his business asking for nothing in return, she had access to his website, his domains, etc.
She attached his dating profile to his professional business domain so when you typed it in, his match.com account would pop right up.
This is the new work environment. They have to hire women and productivity standards cannot be lowered if that company trades on the stock market. It doesn't matter what industry you are in. I work in health care and had a female colleague keep giving me her patients so she could sit around and act intelligent (like a boss). I didn't say anything, I'm not going to argue with a woman. I just started putting in over time. I'm not going to be super productive so a female can sit on her ass and maintain productivity levels! He got on me and I quit. Soon he had a department full of females on Facebook and Match.com, calling out sick instead of treating patients. He started to write them up and wouldn't ya know...the sexual harassment charges came out and he was fired. Lol. As a man in this gynocentric world you have to GYOW with employers too.
Well, the Love Story snippet we heard in the Match.com commercial sounded basically identical to the original, but some have speculated that she'll only make her most popular songs carbon copies - and the deep cuts she might change up a bit. But at the same time, I feel like if she changed them up too much, people would still seek out the originals if they miss the original vibe, and that would kinda defeat her intention of making the re-recordings a replacement for the originals.
They can be, used to work with someone who was at one time an executive at Match.com. You could sign up online and just type in your credit card to get started. But to leave, to end your relationship as a customer, you had to call.
Not only is calling into a corporation a major pain in the ass in the first place, who wants to call and say "hey, I keep dating people but it just isn't working out for me, I'm not getting laid and the girls don't want 2nd dates."
On the other hand, calling to say "I don't need it anymore I'm getting married." Either way, making customers call reduced churn in their consumer base.
Every platform is different. Anyone here ever have Sling.tv? It's a convoluted mess trying to figure out how to leave that dumpster fire, you can do it online, but they intentionally obscure where the door is to leave. I wonder why?
As a side note, apparently 40% or so of the women on Match.com say they'd never date a guy who owns a cat. So it's not simply a bias against women.
While there isn't a general bias against dog owners, there are stereotypes about and biases against women who own small dogs. Maybe everyone is just too afraid to make fun of people with large dogs. :^)
I agree that someone who fosters a large number of stray or abandoned animals should be held in esteem rather than ridiculed.
I found my wife on match.com after i prayed for her. She hit every detail i asked God for even the ones I was joking to him about but not really. He knew my heart and gave me everything. She even went to the church i was planning on going. Church isn't the only place you'll find your soul mate. God isn't that limited you know. Talk to people. Your wife or husband starts as a friend first.
Since it's her in the pic, I can say... I was matched with Brett on match.com a couple of years ago.
For some reason she had the worst picture possible in her profile. And no, I didnt reach out to her.
The real question is: When will "Seeking" reach the breaking point where no real SD forks out money to see profiles of women seeking love outside their league.
They choose to compete with match.com and similar sites. They are losing their USP.
I hope they have done their homework and will be able to attract enough paying millionaires looking for real love and significant others on "Seeking". Good luck.
The site to match like minded people looking for an arrangement is no more.
Edit: Changed "SA" to "Seeking".
Match.com over all others (POF is just nasty). Met soooo many women on Match. I've gotten two hookups from Tinder and dozens from Match. Just remember that when they say "I'm not here for sex" they usually mean "I'm not here for sex unless it is with the right guy, which may be you today but not tomorrow". I once was on the way to a restaurant, while on travel, by myself, got an interest notification from Match, messaged her where I was going for dinner, invited her, she met me there, banged within three hours. I freaking love match.
wanna laugh even more check her fat ass back in 3y and see how her profile will have change to frustration cause she will never get that and over estimating her market value which is close to ZEROWWWWW
also she looks like a tranny. Now you know why i created an account on match.com to read stuff like this and laugh it out loud.
I've been around the block a few times and I hear the stories from people around me and these hit and run relationships are ruining it for a lot of people.
I can't even look at match.com because all my matches looks like liars, fakers, and I'm going to leave you laterers.
And to be honest with you, I'm not even a bad guy. Maybe I should go out do drugs, or drink at the bar and then maybe I might find someone that wont leave me.
I used Okcupid and Match.com for about ten years. The only "success" was one guy who love-bombed me for six weeks and then abruptly got sucked into the alt-right and got emotionally abusive. Okcupid seems to work better for polyamorous people. I used hinge for a year, dated one nice guy for a month who wasn't for me since I can't have kids and Hinge seems to be more like eHarmony, a lot of religious people who want kids. I used Bumble and Tinder for several years, no luck. Met several men on Bumble who were leading complete double lives. One guy faked a whole persona about being a old-rich Westlake kid who needed me to fit into high society and demanded I buy a nicer condo/car/wear expensive outfits and eventually dumped me for using public transportation once in Chicago because that was for "poor people", but in reality was actually himself lower middle class with lower middle class parents who had mostly worked stocking shelves at food co-ops. Met at least couple of men lying about having live in girlfriends on Bumble and Tinder. One guy who was a successful "executive" but his company was actually a shell company involved in a healthcare government embezzling scheme that was about to go to jail for five years and who had just had a boat, car and house repossessed for fraud. Anyway, 9.5 years into being single in Austin, I made an account on Facebook dating and the first hit was my wonderful now-boyfriend. We just moved into a huge house together in South Austin and are approaching our one year anniversary.
Yeah I doubt the homeless are using match.com or other paid services due to lack of funds. Then again who knows if the barrier of entry isn't low enough for them. Probably an unpopular opinion but if you can't afford to live on your own you shouldn't be dating.
I hate to play devil's advocate here, but clearly you are looking in the wrong place. I would go for match.com. What were you hoping to get with a site like that? You will only get the bottom of the barrel.
As a black man constantly seeing: "No blacks", "Only into white guys", and if race is category in their preferences it would be just white or everything but black.
In my college years around 2009, my friend had a match.com account, and when we were hungover in the morning we would play a game of which women would include black men in their preferences. The % was very low.....
"She constantly ranted on about how she hates all men and how she likes to use men. Her goal in life was to find a rich guy who she can live off of. She seemed really unstable and honestly seemed somewhat psychotic."
The perfect profile for Match.com. Going once; going twice; sold to the sucker in a seersucker suit!
I haven't had feelings for a woman in almost 8 years. I haven't had sex in about 5. Today women are a vague thought in the back of my mind. I'm to busy concentrating on my own survival. If I had a woman I would have to worry about hers too or lose her to the competition (someone who wants to pay for her). Not having a woman is a hell of a lot easier than having one. I'm easy to take care of and satisfy. A woman is not. It sounds to me like you really want the love of a woman (which doesn't exist). To that extent your thinking of checking out. Seek help for this issue first. While your getting help go on match.com and get a girlfriend. Take her out to dinners and on vacations, buy her and her family gifts. Then notice how she spends nickels on your dollar to finance the relationship. You mention this to her and she's back on match fucking somebody else. You do this enough times and you will come running back to MGTOW. Because you will have what alcoholics like to call...a moment of clarity...circa Samuel Jackson in Pulp Fiction.
It's been covered repeatedly on PPD. OkCupid data, Tinder data, Match.com data, speed dating studies, attractiveness studies, anecdotal stories (just off the top of my head).
Sorry but I don't want to sum up 12 months of PPD arguments in a single response.
I use Match.com because it requires close to zero effort on my end. Only go in to see who messaged me. No time spent on swiping.
I've used the free apps in the past. My take is that the paid apps give you the worst of the worst and the best the best. Worst: they get no matches on the free apps and think paying for it will do the trick. Best: they're new to online dating and just stumbled in.
A quote that helps me move along "depression is living in the past, anxiety is living in the future and peace is being in the present." What worries you so much? that you'll be forever alone? I don't think that's realistic unless you choose for it to be that way. If you'd like to settle down with someone, have you considered more serious dating sites such as match?
Depends on where you live and how good at dating you are in real life. If you aren't good at dating in real life then you will be wasting your money.
I spent $30 or maybe it was $50 on a match.com account and messaged literally thousands of girls within 5-2000 miles away. Never once got a response in 1 1/2 years. Plenty of accounts were either fake or old accounts that don't get deactivated.
I tried POF for free and very very rarely get a response. And there's only about 2 dozen girls within 50 miles of where I live. POF also made me extremely depressed.
Did some DD on Match.com's in-app revenue over the last few quarters using Sensor Tower mobile analytics. Remember MTCH shot up 14% after their Q2 ER after earnings came in at 45 cents per share, topping the 32 cents expectation. Match Group’s revenue for its second quarter came in at $421.2 million, a 36% boost compared to the year-ago quarter.
Sensor Tower Data:
$149mm Rev and 21.4m downloads
2018 Q1 ER: $407.5m rev (36% increase YoY)
2017 Q1 ER: $298.5m rev
$167.5mm Rev (13% increase QoQ) and 22.4m downloads
2018 Q2 ER : $422m Rev (36% increase YoY and 3.5% increase QoQ)
2017 Q2 ER : $309.5m Rev
Sensor Tower Data:
$171.4m (2% increase QoQ) and 22.8m downloads
2018 Q3 ER: ???
2017 Q3 ER: $343m Rev
tldr: I don't expect Match to meet or exceed the consensus revenue target of $438.3mm for q3.
Urg! Thank you for posting this! It is very important to bring forth the efforts being made. I personally have been very lucky in gaming and have always had friends (male or female) that just appreciate my love for gaming. However, I feel like now that I am 32 girl gaming is a way bigger market, there is more acceptance, girl characters that are not just something to look at and competitions/magazines/gaming shows now include girls. It makes me really happy. There is even a damn "Match.com" commercial where the guy goes "she turned me into a video gamer!" <3
Looking back on my IT career (almost 20 years now), I'd have to say working for a company out of NY that did some lead gen. Worked long hours, but man, what a ride... I remember the day my boss at the time came to see me, gave me a company credit card and was like: "We're building a dating site!" ... I want you to join Lavalife, Match.com, and few others that were pretty big at the time and all subscription based services. He told me to take notes of what they were doing well and we'd do better.... A few months later with a team of 3 devs, we launched Imatchup.com, which at one point was generating about $600K / month... He had me going to bars to recruit "web cam girls" to join the company and lure some men onto our site as paying members... I was younger and just starting out so morals wasn't really a concern then, and seeing this type of money flying around was like being in lala land! Pretty soon we had CS staff and people dedicated to approve photos, which a lot of them were nudes, and then Hotmatchup was born... full on replica site with the exact same codebase for the lust crowd! We went on to build these types of sites for almost 8 years until 2008 when everything just kind of came crashing down... I jumped ship soon after for something more stable, but I'll never forget it!
Trust me on this. Let me tell you a short story. There was a girl that I met when I was 25. We hit it off immediately. Great time together. We didn't sleep together the first night, but I liked her. She said she wanted to take it slow. I respected that, that is who she is. We probably hung out 1 or 2 times a week and finally slept together after a couple months. She was very into me. After 4 months or so, she was wanting to marry me without me even asking her to marry me or anything.
We got to talking as couples do. I basically found out that she was not that kind of girl. She simply made me wait. Most of the guys she has been with are hookups.
I broke up with her basically right then and don't regret it one bit.
My advice is go on match.com or something non tinder-ish and meet guys. If you don't really like them and don't see them being serious relationship material then don't see them again and don't even kiss them. If you hit it off with a guy, don't make him wait past the second date, rock his world and he will appreciate it and feel like a king and want you to be in his life
JP keeps saying there's going to be a "couples" version of the Understandmyself personality test. That's cool and all but I'm wondering if he's thought about partnering with OKCupid or Match.com to see about incorporating that extra level of compatibility for those of us who are still searching? Things that make you go hmm.
That you're immature? There's nothing wrong with that. People have various ideas on how an adult should personify themselves. I'm extremely immature and a relatively happy person.
What gets my goat is when people are unhappy and want you to be unhappy. I want to go adventuring on occasion but am usually content playing video games on my computer, perusing match.com, and all.
Some adults are so broken inside. I'm aging well aesthetically, don't take my blessings for granted. I smoked and drank and partied hard for the last decade. I would never imagine such a thing as smoking, yet I do when I bust the seal on the Smirnoff. Yuck.. smoke with toxic chemicals in the lungs, how unimaginable.
I don't think it's a psychiatric disorder, being immature.
If you're happy, be happy, be immature, you be you, you know. Miserable people want you to be miserable, just can't handle this world. I'll take it tooth and nail.
Oh and one more I have to share - I met a guy on match.com right before I met my husband and when we were making plans to meet he shared that he was into vore. I had no idea what it was, ended up looking it up and blocking him.
Match.com helped me find my now wife. Like Salsa said, I told her about my deafness and that I have a CI couple days before date 1 and it worked out obviously. Couple girls before her, not so much, but it's hit or miss.
Does Match.com account for selectivity in its surveys? That is to say, we can say that these results are representative of <em>Match.com</em> users; do they have any statistics regarding whether or not specific demographics -- upper-middle class, college educated, white, etc. -- are overrepresented in their sampling?
I have a friend who's wife passed away when he was 70. At 72, he went on match.com and met someone halfway across the country away. She ended up moving in with him on the East coast. Now, at 75, he's happily married once again. So, no. It's never too late.
I always think of Laura Linney on Frasier who jut ripped people off for a ridiculous fee and matched them with other random clients. I think you can do better than Grindr. I mean if you're looking for a compatible partner, try OK Cupid or Match.com. Using hookup apps are mercenary.
Thank you very much for your comment! Bumble and match.com. I hate Tinder because it's mostly about ONS and hook ups. I've got a good profile, with real pics and some info. I have quite a lot of interest from guys on these apps but I don't really find them interesting or attractive for me, personally
It really depends on how you approach dating app. If it's something about your bio or pictures or how you message people then paying for a subscription or extra features won't help. Try looking at the dating pool in your area and based on your interest on match.com to see if that one might be for you.
Are you talking about Match.com or something like OKCupid or POF to see "Likes"? Usually thats how they get you to subscribe or pay so you're able to see it but what you should know is that most of the time it's fake so you pay to see who like you. The moment you pay, you'll realize that the likes stopped or that its from fake account.
I understand completely how you feel. I left my therapist 6 months ago because I fell stone cold in love with her. First time I saw her I almost said, I'm gonna get my shit together and call you in six months. But I had such a connection. She changed my life. I have never felt anyone's presence so strongly in their absence. But they live on a different plane and it's really tricky because a therapist is not nor should not be at a complete interpersonal remove.
I confessed and it was the most intimate moment I've ever had with another human being. The only thing I didn't tell her was that Match.com kept trying to put us together and our social circles overlapped just enough to drive me insane. But you should tell your therapist because that openness in itself is enormously healing.
So I have two choices: I can stalk her, or I can align myself so someone with her qualities manifests. I'm thinking the latter might be the better choice.
Jag är ett kort hulkande monster med 30kg övervikt, talfel, låg inkomst, hyresrätt, dålig bil och massa andra fel. De enda positiva egenskaper jag kan befatta mig med är att jag är någorlunda rolig, trevlig och snäll.
Tog mig 2 dagar på match.com att få en matchning. Efter en bilfärd på 2h så fick jag middag och sex med en helt normal kvinna i min ålder.
Någon vecka senare upprepades proceduren med en annan matchning, hon blev min flickvän i 1 år.
Gör ett försök med nätdejtning. Underskatta inte hur desperata vissa kvinnor är.
This is a typical cheating wife situation. You are married and your wife is cheating or attempting to cheat. It happens in about half of the families or close to.
The easiest response to your situation is "leave her", but a wise man should at least try to understand "why" she is doing it before pulling the plug on your long term marriage. Perhaps you can do a little thinking and let us know. Is that just who she is, is she frustrated in her marriage, were there any signs etc.
The easiest and most legal way to spy on your wife is record her car mileage every day and find out if she takes unexpected trips.
You can also contact her on match.com from a fake profile. See what she is up to. Pick a profile picture that cannot be reverse found on google image search.
Match.com in the late 90's...
Cute gal and we were hitting it off on the phone...
For our first date, the woman chose a chain -- not a TGIFriday's but something likely a rung below that (I forget which one). Okay, I'm paying, so that beats somewhere upscale.
Well, when she shows up, I can't believe my eyes. She's 40 pounds heavier (she's heavy) and 10 years older (she's a lot older) than her pics. Part of me said -- this is a form of lie and you should call her out on it -- but the gentleman took over. We'll eat. It'll be done with. Be polite.
Now? She asks the hostess "can we be seated near a TV...and can you turn it to my channel? Dawson's Creek is coming on."
I can't believe what I'm seeing and hearing. We're seated... And my date is coaching a server on finding Dawson's Creek and getting the sound right...
So I wait until she's all set... I ask her, "are you all set?" She says she's fine.
I say, "okay, here's $20, enjoy your meal and your TV show," and got up and left.
I had an Ex who was addicted to social media. She claimed she just loved the attention she got and wasn't going to do anything. One day though I got suspicious, can't even explain it, just got a feeling she wasn't being honest with me and went through her shit. Discovered like 15 dudes she had been talking sexually to, with them exchanging pics and her commenting on how much she wanted them and setting up dates to meet.
This was just on match.com and facebook, I never saw her tinder stuff or private messages/pics on her cellphone.
She had a complete breakdown when she came home from work and I showed her everything I found. Like crying and screaming for me not to leave her, saying she'd do literally anything to fix it. I told her I wanted to see everything (her cellphone) and she refused, so I left. She blew up my phone and every other way she could contact me for a few days, although she eventually stopped after I never responded to anything.
I do a better job at respecting my SO's privacy now, but I set boundaries also. That includes no tinder or dating sites/apps while we are serious. I've had some girls ghost me because of that, but I really don't care, I consider them bullets dodged.
Tinder in my area is full of fake or what I'm guessing are expired profiles. I had the same experience on Match.com previously.
People delete the app and assume it deletes their profile is what I'm guessing.
I don't know if you can keep up your end of the bargain on this. A woman with traditional views on relationships will expect you to provide for her, and if you put finding a relationship before building your career right now, I'm afraid you're not going to find the woman you really want because you won't be in a state to attract her.
You can also try Match.com or Christian Mingle.
I have a Laotian friend who came to the states at 10, with her family with only the clothes on their backs,. She was the middle child. Her older sibling went through an arranged marriage (still married. Her parents arranged a marriage for her at 16. She decided to run away with her love, not marry the guy her parents wanted her to. She eloped with the guy she thought was right for her, had a child, put herself through college, started a career. For a long timer her family wouldn't speak to her. Eventually she divorced (young) the eloped marriage, took her son and started over. While she was building a business she started dating a few guys through Match.com eventually met the one she felt was right for her (Caucasian this time), they married, built an empire (they were offered 60 mil for their business in 2008). Her entire family works for her business. She's raised 2 more kids with the 2nd husband, they've been together for nearly 20 years. I share this story only as an example. You never know what can and will happen in life. I think the answer is within you. Good luck on your journey.
I'm assuming it's comments people have said to her or thoughts that have crossed her mind. "You're not matching" is probably talking about Tinder or Match.com or something to that affect.
I kinda get what she's doing here. Give her a professional photographer to help the quality and lighting and an artist to "jazz" up the signs behind her and it could be a hit.
From a single dad perspective. It took me a LONG time to find the one that I want to spend the rest of my life with. But, my "criteria" were that they had to have been married before and they had to have kids.
Those two aspects of anyone's life are so important and if you are involved with someone who has no experience with either it will not work.
My GF knows that she is #4 behind my 3 kids. Obviously she is critical to my life, but if a kid breaks a leg...our date night is no longer a priority. And I understand that I am #2 behind her 2 kids.
Assuming you were married, a single person will not understand the intricasies of having been married . Dealing with ex's and baby daddies or mommies will be a common experience for you in a new relationship. No that it shoudl be THE common experience, but having been through it you can be supportive of one another.
Stop being so focused on finding the right one. It will happen. If you are using Match.com or another dating app, play the numbers. Take as many dates as your wallet and schedule will allow. Worst case he is a bore and you wasted 30 minutes in a coffee shop. Middle choice he is a good guy, but not for you and you have now gained a new freind that woudl be fun to play trivia with. Best case, it is THE one. But experience it all.
And a first date tip. ALWAYS offer to pay your share. ALWAYS expect to pay your share. I woudl always insist on paying for the dates when I was dating, but if she did not reach for the wallet and make an attempt...there would be no second one!
Not sure if this is what you were looking for or even helpful...but my two cents!
I had a FWB I met through Match.com, but i wanted something more long-lasting and meaningful. But after lots of talk she just came out and said, "Look, if you want something physical I can deal with that." Maybe she was just as frustrated as I was. Hell, she even lent me her car to get to work and we hadn't even met in person until that time. So while we fooled around, things were not always like that. Sometimes we would just hang out. I remember going over to her parents (she still lived with them) and the two of us making dinner, watching a movie together, etc. I also remember both of us grooving and singing out loudly to Korn's cover of Word Up on the way back to my place (one of my favorite memories. After about 4 months we just drifted a part a bit, then started talking more when FB came out. We both got married to different people, and stayed in touch, but she passed away about 4 years ago suddenly.
I'm sick of this rollercoaster shit. I went out solo on Saturday, sat myself down at a table of three ringless women and talked my way into their cards against humanity group for about two hours. At the end of the night, I asked the cutest one out and got told she had a boyfriend, but I was still on top of the world; I'd gone out, found unmarried women in my age range, cold approached and inserted myself into their group, and asked one out with confidence.
The next day, had a coffee date from a girl from Match. It went OK, but when I texted her later, she gave me the brush off. She wasn't cruel, but it just seems like the same goddamn motherfucking shit my ex-wife said, 'you're great, smart, funny, but. . . ' It also happened a few weeks ago with a cute lawyer in exactly the same way.
Then I ran into my ex-wife today and she looks fantastic and I'm 110% sure she has 3929392 people chasing her online and in real life and I just don't think I'm ever going to find someone.
Match.com says I've sent 250 messages to women in my area; I've gotten one semi-FWB, one girl who ghosted me after 3 dates, three girls who showed up on the first date *significantly* heavier than photos suggest, one date with a girl who was just too angry and weird, one girl who looked like she'd been run over by a meth-lab after her photos were taken, and the girl who met-then-passed-on me yesterday. Not one of the women I've gone out with held a candle to my ex-wife physically, or cognitively and I'm really starting to be fearful of a lonely future, or one where I significantly settle, which I'm not sure is the foundation of a healthy relationship.
Match.com still works for me too. You may have some malware or thinly-disguised malware on your computer. Check your browser plugins for anything that might edit webpage content.
Just think, in the time it took you to write all that drivel you could have put an ad on Match.com, you spend all your time trying to recreate a better world inside your head than outside it
Haha, can you imagine? Whenever I see ads for Match.com or eHarmony promoting using video chat to get to know someone on virtual dates, I simply cannot. I'm awkward enough in person, trying to explain to someone over video chat about my weird-ass home decor would be a nightmare.
I'll give you my hot take on this. I don't think being transgender is more valid than being transracial. I also don't believe either one of them makes you something other than what you are - a biological conclusion.
But hey, live your life as you see fit. Just don't lie about it. Don't go telling the NAACP that you were born African American. Don't go telling match.com that you're a woman. Tell those organizations your truth and let them respond.
Here's the unhappy reality. All of us were born with something that our minds perceive that our bodies do not or that the world will not accept. Learning to live with those things is a PERSONAL challenge. Including the reality that others may not accept your "truth". Does that give people the right to discriminate? Not on any public grounds. Privately you need to accept it. Can they stop you from renting a room or getting gas? No. But you can't expect them to like you, to use your pronouns, or do anything more than their legal obligation.
Rachel Dolezal's mistake? Lying about the truth. Coincidentally that was Elizabeth Warren's mistake too. Not that she claimed to have a Native American ancestor - she clearly does - but that she claimed to BE Native American, which she is not.
Well... as far as part of a tribe. She is actually a native American much like every other f'ing person born in the US.
I don't disagree with the conclusion, but wanted to point out two gaps here.
For one the actual product, I think you're not considering the way Bumble does differ from the others in that its the female-initiated app.
2 people match, the woman must initiate the conversation. A lot of women like that, a lot of men who are tired of sending 200 messages with no answer like that too. It reduces completely false leads for both sides and reduces a negative experience for women too.
But the 2nd, more important thing....there's no numbers in this. There's no such thing as a 'A $20 stock' out of context. It's more about if it's an $8 billion company or a $2 billion company.
What's the revenue now? What's the growth? Profit? new client acquisition? What percentage of users convert to paid users? compared to Tinder, Match.com? Pof?
I think people have to see the difference between 'The company will be successful' or 'The company won't be successful' and the idea of it being 'overvalued' or 'undervalued' because those aren't the same thing.
If you're saying its overvalued you can't just say why it won't do well, you have to show why it'll do worse than its current price indicates it is expected to do.
Okay, so you're on match.com and the guy's profile reads: "my favorite things to do are playing video games, watching tv and ordering takeout," would you wink?
...you know the answer.
It's okay...I'm actually using match.com. My therapist told me to avoid Tinder (aka hook up apps)
She's very honest with me, she has told me stuff I didn't like to hear so I can't agree with other comments saying she's just telling me what I want to hear.